Win XP RC1 doesn't support Glide anymore :-(

Bad news for all 3dfx graphic card ( or just Voodoo3? ) owners! I just tried to run GPL in Glide and Win XP RC1 just crashed. Voodoo3 1.04 drivers for Win2000 and George Smiley's Glide Wrapper installed. This thing worked even in the latest Win XP beta ( Beta2 ) but not anymore! And it's not just GPL, other 3dfx gc owners are complaining about not being able to use Glide in any game. Sad! I know there is a D3D rasterizer for GPL but image quality in Glide is far superior. Hope somebody finds a fix soon! borut

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 10:00:00 +0200, "Borut Srebotnik" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I know there is a D3D rasterizer for GPL but image quality in >Glide is far superior. No it's not. In fact the D3D rasterizer has higher res mirrors. The D3D version looks just as good (or better) as the glide version.

> No it's not. In fact the D3D rasterizer has higher res mirrors. The > D3D version looks just as good (or better) as the glide version. then i must be missing something. washed out colours and other stuff that i can't point my finger at or have to limited a knowledge of technical stuff to argument my observation. and i don't care for mirrors anyway. too much stuff going on in front and not many drivers that would go slower than me :-) although i used to do the lap at the Ring in 8:17.xxx in Cooper. but haven't played GPL for the past 9 months and now im trying to tame the BRM with default setup at the Ring, arghh... BTW, are you using voodoo3? what settings in core.ini and what settings in registry for D3D for voodoo3? you know you can't adjust settings via 3dfx tools (installation gives error) anymore in Win XP? thanks, Borut.

Well Dammit Guyz, is it or isnt it? :) "Borut Srebotnik" wrote: | > I know there is a D3D rasterizer for GPL but image quality in | >Glide is far superior. "Bill and Ben, the flower pot men." wrote: | No it's not. In fact the D3D rasterizer has higher res mirrors. The | D3D version looks just as good (or better) as the glide version. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

It is, with the latest beta... http://www.simracingmag.com/gpl/articles/01q2/gpl_d3d.shtml Eric � "Thom j." wrote:

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> Well Dammit Guyz, is it or isnt it? :) > > "Borut Srebotnik" wrote: > | > I know there is a D3D rasterizer for GPL but image quality in > | >Glide is far superior. > > "Bill and Ben, the flower pot men." wrote: > | No it's not. In fact the D3D rasterizer has higher res mirrors. The > | D3D version looks just as good (or better) as the glide version. > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

See that, My man Eric always comes thru!! WD Eric!! "Eric Cote" wrote:

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| It is, with the latest beta... | | http://www.simracingmag.com/gpl/articles/01q2/gpl_d3d.shtml | | Eric | | | "Thom j." wrote: | | > Well Dammit Guyz, is it or isnt it? :) | > | > "Borut Srebotnik" wrote: | > | > I know there is a D3D rasterizer for GPL but image quality in | > | >Glide is far superior. | > | > "Bill and Ben, the flower pot men." wrote: | > | No it's not. In fact the D3D rasterizer has higher res mirrors. The | > | D3D version looks just as good (or better) as the glide version.

--- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

See that, My man Eric always comes thru!! WD Eric!!

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| It is, with the latest beta... | | http://www.simracingmag.com/gpl/articles/01q2/gpl_d3d.shtml | | Eric | | | | > Well Dammit Guyz, is it or isnt it? :) | > | > | > I know there is a D3D rasterizer for GPL but image quality in | > | >Glide is far superior. | > | > | No it's not. In fact the D3D rasterizer has higher res mirrors. The | > | D3D version looks just as good (or better) as the glide version.

--- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

That's just the V3 D3D drivers, the colour quality I get in D3D with a GF2 is the same as a V3 with glide. Something I can check because I have two PCs, and the slower one has a V3. "Borut Srebotnik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > then i must be missing something. washed out colours and other stuff thati

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> can't point my finger at or have to limited a knowledge of technical stuff > to argument my observation. and i don't care for mirrors anyway. too much > stuff going on in front and not many drivers that would go slower than me > :-) although i used to do the lap at the Ring in 8:17.xxx in Cooper. but > haven't played GPL for the past 9 months and now im trying to tame the BRM > with default setup at the Ring, arghh... > > BTW, are you using voodoo3? what settings in core.ini and what settings in > registry for D3D for voodoo3? you know you can't adjust settings via 3dfx > tools (installation gives error) anymore in Win XP? > > thanks, > > Borut. > >

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:57:29 +0200, "Borut Srebotnik" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>then i must be missing something. washed out colours and other stuff that i >can't point my finger at or have to limited a knowledge of technical stuff >to argument my observation. and i don't care for mirrors anyway. too much >stuff going on in front and not many drivers that would go slower than me >:-) although i used to do the lap at the Ring in 8:17.xxx in Cooper. but >haven't played GPL for the past 9 months and now im trying to tame the BRM >with default setup at the Ring, arghh... > >BTW, are you using voodoo3? what settings in core.ini and what settings in >registry for D3D for voodoo3? you know you can't adjust settings via 3dfx >tools (installation gives error) anymore in Win XP? > >thanks, > >Borut. >

No, I use a Geforce2 now. Maybe that's why D3D looks good for me. If any API looked washed out it was glide, but that was due to the fact that 3DFX always set the default gamma too high.

"Eric Cote" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > It is, with the latest beta... > > http://www.simracingmag.com/gpl/articles/01q2/gpl_d3d.shtml > > Eric > Wow... that explained it! I had posted in a thread earlier this week that Glide looked much richer than D3D in GPL while D3D in N4 looked okay to my eye but with N4 not having Glide to compare to I wasn't sure if it was just me or not. Well, turns out that I haven't been paying much attention to any references to D3D patches for GPL 'cause I was quite happy with Glide. Once I installed the latest D3D rasterizer I notice a much better look to D3D... almost identical to Glide but still slightly washed out. I was wondering if anyone knows of tweaks to the core.ini file specifically for V5 cards that will make D3D look just as good as Glide? I had taken Dave H's advice about playing with the D3D settings in 3dfx Tools but I was hoping for something specific to GPL as I am now sure that N4 looks as it should and GPL's settings just need a little nudge in the right direction looks wise. TIA, Robin