Anybody got N4 to run under OpenGL with a Canopus Pure 3D Voodoo2.. Direct3D sucks

Has any body managed to get the Voodoo2 to run in OpenGL for Nascar 4 .??? May have to send the game back as direct 3D sucks. Graphics are no better than the old Nascar 1. Nigel -- Redline Race Controls http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/lakewood/Redline2.htm

In article <9ma841$k28$[email hidden]>, "Nigel Nichols" <[email hidden]> writes: >Has any body managed to get the Voodoo2 to run in OpenGL for Nascar 4 .??? >May have to send the game back as direct 3D sucks. Graphics are no better >than the old Nascar 1. > Have you loaded DX8 during the install of N4? That may be causing your problems. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Nigel Nichols <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9ma841$k28$[email hidden]... > > Has any body managed to get the Voodoo2 to run in OpenGL for Nascar 4 .??? > May have to send the game back as direct 3D sucks. Graphics are no better > than the old Nascar 1. > > Nigel If you're looking for Open GL to be the savoir for N4 on your Voodoo 2, save yourself some grief - it will be even worse in Open GL than D3D! My experience with my Voodoo 3 2000 and N4 showed me that the game runs about three times slower in Open GL on a Voodoo 3 system. Ironically, it is faster in Open GL than D3D T&L on my Geforce 2 MX. As to the second part of your observation, the graphics are better than previous NASCAR's once you get to at least 1040 x 768. Anything short of that and it can look relatively Spartan. It's not the quantam leap I expected graphically, but it is better provided you can run at 1040 x 768 or higher. John Cauthen

Thanks guys I didn't load the DX8 during install as I already had DX8 on so it wasn't installed with N4. Thanks John. I won't try any further to run in OpenGL and either take the game back or shelve it until I can except another PC upgrade. I know I am expecting alot for a Celeron 466 with Voodoo2 but I thought at least I could run well online. Cya Nigel Redline Race Controls http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/lakewood/Redline2.htm

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> > Thanks guys > > I didn't load the DX8 during install as I already had DX8 on so it wasn't > installed with N4. > > Thanks John. I won't try any further to run in OpenGL and either take the > game back or shelve it until I can except another PC upgrade. I know I am > expecting alot for a Celeron 466 with Voodoo2 but I thought at least I > could run well online. > > Cya > Nigel > > Redline Race Controls > > http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/lakewood/Redline2.htm

Pfffft, with the kind of money you make on those pedals of yours you should be able to afford an upgrade....:-))) Yes, you are expecting a bit much of the V2 card, but replace it with a GeForce2 MX card, which ought to be really cheap these days, even in NZ :-), you might at least get a taste of what the game is like, you could always try overclocking that Celeron of yours a little bit as well you know, just 10-15% more speed could be the difference between enjoying N4 or not Nigel Nichols for President, or Prime Minister...or something Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" --Groucho Marx--

Hi folks Goy..... I have airmarked some dosh for the PC from the current batch of pedal but in the form of a CD writer, and then more RAM, hmmmmmmmm still want a digital camera....... >:)))))) Anyway, history has been made. I returned a Papy sim to the shop for the first time even. I think it's more of not wanting to have to spend upwards of a $1000 to bring my PC up to mark to run N4. I agree my Voodoo2 is dated but I thought I would well equipped enough to at least run online where my PC would not have to deal with the physics of the other cars. A Gforce2 MX card is $409 NZ here at the moment and I think I will still be lagging with only a Celeron 466 and 64 meg I will await for a WSC demo before I consider spending more on my PC. Take care Nigel -- Redline Race Controls http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/lakewood/Redline2.htm Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Nigel Nichols wrote: > > > > Thanks guys > > > > I didn't load the DX8 during install as I already had DX8 on so it wasn't > > installed with N4. > > > > Thanks John. I won't try any further to run in OpenGL and either take the > > game back or shelve it until I can except another PC upgrade. I know I am > > expecting alot for a Celeron 466 with Voodoo2 but I thought at least I > > could run well online. > > > > Cya > > Nigel > > > > Redline Race Controls > > > > http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/lakewood/Redline2.htm > > Pfffft, with the kind of money you make on those pedals of yours you > should be able to afford an upgrade....:-))) > > Yes, you are expecting a bit much of the V2 card, but replace it with a > GeForce2 MX card, which ought to be really cheap these days, even in NZ > :-), you might at least get a taste of what the game is like, you could > always try overclocking that Celeron of yours a little bit as well you > know, just 10-15% more speed could be the difference between enjoying N4 > or not > > Nigel Nichols for President, or Prime Minister...or something > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > http://www.theuspits.com > http://www.teammirage.com > > "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" > --Groucho Marx--

Hey Nigel, wanna make a deal? I'd be more than happy to send you a shiny new GF2 card in exchange for one of your very cool pedal sets. Yeah, I know it's a sacrifice on my part, but hey, us simmers gotta stick together. <VBG> -- See ya in the pits, Dean I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how long it's been since I've forgotten anything. "Nigel Nichols" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9mcrjr$95n$[email hidden]... > Hi folks > > Goy..... I have airmarked some dosh for the PC from the current batch of > pedal but in the form of a CD writer, and then more RAM, hmmmmmmmm still > want a digital camera....... >:)))))) > > Anyway, history has been made. I returned a Papy sim to the shop for the > first time even. > I think it's more of not wanting to have to spend upwards of a $1000 to > bring my PC up to mark to run N4. > I agree my Voodoo2 is dated but I thought I would well equipped enough to at > least run online where my PC would not > have to deal with the physics of the other cars. > A Gforce2 MX card is $409 NZ here at the moment and I think I will still be > lagging with only a Celeron 466 and 64 meg > > I will await for a WSC demo before I consider spending more on my PC. > > Take care > Nigel > -- > Redline Race Controls > http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/lakewood/Redline2.htm > Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Nigel Nichols wrote: > > > > > > Thanks guys > > > > > > I didn't load the DX8 during install as I already had DX8 on so it > wasn't > > > installed with N4. > > > > > > Thanks John. I won't try any further to run in OpenGL and either take > the > > > game back or shelve it until I can except another PC upgrade. I know I > am > > > expecting alot for a Celeron 466 with Voodoo2 but I thought at least I > > > could run well online. > > > > > > Cya > > > Nigel > > > > > > Redline Race Controls > > > > > > http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/lakewood/Redline2.htm > > > > Pfffft, with the kind of money you make on those pedals of yours you > > should be able to afford an upgrade....:-))) > > > > Yes, you are expecting a bit much of the V2 card, but replace it with a > > GeForce2 MX card, which ought to be really cheap these days, even in NZ > > :-), you might at least get a taste of what the game is like, you could > > always try overclocking that Celeron of yours a little bit as well you > > know, just 10-15% more speed could be the difference between enjoying N4 > > or not > > > > Nigel Nichols for President, or Prime Minister...or something > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > > > > http://www.theuspits.com > > http://www.teammirage.com > > > > "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" > > --Groucho Marx-- > > >

IMHO, you're expecting an AWFUL lot on a Celery and Voodoo2. For the most part, on-line racing is more system intensive, not less. I can run much better graphics detail off-line than on-line. Maybe your experiences are different, but that is my expereince, anyone else have similar results? Meaning on-line is more intensive system wise than off-line as long as the fields are similar in size? -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Nigel Nichols <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9mbsle$19b$[email hidden]... > Thanks guys > > I didn't load the DX8 during install as I already had DX8 on so it wasn't > installed with N4. > > Thanks John. I won't try any further to run in OpenGL and either take the > game back or shelve it until I can except another PC upgrade. I know I am > expecting alot for a Celeron 466 with Voodoo2 but I thought at least I > could run well online. > > Cya > Nigel > > Redline Race Controls > > http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/lakewood/Redline2.htm > >

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> > Hi folks > > Goy..... I have airmarked some dosh for the PC from the current batch of > pedal but in the form of a CD writer, and then more RAM, hmmmmmmmm still > want a digital camera....... >:)))))) > > Anyway, history has been made. I returned a Papy sim to the shop for the > first time even. > I think it's more of not wanting to have to spend upwards of a $1000 to > bring my PC up to mark to run N4. > I agree my Voodoo2 is dated but I thought I would well equipped enough to at > least run online where my PC would not > have to deal with the physics of the other cars. > A Gforce2 MX card is $409 NZ here at the moment and I think I will still be > lagging with only a Celeron 466 and 64 meg > > I will await for a WSC demo before I consider spending more on my PC.

400.....wow, I could sell you one for about half that price, if memory serves me right about the exchange rate....., of course, shipping charges would make it a bit more expensive of course :-) Didn't know NZ was such a high price area Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

"Goy Larsen" > > Didn't know NZ was such a high price area > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy Prices in NZ are so high because livestock production came to a standstill while they filmed Lord of the Rings on the only cattle ranch in Zedland. The Island is only big enough for ONE ranch right? dave henrie

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> > "Goy Larsen" > > > Didn't know NZ was such a high price area > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > > Prices in NZ are so high because livestock production came to a > standstill while they filmed Lord of the Rings on the only cattle ranch in > Zedland. The Island is only big enough for ONE ranch right? > dave henrie

ROFL, good one Dave Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com