Anyone know what Papy are up to at the moment. I hope that they are not in
the process of writing Nascar 5 'cos its all got a bit samey recently.
GPL was a great departure for them and I wish they'd do some more (we didn't
get Nascar Legends in the UK for some reason).
What I'd really like is to be able to race the latest CART or IRL cars.
CART would be more difficult for them 'cos they'd have to recreate alot of
new road course tracks for the sim, but surely an updated Nascar 4 engine
and a bit of physics modelling would recreate a pretty good IRL sim?
James
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>Anyone know what Papy are up to at the moment. I hope that they are not in >the process of writing Nascar 5 'cos its all got a bit samey recently. > >GPL was a great departure for them and I wish they'd do some more (we didn't >get Nascar Legends in the UK for some reason). > >What I'd really like is to be able to race the latest CART or IRL cars. >CART would be more difficult for them 'cos they'd have to recreate alot of >new road course tracks for the sim, but surely an updated Nascar 4 engine >and a bit of physics modelling would recreate a pretty good IRL sim? > >JamesActually they have already done most of the tracks for the Indy/CART sim
they did about three years ago, so it would probably just be a matter of
updating them with more detail and higher res textures.
"james" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Anyone know what Papy are up to at the moment. I hope that they arenot in
> the process of writing Nascar 5 'cos its all got a bit samey recently.
>
> GPL was a great departure for them and I wish they'd do some more (wedidn't
> get Nascar Legends in the UK for some reason).
>
> What I'd really like is to be able to race the latest CART or IRLcars.
> CART would be more difficult for them 'cos they'd have to recreatealot of
> new road course tracks for the sim, but surely an updated Nascar 4engine
> and a bit of physics modelling would recreate a pretty good IRL sim?
>
> James
>
>
Not that easy... ICR2 track format is quite different (not really 3D, IIRC)
to that used for the current engine. Also, that game was based on the 95 (I
think??) season and a lot of tracks have been changed/added in these 6
years.
Jan.
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"Haqsau" wrote...
> Actually they have already done most of the tracks for
> the Indy/CART sim they did about three years ago, so it
> would probably just be a matter of updating them with
> more detail and higher res textures.<snip>
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes:
But remember that Papy said they would make a CART sim in 99. You
never know what they got on their sweet little harddisks. :)
How come they used so long time to make N4 ? Definately not the
tracks. Remember N4 was supposed to be released two years ago as N3.
Olav
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> "Haqsau" wrote... > > Actually they have already done most of the tracks for > > the Indy/CART sim they did about three years ago, so it > > would probably just be a matter of updating them with > > more detail and higher res textures. > <snip> > > Not that easy... ICR2 track format is quite different (not really 3D, IIRC) > to that used for the current engine. Also, that game was based on the 95 (I > think??) season and a lot of tracks have been changed/added in these 6 > years.Its gotta be CART. IRL is just openwheel NASCAR, and that would also get a
bit samey. I enjoy close racing that you get in nascar, but providing
another basically oval only sim would be a waste of their time. A CART sim
would be HUUGE!
Luke
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> Anyone know what Papy are up to at the moment. I hope that they are notin
> the process of writing Nascar 5 'cos its all got a bit samey recently.
>
> GPL was a great departure for them and I wish they'd do some more (wedidn't
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> get Nascar Legends in the UK for some reason). > > What I'd really like is to be able to race the latest CART or IRL cars. > CART would be more difficult for them 'cos they'd have to recreate alot of > new road course tracks for the sim, but surely an updated Nascar 4 engine > and a bit of physics modelling would recreate a pretty good IRL sim? > > James > >LOL always reliable man.
BTW, I agree totally :)
Rafe Mc
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> > >WE NEED A NEW CART SIM PAPY!!!!! > >PLEASE?!?!?! > >CART CART CART CART SIM !!!!Just finished watching Mid Ohio (shame about Franchitti). It'd be great to
have all those road courses to race in a CART sim. I think Olav's right
about the IRL/Nascar comparison. We definitely need a CART sim - the cars
are great, its ultra competitive (no-one seems to be dominant) and the range
of circuits is brilliant - superspeedways, tri-ovals, small ovals,street
circuits and road circuits. Its also posssible to overtake in them too (I
love GP3, but its very unrealistic 'cos I can overtake other cars on the
track instead of just in the pits!!).
James
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> > new road course tracks for the sim, but surely an updated Nascar 4engine
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> Its gotta be CART. IRL is just openwheel NASCAR, and that would also get a > bit samey. I enjoy close racing that you get in nascar, but providing > another basically oval only sim would be a waste of their time. A CART sim > would be HUUGE! > > Luke > -=87=- > > james <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9l318g$eu9$[email hidden]... > > Anyone know what Papy are up to at the moment. I hope that they are not > in > > the process of writing Nascar 5 'cos its all got a bit samey recently. > > > > GPL was a great departure for them and I wish they'd do some more (we > didn't > > get Nascar Legends in the UK for some reason). > > > > What I'd really like is to be able to race the latest CART or IRL cars. > > CART would be more difficult for them 'cos they'd have to recreate alotQuoted text (7 lines)
> > and a bit of physics modelling would recreate a pretty good IRL sim? > > > > James > > > > > > See the CART Heat
http://cartheat.bhmotorsports.com/
and the CART 2K patches(f1cs2k)
should be a link at bhmotorsports.com
Both have folks who can create/edit tracks. We will be seeing some of
those shortly.
And.... the ICR2 patch for N3 is comming along nicely. they have an
online league forming with some tweeks that get IRL speeds outta N3 with F1
braking and CART tire grip. This uses many of the Old ICR2 tracks like Mid
Ohio, Road America etc...but remember, it really is just N3 with new shapes
& tweeks, and the ICR2 tracks are hopelessly out of date....but if thats
all we gots...I'll take it.
http://cirrus.spaceports.com/~dtech/n3/ic4n3/ic4n3.htm
"james" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Just finished watching Mid Ohio (shame about Franchitti). It'd be greatto
> have all those road courses to race in a CART sim. I think Olav's right
> about the IRL/Nascar comparison. We definitely need a CART sim - the cars
> are great, its ultra competitive (no-one seems to be dominant) and therange
a
> > bit samey. I enjoy close racing that you get in nascar, but providing
> > another basically oval only sim would be a waste of their time. A CARTsim
not
cars.
> > > CART would be more difficult for them 'cos they'd have to recreatealot
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> of circuits is brilliant - superspeedways, tri-ovals, small ovals,street > circuits and road circuits. Its also posssible to overtake in them too (I > love GP3, but its very unrealistic 'cos I can overtake other cars on the > track instead of just in the pits!!). > > James > > "Luke Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3b766c2f$0$20905$[email hidden]... > > Its gotta be CART. IRL is just openwheel NASCAR, and that would also getQuoted text (8 lines)
> > would be HUUGE! > > > > Luke > > -=87=- > > > > james <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9l318g$eu9$[email hidden]... > > > Anyone know what Papy are up to at the moment. I hope that they areQuoted text (8 lines)
> > in > > > the process of writing Nascar 5 'cos its all got a bit samey recently. > > > > > > GPL was a great departure for them and I wish they'd do some more (we > > didn't > > > get Nascar Legends in the UK for some reason). > > > > > > What I'd really like is to be able to race the latest CART or IRLQuoted text (12 lines)
> of > > > new road course tracks for the sim, but surely an updated Nascar 4 > engine > > > and a bit of physics modelling would recreate a pretty good IRL sim? > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > > > See the CART Heat
http://cartheat.bhmotorsports.com/
and the CART 2K patches(f1cs2k)
should be a link at bhmotorsports.com
Both have folks who can create/edit tracks. We will be seeing some of
those shortly.
And.... the ICR2 patch for N3 is comming along nicely. they have an
online league forming with some tweeks that get IRL speeds outta N3 with F1
braking and CART tire grip. This uses many of the Old ICR2 tracks like Mid
Ohio, Road America etc...but remember, it really is just N3 with new shapes
& tweeks, and the ICR2 tracks are hopelessly out of date....but if thats
all we gots...I'll take it.
http://cirrus.spaceports.com/~dtech/n3/ic4n3/ic4n3.htm
"james" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Just finished watching Mid Ohio (shame about Franchitti). It'd be greatto
> have all those road courses to race in a CART sim. I think Olav's right
> about the IRL/Nascar comparison. We definitely need a CART sim - the cars
> are great, its ultra competitive (no-one seems to be dominant) and therange
a
> > bit samey. I enjoy close racing that you get in nascar, but providing
> > another basically oval only sim would be a waste of their time. A CARTsim
not
cars.
> > > CART would be more difficult for them 'cos they'd have to recreatealot
