K7 Temperature Range?

Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.) seems alarming. Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing. Is this nominal? --Steve Smith

"Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:y5Ag7.325605$[email hidden]... > Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.) seems > alarming. Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing. Is this nominal? > > --Steve Smith Mine is doing 62 and it seems happy :) The monitor prog wont ring until it reaches 85.... Bart Westra

50c is 'ok' at full load anything over that is a bit hot, but the sensors on Athlon mobos aren't very accurate and the best test of what is ok is if it's stable. Also if you are useing the thermal pad that came with your heatsink it will 'burn in' to some extent and your temps may drop To get your temp down use arctic silver thermal compound between the heatsink and cpu, and get a good heatsink: Thermo Engine, Taisol, Swiftech... And fan prefrably a delta, very loud but very afective. One other thing I have thought of I have a 1Ghz @ 1.333 and I run it at 1.7 volts I 'think' the default for a 1.333 is 1.8 ish volts so you could try lowering it, drop the volts 0.25 at a time untill it becomes unstable, mine is rock solid at 1.7v (it hasn't crashed in the 2 weeks I've had it once) but mega unstable at 1.675v so you are ok running at the lowest voltage you can and lower voltage will lower your temps. Alex Cameron "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:y5Ag7.325605$[email hidden]... > Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.) seems > alarming. Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing. Is this nominal? > > --Steve Smith > >

from what I can tell, you are right in the sweet spot. I had a friend of my son put in a 1.4 and it ran at 60c during coolish weather...as soon as the high 90's(farenheit) returned, his mb started beeping and squawking and locking up...I checked his bios and it was at 68c. Right now he has a 20 inch box fan blowing on the sucker and got it down to 58c :) dave henrie "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:y5Ag7.325605$[email hidden]... > Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.) seems > alarming. Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing. Is this nominal? > > --Steve Smith > >

Just mix up some brownie batter and put it in the case.. It'll suck all the heat away and you get brownies!! Oh, it'll keep the kids occupied while you race! <g> "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4_Cg7.48196$[email hidden]... > from what I can tell, you are right in the sweet spot. I had a friendof > my son put in a 1.4 and it ran at 60c during coolish weather...as soon as > the high 90's(farenheit) returned, his mb started beeping and squawkingand > locking up...I checked his bios and it was at 68c. Right now he has a20 > inch box fan blowing on the sucker and got it down to 58c :) > dave henrie > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:y5Ag7.325605$[email hidden]... > > Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.)seems > > alarming. Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing. Is thisnominal?

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Wow, those temps are pretty warm there! Anything getting into the 60's is way too hot IMO, must be something wrong with his cooling. 50 deg isn't too bad, but with 8 fans I would have though it'd be lower than that. Still, it's within a reasonable range. But like others mentioned, the temp sensors can be dodgy. What mobo you using? My [email hidden] sits at 40-44 with case off, gets up to 50 (full load) with the case on, but system temp is getting to 30+ deg. Obviously if you have a higher system temp, then the cpu temp will be higher again. Problem is, those temps can lead to big reliability probs as you've found. so a good call with that fan there :) Rafe Mc On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:25:36 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> from what I can tell, you are right in the sweet spot. I had a friend of >my son put in a 1.4 and it ran at 60c during coolish weather...as soon as >the high 90's(farenheit) returned, his mb started beeping and squawking and >locking up...I checked his bios and it was at 68c. Right now he has a 20 >inch box fan blowing on the sucker and got it down to 58c :) >dave henrie >"Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:y5Ag7.325605$[email hidden]... >> Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.) seems >> alarming. Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing. Is this nominal? >> >> --Steve Smith >> >> >

>Mine is doing 62 and it seems happy :) >The monitor prog wont ring until it reaches 85.... >Bart, I'd do something about your cooling there, that's pretty damn hot! If it's stable for you then I guess it doesn't matter, but if you have a hot day it may get very unhappy. Setting your monitor at 85deg is a bad move, you'll fry the chip if it get that hot. AMD says 90deg, but that's for the internal core. The temp you're measuring is outside, through the ceramic packaging. For a core temp of 90, you'll probably only read 70 on your sensor. So you wouldn't have much room to move... Of course, if you're talking fareinheit, then I guess its all fine :P Rafe Mc

Steve, see my reply at Legends Central. Marc "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:y5Ag7.325605$[email hidden]... > Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.) seems > alarming. Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing. Is this nominal? > > --Steve Smith > >

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> > >Mine is doing 62 and it seems happy :) > >The monitor prog wont ring until it reaches 85.... > > > Bart, I'd do something about your cooling there, that's pretty damn > hot! If it's stable for you then I guess it doesn't matter, but if you > have a hot day it may get very unhappy. > > Setting your monitor at 85deg is a bad move, you'll fry the chip if it > get that hot. AMD says 90deg, but that's for the internal core. The > temp you're measuring is outside, through the ceramic packaging. For a > core temp of 90, you'll probably only read 70 on your sensor. So you > wouldn't have much room to move... > > Of course, if you're talking fareinheit, then I guess its all fine :P > > Rafe Mc

No it's Celsius. I forgot to say that it is an Athlon 800 though, so not like the 1+GHz in this thread. I recently added a case fan because the cpu sensor was up to 70 and the mobo sensor was up to 48.... The whole chassis got very warm then, and the 2 hard drives especially, but the system was still stable :) With the case fan I get 36/62 and the case remains cool. Taking off the cover has the greatest effect, it will take off another 5 degrees or so. I have that as a last resort for very hot weather :) The 85 degrees was default in the Asus monitor program and I never changed it. I have this system for about a year now. Bart

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> Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.) > seems > alarming. Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing. Is this > nominal? > > --Steve Smith > >

Mine's a 1.4GHz with the standard AMD fan and heatsink and only one generic 80cm fan in the case. It runs about 42 Celsius. -- "Life is what you experience between racing games" Galley

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>No it's Celsius. I forgot to say that it is an Athlon 800 though, so not >like the 1+GHz in this thread. I recently added a case fan because the cpu >sensor was up to 70 and the mobo sensor was up to 48.... The whole chassis >got very warm then, and the 2 hard drives especially, but the system was >still stable :) With the case fan I get 36/62 and the case remains cool. >Taking off the cover has the greatest effect, it will take off another 5 >degrees or so. I have that as a last resort for very hot weather :) >The 85 degrees was default in the Asus monitor program and I never changed >it. >I have this system for about a year now. > >Bart

48deg system? Holy shit! No wonder you're getting some good temps. Might as well cook a roast dinner while you're at it :D You definitely needed some case cooling, is that single fan enough? Just a thought - maybe your power supply fan has gone and is heating up the case as well? The Asus probe is pretty accurate, usually reads a bit higher than other mobo's, so that may not be as bad as it sounds. Bottom line is it's fairly stable anyway I guess, so no biggie. :) Rafe Mc

Alex, Thx. I meant to say 60 C. (doh!). The default core voltage (Asus A7V) is ca. 1.8 v (the mobo is only producing 1.9), and the BIOS won't let me go much below 1.75 (vs. 1.65 for my P3 mobo). Yer right; it is 'burning in' a bit; the temps came down 2 C. after a couple of hours. (Still smells like new brake pads, tho.) I had one of those Thermaltake "Orb" fans, but decided to go with a conventional model and save it for my next T'bird (which will have 4 fans, not 8). Thx, guys, for all yer help. --Steve "GBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2YAg7.28760$[email hidden]... > 50c is 'ok' at full load anything over that is a bit hot, but the sensorson > Athlon mobos aren't very accurate and the best test of what is ok is ifit's > stable. Also if you are useing the thermal pad that came with yourheatsink

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> it will 'burn in' to some extent and your temps may drop > > To get your temp down use arctic silver thermal compound between the > heatsink and cpu, and get a good heatsink: Thermo Engine, Taisol, > Swiftech... And fan prefrably a delta, very loud but very afective. > > One other thing I have thought of I have a 1Ghz @ 1.333 and I run it at

1.7 > volts I 'think' the default for a 1.333 is 1.8 ish volts so you could try > lowering it, drop the volts 0.25 at a time untill it becomes unstable,mine > is rock solid at 1.7v (it hasn't crashed in the 2 weeks I've had it once) > but mega unstable at 1.675v so you are ok running at the lowest voltageyou

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> can and lower voltage will lower your temps. > > Alex Cameron > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:y5Ag7.325605$[email hidden]... > > Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.)

seems > > alarming. Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing. Is thisnominal? > > > > --Steve Smith > > > > > >

Marc, Read yer reply. You say the prob was the mobo, but you don't say what the mobo was doing to o'heat yer CPU? Faulty volt reg, incorrect readings...or what? --Steve "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:06Fg7.18718$[email hidden]...

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> Steve, see my reply at Legends Central. > > Marc > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:y5Ag7.325605$[email hidden]... > > Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.)

seems > > alarming. Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing. Is thisnominal? > > > > --Steve Smith > > > > > >

Hey, Ok, that 'conventional' model heat sink would be the cause of the relatively high temps. T-Bird 1.1 @ 1.36 w/ 1.85v core. Currently, case temp is 24 C (75 F), CPU is reading 44 C (111 F). This is with a GlobalWin FOP-32 HSF running a 4400 RPM fan. I run a little program called Rain. Works pretty good at keeping the CPU cooler, mainly when it's idle. I use Motherboard Monitor and have the CPU alarm set to go off at 55 C. If it's a warm enough day to set that off, i'll slow the clock and kick the voltage down. -- In memory of DE, - Will - M1MS - http://mach1.simhq.com "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XjMg7.331297$[email hidden]... > Alex, > > Thx. I meant to say 60 C. (doh!). > > The default core voltage (Asus A7V) is ca. 1.8 v (the mobo is only producing > 1.9), and the BIOS won't let me go much below 1.75 (vs. 1.65 for my P3 > mobo). > > Yer right; it is 'burning in' a bit; the temps came down 2 C. after a couple > of hours. (Still smells like new brake pads, tho.) > > I had one of those Thermaltake "Orb" fans, but decided to go with a > conventional model and save it for my next T'bird (which will have 4 fans, > not 8). > > Thx, guys, for all yer help. > > --Steve >

Thx, Will. I'll install the Orb & see what obtains. "Will DeRivera" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EUMg7.2354$[email hidden]... > Hey, > > Ok, that 'conventional' model heat sink would be the cause of therelatively > high temps. T-Bird 1.1 @ 1.36 w/ 1.85v core. Currently, case temp is 24 C > (75 F), CPU is reading 44 C (111 F). This is with a GlobalWin FOP-32 HSF > running a 4400 RPM fan. I run a little program called Rain. Works pretty > good at keeping the CPU cooler, mainly when it's idle. I use Motherboard > Monitor and have the CPU alarm set to go off at 55 C. If it's a warmenough

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> day to set that off, i'll slow the clock and kick the voltage down. > -- > In memory of DE, > - Will > - M1MS > - http://mach1.simhq.com > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:XjMg7.331297$[email hidden]... > > Alex, > > > > Thx. I meant to say 60 C. (doh!). > > > > The default core voltage (Asus A7V) is ca. 1.8 v (the mobo is only > producing > > 1.9), and the BIOS won't let me go much below 1.75 (vs. 1.65 for my P3 > > mobo). > > > > Yer right; it is 'burning in' a bit; the temps came down 2 C. after a > couple > > of hours. (Still smells like new brake pads, tho.) > > > > I had one of those Thermaltake "Orb" fans, but decided to go with a > > conventional model and save it for my next T'bird (which will have 4

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> > not 8). > > > > Thx, guys, for all yer help. > > > > --Steve > > > > >

Hi Steve, on my system, a Themalright SK6 with a Delta fan (and use ArcticSilver2 thermal paste) was 10 degrees Celsius cooler than the Orb. Make sure to go to the ArcticSilver website before applying the paste. Achim

We don't know...and I didn't care. It was a brand new MB and CPU so I was just happy to have the problem solved. The MB was obviously the last thing we tried...I still am amazed (and I am IT guy). Marc. "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1RMg7.360501$[email hidden]... > Marc, > > Read yer reply. You say the prob was the mobo, but you don't say what the > mobo was doing to o'heat yer CPU? Faulty volt reg, incorrectreadings...or

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> what? > > --Steve > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:06Fg7.18718$[email hidden]... > > Steve, see my reply at Legends Central. > > > > Marc > > > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:y5Ag7.325605$[email hidden]... > > > Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.) > seems > > > alarming. Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing. Is this > nominal? > > > > > > --Steve Smith > > > > > > > > > > > >

Marc, A cracked mobo was the last thing I checked (it had been working ok in another physical box) on a P3, even after 6 weeks of intermittant hard resets (power cycles). I thought it was power-related. Upgraded UPS, PS, even site wiring. Hello? --Steve "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:WxQg7.26500$[email hidden]... > We don't know...and I didn't care. It was a brand new MB and CPU so I was > just happy to have the problem solved. The MB was obviously the lastthing

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> we tried...I still am amazed (and I am IT guy). > > Marc. > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:1RMg7.360501$[email hidden]... > > Marc, > > > > Read yer reply. You say the prob was the mobo, but you don't say what

the > > mobo was doing to o'heat yer CPU? Faulty volt reg, incorrect > readings...or > > what? > > > > --Steve

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> > 48deg system? Holy shit! No wonder you're getting some good temps. > Might as well cook a roast dinner while you're at it :D > > You definitely needed some case cooling, is that single fan enough? > Just a thought - maybe your power supply fan has gone and is heating > up the case as well?

I think it is fine now. I added a second hard drive some months ago, then the room temp went up during summer. I found out by accident that the system was running so hot when I was installing a second system (my GPL server:) It never showed any instabilty. Now the power supply fan is working and blowing out, the case fan is blowing in, the case is cool and I fry my eggs in the kitchen again ;-) Bart

Hello, I had huge problem with heat on my older system. I tried fans and everything. The best thing you can do, IMHO, is to move to a larger case. I have WAY more components in my box now and am running cooler than before after moving to a large 24 inch tower. Raymond, ACT LABS ACT LABS Force RS and RS Shifter AMD TBird 1 GHz on Abit KT7-R Micron PC133 768 Megs RAM Win 2K/Win98SE dual boot Voodoo 5 5500 AGP; ATI Radeon PCI 2 x Samsung 900NF dual display ATI TV Tuner USB Diamond MX400; Altec Lansing ADA890 DLink 538TX 2xIBM 75GXP 7200rpm 46.1 Gig;RAID 0 Fujitsu 8.4 Gig; Fujitsu 17.3 Gig On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:15:58 GMT, Galley_SimRacer <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Stephen Smith wrote: >> Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.) >> seems >> alarming. Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing. Is this >> nominal? >> >> --Steve Smith >> >> > >Mine's a 1.4GHz with the standard AMD fan and heatsink and only one >generic 80cm fan in the case. It runs about 42 Celsius.

>only one generic 80cm fan in the case. Whoa there, an 80 cm fan would be pretty impressive. Even more impressive would be the 1.5 metre case to fit it into. ;-) Wouldn't want to try and get to sleep next to that baby :-o Rafe Mc

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> > Wow, those temps are pretty warm there! Anything getting into the 60's > is way too hot IMO, must be something wrong with his cooling. > > 50 deg isn't too bad, but with 8 fans I would have though it'd be > lower than that. Still, it's within a reasonable range. But like > others mentioned, the temp sensors can be dodgy. What mobo you using? > > My [email hidden] sits at 40-44 with case off, gets up to 50 (full load) > with the case on, but system temp is getting to 30+ deg. Obviously if > you have a higher system temp, then the cpu temp will be higher again. > Problem is, those temps can lead to big reliability probs as you've > found. so a good call with that fan there :)

Actually, this all depends on the MoBo you are using, ASUS A7V and A7V133 will have my 1333 in the mid 60's at 100% CPU load, my A7M266 runs at high 40's low 50's with the same CPU, I actually swapped it between 3 PC's here in the shop, so seeing mid 60's is not alarming depending on your MoBo Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Stephen Smith wrote: > > Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.) seems > alarming. Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing. Is this nominal? Depends on your MoBo, some will report temps in the mid to high 60's under full load, I wouldn't worry about it too much, the AMD 's run a fair bit hooter than the P3's Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Goy, I thought the diff betw. an A7A and an A7M was that the latter uses only DDR RAM. Could this be causing the huge temp diff? It's my A7A266 (w. the ridiculously-yclept AliMAGIK chipset) that's running hot. I also have an A7V266 on order (prolly what I should have ordered in the first place); can I expect to fry eggs on this one, too? --Steve "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Rafe McAuliffe wrote: > > > > Wow, those temps are pretty warm there! Anything getting into the 60's > > is way too hot IMO, must be something wrong with his cooling. > > > > 50 deg isn't too bad, but with 8 fans I would have though it'd be > > lower than that. Still, it's within a reasonable range. But like > > others mentioned, the temp sensors can be dodgy. What mobo you using? > > > > My [email hidden] sits at 40-44 with case off, gets up to 50 (full load) > > with the case on, but system temp is getting to 30+ deg. Obviously if > > you have a higher system temp, then the cpu temp will be higher again. > > Problem is, those temps can lead to big reliability probs as you've > > found. so a good call with that fan there :) > > Actually, this all depends on the MoBo you are using, ASUS A7V and > A7V133 will have my 1333 in the mid 60's at 100% CPU load, my A7M266 > runs at high 40's low 50's with the same CPU, I actually swapped it > between 3 PC's here in the shop, so seeing mid 60's is not alarming > depending on your MoBo > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

>Actually, this all depends on the MoBo you are using, ASUS A7V and >A7V133 will have my 1333 in the mid 60's at 100% CPU load, my A7M266 >runs at high 40's low 50's with the same CPU, I actually swapped it >between 3 PC's here in the shop, so seeing mid 60's is not alarming >depending on your MoBo > Wow Goy, that's a fair difference. I know that the A7V and A7V133 mobos tend to report higher temps, mainly due to the temp probe actually touching the base of the CPU. Still, that's a hell of a difference. Does the A7M266 temp probe touch the cpu base as well? I know my Iwill mobo tends to read a few deg cooler than other mobo's, so maybe we're all guessing in the dark as to what the *actual* temperature is. And even between different examples of the same model mobo. The only thing you can be sure of is that if you alter the cooling, the difference between the before and after states is pretty accurate. Rafe Mc

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> > >Actually, this all depends on the MoBo you are using, ASUS A7V and > >A7V133 will have my 1333 in the mid 60's at 100% CPU load, my A7M266 > >runs at high 40's low 50's with the same CPU, I actually swapped it > >between 3 PC's here in the shop, so seeing mid 60's is not alarming > >depending on your MoBo > > > > Wow Goy, that's a fair difference. I know that the A7V and A7V133 > mobos tend to report higher temps, mainly due to the temp probe > actually touching the base of the CPU. Still, that's a hell of a > difference. Does the A7M266 temp probe touch the cpu base as well?

Not sure, I'd have to rip the CPU off to find out as we don't have any in stock right now, and I'm not crawling in there right now :-), but it seems reasonable that they've changed the way they measure this to be more in line with the rest of the MoBo manufacturers > I know my Iwill mobo tends to read a few deg cooler than other mobo's, > so maybe we're all guessing in the dark as to what the *actual* > temperature is. And even between different examples of the same model > mobo. The only thing you can be sure of is that if you alter the > cooling, the difference between the before and after states is pretty > accurate. Exactly, it would surprise me a lot if the actual temp on the CPU varied more than a couple of degrees from one MoBo to the next, CPU's themselves are different story though...., but I've yet to see any tests that confirm this using an actual temp probe, but then again I'm no electronics expert, I just build these things and talk from experience, if somebody knows otherwise, I'd be interested in a link to the article or something Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

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> > Goy, > > I thought the diff betw. an A7A and an A7M was that the latter uses only DDR > RAM. Could this be causing the huge temp diff? It's my A7A266 (w. the > ridiculously-yclept AliMAGIK chipset) that's running hot. I also have an > A7V266 on order (prolly what I should have ordered in the first place); can > I expect to fry eggs on this one, too?

As I told Rafe in my other reply just now, I think it has more to do with the way they are measuring the temps, physically, than in the actual temps we would see using an independent temp probe, could easily be that ASUS has changed this to be more in line with other manufacturers on their latest boards They have an A7V266 as well ? I must have missed that one, but if it's the A7M266 you will more than likely see a significant drop in CPU temps, my 1333 running at 1420, original voltage, case lid off and a GlobalWin WBK68 HS/Fan (got tired of the noise from my FOP38 or whatever I was using on that PC earlier :-) runs at 49-51 C under 100 CPU load using the UD client, and it's running 24/7 like this, this very same CPU ran at 65-67 C in an ASUS A7V/133 board, I switched MoBo just a couple of weeks ago Is there any particular reason you don't seem to like the A7A266 ? I'm just asking so that I can provide my customers with better advice as I have no personal experience with that one, nor have I actually sold any so far so I haven't gotten any feedback Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

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>Exactly, it would surprise me a lot if the actual temp on the CPU varied >more than a couple of degrees from one MoBo to the next, CPU's >themselves are different story though...., but I've yet to see any tests >that confirm this using an actual temp probe, but then again I'm no >electronics expert, I just build these things and talk from experience, >if somebody knows otherwise, I'd be interested in a link to the article >or something

I know that another guy who has a CompuNurse probe measured a constant 10deg higher with his probe. Mind you, that was on *his* particular board, an Iwill KK266, which has a probe which doesn't touch the cpu base. It sits about 5mm below the cpu base. www.athlonoc.com has a lot of article and links on this stuff, and an excellen forum as well if you're keen. Rafe Mc

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> > I know that another guy who has a CompuNurse probe measured a constant > 10deg higher with his probe. Mind you, that was on *his* particular > board, an Iwill KK266, which has a probe which doesn't touch the cpu > base. It sits about 5mm below the cpu base. > > www.athlonoc.com has a lot of article and links on this stuff, and an > excellen forum as well if you're keen.

I may take a look around there, thx for tip Rafe Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" --Groucho Marx--