Gran Turismo 3 - a couple of questions

I am a Gran Turismo addict. Gran Turismo is not a simulation in the way GPL is, but the games have provided hours of fun with no headaches. Consider that I spent $360 for the PSX2/GT3 bundle with a memory card, which is about what it would cost me to upgrade my aging overclocked Celeron 850/Voodoo3 PC to a 1Ghz P3 and some flavor of GeForce - which is the max the mainboard will take and is already out of date. On to my questions: How does the Logitech wheel for the PSX2 compare to the original LWFF for the PC, and does it improve your lap times - or slow you down? What other games - racing or otherwise - would you recommend for the PSX2, and why? Thanks in advance, Whodaguy

Well "Whodaguy" now that you are out of denial ur next step is going to the meetings! :) "Whodaguy" wrote: | I am a Gran Turismo addict. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

quality games are: CART Fury Crazy Taxi F1 2001 ISS 2000 Madden NFL 2001 Max Payne Metal Gear Solid 2 NASCAR 2001 NBA Live 2001 NHL 2001 Quake 3 Revolution Ridge Racer 5 Silent Scope Unreal Tournament Wipeout Fusion check out the PS2 mags in newsagents for demos, reviews, screenshots etc, or check the internet. Nick.

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> I am a Gran Turismo addict. > > Gran Turismo is not a simulation in the way GPL is, but the games have > provided hours of fun with no headaches. Consider that I spent $360 > for the > PSX2/GT3 bundle with a memory card, which is about what it would cost > me to > upgrade my aging overclocked Celeron 850/Voodoo3 PC

An 850? You poor thing! I've been using a K6-III 400 for 2.5 years, but will get a 1.4GHz Athlon in a few weeks. But since I use BeOS, everything happens instantly anyway! :-) > On to my questions: > > How does the Logitech wheel for the PSX2 compare to the original LWFF > for > the PC, and does it improve your lap times - or slow you down? The LWFF was cable-driven, the newer Force GP is gear-driven. (That's why the old one won't work with the current drivers) The Force GT for the PS2 is identical, so you can use it on the PC with drivers you must download from http://www.wingmanteam.com/ If you would like to see wht people think of the wheel, visit the GT3 forum at http://forum.granturismo.com/ The FF effects are supposed to be pretty good. The wheel is currently supported by HASCAR Heat 2002, Tokyo Xtreme Racer Zero, and Twisted Metal: Black. Since it is the new standard wheel, most, if not all, future driving games should support it. > > What other games - racing or otherwise - would you recommend for the > PSX2, > and why? F1 Championship Season 2000 - unifinished port of the PSone version. The 2001 vesion comes out in Oct. Sony's highly acclaimed Formula One 2001 comes out in Sept. Tokyo Xtreme Racer Zero - I played the DC version of TXR and loved it. Ridge Racer V - utter crap as all of the RR series is. NASCAR Heat 2002 - I hate NASCAR, but I must admit I liked this one when I rented it. It was developed by MGI, who did Viper Racing. EA's NASCAR 2002 comes out this fall. 4x4 Evolution - a pretty good truck game. Metropolitan Street Racer (or something like that) may be worth checnihg out. CART Fury - bigger arcade crap than RRV. Driving Emotion Type S - stay away, far away! Also, LeMans 24 Hours comes out on Aug. 21st and should be considered a "must-have"! It is a port of the Dreamcast version, not the crappy PC one. It was developed by a different team. Lotus Challenge looks to be a vey good game. An excellent PSone game is Jarret & Labonte Stock Car Racing a/k/a Toca: World Touring Cars. Get reviews and previews at http://ps2.ign.com/ or http://www.gamerankings.com/ BTW, the correct terminology is PS2, not PSX2. You might get flamed in the news:alt.games.sony-playstation2 group if you call it that! ;-) That's pretty much a GT3 group, for now. -- Stuff You Gotta Have software for BeOS and PalmOS http://www.stuffyougottahave.com/

I have not used the wheel. There are a couple of good racing "games" for the PS2, My favorite is F1 2001 CS (by EA). It's a very fun F1 game (GPL'ers need not bother with it though). MotoGP is a cool motorcycle game also. It's got nice graphics and probably the most realistic physics I've seen in a PS2 game. I would not bother with Ridge racer 5, unless you really like sliding around every corner.

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> How does the Logitech wheel for the PSX2 compare to the original LWFF for > the PC, and does it improve your lap times - or slow you down? > > What other games - racing or otherwise - would you recommend for the PSX2, > and why? > > Thanks in advance, > Whodaguy > >

On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 21:45:27 GMT, Galley_SimRacer <[email hidden]> wrote: >An 850? You poor thing! I've been using a K6-III 400 for 2.5 years, >but will get a 1.4GHz Athlon in a few weeks. But since I use BeOS, >everything happens instantly anyway! :-) What games can you run on BeOS?

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> On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 21:45:27 GMT, Galley_SimRacer > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>An 850? You poor thing! I've been using a K6-III 400 for 2.5 years, >>but will get a 1.4GHz Athlon in a few weeks. But since I use BeOS, >>everything happens instantly anyway! :-) > > What games can you run on BeOS? > >

Mostly 2D type of stuff, but I think there is Quake II or some stuff like that. I am currently developing a backgammon-like game called Vortex. Be Inc. is working on OpenGL, and the frame rates are 20% higher than Windoze. Here's a list. http://www.bebits.com/browse/2 -- Stuff You Gotta Have software for BeOS and PalmOS http://www.stuffyougottahave.com/

> What other games - racing or otherwise - would you recommend for the > PSX2, > and why? Madden 2001/2002 , it is the finest NFL game I have ever played, Graphics and animation are state of the art ( far better than the PC version even), players atributes are fully modifiable, outstanding game. NBA Street , lotsa fun , extreme over the top style of basketball 3 on 3, definitely fun ATV off road Fury , very good blend of arcade with a major amount of sim physics added, made by makers of Motocross Madness ( also a great PC game ) Twisted Metal Black , pure arcade driving shooter, excellent visuals, loads of fun "Whodaguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JTX77.1852$[email hidden]... > I am a Gran Turismo addict. > > Gran Turismo is not a simulation in the way GPL is, but the games have > provided hours of fun with no headaches. Consider that I spent $360 forthe > PSX2/GT3 bundle with a memory card, which is about what it would cost meto > upgrade my aging overclocked Celeron 850/Voodoo3 PC to a 1Ghz P3 and some > flavor of GeForce - which is the max the mainboard will take and isalready

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> out of date. > > On to my questions: > > How does the Logitech wheel for the PSX2 compare to the original LWFF for > the PC, and does it improve your lap times - or slow you down? > > What other games - racing or otherwise - would you recommend for the PSX2, > and why? > > Thanks in advance, > Whodaguy > > >

In article <1l387.17357$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > I have not used the wheel. There are a couple of good racing "games" for the > PS2, My favorite is F1 2001 CS (by EA). It's a very fun F1 game (GPL'ers > need not bother with it though). MotoGP is a cool motorcycle game also. It's > got nice graphics and probably the most realistic physics I've seen in a PS2 > game. Up until you add in the AI which is very shoddy. When out braking someone into a corner I don't want to be bounced off the track and given a 10 second penalty by the AI rider who refuses to budge off the preset racing line. The other thing is that it only has 5 tracks. Other than that it is a good game. -- Remove your socks to reply. Matt.

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>In article <1l387.17357$[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] says... >> I have not used the wheel. There are a couple of good racing "games" for the >> PS2, My favorite is F1 2001 CS (by EA). It's a very fun F1 game (GPL'ers >> need not bother with it though). MotoGP is a cool motorcycle game also. It's >> got nice graphics and probably the most realistic physics I've seen in a PS2 >> game. > >Up until you add in the AI which is very shoddy. When out braking >someone into a corner I don't want to be bounced off the track and >given a 10 second penalty by the AI rider who refuses to budge off >the preset racing line. The other thing is that it only has 5 >tracks. Other than that it is a good game.

There are a LOT more than 5 tracks and I'm not counting REVERSE runs either. Some of the series races have 7 tracks in and of themselves. You access new tracks the deeper you get into the game. -------------------- Sinjin www.SinjinSolves.com Your Guide to Success

MW <[email hidden]> writes:

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> In article <1l387.17357$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > I have not used the wheel. There are a couple of good racing "games" for the > > PS2, My favorite is F1 2001 CS (by EA). It's a very fun F1 game (GPL'ers > > need not bother with it though). MotoGP is a cool motorcycle game also. It's > > got nice graphics and probably the most realistic physics I've seen in a PS2 > > game. > > Up until you add in the AI which is very shoddy.

I have a couple more things: 1) the bikes, aside from the paint jobs, don't even remotely resemble 500 GP bikes. 2) the physics really are a load of shite. or maybe the bikes just have way too much grip. that may be it. hard to tell. great fun, though. -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 "a poster is a human being or the software equivalent"

Gunnar Horrigmo <[email hidden]> writes:

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> I have a couple more things: > > 1) the bikes, aside from the paint jobs, don't even remotely resemble > 500 GP bikes. > > 2) the physics really are a load of shite. or maybe the bikes just > have way too much grip. that may be it. hard to tell.

on second thought, I may only have tried it in arcade mode. -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 FJ�SE!