OT: Speedvision, the End is beginning

Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a daily recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will be first step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will see this time next year? dave henrie

I saw the ads for that tonight, too. Bummer. :-( Did you see the Silver Arrows special the other night (the "History of Audi" documentary)? GREAT show!!! Things like that will be missed. -- JB On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:30:25 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a daily >recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will be first >step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will see this >time next year? >dave henrie > >

John Bodin wrote: > I saw the ads for that tonight, too. Bummer. > > :-( Nooooooooo! :-( -- Stuff You Gotta Have software for BeOS and PalmOS http://www.stuffyougottahave.com/

On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:30:25 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a daily >recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will be first >step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will see this >time next year? >dave henrie Look at the Speedvision lineup - they can dump the crap they have on there and replace it with NASCAR, which will actually bring in dollars. Let's hope these programming changes insure the future of Speedvision and it's diverse coverage. I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows. -Scott Johnson "There is nothing, I think, more unfortunate than to have soft, chubby, fat-looking children who go to watch their school play basketball every Saturday and regard that as their week's exercise." - John F. Kennedy, 1962

> I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows. I'm not a boat restoring kinda person but i rather watch that than nascar. Come on, 43 red necks turning left for four hours then a daily hour long show that recaps there left turning abilities...

"Top Sirloin" <> > > Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, adaily > >recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will befirst > >step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will seethis

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> >time next year? > >dave henrie > > Look at the Speedvision lineup - they can dump the crap they have on > there and replace it with NASCAR, which will actually bring in > dollars. Let's hope these programming changes insure the future of > Speedvision and it's diverse coverage. > > I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows. > > > -Scott Johnson

Yeah, I'll miss all that crap too, the ALMS coverage, since it conflicts with the Nascar partner SCCA Grand AM, will be gone, The sedan coverage, even though this year there was precious little, can't have folks seeing V8 Aussie cars and wonder why the Winston Cup rigs look heavy. 24hours of Le Mans...Are you kidding me..it comes right in the middle of the Winston....Cart News Coverage?--In a program called 'Totally Nascar'? Rallye? Yeah SV has a lot of filler crap, but that ain't the stuff that will be going bye-bye...I hope you get to like Bill Dye's BassMasters Fishing Tourneys...You'll be seeing alot more of that than Non-Nascar event coverage. dave henrie (print this up...save it...look at it in a year,, then come back and tell me what got tossed, fishin or racing? dh

Don't get me wrong....I like Nascar....But I also like other forms of racing as well. I just don't see how a channel focusing on one aspect of racing can serve my interests. dave henrie "Shaun Robinson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:> I'm not a boat restoring kinda person but i rather watch that than > nascar. Come on, 43 red necks turning left for four hours then a daily > hour long show that recaps there left turning abilities...

read this article http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/motorcycles/ama_superbike/010708d.html On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:30:25 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a daily >recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will be first >step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will see this >time next year? >dave henrie >

<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > read this article AMA SUPERBIKE Speedvision To Air 2002 Daytona 200 Speedvision Productions President Dan Murphy Monterey, CA, July 8 - At the conclusion of the Race Two Press Conference this afternoon at the Honda International Superbike Classic Speedvision Productions President Dan Murphy took the stage and made the following announcement: "Daytona International Speedway and Speedvision announced today that the main event, the Daytona 200 from Bike Week at the 'World Center of Racing', will be televised on Speedvision beginning with the 2002 season!" Whom do you suppose owns DIS? Hopefully this means we won't have to wait 6 weeks til the AMA race is telecast, like this year, but still it is just another offshoot of the Giant Umbrella called Nascar. Grand Am and the Rolex 24 hours most likely will survive...but other Euro series will most likely disappear. dave(black day)henrie >http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/motorcycles/ama_superbike/010708d.ht ml > > On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:30:25 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, adaily > >recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will befirst > >step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will seethis > >time next year? > >dave henrie > > >

On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 17:22:32 GMT, [email hidden] (Top Sirloin) wrote:

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>On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:30:25 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >> Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a daily >>recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will be first >>step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will see this >>time next year? >>dave henrie > >Look at the Speedvision lineup - they can dump the crap they have on >there and replace it with NASCAR, which will actually bring in >dollars. Let's hope these programming changes insure the future of >Speedvision and it's diverse coverage. > >I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows.

You're taking the narrow view, Scott -- how many boating enthusiasts would rather see more NASCAR programming on Speedvision, as opposed to historic documentaries on the history of Audi -- all in the name of ensuring that Speedvision will be able to continue carrying boat restoration shows? The arrival of NASCAR programming means we won't be seeing things like boat restoration, historic racing documentaries (other than NASCAR), rally racing, F1 coverage, airshow coverage, etc. -- ALL of which have helped make Speedvision what it is. And all of which will have NOTHING to do with a "NASCAR Channel" -- or no place there, either. Wake up and smell the coffee -- NASCAR means the death of Speedvision as we know it. It's not a "for better or worse" situation -- it's DEFINITELY going to get worse. :-( -- JB

On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:58:36 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"Top Sirloin" <> >> > Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a >daily >> >recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will be >first >> >step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will see >this >> >time next year? >> >dave henrie >> >> Look at the Speedvision lineup - they can dump the crap they have on >> there and replace it with NASCAR, which will actually bring in >> dollars. Let's hope these programming changes insure the future of >> Speedvision and it's diverse coverage. >> >> I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows. >> >> >> -Scott Johnson > Yeah, I'll miss all that crap too, the ALMS coverage, since it conflicts >with the Nascar partner SCCA Grand AM, will be gone, The sedan coverage, >even though this year there was precious little, can't have folks seeing V8 >Aussie cars and wonder why the Winston Cup rigs look heavy. 24hours of Le >Mans...Are you kidding me..it comes right in the middle of the >Winston....Cart News Coverage?--In a program called 'Totally Nascar'? >Rallye? Yeah SV has a lot of filler crap, but that ain't the stuff that >will be going bye-bye...I hope you get to like Bill Dye's BassMasters >Fishing Tourneys...You'll be seeing alot more of that than Non-Nascar event >coverage. >dave henrie >(print this up...save it...look at it in a year,, then come back and tell me >what got tossed, fishin or racing? >dh

Unfortunately, I believe you're 100% correct on this one, Dave. :-( -- JB

Read it, and then read between the lines: "Speedvision's coverage is a win-win for the sport," said Speedway President John Graham. Meaning, Speedvision is a win-win for ANYTHING that has any remote tie-in with NASCAR. Do you think they would air the Superbike championship during NASCAR's Speedweeks if the Superbike event was at Lime Rock? This benefits NASCAR, plain and simple -- it has nothing to do with providing good coverage of motorsports. Hollow rhetoric. We'll see no more Speedvision Cup, and no more American LeMans, either -- not with NASCAR's own Grand Am series needing coverage. :-/ -- JB On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 21:24:19 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:

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>read this article >http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/motorcycles/ama_superbike/010708d.html > >On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:30:25 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >> Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a daily >>recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will be first >>step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will see this >>time next year? >>dave henrie >> >

>"Top Sirloin" <[email hidden]> wrote > Look at the Speedvision lineup - they can dump the crap they have on > there and replace it with NASCAR, which will actually bring in > dollars. Quality vs. quantity. I don't consider Speedvision's lineup to be of bad quality. Some shows are questionnable, for sure it's not a perfect lineup, but another time a big reason of SV's popularity is the lack of NASCAR. > I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows. About every NASCAR coverage possible is on the other channels, what's the need to add more? There won't be nothing new. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"Shaun Robinson" <[email hidden]> wrote > I'm not a boat restoring kinda person but i rather watch that than > nascar. Come on, 43 red necks turning left for four hours then a daily > hour long show that recaps there left turning abilities... Well that's pretty much closed minded also. Most of the people appreciate the "STOCK CAR" coverage on Speedvision. It's different then the "NASCAR" coverage. There's plenty of great short track oval racing on Speedvision. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Yeah, and I'd take more lawnmowever and swamp buggy racing over F1 Parades. ;) -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 4395450 http://www.Husted.cc "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 17:22:32 GMT, [email hidden] (Top > Sirloin) wrote: > > >On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:30:25 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > >wrote: > > > >> Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a daily > >>recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will be first > >>step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will see this > >>time next year? > >>dave henrie > > > >Look at the Speedvision lineup - they can dump the crap they have on > >there and replace it with NASCAR, which will actually bring in > >dollars. Let's hope these programming changes insure the future of > >Speedvision and it's diverse coverage. > > > >I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows. > > You're taking the narrow view, Scott -- how many boating enthusiasts > would rather see more NASCAR programming on Speedvision, as opposed to > historic documentaries on the history of Audi -- all in the name of > ensuring that Speedvision will be able to continue carrying boat > restoration shows? > > The arrival of NASCAR programming means we won't be seeing things like > boat restoration, historic racing documentaries (other than NASCAR), > rally racing, F1 coverage, airshow coverage, etc. -- ALL of which have > helped make Speedvision what it is. And all of which will have > NOTHING to do with a "NASCAR Channel" -- or no place there, either. > > Wake up and smell the coffee -- NASCAR means the death of Speedvision > as we know it. It's not a "for better or worse" situation -- it's > DEFINITELY going to get worse. > > :-( > > -- JB

Ya' gotta luv dose sitt'n lawn'mower races.. hahaha "Scott B. Husted" wrote: | Yeah, and I'd take more lawnmowever and swamp buggy racing over F1Parades. | ;) | -- | Scott B. Husted --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

I like the boat guy. He films in and around Jupiter Florida. It's about the only time my old hometown is on TV, unless some parents are getting into a fist fight at a high school sporting event. But back to the point. Nascar-Vision will be great for American short track racing, bad for american road racing, except the LeMans series which NASCAR has a part of (I think.) btgoss "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Read it, and then read between the lines: > > "Speedvision's coverage is a win-win for the sport," said Speedway > President John Graham. > > Meaning, Speedvision is a win-win for ANYTHING that has any remote > tie-in with NASCAR. Do you think they would air the Superbike > championship during NASCAR's Speedweeks if the Superbike event was at > Lime Rock? This benefits NASCAR, plain and simple -- it has nothing > to do with providing good coverage of motorsports. > > Hollow rhetoric. We'll see no more Speedvision Cup, and no more > American LeMans, either -- not with NASCAR's own Grand Am series > needing coverage. > > :-/ > > -- JB > > On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 21:24:19 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: > > >read this article > >http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/motorcycles/ama_superbike/010708d.h

tml > > > >On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:30:25 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > >wrote: > > > >> Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, adaily > >>recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will befirst > >>step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will seethis > >>time next year? > >>dave henrie > >> > > >

I'm frankly kind of fond of the swamp buggy races myself -- which is why I'm probably the ONLY member of this newsgroup who actually owns a copy of "Swamp Buggy Racing." :-/ -- JB On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 03:28:26 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Ya' gotta luv dose sitt'n lawn'mower races.. hahaha > >"Scott B. Husted" wrote: >| Yeah, and I'd take more lawnmowever and swamp buggy racing over F1 >Parades. >| ;) >| -- >| Scott B. Husted > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001 > >

Good point about the benefit to American short track racing, Brian. Hopefully that will mean some expanded IRL coverage as well -- like maybe a weekly "Insider the IRL" program or such. -- JB On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 03:37:31 GMT, "btgoss" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I like the boat guy. He films in and around Jupiter Florida. It's about the >only time my old hometown is on TV, unless some parents are getting into a >fist fight at a high school sporting event. > >But back to the point. Nascar-Vision will be great for American short track >racing, bad for american road racing, except the LeMans series which NASCAR >has a part of (I think.) > >btgoss > > >"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Read it, and then read between the lines: >> >> "Speedvision's coverage is a win-win for the sport," said Speedway >> President John Graham. >> >> Meaning, Speedvision is a win-win for ANYTHING that has any remote >> tie-in with NASCAR. Do you think they would air the Superbike >> championship during NASCAR's Speedweeks if the Superbike event was at >> Lime Rock? This benefits NASCAR, plain and simple -- it has nothing >> to do with providing good coverage of motorsports. >> >> Hollow rhetoric. We'll see no more Speedvision Cup, and no more >> American LeMans, either -- not with NASCAR's own Grand Am series >> needing coverage. >> >> :-/ >> >> -- JB >> >> On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 21:24:19 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: >> >> >read this article >> >>http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/motorcycles/ama_superbike/010708d.h >tml >> > >> >On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:30:25 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> >> >wrote: >> > >> >> Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a >daily >> >>recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will be >first >> >>step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will see >this >> >>time next year? >> >>dave henrie >> >> >> > >> > >

Well hell, it's more entertaining than an F1 parade! =) -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 4395450 http://www.Husted.cc "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'm frankly kind of fond of the swamp buggy races myself -- which is > why I'm probably the ONLY member of this newsgroup who actually owns a > copy of "Swamp Buggy Racing." > > :-/ > > -- JB > > On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 03:28:26 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Ya' gotta luv dose sitt'n lawn'mower races.. hahaha > > > >"Scott B. Husted" wrote: > >| Yeah, and I'd take more lawnmowever and swamp buggy racing over F1 > >Parades. > >| ;) > >| -- > >| Scott B. Husted > > > > > > > >--- > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001 > > > > >

Well they have a limited de-facto partnership. IRL runs on several tracks owned by Nascar participants. expect something... dave henrie "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Good point about the benefit to American short track racing, Brian. > Hopefully that will mean some expanded IRL coverage as well -- like > maybe a weekly "Insider the IRL" program or such. > > -- JB > > On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 03:37:31 GMT, "btgoss" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I like the boat guy. He films in and around Jupiter Florida. It's about

the > >only time my old hometown is on TV, unless some parents are getting intoa > >fist fight at a high school sporting event. > > > >But back to the point. Nascar-Vision will be great for American shorttrack > >racing, bad for american road racing, except the LeMans series whichNASCAR

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> >has a part of (I think.) > > > >btgoss > > > > > >"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> Read it, and then read between the lines: > >> > >> "Speedvision's coverage is a win-win for the sport," said Speedway > >> President John Graham. > >> > >> Meaning, Speedvision is a win-win for ANYTHING that has any remote > >> tie-in with NASCAR. Do you think they would air the Superbike > >> championship during NASCAR's Speedweeks if the Superbike event was at > >> Lime Rock? This benefits NASCAR, plain and simple -- it has nothing > >> to do with providing good coverage of motorsports. > >> > >> Hollow rhetoric. We'll see no more Speedvision Cup, and no more > >> American LeMans, either -- not with NASCAR's own Grand Am series > >> needing coverage. > >> > >> :-/ > >> > >> -- JB > >> > >> On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 21:24:19 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: > >> > >> >read this article > >> > >>http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/motorcycles/ama_superbike/010708d.

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Amazing, you slam on "rednecks" yet can't figure out whether to use there / their properly. Priceless.... P.S. - yeah, I know - knocking on spelliing, grammar, etc. is kinda lame - BUT when someone is trying to sound pompous / elitist / etc. - I think it's kinda justified <VBG> "Shaun Robinson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows. > > I'm not a boat restoring kinda person but i rather watch that than > nascar. Come on, 43 red necks turning left for four hours then a daily > hour long show that recaps there left turning abilities...

Again, the world is getting smaller and smaller for Americans, and I don't see what good is that for. Maybe more so called "world champions", but less to do anything with the World. Sound authistic, doesn't it? Darko "Ken Beard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zuV87.279$[email hidden]... > Amazing, you slam on "rednecks" yet can't figure out whether to use there/ > their properly. > > Priceless.... > > P.S. - yeah, I know - knocking on spelliing, grammar, etc. is kinda lame - > BUT when someone is trying to sound pompous / elitist / etc. - I thinkit's

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> kinda justified <VBG> > > > "Shaun Robinson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows. > > > > I'm not a boat restoring kinda person but i rather watch that than > > nascar. Come on, 43 red necks turning left for four hours then a daily > > hour long show that recaps there left turning abilities... > > >

Who are you, and what did you do with the REAL Scott??? -- Sean Higgins Redline Racing League www.rrlnrs.com Redline BGN Division http://home.sprintmail.com/~higgy/RRL/ "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Yeah, and I'd take more lawnmowever and swamp buggy racing over F1 Parades. > ;) > > -- > Scott B. Husted > ICQ# 4395450 > http://www.Husted.cc > > > "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 17:22:32 GMT, [email hidden] (Top > > Sirloin) wrote: > > > > >On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:30:25 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > > >wrote: > > > > > >> Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a > daily > > >>recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will be > first > > >>step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will see > this > > >>time next year? > > >>dave henrie > > > > > >Look at the Speedvision lineup - they can dump the crap they have on > > >there and replace it with NASCAR, which will actually bring in > > >dollars. Let's hope these programming changes insure the future of > > >Speedvision and it's diverse coverage. > > > > > >I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows. > > > > You're taking the narrow view, Scott -- how many boating enthusiasts > > would rather see more NASCAR programming on Speedvision, as opposed to > > historic documentaries on the history of Audi -- all in the name of > > ensuring that Speedvision will be able to continue carrying boat > > restoration shows? > > > > The arrival of NASCAR programming means we won't be seeing things like > > boat restoration, historic racing documentaries (other than NASCAR), > > rally racing, F1 coverage, airshow coverage, etc. -- ALL of which have > > helped make Speedvision what it is. And all of which will have > > NOTHING to do with a "NASCAR Channel" -- or no place there, either. > > > > Wake up and smell the coffee -- NASCAR means the death of Speedvision > > as we know it. It's not a "for better or worse" situation -- it's > > DEFINITELY going to get worse. > > > > :-( > > > > -- JB > >

On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:58:36 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Yeah SV has a lot of filler crap, but that ain't the stuff that >will be going bye-bye...I hope you get to like Bill Dye's BassMasters >Fishing Tourneys.. It's easy to take the extremist viewpoint, but SV is going to keep the programming that brings in $$, and filler crap will be the first to go. -Scott Johnson "You know I could be a fascist, it's just too much trouble. I'm not into popularity, and since most people are dumb asses keeping tabs on them would be a real chore." -Chief in alt.conspiracy

On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 23:13:33 GMT, [email hidden] (John Bodin) wrote: >Wake up and smell the coffee -- NASCAR means the death of Speedvision >as we know it. It's not a "for better or worse" situation -- it's >DEFINITELY going to get worse. I am smelling the coffee. SV's chance of being profitable with it's current lineup is _small_. Adding some NASCAR programming is going to help insure that the things we all want to see are going to hang around. I hope. -Scott Johnson "You know I could be a fascist, it's just too much trouble. I'm not into popularity, and since most people are dumb asses keeping tabs on them would be a real chore." -Chief in alt.conspiracy

On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:06:49 GMT, "Sean Higgins" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Who are you, and what did you do with the REAL Scott??? Every newsgroup has too many damn Scotts. :-) -Scott Johnson "There is nothing, I think, more unfortunate than to have soft, chubby, fat-looking children who go to watch their school play basketball every Saturday and regard that as their week's exercise." - John F. Kennedy, 1962

For me the beauty of speedvision is the diversity and sheer quality of information. Legends: you know, an hour long show on Nouvalari (sp?) or a single season of MG racing in the 50s. One of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in my life was a show in which Alain DeCadenet (sp?) drove all the great Porsches. I almost cried when they fired up the 908. (904? The little black thing.) Or how about when Alain D. did the same thing with Ferrari? Hanging out on the lawn at Goodwood. In car with Moss at Laguna. That viewing of Le Mans, the movie, this year.... with the interviews of the film makers... Phenomenal! With nascarvision we can pretty much forget about the Dakar coverage. For me the sign will be when DeCadenet goes. Once they can him you know they are serious about driving the final stake through the heart of racing in America. "Get it off TV then they won't bicker when we make right turns illegal in the WKA and IKF." Them nascar hick fucksticks can't stand to see a talented driver go. Just ruins their day. ...and don't even get 'em started on a proper racing car... nothing should weigh 1000 pounds. "Racing! - Science for the action minded." mark "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 17:22:32 GMT, [email hidden] (Top > Sirloin) wrote: > > >On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:30:25 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > >wrote: > > > >> Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a

daily > >>recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will befirst > >>step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will seethis

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> >>time next year? > >>dave henrie > > > >Look at the Speedvision lineup - they can dump the crap they have on > >there and replace it with NASCAR, which will actually bring in > >dollars. Let's hope these programming changes insure the future of > >Speedvision and it's diverse coverage. > > > >I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows. > > You're taking the narrow view, Scott -- how many boating enthusiasts > would rather see more NASCAR programming on Speedvision, as opposed to > historic documentaries on the history of Audi -- all in the name of > ensuring that Speedvision will be able to continue carrying boat > restoration shows? > > The arrival of NASCAR programming means we won't be seeing things like > boat restoration, historic racing documentaries (other than NASCAR), > rally racing, F1 coverage, airshow coverage, etc. -- ALL of which have > helped make Speedvision what it is. And all of which will have > NOTHING to do with a "NASCAR Channel" -- or no place there, either. > > Wake up and smell the coffee -- NASCAR means the death of Speedvision > as we know it. It's not a "for better or worse" situation -- it's > DEFINITELY going to get worse. > > :-( > > -- JB

"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I saw the ads for that tonight, too. Bummer. > > :-( > > Did you see the Silver Arrows special the other night (the "History of > Audi" documentary)? GREAT show!!! Things like that will be missed. Caught that... marvelous! A real shame the format is changing. :-(

> I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows. Somebody over in alt.recreation.boating probably is, I bet. My wife once commented on the amount of non-auto programming and all I could say is that it IS "SPEEDvision" after all, and no doubt there are boating and aviation enthusiasts out there who'll miss that stuff as much as I'll miss the live F1 and Le Mans broadcasts. We niche groups have to stick together. :-)

In article <[email hidden]>, Top Sirloin <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:30:25 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a daily > >recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will be first > >step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will see this > >time next year? > >dave henrie > > Look at the Speedvision lineup - they can dump the crap they have on > there and replace it with NASCAR, which will actually bring in > dollars. Let's hope these programming changes insure the future of > Speedvision and it's diverse coverage. > > I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows. > > > -Scott Johnson

...and it is in the decisions Fox will make about what is "crap" and what is not that I am most worried. Tim

In article <eI597.11419$[email hidden]>, mark jeangerard <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> For me the beauty of speedvision is the diversity and sheer quality of > information. Legends: you know, an hour long show on Nouvalari (sp?) or a > single season of MG racing in the 50s. One of the most beautiful things I've > ever seen in my life was a show in which Alain DeCadenet (sp?) drove all the > great Porsches. I almost cried when they fired up the 908. (904? The little > black thing.) Or how about when Alain D. did the same thing with Ferrari? > Hanging out on the lawn at Goodwood. In car with Moss at Laguna. That > viewing of Le Mans, the movie, this year.... with the interviews of the film > makers... Phenomenal! > > With nascarvision we can pretty much forget about the Dakar coverage. > > For me the sign will be when DeCadenet goes. Once they can him you know they > are serious about driving the final stake through the heart of racing in > America. "Get it off TV then they won't bicker when we make right turns > illegal in the WKA and IKF." Them nascar hick fucksticks can't stand to see > a talented driver go. Just ruins their day. > > ...and don't even get 'em started on a proper racing car... nothing should > weigh 1000 pounds. >

Mark- This thread is pretty dark, and I felt the same way when I first saw the new ad for Totally NASCAR. (An ominous title if ever there was one!) The above riff was well stated. The DeCadenet specials Victory By Design of both Porche and Ferrari were wonderful, and moved me to send an email to Speedvision, to which I got a detailed reply from them thanking me for the input and saying my message was being forwarded to the producers. I really like SV because they care about all forms of racing, and we the fans. Hope it stays that way. Hobbs and DeCadenet do the bulk of the work of the vintage racing programs. Their exit would definitely mean the end of Speedvisin as we have known it, but let's hope that never happens. Tim

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> "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 17:22:32 GMT, [email hidden] (Top > > Sirloin) wrote: > > > > >On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 01:30:25 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > > >wrote: > > > > > >> Mark your calendars. August 6th the Fox program Totally Nascar, a > daily > > >>recap of Nascar news, comes to Speedvision. This most likely will be > first > > >>step in the takeover of SV. I wonder how much Euro racing we will see > this > > >>time next year? > > >>dave henrie > > > > > >Look at the Speedvision lineup - they can dump the crap they have on > > >there and replace it with NASCAR, which will actually bring in > > >dollars. Let's hope these programming changes insure the future of > > >Speedvision and it's diverse coverage. > > > > > >I won't be shedding tears for the loss of boat restoration shows. > > > > You're taking the narrow view, Scott -- how many boating enthusiasts > > would rather see more NASCAR programming on Speedvision, as opposed to > > historic documentaries on the history of Audi -- all in the name of > > ensuring that Speedvision will be able to continue carrying boat > > restoration shows? > > > > The arrival of NASCAR programming means we won't be seeing things like > > boat restoration, historic racing documentaries (other than NASCAR), > > rally racing, F1 coverage, airshow coverage, etc. -- ALL of which have > > helped make Speedvision what it is. And all of which will have > > NOTHING to do with a "NASCAR Channel" -- or no place there, either. > > > > Wake up and smell the coffee -- NASCAR means the death of Speedvision > > as we know it. It's not a "for better or worse" situation -- it's > > DEFINITELY going to get worse. > > > > :-( > > > > -- JB

I have read most of the replies to this topic and, like you guys I fear the worst. I am watching the speedvision touring car and gt challenge as I write this it would be a shame to lose such gtreat racing as this.

Today I saw Mitsubishi rally preparation and testing and outdoor trials on motorbikes. Didn't even plan on watching TV today. Just caught my eye. -- "Racing! - Science for the action minded." mark "RoAdRaCeRv6" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I have read most of the replies to this topic and, like you guys I fear the > worst. I am watching the speedvision touring car and gt challenge as I write > this it would be a shame to lose such gtreat racing as this.