Racer - People wouldn't know a good thing if it kicked them in the arse!!

Just read Ruud's piece 'The Plan' on his site, I think that it has been unfortunate the amount of heat that he has been getting on his forum and on R.A.S. Yes, Racer is not yet complete but it is a highly interesting project. If you want to play GPL, stop whining and go and play GPL! All I can say is that I know where he is coming from and think that he has been incredibly brave to have been releasing the source code so far, I personally hope that he does continue to make the source available, it is interesting to see how he has been approaching the various puzzles that are simulators. I have said this before but here goes again, good luck in the future, good things will come to he that has patience. Colin

On 28 Aug 2001 00:52:22 -0700, Colin Reed <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Just read Ruud's piece 'The Plan' on his site, I think that it has >been unfortunate the amount of heat that he has been getting on his >forum and on R.A.S. > >Yes, Racer is not yet complete but it is a highly interesting project. >If you want to play GPL, stop whining and go and play GPL! >

Hey Colin, it looks like you're mixing up your "GPL"'s here! ;-) Ruud's plan is on about the game not being "GPL"'ed, as in "GNU general public license", not as in "Grand Prix Legends". Some zealot(s) on tuxgames.org gave Ruud shit for not GPL'ing the racer source, which is again quite different from "open source". >I have said this before but here goes again, good luck in the future, >good things will come to he that has patience. I too would like to thank Ruud for releasing the source, it helped immensely in getting a half-decent linux version out in a timely manner. Cheers, uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp http://www.schuerkamp.de/ uwe.schuerkamp at telemedia.de for direct mail (from: is spambox) PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On 28 Aug 2001 00:52:22 -0700, [email hidden] (Colin Reed) wrote: >Just read Ruud's piece 'The Plan' on his site, I think that it has >been unfortunate the amount of heat that he has been getting on his >forum and on R.A.S. Thanks for the support, Colin. Actually, it was some comments on HappyPenguin.org about the non-GPL (GNU public license) nature of the source and to boycot Racer until it is GPL. Perhaps for some people this hasn't been clear, and those people might not have looked at the source, so hopefully this will be more clear in the future (it is NOT OpenSource). It's my pet project and I like adding things to it still, so a call to release the program's source to be worked on by other developers on SourceForge under GPL license is out of the question. I also think that would bring in too many potential problems by people who are just starting with the source, introducing bugs (as if there aren't enough already ;-) ) without intent. And if there's one thing I hate it's debugging. Fortunately, I can say in general people are very enthusiastic about the project, but it seems releasing the code makes people think they suddenly have the right to consider this OpenSource and otherwise it must be banned. While it's for free. Some people have weird ways of thinking. >All I can say is that I know where he is coming from and think that he >has been incredibly brave to have been releasing the source code so >far, I personally hope that he does continue to make the source >available, it is interesting to see how he has been approaching the >various puzzles that are simulators. I will still release the source code, although in a less easy to find place, and with banners, warnings and fences around it, lol, to warn about the use of it. Ruud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.25 Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/ Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/

Well Mr Ruud sir...what you are doing is remarkable and at least from this forum I have heard only good things. Do with it as you will. Let the tiny-minded boycotters find another sandbox to play in. Good Luck...great work. dave henrie "Ruud van Gaal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On 28 Aug 2001 00:52:22 -0700, [email hidden] (Colin Reed) > wrote: > > >Just read Ruud's piece 'The Plan' on his site, I think that it has > >been unfortunate the amount of heat that he has been getting on his > >forum and on R.A.S. > > Thanks for the support, Colin. Actually, it was some comments on > HappyPenguin.org about the non-GPL (GNU public license) nature of the > source and to boycot Racer until it is GPL. > Perhaps for some people this hasn't been clear, and those people might > not have looked at the source, so hopefully this will be more clear in > the future (it is NOT OpenSource). It's my pet project and I like > adding things to it still, so a call to release the program's source > to be worked on by other developers on SourceForge under GPL license > is out of the question. I also think that would bring in too many > potential problems by people who are just starting with the source, > introducing bugs (as if there aren't enough already ;-) ) without > intent. And if there's one thing I hate it's debugging. > > Fortunately, I can say in general people are very enthusiastic about > the project, but it seems releasing the code makes people think they > suddenly have the right to consider this OpenSource and otherwise it > must be banned. While it's for free. Some people have weird ways of > thinking. > > >All I can say is that I know where he is coming from and think that he > >has been incredibly brave to have been releasing the source code so > >far, I personally hope that he does continue to make the source > >available, it is interesting to see how he has been approaching the > >various puzzles that are simulators. > > I will still release the source code, although in a less easy to find > place, and with banners, warnings and fences around it, lol, to warn > about the use of it. > > > Ruud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.25 > Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/ > Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Rudd! :) "Uwe Schuerkamp" wrote: | I too would like to thank Ruud for releasing the source, it helped | immensely in getting a half-decent linux version out in a timely | manner. | Cheers, | uwe --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.273 / Virus Database: 143 - Release Date: 8/16/2001

Ditto!! (Even if Dave H came up with the text..:)~..) "Dave Henrie" wrote: | Well Mr Ruud sir...what you are doing is remarkable and at least fromthis | forum I have heard only good things. Do with it as you will. Let the | tiny-minded boycotters find another sandbox to play in. Good Luck...great | work. | dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.273 / Virus Database: 143 - Release Date: 8/16/2001

On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:06:50 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Well Mr Ruud sir...what you are doing is remarkable and at least from this >forum I have heard only good things. Do with it as you will. Let the >tiny-minded boycotters find another sandbox to play in. Good Luck...great >work. >dave henrie Thanks. :) Ruud van Gaal Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/ Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

> it looks like you're mixing up your "GPL"'s here! ;-) Ruud's plan is > on about the game not being "GPL"'ed, as in "GNU general public > license", not as in "Grand Prix Legends". Well, if people would stop using anacronyms things wouldn't be so confusing would it. :-) Anyway, erm, racer still rocks .... Colin