Where the hell is the F1RC patch?

I would love to keep posting this every couple of months, but I guess the real patch (F1RC2) will be out by then. Marc -- **************************************************************************** Marc Collins [email hidden] Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? ****************************************************************************

It realy is beond a joke, ok maybe to improve the AI would proably be a major undertakeing and wouldn't be worth the cost but they should be at least fix the problems like having to run Killhelp.exe after playing F1RC if you have DX8+ to properly shut down DirectX. As Ian Brown one said "Amateurs! Amateurs!" Alex "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NYxd7.3233$[email hidden]...

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> I would love to keep posting this every couple of months, but I guess the > real patch (F1RC2) will be out by then. > > Marc > > -- >

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Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get the first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember, nobody twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place. dave henrie "GBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:k2zd7.19342$[email hidden]... > It realy is beond a joke, ok maybe to improve the AI would proably be a > major undertakeing and wouldn't be worth the cost but they should be at > least fix the problems like having to run Killhelp.exe after playing F1RCif

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> you have DX8+ to properly shut down DirectX. > > As Ian Brown one said "Amateurs! Amateurs!" > > Alex > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:NYxd7.3233$[email hidden]... > > I would love to keep posting this every couple of months, but I guess

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> > real patch (F1RC2) will be out by then. > > > > Marc > > > > -- > > >

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That's what I was saying improving the AI would take a long time but they should at least patch the game so it properly exits from DirectX, any reasonable programer with a knowlage of the DirectX SDK and the games sorce code could probably fix it in 5 minutes. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9OCd7.7840$[email hidden]... > Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get the > first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember,nobody

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> twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place. > dave henrie > "GBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:k2zd7.19342$[email hidden]... > > It realy is beond a joke, ok maybe to improve the AI would proably be a > > major undertakeing and wouldn't be worth the cost but they should be at > > least fix the problems like having to run Killhelp.exe after playing

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> if > > you have DX8+ to properly shut down DirectX. > > > > As Ian Brown one said "Amateurs! Amateurs!" > > > > Alex > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:NYxd7.3233$[email hidden]... > > > I would love to keep posting this every couple of months, but I guess > the > > > real patch (F1RC2) will be out by then. > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > -- > > > > > >

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1/2 finished.. touche` :) "Dave Henrie"wrote: | Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get the | first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember,nobody | twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place. | dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

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>"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:9OCd7.7840$[email hidden]... >> Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get the >> first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember, >nobody >> twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place. >> dave henrie

No, but Ubisoft did lie to us and say there would be a patch released in April. I'm sure many people bought the sim based on that promise. I didn't because I figured they were bullshitting right from the start. Damn frenchies.

The patch is in your mouth....it's sorta like "I promise not to come in the mail"... 8^) J. P. Hovercraft --------------- Marc Collins wrote:

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> I would love to keep posting this every couple of months, but I guess the > real patch (F1RC2) will be out by then. > > Marc > > -- > **************************************************************************** > Marc Collins > [email hidden] > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > to take effect. Reboot now? > ****************************************************************************

Good point, Dave, but remember, Hasbro and MGI *gave* us a patch for the AI for free -- they didn't package it and sell it to us as a retail "NASCAR Heat 2" product. Plus, look at everything else that the MGI people have given us in terms of mod tools and such. They REALLY care about their customers. Ubisoft, on the other hand, sends threatening legal notices to Websites working on third-party add-ons for F1RC. Quite a contrast there . . . ;-) -- JB (ducking and running) On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:45:41 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get the >first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember, nobody >twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place. >dave henrie >"GBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:k2zd7.19342$[email hidden]... >> It realy is beond a joke, ok maybe to improve the AI would proably be a >> major undertakeing and wouldn't be worth the cost but they should be at >> least fix the problems like having to run Killhelp.exe after playing F1RC >if >> you have DX8+ to properly shut down DirectX. >> >> As Ian Brown one said "Amateurs! Amateurs!" >> >> Alex >> "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:NYxd7.3233$[email hidden]... >> > I would love to keep posting this every couple of months, but I guess >the >> > real patch (F1RC2) will be out by then. >> > >> > Marc >> > >> > -- >> > >> >**************************************************************************** >> > Marc Collins >> > [email hidden] >> > >> > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change >> > to take effect. Reboot now? >> > >> >**************************************************************************** >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >

The situation with the patch is very disappointing. However, your point about Ubisoft is unfair. Throughout Pod, F1RS, and MGPRS2 Ubi had excellent support, and the thing about threatening legal action and third party addons was directed only at one site that was affiliated to them. Iain "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Good point, Dave, but remember, Hasbro and MGI *gave* us a patch for > the AI for free -- they didn't package it and sell it to us as a > retail "NASCAR Heat 2" product. Plus, look at everything else that > the MGI people have given us in terms of mod tools and such. They > REALLY care about their customers. > > Ubisoft, on the other hand, sends threatening legal notices to > Websites working on third-party add-ons for F1RC. > > Quite a contrast there . . . > > ;-) > > -- JB (ducking and running) > > On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:45:41 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get the > >first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember,

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> >twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place. > >dave henrie > >"GBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:k2zd7.19342$[email hidden]... > >> It realy is beond a joke, ok maybe to improve the AI would proably be a > >> major undertakeing and wouldn't be worth the cost but they should be at > >> least fix the problems like having to run Killhelp.exe after playing

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> >if > >> you have DX8+ to properly shut down DirectX. > >> > >> As Ian Brown one said "Amateurs! Amateurs!" > >> > >> Alex > >> "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:NYxd7.3233$[email hidden]... > >> > I would love to keep posting this every couple of months, but I guess > >the > >> > real patch (F1RC2) will be out by then. > >> > > >> > Marc > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > >***************************************************************************

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>As Ian Brown one said "Amateurs! Amateurs!" lol, monkeyman taking on Ubisoft is something I'd like to see :-) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash (Long Live the Roses!)

Yea!! Where the **hell** is the F1RC patch? :) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

Unfortunately for me, I am not as good at detecting bullshit as you. I bought it based on the promise of the patch...kept waiting...and of course now it is too late to return it. Marc. "0x4E0x6F0x73" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > >"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:9OCd7.7840$[email hidden]... > >> Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get the > >> first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember, > >nobody > >> twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place. > >> dave henrie > > No, but Ubisoft did lie to us and say there would be a patch released > in April. I'm sure many people bought the sim based on that promise. I > didn't because I figured they were bullshitting right from the start. > Damn frenchies. >

I can't detect bs any better than the next guy...what I do know is....Soda was released with a 3dfx patch already in the works and due anyday....Red Baron 2 had 3d, then it didn't, then it did, then it got cancelled, then it got restarted and 3d added. Then they patched the whole schmozle and renamed it slightly. I could go on, but the point is...never buy something based on the premise that it will be added later. The last title I can remember that actually added something was ICR1 getting the modem to modem multiplayer working(even tho the sticker on the box said it worked right out of the box)..about 5 or 6 months after it was released. Other companies...like the Age of Empire series...have promised free patches...then instead....released an addon disk.. When GP3 came out, it seemed unfinised, I advised folks to wait for the updates. When F12k came out...serious issues...I advised folks to wait again...now F1RC is in a holding pattern. Who knows when the issues will get resolved. But I would NEVER buy something based on the PROMISE that they will fix it. If there are issues that prevent you from enjoying the title either wait for the patch or learn to live with the problems. I bought N4 early, hoping to get a headstart on other users...but the initial AI problems AND my fast cpu motherboard crashing...have kept me from playing N4. I should have taken my own advice :) It's not easy waiting when everyone is raving about this cool feature or that jazzy item. As time goes by, the chance of a patch being released becomes less and less and the reality will be, if you want the fixes, you'll have to buy the update disk...(F1RCcs2001 anyone?) dave henrie "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:olle7.18817$[email hidden]...

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> Unfortunately for me, I am not as good at detecting bullshit as you. I > bought it based on the promise of the patch...kept waiting...and of course > now it is too late to return it. > > Marc. > > "0x4E0x6F0x73" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > >"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >news:9OCd7.7840$[email hidden]... > > >> Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get

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> > >> first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember, > > >nobody > > >> twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place. > > >> dave henrie > > > > No, but Ubisoft did lie to us and say there would be a patch released > > in April. I'm sure many people bought the sim based on that promise. I > > didn't because I figured they were bullshitting right from the start. > > Damn frenchies. > > > >

It is out yet Dave H?? "Dave Henrie" wrote: | (F1RCcs2001 anyone?) | dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

You need to download BS Filter v3.2. There's a trial version at http://www.bsfilter.com or the full program is $39.95. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UYne7.18909$[email hidden]... > I can't detect bs any better than the next guy...

Simon Brown wrote: > > You need to download BS Filter v3.2. There's a trial version at > http://www.bsfilter.com or the full program is $39.95. Bad URL. :-P -- Fester

I got that eons ago...imho the older versions were better, but....since using it here...the dang thing crashed and won't restart.......:( dave Henrie "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Simon Brown wrote: > > > > You need to download BS Filter v3.2. There's a trial version at > > http://www.bsfilter.com or the full program is $39.95. > > > Bad URL. :-P > > -- > > Fester

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:46:02 GMT, Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >Simon Brown wrote: >> >> You need to download BS Filter v3.2. There's a trial version at >> http://www.bsfilter.com or the full program is $39.95. > > >Bad URL. :-P

He was bullshitting you! Andre

I get this problem too, nothing else will run after F1RC until i've reset the PC. Will killhelp.exe fix this? I'd much rather run that than reset the PC. You're right about DX shutdown code, it is amateurish that they couldn't write working code. "GBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lWEd7.6261$[email hidden]... > That's what I was saying improving the AI would take a long time but they > should at least patch the game so it properly exits from DirectX, any > reasonable programer with a knowlage of the DirectX SDK and the gamessorce > code could probably fix it in 5 minutes. >

Andre Warringa wrote:

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> > On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:46:02 GMT, Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > > >Simon Brown wrote: > >> > >> You need to download BS Filter v3.2. There's a trial version at > >> http://www.bsfilter.com or the full program is $39.95. > > > > > >Bad URL. :-P > > He was bullshitting you!

Couldn't tell. Hadn't been able to find/install the BS Filter. <g> -- Fester

twas a joke :) > > Bad URL. :-P > > -- > > Fester

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:06:29 -0400, 0x4E0x6F0x73 <[email hidden]> wrote: >I'm sure many people bought the sim based on that promise. i'm one of those idiots. i cannot believe they've published a piece of @#$*(@ software that won't run on the most mundane of computers. isn't this the 21st century. shouldn't software be getting *better*?? grrr....