Anyone get the GP3 add-on yet?

I read it was supposed to be released yesterday. Anyone get it, and how is it if they did?

"01001110 01101111 01110010" <?@noemail.invalid> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I read it was supposed to be released yesterday. Anyone get it, and > how is it if they did? Think it's been pushed back. I heard September now, but not for sure.

No one here's actually going to BUY It are they? It's not going to make the game any better You can already patch it for 3D sound and the physics is not being altered in any way As a gesture of disaproval of the FARCE that was GP3 - I urge all to not buy the add on - and at the VERY LEAST - wait for a demo before ordering GP4 Douglas Ellison "Anthony Brooks" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > "01001110 01101111 01110010" <?@noemail.invalid> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I read it was supposed to be released yesterday. Anyone get it, and > > how is it if they did? > > Think it's been pushed back. I heard September now, but not for sure. > > > >

On Sat, 4 Aug 2001 09:40:02 +0100, "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote: >No one here's actually going to BUY It are they? > >It's not going to make the game any better > >You can already patch it for 3D sound and the physics is not being altered >in any way I read the physics are being altered to match the updated cars of the 2000 season. I might buy it if it gets favourable comments.

On Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:19:04 -0500, "Anthony Brooks" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Think it's been pushed back. I heard September now, but not for sure. > OK, I did read friday somewhere, but see now that softwarefirst says Sept.

In article <WwOa7.559$[email hidden]>, "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> writes: >No one here's actually going to BUY It are they? > >It's not going to make the game any better > >You can already patch it for 3D sound and the physics is not being altered >in any way What exactly is/was the patch supposed to do, besides 3D sound? If that's it, it would be wasted money for me, because I'm not running 3D speakers... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

IIRC even with just two speakers, you still get to hear the other cars and positional audio using GPxPatch. Jan. =--- "EldredP" wrote... > <snip> > What exactly is/was the patch supposed to do, besides > 3D sound? If that's it, it would be wasted money for > me, because I'm not running 3D speakers... > > Eldred

On 04 Aug 2001 19:22:48 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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>In article <WwOa7.559$[email hidden]>, "Douglas >Ellison" <[email hidden]> writes: > >>No one here's actually going to BUY It are they? >> >>It's not going to make the game any better >> >>You can already patch it for 3D sound and the physics is not being altered >>in any way > >What exactly is/was the patch supposed to do, besides 3D sound? If that's it, >it would be wasted money for me, because I'm not running 3D speakers... > >Eldred

Which patch? The official GP3 add-on isn't out yet but I believe that it will use 3D sound effects using appropriate soundcards and EAX drivers. The free GPxPatch and the other unofficial patches do a lot of the things that the official add-on will do...even with two speakers at least you'll be able to tell if a car is on the left or right of you (the mirrors don't cover enough area like alongside of the car!). The full list of things for the add-on is here (lifted from the Alpha site)... ------------------------------------------------------ 1. Official FIA 2000 license including all teams and drivers 2. Two new tracks: Indianapolis and Sepang 3. Updated original tracks to match the 2000 season including new ad banners 4. New track details: Catch fencing and camera crews on the track 5. Debris collisions: Eg. hitting a wheel on the track will damage your front wing 6. Pit to car radio messages (only some useful messages) 3d audio: hear sounds also from the other cars. Uses EAX standard and you can hear reverbs from tunnels and pits. 7. Full replay mode: Use the function keys to rewinds, pause, etc the game. Up to 1,5 hours are recorded. 8. New game mode - Quicklap: Useful if you have two setups for one track and you want to test them under the exact same condtions. Makes the game also more fun if you just want to have a quick competition with your pals with one computer. Basically the lap starts behind the S/F line with full speed and ends when you have crossed it again. 9. GPaedia: a GP3 encyclopaedia. Made in cooperation with Arrows F1 team to show eg. how the setup up your car, what are bump rubbers, etc. 10. New startup video -- Kulvinder Singh Matharu E-mail : ksmatharu # ieee . org [without the spaces and where #=@] Website: http://www.matharu.demon.co.uk/ "In the light universe I have been darkness..."

Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote: > The full list of things for the add-on is here (lifted from the Alpha > site)... > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > 1. Official FIA 2000 license including all teams and drivers Available free on the net (as is the 2001 season) > > 2. Two new tracks: Indianapolis and Sepang Available free on the net > > 3. Updated original tracks to match the 2000 season including new ad > banners Available free on the net > > 4. New track details: Catch fencing and camera crews on the track Available free on the net

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> > 5. Debris collisions: Eg. hitting a wheel on the track will damage > your front wing > > 6. Pit to car radio messages (only some useful messages) 3d audio: > hear sounds also from the other cars. Uses EAX standard and you can > hear reverbs from tunnels and pits.

Available free on the net

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> > 7. Full replay mode: Use the function keys to rewinds, pause, etc the > game. Up to 1,5 hours are recorded. > > 8. New game mode - Quicklap: Useful if you have two setups for one > track and you want to test them under the exact same condtions. Makes > the game also more fun if you just want to have a quick competition > with your pals with one computer. Basically the lap starts behind the > S/F line with full speed and ends when you have crossed it again. > > 9. GPaedia: a GP3 encyclopaedia. Made in cooperation with Arrows F1 > team to show eg. how the setup up your car, what are bump rubbers, > etc.

hmm... > > 10. New startup video wow! :-/ So basically better replay things and debris collision. I think I'll save my money.... Kev

On Mon, 06 Aug 2001 10:55:08 +0100, Kevin Clark <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> 7. Full replay mode: Use the function keys to rewinds, pause, etc the >> game. Up to 1,5 hours are recorded. >> to add to your list. 'On the Net'. GP3 Video allows you to have unlimited replays with forward and back skipping (sorta like rewind, fastforward but in fixed jumps of 25 seconds). also jump to start and end of replay. Regards all, istoff "Its easy to get lost in thought if you don't go there often" - Me, 1993

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> > On Mon, 06 Aug 2001 10:55:08 +0100, Kevin Clark > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >> > >> 7. Full replay mode: Use the function keys to rewinds, pause, etc the > >> game. Up to 1,5 hours are recorded. > >> > to add to your list. 'On the Net'. > > GP3 Video allows you to have unlimited replays with forward and back > skipping (sorta like rewind, fastforward but in fixed jumps of 25 > seconds). > > also jump to start and end of replay. > > Regards all, > istoff

Cool. Didn't know about that. Thanks. Kev

In article <[email hidden]>, Kevin Clark <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> 1. Official FIA 2000 license including all teams and drivers > >Available free on the net (as is the 2001 season) > >> >> 2. Two new tracks: Indianapolis and Sepang > >Available free on the net

From where? I'll start by checking BH Motorsports... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

EldredP wrote:

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> > In article <[email hidden]>, Kevin Clark > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >> 1. Official FIA 2000 license including all teams and drivers > > > >Available free on the net (as is the 2001 season) > > > >> > >> 2. Two new tracks: Indianapolis and Sepang > > > >Available free on the net > > From where? I'll start by checking BH Motorsports...

Indy and Sepang are here http://gp3.gamers.nl/download_tracks_2000.html Kev

On Mon, 06 Aug 2001 10:55:08 +0100, Kevin Clark <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote: > >> The full list of things for the add-on is here (lifted from the Alpha >> site)... >> >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> 1. Official FIA 2000 license including all teams and drivers > >Available free on the net (as is the 2001 season)

[snip] Yep. I've got all the updates and it's a blast! I've got the following : 1. GP3Video for *long* video playback 2. 2001 carsets inc carshapes 3. 2001 physics updates 4. Updated 1998 trackpack plus Sepang, Indy and Monza track updates 5. New tracks such as a fictional "Honza" oval and the Rio oval track 6. GPxPatch for "3D" car sounds, new telemetry, pit radio sounds, track selections, etc (fantastic job by the people there!) 7. NOCD patch 8. GPEdit and GPMaster for control over car power, relative team dependent power, damage editor, colours, etc. It's all there. I think the GPxPatch for the 3D sounds is one of the most dramatic patches! -- Kulvinder Singh Matharu E-mail : ksmatharu # ieee . org [without the spaces and where #=@] Website: http://www.matharu.demon.co.uk/ "In the light universe I have been darkness..."

In article <[email hidden]>, Kevin Clark <[email hidden]> writes: >Indy and Sepang are here >http://gp3.gamers.nl/download_tracks_2000.html > >Kev > Thanks! Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Mon, 06 Aug 2001 10:55:08 +0100, Kevin Clark <[email hidden]> mangled uncounted electrons thus: <snip> >> 2. Two new tracks: Indianapolis and Sepang > >Available free on the net For the perfectionist, of course, it should be noted that although these tracks are indeed available on the net (I favour alphaf1.com myself ^_^ ) you will still be restricted to a 16-race season and must drop an existing track to add the 2 new ones. That's not good if you want to run a full 17-race season... Martin D. Pay Who will probably buy the add-on...

"Martin D. Pay" > That's not good if you want to run a full 17-race season... That is why the calculator was invented. Run your season. Start a new one with the new tracks...add the results.... dave henrie > > Martin D. Pay > Who will probably buy the add-on... >

"Martin D. Pay" wrote:

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> > On Mon, 06 Aug 2001 10:55:08 +0100, Kevin Clark > <[email hidden]> mangled uncounted electrons thus: > > <snip> > > >> 2. Two new tracks: Indianapolis and Sepang > > > >Available free on the net > > For the perfectionist, of course, it should be noted that > although these tracks are indeed available on the net (I favour > alphaf1.com myself ^_^ ) you will still be restricted to a > 16-race season and must drop an existing track to add the 2 new > ones.

Let's face it, no-one likes Argentina anyway! :) So that's one out of the way......

Gamespot reviewed it 7.5/10. -Jani- Kevin Clark <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Martin D. Pay" wrote: > > > > On Mon, 06 Aug 2001 10:55:08 +0100, Kevin Clark > > <[email hidden]> mangled uncounted electrons thus: > > > > <snip> > > > > >> 2. Two new tracks: Indianapolis and Sepang > > > > > >Available free on the net > > > > For the perfectionist, of course, it should be noted that > > although these tracks are indeed available on the net (I favour > > alphaf1.com myself ^_^ ) you will still be restricted to a > > 16-race season and must drop an existing track to add the 2 new > > ones. > > Let's face it, no-one likes Argentina anyway! :) So that's one out of > the way......

On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 01:57:24 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> mangled uncounted electrons thus: > >"Martin D. Pay" > That's not good if you want to run a full 17-race >season... > That is why the calculator was invented. Run your season. Start a new >one with the new tracks...add the results.... >dave henrie <grin> That's not as satisfying as seeing all 17 results up on the screen... Martin D. Pay No smart .sig comes to mind...

On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 11:20:33 +0100, Kevin Clark <[email hidden]> mangled uncounted electrons thus:

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>"Martin D. Pay" wrote: >> For the perfectionist, of course, it should be noted that >> although these tracks are indeed available on the net (I favour >> alphaf1.com myself ^_^ ) you will still be restricted to a >> 16-race season and must drop an existing track to add the 2 new >> ones. > >Let's face it, no-one likes Argentina anyway! :) So that's one out of >the way......

Am I the only one who loathes Monaco? There's no real interest for me on a circuit where overtaking is to all intents and purposes impossible. Martin D. Pay Don't bother to flame me over this - I know I'm 'out of step' with most F1 aficionados...

"Martin D. Pay" > > Am I the only one who loathes Monaco? There's no real interest > for me on a circuit where overtaking is to all intents and > purposes impossible. uhmmm by any chance do you choose the Mclaren when you race Monaco?? :) :) ;> dave henrie > > Martin D. Pay > Don't bother to flame me over this - I know I'm 'out of step' > with most F1 aficionados...

"Martin D. Pay" > uhmmm by any chance do you choose the Mclaren when you race Monaco?? :) :) ;> dave henrie

Hehe, a good one :). -Gregor Dave Henrie wrote: > > uhmmm by any chance do you choose the Mclaren when you race Monaco?? :) > :) ;> > dave henrie

On Wed, 08 Aug 2001 01:31:37 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > uhmmm by any chance do you choose the Mclaren when you race Monaco?? :) >dave henrieexcellent :) apparently either you can't overtake or you get stuck on the grid with one of those... Regards all, istoff "Its easy to get lost in thought if you don't go there often" - Me, 1993

On Wed, 08 Aug 2001 01:31:37 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> mangled uncounted electrons thus:

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> >"Martin D. Pay" > >> Am I the only one who loathes Monaco? There's no real interest >> for me on a circuit where overtaking is to all intents and >> purposes impossible. > > uhmmm by any chance do you choose the Mclaren when you race Monaco?? :) >:) ;>

<grin> No, actually I prefer the Jordan (nicer colour...) ^_^ ^_^ Martin D. Pay It's not nice to make fun of those poor folks in the black-and-silver... ^_-

> > uhmmm by any chance do you choose the Mclaren when you race Monaco??:)

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> >:) ;> > > <grin> No, actually I prefer the Jordan (nicer colour...) ^_^ > ^_^ > > Martin D. Pay > It's not nice to make fun of those poor folks in the > black-and-silver... ^_-

Well THATS your problem then...here in the States....our SCHOOL BUSSES are painted yellow. Lots of low-end grunt, but the braking is mushy. dave henrie

On Wed, 08 Aug 2001 23:16:34 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> mangled uncounted electrons thus:

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>> > uhmmm by any chance do you choose the Mclaren when you race Monaco?? >:) >> >:) ;> >> >> <grin> No, actually I prefer the Jordan (nicer colour...) ^_^ >> ^_^ >> >> Martin D. Pay >> It's not nice to make fun of those poor folks in the >> black-and-silver... ^_- > Well THATS your problem then...here in the States....our SCHOOL BUSSES are >painted yellow. Lots of low-end grunt, but the braking is mushy.

Oddly enough First Plc (who operate quite a lot of school bus contracts in the US) are about to start an experiment using US-style school buses over here in the UK... Martin D. Pay Now I get Jean Alesi in my team... ^_^