GP3 Steering Problem

I have problems with my steering in Gp3. Have tried different steering wheels and i allways get sudden (unwanted) movements witch makes driving really difficult. I happens one or two times a lap approximately. It make the car jump to either side. I doesnt seems to matter how much graphics i turn on/off or on the framerate. Anoyone got any clue to this. /Magnus

On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:34:13 GMT, "Magnus Lundin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I have problems with my steering in Gp3. Have tried different steering >wheels and i allways get sudden (unwanted) movements witch makes driving[snip] >Anoyone got any clue to this. If you've got Polling turned on in the Joystick app (See Windows Control Panel) then turn it off. It worked for me. -- Kulvinder Singh Matharu E-mail : ksmatharu # ieee . org [without the spaces and where #=@] Website: http://www.matharu.demon.co.uk/ "The Code Red hype Hall of Shame" http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/20908.html

nope! sorry. Just to pin down a few details for others who can hopefully help out.... does the sudden movement happen in the same place each time? Does it occur at all the tracks? Force Feedback I'm assuming...What is your main wheel make? and finally to cover all the bases...have you installed the official patch, and any 3rd party patches? good luck dave henrie "Magnus Lundin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pBvd7.10345$[email hidden]...

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> I have problems with my steering in Gp3. Have tried different steering > wheels and i allways get sudden (unwanted) movements witch makes driving > really difficult. I happens one or two times a lap approximately. It make > the car jump to either side. > > I doesnt seems to matter how much graphics i turn on/off or on the > framerate. > > Anoyone got any clue to this. > > /Magnus > >

Kulvinder Or Anyone, Quick comment/question. My polling has always been on via my Guillemot usb j/s & wheel. I have never had any problems. What is the polling suppuse to do? It may sound dumb but I just never paid any attention to it?.. Tia.. -Thom_j. "Kulvinder Singh Matharu" wrote: | If you've got Polling turned on in the Joystick app (See Windows | Control Panel) then turn it off. It worked for me. | -- | Kulvinder Singh Matharu --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 7/18/2001

Hi, Can't be certain what's wrong but, you did mention trying several different wheels. Surely then it has nothing to do with the wheels themselves, and more to do with either GP3 or whatever your wheel is connected to? (Soundcard or USB). I have a Guillemot TM Ferrari FF wheel, and I have no problems with GP3, and I do use FF with it. I connect my wheel via the USB port. In fact, this wheel works beautifully with GP3 and all other driving games I own, SCGT, GPL (and tons more!). Hope someone can figure it out for you. Regards, Mad Max :O) "Magnus Lundin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pBvd7.10345$[email hidden]...

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> I have problems with my steering in Gp3. Have tried different steering > wheels and i allways get sudden (unwanted) movements witch makes driving > really difficult. I happens one or two times a lap approximately. It make > the car jump to either side. > > I doesnt seems to matter how much graphics i turn on/off or on the > framerate. > > Anoyone got any clue to this. > > /Magnus > >

On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:41:36 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote: >Kulvinder Or Anyone, >Quick comment/question. My polling has always been on via my >Guillemot usb j/s & wheel. I have never had any problems. What >is the polling suppuse to do? It may sound dumb but I just never >paid any attention to it?.. Tia.. -Thom_j. You know, I'm not sure what that polling thing is for. But I do know that when I deselected it that I no longer had the steering suddenly jerking now and again. It was such a relieve getting rid of it...I suffered from it for a long time not realising how easy it was to cure. Perhaps it only happens for certain hardware combinations? -- Kulvinder Singh Matharu E-mail : ksmatharu # ieee . org [without the spaces and where #=@] Website: http://www.matharu.demon.co.uk/ "The Code Red hype Hall of Shame" http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/20908.html

Fair enuff Kulvinder.. Anyone else care to explain about my query below? Tia.. -Thom_j. "Kulvinder Singh Matharu" wrote:

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| You know, I'm not sure what that polling thing is for. But I do know | that when I deselected it that I no longer had the steering suddenly | jerking now and again. It was such a relieve getting rid of it...I | suffered from it for a long time not realising how easy it was to | cure. | | Perhaps it only happens for certain hardware combinations? | | -- | Kulvinder Singh Matharu

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| | >Kulvinder Or Anyone, | >Quick comment/question. My polling has always been on via my | >Guillemot usb j/s & wheel. I have never had any problems. What | >is the polling suppuse to do? It may sound dumb but I just never | >paid any attention to it?.. Tia.. -Thom_j. |

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"Magnus Lundin" <[email hidden]> writes: > I have problems with my steering in Gp3. Have tried different steering > wheels and i allways get sudden (unwanted) movements witch makes driving > really difficult. I happens one or two times a lap approximately. It make > the car jump to either side. that happens with me too, but it's never ocurred during braking or turning, so I never really needed to look further into it. still, you're not alone. > Anoyone got any clue to this. not me. -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 to err is human -- to forgive is bovine.

"Thom j." wrote... > Kulvinder Or Anyone, > Quick comment/question. My polling has always been on via my > Guillemot usb j/s & wheel. I have never had any problems. What > is the polling suppuse to do? It may sound dumb but I just never > paid any attention to it?.. Tia.. -Thom_j. It's "Poll with interrupts enabled" which means that interrupts (e.g. the timer) are allowed while the joystick device driver is checking (polling) the joystick input. I don't know exactly what this does on a modern PC (the original game cards used to work out the input voltage by timing how long a capacitor took to discharge, so throwing in a few hundred extra cycles would cause havoc) but an occasional lump of processing in the middle of calculating the joystick position presumably still messes things up. Thanks for the tip, Kulvinder, I have just started playing GP3 again and was having the same problem, the car weaving madly at speed. OK, next question. Why would you want interrupts enabled while polling? -- Tony Whitley GPLRank -0.54 MonsterRank 407 and falling... "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix. > "Kulvinder Singh Matharu" wrote: > | If you've got Polling turned on in the Joystick app (See Windows > | Control Panel) then turn it off. It worked for me. > | -- > | Kulvinder Singh Matharu

"Tony Whitley > OK, next question. Why would you want interrupts enabled while polling? Wasn't the 'reason' for the poll with interupts was because joysticks were soooo crappy and windows joystick code was soooo bad that you couldn't maintain calibration and control? It was a stop-gap fix that has been left in afaik dave henrie

Thanx for the info Tony and yes: "Why would you want interrupts enabled while polling?" btw: mine is, I run usb & it works just fine. odd...eh?... :) "Tony Whitley" wrote: | | It's "Poll with interrupts enabled" which means that interrupts (e.g. the | timer) are allowed while the joystick device driver is checking (polling) | the joystick input. I don't know exactly what this does on a modern PC(the | original game cards used to work out the input voltage by timing how longa | capacitor took to discharge, so throwing in a few hundred extra cycleswould | cause havoc) but an occasional lump of processing in the middle of | calculating the joystick position presumably still messes things up. | | Thanks for the tip, Kulvinder, I have just started playing GP3 again andwas

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| having the same problem, the car weaving madly at speed. | | OK, next question. Why would you want interrupts enabled while polling? | | -- | | Tony Whitley | GPLRank -0.54 | MonsterRank 407 and falling... | "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss,

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| gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand | Prix. | | "Thom j." wrote... | > Kulvinder Or Anyone, | > Quick comment/question. My polling has always been on via my | > Guillemot usb j/s & wheel. I have never had any problems. What | > is the polling suppuse to do? It may sound dumb but I just never | > paid any attention to it?.. Tia.. -Thom_j. | > "Kulvinder Singh Matharu" wrote:

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"Thom j." wrote... > Thanx for the info Tony and yes: "Why would you want interrupts > enabled while polling?" btw: mine is, I run usb & it works just fine. > odd...eh?... :)Very. I have a USB LWFF and it had the problem. Explain that! -- Tony Whitley GPLRank -0.54 MonsterRank 407 and falling... "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

I cant cuz I dont have a clue what the "poll interupt" really does in detail but I get the basic idea, I think?..lol "Tony Whitley" wrote:

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| Very. I have a USB LWFF and it had the problem. Explain that! | | -- | | Tony Whitley | GPLRank -0.54 | MonsterRank 407 and falling... | "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss,

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| gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand | Prix. | "Thom j." wrote... | > Thanx for the info Tony and yes: "Why would you want interrupts | > enabled while polling?" btw: mine is, I run usb & it works just fine. | > odd...eh?... :)

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Tony Whitley wrote: > OK, next question. Why would you want interrupts enabled while polling? There is an extra potential interaction between the joystick, this setting, and playing online. (So try it online an off. If you get undesireable network behavior, you may have to adjust it again.) -- Matthew V. Jessick Motorsims [email hidden] http://www.moto1.net Vehicle Dynamics Engineer (972)910-8866 Ext.125, Fax: (972)910-8216