N4 framerates and Athlon 1.4

I'm probably going to upgrade from PIII 700 to Athlon 1.4 soon. I am going to keep my Voodoo 5 card because of the FSAA quality. Anyone running a T-Bird 1.4, Voodoo 5 combo in Nascar 4 (2XFSAA) and what kind of framerates are you getting? How about with full field of cars visible? Thanks.

Brian, I am running a 1.2 Gig Tbird with a V5500 card at 2xaa 1024x768. My framerate varies between 35/50 FPS in N4. It is very drivable for me. My brother has a 1.4 Gig Tbird but uses a Nvidea III card. His system varies between 60/70 FPS and is more fluid and drivable than mine. Myself being a self proclaimed NVidea hater 'they are the evil empire' I plan on getting a new ATI 8500 card when they come out hopefully within the next couple of weeks. Bottom line, I think going from a PIII 700 to a Athlon 1.4 you will be very happy with the results and down the road moving to a next generation graphics card will give you yet another big jump :) Regards, Dave B "Brian Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'm probably going to upgrade from PIII 700 to Athlon 1.4 soon. I amgoing > to keep my Voodoo 5 card because of the FSAA quality. Anyone running a > T-Bird 1.4, Voodoo 5 combo in Nascar 4 (2XFSAA) and what kind offramerates > are you getting? How about with full field of cars visible? Thanks. > >

Dave, Sounds like good news re frame rates. Right now I usually get between 17-33 depending on track and # of cars visible. In a pile up with several cars it really creeps along slowly. 30-50 FPS sounds real good! I have also resolved never to go over to the enemy, although with a lack of choices in the future, I may not have much alternative! I just can't give up that great FSAA and I hear Nvida's FSAA solution is poor so far. I thinking of getting an Abit KG7 Motherboard with DDR ram. What motherboard do you have if I may ask? Heard of any issues with KG7 (no raid) and V5? Thanks "DB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Brian, > I am running a 1.2 Gig Tbird with a V5500 card at 2xaa 1024x768. My > framerate > varies between 35/50 FPS in N4. It is very drivable for me. My brother hasa > 1.4 Gig > Tbird but uses a Nvidea III card. His system varies between 60/70 FPS andis > more > fluid and drivable than mine. > Myself being a self proclaimed NVidea hater 'they are the evil empire'I

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> plan on > getting a new ATI 8500 card when they come out hopefully within the next > couple > of weeks. > Bottom line, I think going from a PIII 700 to a Athlon 1.4 you will be > very happy > with the results and down the road moving to a next generation graphics

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> will give > you yet another big jump :) > > Regards, Dave B > > "Brian Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I'm probably going to upgrade from PIII 700 to Athlon 1.4 soon. I am > going > > to keep my Voodoo 5 card because of the FSAA quality. Anyone running a > > T-Bird 1.4, Voodoo 5 combo in Nascar 4 (2XFSAA) and what kind of > framerates > > are you getting? How about with full field of cars visible? Thanks. > > > > > >

Brian, I'm using an Asus A7V133 because I wanted to use my SDRam. My brother got an Asus A7A266 which uses DDR Ram. Both support the 266 bus between the processor and chipset. Abit is definitely a good solid company but I have no experience with them. As far as future graphics options are concerned check out the following review. Good luck to you. Regards, Dave B http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/previews/radeon_8500/index.shtml > Sounds like good news re frame rates. Right now I usually get between17-33 > depending on track and # of cars visible. In a pile up with several carsit

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> really creeps along slowly. 30-50 FPS sounds real good! I have also > resolved never to go over to the enemy, although with a lack of choices in > the future, I may not have much alternative! I just can't give up that > great FSAA and I hear Nvida's FSAA solution is poor so far. > > I thinking of getting an Abit KG7 Motherboard with DDR ram. What > motherboard do you have if I may ask? > > Heard of any issues with KG7 (no raid) and V5? > > Thanks

I'm at 800x600 4xFSAA with a 1.33 GHz getting 18-30 fps with every setting maxed. 42 cars visible in front and behind, max detail, etc. -Tim "Brian Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'm probably going to upgrade from PIII 700 to Athlon 1.4 soon. I amgoing > to keep my Voodoo 5 card because of the FSAA quality. Anyone running a > T-Bird 1.4, Voodoo 5 combo in Nascar 4 (2XFSAA) and what kind offramerates > are you getting? How about with full field of cars visible? Thanks. > >

The one thing to check with with newer mb's is where the Video card slot is. THat dang V5 of mine is sooo long it just barely cleared the memory slots. I too hate to consider the 'other' brand, but if N4 and later sims will be your racing of choice, they do do a better job frame-rate-wise.(is that a bolloxed sentence or what?) :) dave henrie "Brian Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Dave, > > Sounds like good news re frame rates. Right now I usually get between17-33 > depending on track and # of cars visible. In a pile up with several carsit

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> really creeps along slowly. 30-50 FPS sounds real good! I have also > resolved never to go over to the enemy, although with a lack of choices in > the future, I may not have much alternative! I just can't give up that > great FSAA and I hear Nvida's FSAA solution is poor so far. > > I thinking of getting an Abit KG7 Motherboard with DDR ram. What > motherboard do you have if I may ask? > > Heard of any issues with KG7 (no raid) and V5? > > Thanks > > "DB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Brian, > > I am running a 1.2 Gig Tbird with a V5500 card at 2xaa 1024x768. My > > framerate > > varies between 35/50 FPS in N4. It is very drivable for me. My brother

has > a > > 1.4 Gig > > Tbird but uses a Nvidea III card. His system varies between 60/70 FPSand > is > > more > > fluid and drivable than mine. > > Myself being a self proclaimed NVidea hater 'they are the evilempire' > I > > plan on > > getting a new ATI 8500 card when they come out hopefully within the next > > couple > > of weeks. > > Bottom line, I think going from a PIII 700 to a Athlon 1.4 you willbe

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> > very happy > > with the results and down the road moving to a next generation graphics > card > > will give > > you yet another big jump :) > > > > Regards, Dave B > > > > "Brian Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I'm probably going to upgrade from PIII 700 to Athlon 1.4 soon. I am > > going > > > to keep my Voodoo 5 card because of the FSAA quality. Anyone running

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> > > T-Bird 1.4, Voodoo 5 combo in Nascar 4 (2XFSAA) and what kind of > > framerates > > > are you getting? How about with full field of cars visible? Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > >

I would suggest dropping to 2xfsaa and benchmarking that. 18 to 30 fps is dropping down there quite low. dave henrie "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I'm at 800x600 4xFSAA with a 1.33 GHz getting 18-30 fps with every setting > maxed. 42 cars visible in front and behind, max detail, etc. > > -Tim > > "Brian Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I'm probably going to upgrade from PIII 700 to Athlon 1.4 soon. I am > going > > to keep my Voodoo 5 card because of the FSAA quality. Anyone running a > > T-Bird 1.4, Voodoo 5 combo in Nascar 4 (2XFSAA) and what kind of > framerates > > are you getting? How about with full field of cars visible? Thanks. > > > > > >

I am going to go from P3-800 to 1.4 TB, and from GF2MX to GF3 (hopefully) later this week. Supposedly the GF3 FSAA implementation is much much better than the GF2's. I think the processor should make a whale of difference, especially in single player. I'll post my results. Gerald "Brian Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > I'm probably going to upgrade from PIII 700 to Athlon 1.4 soon. I am going > to keep my Voodoo 5 card because of the FSAA quality. Anyone running a > T-Bird 1.4, Voodoo 5 combo in Nascar 4 (2XFSAA) and what kind of framerates > are you getting? How about with full field of cars visible? Thanks.

If I went to 2xfsaa I'd raise the resolution up a few notches to compensate. I think 8x6 at 4xfsaa looks better than 1152x864 @ 2xfsaa or 16x12 @ nofsaa IMHO. -Tim "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jr5j7.17049$[email hidden]... > I would suggest dropping to 2xfsaa and benchmarking that. 18 to 30 fpsis > dropping down there quite low. > dave henrie > "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I'm at 800x600 4xFSAA with a 1.33 GHz getting 18-30 fps with everysetting

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> > maxed. 42 cars visible in front and behind, max detail, etc. > > > > -Tim > > > > "Brian Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I'm probably going to upgrade from PIII 700 to Athlon 1.4 soon. I am > > going > > > to keep my Voodoo 5 card because of the FSAA quality. Anyone running

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> > > T-Bird 1.4, Voodoo 5 combo in Nascar 4 (2XFSAA) and what kind of > > framerates > > > are you getting? How about with full field of cars visible? Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > >

I agree with you...but you are paying a framerate price for the good looks. Y'know it sure is easy to get spoiled by stuff like fsaa. After you have used it for a while....the non aa stuff just looks much worse than what we used to think it did... Have fun... dave henrie "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > If I went to 2xfsaa I'd raise the resolution up a few notches tocompensate. > I think 8x6 at 4xfsaa looks better than 1152x864 @ 2xfsaa or 16x12 @nofsaa

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> IMHO. > > -Tim > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:jr5j7.17049$[email hidden]... > > I would suggest dropping to 2xfsaa and benchmarking that. 18 to 30

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> is > > dropping down there quite low. > > dave henrie > > "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I'm at 800x600 4xFSAA with a 1.33 GHz getting 18-30 fps with every > setting > > > maxed. 42 cars visible in front and behind, max detail, etc. > > > > > > -Tim > > > > > > "Brian Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > I'm probably going to upgrade from PIII 700 to Athlon 1.4 soon. I

am > > > going > > > > to keep my Voodoo 5 card because of the FSAA quality. Anyonerunning > a > > > > T-Bird 1.4, Voodoo 5 combo in Nascar 4 (2XFSAA) and what kind of > > > framerates > > > > are you getting? How about with full field of cars visible?Thanks.

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With a 1.4 T-Bird and Gainward GF-3, no overclocking: N4 at 1024 x 768 x 32, no FSAA: between 65 and 85 FPS. at 1024 x 768 x 32, "quincunx" FSAA, between 45 and 65 FPS. 3DMark2001 = around 5500 w/o any FSAA. I did this mostly just to see if I was in the ballpark, or if my system had any serious problems that needed fixing before I finally got back to gaming. This combination does seem to make a BIG improvement where there is a full field of AI, more smooth, less stuttering, etc. Even so, it still happens every so often that it seems to hiccup, briefly. I haven't tested what happens in 'the big one' at Tally yet... should be better than the slideshow I used to experience with P3-800 and GF2MX. Gerald [email hidden] (Gerald Moore) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> I am going to go from P3-800 to 1.4 TB, and from GF2MX to GF3 > (hopefully) later this week. Supposedly the GF3 FSAA implementation > is much much better than the GF2's. I think the processor should make > a whale of difference, especially in single player. I'll post my > results. > > Gerald > > > "Brian Summers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > > I'm probably going to upgrade from PIII 700 to Athlon 1.4 soon. I am going > > to keep my Voodoo 5 card because of the FSAA quality. Anyone running a > > T-Bird 1.4, Voodoo 5 combo in Nascar 4 (2XFSAA) and what kind of framerates > > are you getting? How about with full field of cars visible? Thanks.