GP3 framerate

Fairly short and sweet: 640x480 resolution, PO is about 120% in a race with a full field. I tried higher resolutions, because I couldn't see the track very well. At 800x600, PO is about 250%. At 1024x768, it's over 300%! Playing with the graphics options, I couldn't get it any faster than about 23 FPS on the test, and really didn't see any difference on the screen(quality-wise) DURING the test. Is that the limit? Yes, I've installed the patch. System:Athlon 1.3G, 128ram, Voodoo5, win98se. What makes it worse, I'll have an acceptable frame rate during qualifying, but when the race starts, it sucks. And, you can't change the graphics options once you've started the event. How brain-dead is THAT??? Still, I find it hard to believe that my system won't run this game any better than this... :( Help? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

That's odd. Your system should run GP3 very well. I can run GP3 in 1280x1240? (the one above 1024x768) with all cars and with the detail slider all the way to the maximum. No slowdown whatever. (P4, 1.3, GeForce 2 MX) That voodoo might be slowing you down. I'd flush out my drivers, reinstall them and the game again and hope for the best. Alanb "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Fairly short and sweet: > 640x480 resolution, PO is about 120% in a race with a full field. I tried > higher resolutions, because I couldn't see the track very well. At800x600, PO > is about 250%. At 1024x768, it's over 300%! Playing with the graphics > options, I couldn't get it any faster than about 23 FPS on the test, andreally > didn't see any difference on the screen(quality-wise) DURING the test. Isthat > the limit? Yes, I've installed the patch. > System:Athlon 1.3G, 128ram, Voodoo5, win98se. What makes it worse, I'llhave > an acceptable frame rate during qualifying, but when the race starts, itsucks. > And, you can't change the graphics options once you've started the event.How > brain-dead is THAT??? > Still, I find it hard to believe that my system won't run this game anybetter

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> than this... :( > Help? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Try sticking the V5 in 'single chip' mode instead of 'fastest performance'. I know it sounds like a crazy thing to try, but GP3 and the V5 don't get on too well. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Fairly short and sweet: > 640x480 resolution, PO is about 120% in a race with a full field. I tried > higher resolutions, because I couldn't see the track very well. At800x600, PO > is about 250%. At 1024x768, it's over 300%! Playing with the graphics > options, I couldn't get it any faster than about 23 FPS on the test, andreally > didn't see any difference on the screen(quality-wise) DURING the test. Isthat > the limit? Yes, I've installed the patch. > System:Athlon 1.3G, 128ram, Voodoo5, win98se. What makes it worse, I'llhave > an acceptable frame rate during qualifying, but when the race starts, itsucks. > And, you can't change the graphics options once you've started the event.How > brain-dead is THAT??? > Still, I find it hard to believe that my system won't run this game anybetter

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> than this... :( > Help? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

P400 Voodoo3 2000 1024x768, 25 fps, 100% occupancy, full field. You must have a problem, do you have the latest drivers for that V5beast? > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Fairly short and sweet: > > 640x480 resolution, PO is about 120% in a race with a full field. Itried > > higher resolutions, because I couldn't see the track very well. At > 800x600, PO > > is about 250%. At 1024x768, it's over 300%! Playing with the graphics > > options, I couldn't get it any faster than about 23 FPS on the test, and > really > > didn't see any difference on the screen(quality-wise) DURING the test.Is

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> that > > the limit? Yes, I've installed the patch. > > System:Athlon 1.3G, 128ram, Voodoo5, win98se. What makes it worse, I'll > have > > an acceptable frame rate during qualifying, but when the race starts, it > sucks. > > And, you can't change the graphics options once you've started the

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> How > > brain-dead is THAT??? > > Still, I find it hard to believe that my system won't run this game any > better > > than this... :( > > Help? > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > >

On 07 Aug 2001 01:41:01 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >Fairly short and sweet: >640x480 resolution, PO is about 120% in a race with a full field. I tried [snip] As Simon sez - there's a bug with GP3 and the V5 in normal dual-chip mode. Try single chip, or better yet, use 2xFSAA. AMD 1.4 T-bird, V5, 1024x768 2xFSAA and I get PO 50-60% most of the time, and this is with the FPS patch to up the FPS to 31! HTH, Kendt

Definitely some major prob, I get better frames with my V3 and 1ghz athlon, running at 1024x768, 25 fps pretty solid. Hopefully the other replies have nailed it for you. :) Rafe Mc On 07 Aug 2001 01:41:01 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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>Fairly short and sweet: >640x480 resolution, PO is about 120% in a race with a full field. I tried >higher resolutions, because I couldn't see the track very well. At 800x600, PO >is about 250%. At 1024x768, it's over 300%! Playing with the graphics >options, I couldn't get it any faster than about 23 FPS on the test, and really >didn't see any difference on the screen(quality-wise) DURING the test. Is that >the limit? Yes, I've installed the patch. >System:Athlon 1.3G, 128ram, Voodoo5, win98se. What makes it worse, I'll have >an acceptable frame rate during qualifying, but when the race starts, it sucks. > And, you can't change the graphics options once you've started the event. How >brain-dead is THAT??? >Still, I find it hard to believe that my system won't run this game any better >than this... :( >Help? > >Eldred

In article <AoIb7.85285$[email hidden]>, "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Subject: Re: GP3 framerate >From: "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> >Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 02:29:52 GMT > >Try sticking the V5 in 'single chip' mode instead of 'fastest performance'. >I know it sounds like a crazy thing to try, but GP3 and the V5 don't get on >too well.

I'll have to find that setting. Can you at least get me in the vicinity of the correct screen? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <8yIb7.356222$[email hidden]>, "rik anthrax" <[email hidden]> writes: >P400 Voodoo3 2000 1024x768, 25 fps, 100% occupancy, full field. >You must have a problem, do you have the latest drivers for that V5beast? I actually don't KNOW what drivers I have. I know I had to download them from 3dfxfiles.com, because I couldn't find my install CD when I re-did windows... So, they SHOULD be fairly recent, right? :-) Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <roIb7.106822$[email hidden]>, "Alan Bernardo" <[email hidden]> writes: >That's odd. Your system should run GP3 very well. I can run GP3 in >1280x1240? (the one above 1024x768) with all cars and with the detail slider >all the way to the maximum. No slowdown whatever. (P4, 1.3, GeForce 2 MX) >That voodoo might be slowing you down. I'd flush out my drivers, reinstall >them and the game again and hope for the best. > Ok - I'll try deleting and re-installing tonight. When I re-installed over the weekend, I didn't delete everything first... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Hehe, it's the anti-aliasing section in the V5 driver options :) "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > I'll have to find that setting. Can you at least get me in the vicinityof the

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> correct screen? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

So open up 3dfx tools and go to the anti-aliasing tab and put D3D on either single-chip or 2x FSAA, and see if it speeds up. Just wanted to add that as Kendt said 2x FSAA is just fast as single-chip, so you may as well use that. "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:okTb7.90945$[email hidden]... > Hehe, it's the anti-aliasing section in the V5 driver options :) >

On 07 Aug 2001 01:41:01 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >Fairly short and sweet: >640x480 resolution, PO is about 120% in a race with a full field. I tried >higher resolutions, because I couldn't see the track very well. At 800x600, PO >is about 250%. At 1024x768, it's over 300%! Playing with the graphics Very strange. My system is... Chip = 1GHz Athlon Thunderbird 512MB RAM Hercules 2D Prophet II GTS 32MB Graphics card OS = WinME The machine is nearly a year old so it isn't state-of-the-art anymore! I'm running in Hardware mode and at a resolution of 1024 x 768 with a PO of about 60-80%, although some external views in the rain may increase the PO to about 90-100%. Standard and obvious question : Have you got the latest graphics drivers? During the GP3 graphics test, you should, indeed, see a difference in the quality of the tests. I don't know much about the Voodoo5 card...I've got an nVidia chipset. You haven't got some kind of FSAA turned on? Turn it off! That's all I can suggest at this stage. Good luck! -- Kulvinder Singh Matharu E-mail : ksmatharu # ieee . org [without the spaces and where #=@] Website: http://www.matharu.demon.co.uk/ "In the light universe I have been darkness..."

In article <okTb7.90945$[email hidden]>, "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Hehe, it's the anti-aliasing section in the V5 driver options :) > >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> I'll have to find that setting. Can you at least get me in the vicinity >of the >> correct screen?

Oh, ok. You mentioned 'single-chip' mode, and I haven't checked those tabs for that to ring a bell...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I haven't messed with it lately, but I definitely recall that it runs FASTER on the V5 with anti-aliasing ON than OFF. I've seen some alude to this in their posts but I don't think they've got it quite right. Some games only run on the V5 putting it in "single-chip" mode, but for those that don't have this problem "normal" (both chips, no AA) is the fastest, followed by 2x and then 4x FSAA. GP3 for some reason seems to actually use "single-chip" mode when you have it set to "normal" - so it's only using half the power of the V5, hence the horrid framerates. But when you set the Anti-aliasing to 2x, which is normally of course 10-20% slower than "normal" - GP3 gets MUCH better FPS. Just go to the 3dfx icon in the taskbar, right click, bring up "3dfx Hub" - then "3dfx Anti Aliasing", and select "2 sample AA" for Direct3D. It seems that turning on 2x FSAA forces it to use both chips, so even with the bit of speed loss with FSAA it runs much better than just on the single chip - and looks better to boot. I recall getting 50% qualifying and sub-100% race PO ratings with most everything on, 1024x768, on my old Athlon 700 / Voodoo5 - so it should scream on the 1.3 Ghz. -- Ken's Sig 3.2 "Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" - Obi-Wan Kenobi volksy(at)yahoo(dot)com Go #43, #44, #45! R.I.P Adam, Kenny, Tony, and Dale... "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Fairly short and sweet: > 640x480 resolution, PO is about 120% in a race with a full field. I tried > higher resolutions, because I couldn't see the track very well. At 800x600, PO > is about 250%. At 1024x768, it's over 300%! Playing with the graphics > options, I couldn't get it any faster than about 23 FPS on the test, and really > didn't see any difference on the screen(quality-wise) DURING the test. Is that > the limit? Yes, I've installed the patch. > System:Athlon 1.3G, 128ram, Voodoo5, win98se. What makes it worse, I'll have > an acceptable frame rate during qualifying, but when the race starts, it sucks. > And, you can't change the graphics options once you've started the event. How > brain-dead is THAT??? > Still, I find it hard to believe that my system won't run this game any better > than this... > Help? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Here is the deal...this may not be gp3 specific because I never got it. But the V5 shipped with a Bug in the drivers. So of the four settings, the one listed as "fastest performance" wasn't. And the "single chip" option outperformed it. You are correct about 2xfsaa being slower and 4x even slower yet. But with the last few sets of drivers...I think from about November 2000 on...the "fastest performance" option did go quicker than "single chip". dave henrie "Ken Beard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:eFhc7.5001$[email hidden]... > I haven't messed with it lately, but I definitely recall that it runsFASTER > on the V5 with anti-aliasing ON than OFF. > > I've seen some alude to this in their posts but I don't think they've gotit > quite right. Some games only run on the V5 putting it in "single-chip" > mode, but for those that don't have this problem "normal" (both chips, no > AA) is the fastest, followed by 2x and then 4x FSAA. > > GP3 for some reason seems to actually use "single-chip" mode when you have > it set to "normal" - so it's only using half the power of the V5, hencethe > horrid framerates. But when you set the Anti-aliasing to 2x, which is > normally of course 10-20% slower than "normal" - GP3 gets MUCH better FPS. > Just go to the 3dfx icon in the taskbar, right click, bring up "3dfxHub" - > then "3dfx Anti Aliasing", and select "2 sample AA" for Direct3D. > > It seems that turning on 2x FSAA forces it to use both chips, so even with > the bit of speed loss with FSAA it runs much better than just on thesingle

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> chip - and looks better to boot. > > I recall getting 50% qualifying and sub-100% race PO ratings with most > everything on, 1024x768, on my old Athlon 700 / Voodoo5 - so it should > scream on the 1.3 Ghz. > > > -- > > Ken's Sig 3.2 > > "Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" > - Obi-Wan Kenobi > > volksy(at)yahoo(dot)com > > Go #43, #44, #45! > > R.I.P Adam, Kenny, Tony, and Dale... > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Fairly short and sweet: > > 640x480 resolution, PO is about 120% in a race with a full field. I

tried > > higher resolutions, because I couldn't see the track very well. At > 800x600, PO > > is about 250%. At 1024x768, it's over 300%! Playing with the graphics > > options, I couldn't get it any faster than about 23 FPS on the test, and > really > > didn't see any difference on the screen(quality-wise) DURING the test.Is

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> that > > the limit? Yes, I've installed the patch. > > System:Athlon 1.3G, 128ram, Voodoo5, win98se. What makes it worse, I'll > have > > an acceptable frame rate during qualifying, but when the race starts, it > sucks. > > And, you can't change the graphics options once you've started the

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> How > > brain-dead is THAT??? > > Still, I find it hard to believe that my system won't run this game any > better > > than this... > > > Help? > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > > >

In article <eFhc7.5001$[email hidden]>, "Ken Beard" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>GP3 for some reason seems to actually use "single-chip" mode when you have >it set to "normal" - so it's only using half the power of the V5, hence the >horrid framerates. But when you set the Anti-aliasing to 2x, which is >normally of course 10-20% slower than "normal" - GP3 gets MUCH better FPS. >Just go to the 3dfx icon in the taskbar, right click, bring up "3dfx Hub" - >then "3dfx Anti Aliasing", and select "2 sample AA" for Direct3D. > >It seems that turning on 2x FSAA forces it to use both chips, so even with >the bit of speed loss with FSAA it runs much better than just on the single >chip - and looks better to boot. > >I recall getting 50% qualifying and sub-100% race PO ratings with most >everything on, 1024x768, on my old Athlon 700 / Voodoo5 - so it should >scream on the 1.3 Ghz.

I'm starting to wonder if deleting and re-installing like I did with N4 will improve things. I'll try the 2x Fsaa first, though. Thanks. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (EldredP) writes: >>I recall getting 50% qualifying and sub-100% race PO ratings with most >>everything on, 1024x768, on my old Athlon 700 / Voodoo5 - so it should >>scream on the 1.3 Ghz. > >I'm starting to wonder if deleting and re-installing like I did with N4 will >improve things. I'll try the 2x Fsaa first, though. Thanks. Well, it's not sub-100% in a race, but it's about 120%(At Brazil). Sertainly better than the 300% that I got before. Problem is, I can't remember now what resolution I was running at. I had a friend come by yesterday while I was testing, so I didn't finish. :( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (EldredP) writes: > > >>I recall getting 50% qualifying and sub-100% race PO ratings with most > >>everything on, 1024x768, on my old Athlon 700 / Voodoo5 - so it should > >>scream on the 1.3 Ghz. > > > >I'm starting to wonder if deleting and re-installing like I did with N4

will > >improve things. I'll try the 2x Fsaa first, though. Thanks. > > Well, it's not sub-100% in a race, but it's about 120%(At Brazil).Sertainly > better than the 300% that I got before. Problem is, I can't remember nowwhat > resolution I was running at. I had a friend come by yesterday while I was > testing, so I didn't finish. :( > EP- Also, dont use automatic graphics.....set them manually.

In article <kMAc7.59595$[email hidden]>, "rik anthrax" <[email hidden]> writes: >EP- >Also, dont use automatic graphics.....set them manually. Really? Changing the graphics didn't help before I changed the FSAA, so I didn't try it after. Since it seemed better anyway, I let it go. Hmm... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (EldredP) writes: >Well, it's not sub-100% in a race, but it's about 120%(At Brazil). Sertainly "Sertainly"?!? One of those days...<sigh> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

lol@Eldred... I saw it but I thought you did it on purpose? hahaha "EldredP" wrote: | >Well, it's not sub-100% in a race, but it's about 120%(At Brazil).Sertainly | | "Sertainly"?!? One of those days...<sigh> | | Eldred | -- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

Son of a gun... I've been trying to sort this out for a couple of months. It is the 2xFSAA that did the trick. I thought I had tried that but I probably made a mistake in which rasterizer(?) the game was using. This time I switched 2xFSAA on in D3D Glide and GPL is now running like it did when I first got the card. Musta tried 2xFSAA first, eh? Then I realized it was slower and switched it off. Been driving me crazy. Also, Eldred, set your graphics to manual on the Advanced screen. If you need more juice, start by taking things out of your mirrors. I'm racing in the rain with a K6-III 450 at 800x600x70/140PO at most tracks. At 640x480 it's fluid. By way of possible interest: STCC2 also runs better with 2xFSAA on. As a work around I've been running the same GP3 on the same hardware from another instance of Win98SE that I have on a different drive. GP3 ran fine, (voodoo5 5500) until I found out that my old diamond Monster control panel was running in Display Properties. I edited out all reference to it in the registry and msconfig and yep! V5 slow down. Massive PO. I restored the old registry, got the Diamond Monster control panel back and GP3 ran fine once again. With the V5 set to Best Performance. GP3 and STCC2 are the only games that try to start my modem on the Diamond Monster drive. On this drive, the one I've turned 2xFSAA on to make them work, they do not try to start the modem. -- "Racing! - Science for the action minded." mark "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Fairly short and sweet: > 640x480 resolution, PO is about 120% in a race with a full field. I tried > higher resolutions, because I couldn't see the track very well. At 800x600, PO > is about 250%. At 1024x768, it's over 300%! Playing with the graphics > options, I couldn't get it any faster than about 23 FPS on the test, and really > didn't see any difference on the screen(quality-wise) DURING the test. Is that > the limit? Yes, I've installed the patch. > System:Athlon 1.3G, 128ram, Voodoo5, win98se. What makes it worse, I'll have > an acceptable frame rate during qualifying, but when the race starts, it sucks. > And, you can't change the graphics options once you've started the event. How > brain-dead is THAT??? > Still, I find it hard to believe that my system won't run this game any better > than this... :( > Help? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I hope this isn't redundant. I have horrible usenet service and get launched for months at a time. But in case it hasn't been said: STCC2 may run better on a VooDoo 5 5500 system if the graphics are set to 2xFSAA instead of Fastest Performance. It does run much better on my system with the (presumably) slower setting. Right click>Properties>Settings>Advanced>3DFx Anti-Aliasing. There is a drop down with several choices. I don't know whether STCC2 uses Glide or D3D so I did both. Much better frame rates. -- "Racing! - Science for the action minded." mark "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Fairly short and sweet: > 640x480 resolution, PO is about 120% in a race with a full field. I tried > higher resolutions, because I couldn't see the track very well. At 800x600, PO > is about 250%. At 1024x768, it's over 300%! Playing with the graphics > options, I couldn't get it any faster than about 23 FPS on the test, and really > didn't see any difference on the screen(quality-wise) DURING the test. Is that > the limit? Yes, I've installed the patch. > System:Athlon 1.3G, 128ram, Voodoo5, win98se. What makes it worse, I'll have > an acceptable frame rate during qualifying, but when the race starts, it sucks. > And, you can't change the graphics options once you've started the event. How > brain-dead is THAT??? > Still, I find it hard to believe that my system won't run this game any better > than this... :( > Help? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <k_3d7.16390$[email hidden]>, "mark jeangerard" <[email hidden]> writes: >Also, Eldred, set your >graphics to manual on the Advanced screen. If you need more juice, start by >taking things out of your mirrors. I'm racing in the rain with a K6-III 450 >at 800x600x70/140PO at most tracks. At 640x480 it's fluid. Yep, someone else suggested using manual settings for the graphics, too. I usually start with the mirrors anyway...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:19:28 -0600, "mark jeangerard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Right click>Properties>Settings>Advanced>3DFx Anti-Aliasing. There is a >drop down with several choices. I don't know whether STCC2 uses Glide or D3D >so I did both. > >Much better frame rates. It uses D3D.