Re: the old banked monza races

The track is split in two at the start finnish straight, you would come off the parapolica and the after the pits onto the oval then after rounding the oval you would pass the pits again and head of towalds the Curva Grande. Alex "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> having looking at this picture > http://www.forix.com/asp/ci.asp?z=0&k=0&l=0&r=5507&c=0 > > > im wondering how a lap was run. > > the only way i can figure out here is if > you run the retifillio then run on the anello one after the other. > > but then again you'd be passing the start finish twice !! ??? > > arghh.. how did they do it, someone enlighten me > > thanks > > Rich

"Rich" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:06:50 GMT, "GBB" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >The track is split in two at the start finnish straight, you would comeoff > >the parapolica and the after the pits onto the oval then after roundingthe

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> >oval you would pass the pits again and head of towalds the Curva Grande. > > > >Alex > > > how would you time the lap then, doesnt that mean that you would cross > the start finish line twice ??

Although the s/f-line is drawn on the whole width of the track, it only "counts" on the right "lane" of it, for the cars that come out of Parabolica and head towards the first banked curve. Imagine the Monza of GPL with the s/f-straight separated into two "lanes" by a wall that starts on the left side of the exit of Parabolica and continues along the track, parallel to the pitwall to the edge of the fence on the right side of the track where the long straight continues towards Curva Grande. Regards Crash

Rich <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >The track is split in two at the start finnish straight, you wouldcome off > >the parapolica and the after the pits onto the oval then afterrounding the > >oval you would pass the pits again and head of towalds the CurvaGrande. > > how would you time the lap then, doesnt that mean that you wouldcross > the start finish line twice ?? Not exactly... you don't need to cross over the start-finish straight. Picture the track as a figure-8 with the top loop turned inside-out - it now comes close to the bottom loop, but only crosses it once (at the bridge between Lesmos, and the present-day chicane which follows the back straight). The inside loop runs along the modern pit lane; the outside loop is the other side of the s-f straight. Any clearer? Jonny

Joachim Blum <[email hidden]> wrote on 20 Aug 2001: <snip> > Imagine the Monza of GPL with the s/f-straight separated into two > "lanes" by a wall that starts on the left side of the exit of > Parabolica and continues along the track, parallel to the pitwall > to the edge of the fence on the right side of the track where the > long straight continues towards Curva Grande. There's a GPL track available called "Milano" that is about as close as you're going to get to the "double Monza" - it's a lot of fun, especially with a BRM spec race! -- "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. Nominations for the rest of this sig are currently being accepted...

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (David Buttery) writes: >There's a GPL track available called "Milano" that is about as close as >you're going to get to the "double Monza" - it's a lot of fun, >especially with a BRM spec race! Ugh. I'm glad I missed that race. I can't STAND the BRM... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

having looking at this picture http://www.forix.com/asp/ci.asp?z=0&k=0&l=0&r=5507&c=0 im wondering how a lap was run. the only way i can figure out here is if you run the retifillio then run on the anello one after the other. but then again you'd be passing the start finish twice !! ??? arghh.. how did they do it, someone enlighten me thanks Rich

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:06:50 GMT, "GBB" <[email hidden]> wrote: >The track is split in two at the start finnish straight, you would come off >the parapolica and the after the pits onto the oval then after rounding the >oval you would pass the pits again and head of towalds the Curva Grande. > >Alex how would you time the lap then, doesnt that mean that you would cross the start finish line twice ?? cheers Rich

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>"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> having looking at this picture >> http://www.forix.com/asp/ci.asp?z=0&k=0&l=0&r=5507&c=0 >> >> >> im wondering how a lap was run. >> >> the only way i can figure out here is if >> you run the retifillio then run on the anello one after the other. >> >> but then again you'd be passing the start finish twice !! ??? >> >> arghh.. how did they do it, someone enlighten me >> >> thanks >> >> Rich >

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>Although the s/f-line is drawn on the whole width of the track, it only >"counts" on the right "lane" of it, for the cars that come out of Parabolica >and head towards the first banked curve. >Imagine the Monza of GPL with the s/f-straight separated into two "lanes" by >a wall that starts on the left side of the exit of Parabolica and continues >along the track, parallel to the pitwall to the edge of the fence on the >right side of the track where the long straight continues towards Curva >Grande. > >Regards >Crash

thanks that clears stuff up ;) everyone should check out the 67 video here if you aint already ;) http://www.monzasport.it/Inglese/Videos/Videos.htm rich

Rich <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> having looking at this picture > http://www.forix.com/asp/ci.asp?z=0&k=0&l=0&r=5507&c=0 > > > im wondering how a lap was run. > > the only way i can figure out here is if > you run the retifillio then run on the anello one after the other. > > but then again you'd be passing the start finish twice !! ??? > > arghh.. how did they do it, someone enlighten me >

The S/F straight was split in half meaning it was more or less 2 separate pieces of track.... Besides, I don't think they had to worry about beacons Dan timing devices :-) Look at GPL, if you leave Parabollica and don't stray left back the barrier at the exit you keep going straight into the wall before the banking (ever wonder why theres a wall in the middle of the road on an F1 track? hehehe, that safety! Now imagine going around the banking and re-entering the track from the slip road no accessible onto the straight, don't go over to the pit side and you go around the main bit of the track until you reach parabollica and cross over again.

>"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote >> having looking at this picture >> http://www.forix.com/asp/ci.asp?z=0&k=0&l=0&r=5507&c=0 >> im wondering how a lap was run. If you have Grand Prix Legends, and you want to find out "first hand" how it works, check this out: "Milano - the long-sought-after banked Monza, combining a pre-WWII infield layout with the glorious high banking of the 50's/60's. Created by SNRL's own Bubba Jones." Much information, history, and download, available at: http://www.colintaber.com/snrl/milano Chris Noto, see Noto at tee dee ess dot net