N4 Multiplayer rantrantrantrantrantrant :)

It's a tradegy you get the morons. I mean, when it's clean it can be really something else! Alot of fun. I don't think it'll ever clean up. With a sim like GPL, it's no longer 'fresh' so the morons have no interest in it. It's simply raced by a core group of good clean racers. N4 is a fresh new sim (comparitively) and will continue to be as Papy release new versions every year - so the morons stay interested in runing the good guys fun :( Racecraft

Back in the N2 days, I was fed up with spending 3 hours trying different online races and maybe 1 was actually fun. I considered Monster Truck Madness my only real online driving entertainment because you didn't have to be clean. A few years later, GPL came along and I joined the Pro Racing Club. Since then I've never looked back. To avoid the morons online, join a league/club! You don't have to wait until the morons get bored :) In the PRC, as new sims come along we create another division. So far we have GPLPRC and SCPRC (Stock Cars). You bet when WSC comes out we'll have WSCPRC and we'll have fun racing from day 1 after it's release. http://www.proracingclub.com/ http://www.proracingclub.com/gplprc/index.htm http://www.proracingclub.com/nascar4/TNGS/ <- GPLPRC drivers made their own N4 series http://www.scprc.com <- N4 division of the PRC, accepts drivers that are clean. We split into Grand National and Cup series and it has worked well. Jason. Racecraft wrote:

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> > It's a tradegy you get the morons. I mean, when it's clean it can be really > something else! Alot of fun. > > I don't think it'll ever clean up. With a sim like GPL, it's no longer > 'fresh' so the morons have no interest in it. It's simply raced by a core > group of good clean racers. > > N4 is a fresh new sim (comparitively) and will continue to be as Papy > release new versions every year - so the morons stay interested in runing > the good guys fun :( > > Racecraft

-- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (GPL) http://www.scprc.com - Stock Car Racing Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run Sims) (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

It appears to be the case, as you have stated Racecraft.. Sad tho'.. "Racecraft" wrote: | It's a tradegy you get the morons. I mean, when it's clean it can bereally

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| something else! Alot of fun. | | I don't think it'll ever clean up. With a sim like GPL, it's no longer | 'fresh' so the morons have no interest in it. It's simply raced by a core | group of good clean racers. | | N4 is a fresh new sim (comparitively) and will continue to be as Papy | release new versions every year - so the morons stay interested in runing | the good guys fun :( | | Racecraft

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This is where I miss NROS the most. You know what I miss the most? The fact that when you did something GOOD in NROS, it COUNTED for something. Your wins were recorded. Your top 5's and 10's were recorded. Your Poles were recorded. EVERYTHING was recorded. Rankings seemed to mean a lot more too. You could step back, look over your stat's, and get a certain 'warm & fuzzy' feeling from your accomplishments. THAT is what is missing in N4 online. Sure, it tracks _some_ things, but very little. No win, pole, top 5 or top 10 tracking. You do good? There's nothing to show for it. You do bad? There's ALSO nothing to show for it. With NROS, you felt like you were really part of system that cared about how you did, and it made YOU care about how you did. Well, most of us anyway :) Until the current N4 system is updated to provide this feeling of accomplishment (and responsibility), then I don't think it will ever get any better than it is. Now, I'm sure someone will ring in with the usual "Join a League and shut up!". Well, if you have a normal enough schedule to be able to do this, I envy you. But, when your days last any where from 8 hours to 16 hours a day (the IT business CAN be a bitch), you can't shackle yourself to a fixed League schedule. With NROS, I could log on and find pretty good racing, with a familiar crowd of folks I trusted, almost any day, 24 hours a day. I would go back to a PAID system in a heartbeat if it provided the same features, tracking, and sense of accomplishment that NROS provided. -Larry "Jason Monds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Back in the N2 days, I was fed up with spending 3 hours trying different > online races and maybe 1 was actually fun. I considered Monster Truck > Madness my only real online driving entertainment because you didn't > have to be clean. A few years later, GPL came along and I joined the > Pro Racing Club. Since then I've never looked back. > > To avoid the morons online, join a league/club! You don't have to wait > until the morons get bored :) > > In the PRC, as new sims come along we create another division. So far > we have GPLPRC and SCPRC (Stock Cars). You bet when WSC comes out we'll > have WSCPRC and we'll have fun racing from day 1 after it's release. > > http://www.proracingclub.com/ > http://www.proracingclub.com/gplprc/index.htm > http://www.proracingclub.com/nascar4/TNGS/ <- GPLPRC drivers made their > own N4 series > http://www.scprc.com <- N4 division of the PRC, accepts drivers that > are clean. We split into Grand National and Cup series and it has > worked well. > > Jason. > > Racecraft wrote: > > > > It's a tradegy you get the morons. I mean, when it's clean it can be

really > > something else! Alot of fun. > > > > I don't think it'll ever clean up. With a sim like GPL, it's no longer > > 'fresh' so the morons have no interest in it. It's simply raced by acore > > group of good clean racers. > > > > N4 is a fresh new sim (comparitively) and will continue to be as Papy > > release new versions every year - so the morons stay interested inruning

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> > the good guys fun :( > > > > Racecraft > > -- > Jason Monds > http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (GPL) > http://www.scprc.com - Stock Car Racing Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun > Run Sims) > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

What's the use in recording it, if there is a wanker waiting behind every turn trying to take you out. Would be more like survival-of-the-fittest-stats. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:diwf7.135802$[email hidden]... > This is where I miss NROS the most. > > You know what I miss the most? The fact that when you did something GOODin > NROS, it COUNTED for something. Your wins were recorded. Your top 5'sand > 10's were recorded. Your Poles were recorded. EVERYTHING was recorded. > Rankings seemed to mean a lot more too. > > You could step back, look over your stat's, and get a certain 'warm &fuzzy'

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> feeling from your accomplishments. > > THAT is what is missing in N4 online. Sure, it tracks _some_ things, but > very little. No win, pole, top 5 or top 10 tracking. > > You do good? There's nothing to show for it. You do bad? There's ALSO > nothing to show for it. > > With NROS, you felt like you were really part of system that cared about

how > you did, and it made YOU care about how you did. Well, most of us anyway:) > > Until the current N4 system is updated to provide this feeling of > accomplishment (and responsibility), then I don't think it will ever getany > better than it is. > > Now, I'm sure someone will ring in with the usual "Join a League and shut > up!". Well, if you have a normal enough schedule to be able to do this, I > envy you. But, when your days last any where from 8 hours to 16 hours aday > (the IT business CAN be a bitch), you can't shackle yourself to a fixed > League schedule. > > With NROS, I could log on and find pretty good racing, with a familiarcrowd

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> of folks I trusted, almost any day, 24 hours a day. > > I would go back to a PAID system in a heartbeat if it provided the same > features, tracking, and sense of accomplishment that NROS provided. > > -Larry > > "Jason Monds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Back in the N2 days, I was fed up with spending 3 hours trying different > > online races and maybe 1 was actually fun. I considered Monster Truck > > Madness my only real online driving entertainment because you didn't > > have to be clean. A few years later, GPL came along and I joined the > > Pro Racing Club. Since then I've never looked back. > > > > To avoid the morons online, join a league/club! You don't have to wait > > until the morons get bored :) > > > > In the PRC, as new sims come along we create another division. So far > > we have GPLPRC and SCPRC (Stock Cars). You bet when WSC comes out we'll > > have WSCPRC and we'll have fun racing from day 1 after it's release. > > > > http://www.proracingclub.com/ > > http://www.proracingclub.com/gplprc/index.htm > > http://www.proracingclub.com/nascar4/TNGS/ <- GPLPRC drivers made their > > own N4 series > > http://www.scprc.com <- N4 division of the PRC, accepts drivers that > > are clean. We split into Grand National and Cup series and it has > > worked well. > > > > Jason. > > > > Racecraft wrote: > > > > > > It's a tradegy you get the morons. I mean, when it's clean it can be > really > > > something else! Alot of fun. > > > > > > I don't think it'll ever clean up. With a sim like GPL, it's no longer > > > 'fresh' so the morons have no interest in it. It's simply raced by a > core > > > group of good clean racers. > > > > > > N4 is a fresh new sim (comparitively) and will continue to be as Papy > > > release new versions every year - so the morons stay interested in > runing > > > the good guys fun :( > > > > > > Racecraft > > > > -- > > Jason Monds > > http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (GPL) > > http://www.scprc.com - Stock Car Racing Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun > > Run Sims) > > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying) > >

Man, did you miss the whole point or what ? -Larry "Lister Storm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9lmkpk$rg$[email hidden]...

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> What's the use in recording it, if there is a wanker waiting behind every > turn trying to take you out. Would be more like > survival-of-the-fittest-stats. > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:diwf7.135802$[email hidden]... > > This is where I miss NROS the most. > > > > You know what I miss the most? The fact that when you did something

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> in > > NROS, it COUNTED for something. Your wins were recorded. Your top 5's > and > > 10's were recorded. Your Poles were recorded. EVERYTHING was recorded. > > Rankings seemed to mean a lot more too. > > > > You could step back, look over your stat's, and get a certain 'warm & > fuzzy' > > feeling from your accomplishments. > > > > THAT is what is missing in N4 online. Sure, it tracks _some_ things,

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> > very little. No win, pole, top 5 or top 10 tracking. > > > > You do good? There's nothing to show for it. You do bad? There's ALSO > > nothing to show for it. > > > > With NROS, you felt like you were really part of system that cared about > how > > you did, and it made YOU care about how you did. Well, most of us

anyway

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> :) > > > > Until the current N4 system is updated to provide this feeling of > > accomplishment (and responsibility), then I don't think it will ever get > any > > better than it is. > > > > Now, I'm sure someone will ring in with the usual "Join a League and

shut > > up!". Well, if you have a normal enough schedule to be able to do this,I

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> > envy you. But, when your days last any where from 8 hours to 16 hours a > day > > (the IT business CAN be a bitch), you can't shackle yourself to a fixed > > League schedule. > > > > With NROS, I could log on and find pretty good racing, with a familiar > crowd > > of folks I trusted, almost any day, 24 hours a day. > > > > I would go back to a PAID system in a heartbeat if it provided the same > > features, tracking, and sense of accomplishment that NROS provided. > > > > -Larry > > > > "Jason Monds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Back in the N2 days, I was fed up with spending 3 hours trying

different > > > online races and maybe 1 was actually fun. I considered Monster Truck > > > Madness my only real online driving entertainment because you didn't > > > have to be clean. A few years later, GPL came along and I joined the > > > Pro Racing Club. Since then I've never looked back. > > > > > > To avoid the morons online, join a league/club! You don't have towait > > > until the morons get bored :) > > > > > > In the PRC, as new sims come along we create another division. So far > > > we have GPLPRC and SCPRC (Stock Cars). You bet when WSC comes outwe'll > > > have WSCPRC and we'll have fun racing from day 1 after it's release. > > > > > > http://www.proracingclub.com/ > > > http://www.proracingclub.com/gplprc/index.htm > > > http://www.proracingclub.com/nascar4/TNGS/ <- GPLPRC drivers madetheir

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> > > own N4 series > > > http://www.scprc.com <- N4 division of the PRC, accepts drivers that > > > are clean. We split into Grand National and Cup series and it has > > > worked well. > > > > > > Jason. > > > > > > Racecraft wrote: > > > > > > > > It's a tradegy you get the morons. I mean, when it's clean it can be > > really > > > > something else! Alot of fun. > > > > > > > > I don't think it'll ever clean up. With a sim like GPL, it's no

longer > > > > 'fresh' so the morons have no interest in it. It's simply raced by a > > core > > > > group of good clean racers. > > > > > > > > N4 is a fresh new sim (comparitively) and will continue to be asPapy

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> > > > release new versions every year - so the morons stay interested in > > runing > > > > the good guys fun :( > > > > > > > > Racecraft > > > > > > -- > > > Jason Monds > > > http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (GPL) > > > http://www.scprc.com - Stock Car Racing Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun > > > Run Sims) > > > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying) > > > > > >