Papy banning people from their N4 Forum now!!!

Ok this has gone WAY too far... Papy has banned me (and others) from their N4 forum just because I made a post about being banned, pleading my case... and I guess they were too scared it would get people talking about why banning isn't right... well looks like others are posting stuff about this now... but they aren't being banned... is it fair? I have repurchased the game...and use the forum for technical information, league info, and just simply the latest talk and rumors involving N4 and how to tweak setup.... now I can't even post a msg.... papy is beginning to stack up problems with their company's actions... and I am by far not the only one who thinks this. There is A LOT of people even on that forum right now debating the banning system... and disagreeing with the moderators.

[email hidden] (B. Hilton) writes:

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> Ok this has gone WAY too far... Papy has banned me (and others) from > their N4 forum just because I made a post about being banned, pleading > my case... and I guess they were too scared it would get people > talking about why banning isn't right... > > well looks like others are posting stuff about this now... but they > aren't being banned... is it fair? I have repurchased the game...and > use the forum for technical information, league info, and just simply > the latest talk and rumors involving N4 and how to tweak setup.... now > I can't even post a msg.... > > papy is beginning to stack up problems with their company's actions... > and I am by far not the only one who thinks this. There is A LOT of > people even on that forum right now debating the banning system... and > disagreeing with the moderators.

Yeah, make sure every wrecker take part in ruin any multiplayer capability from papy once and for all! -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > well looks like others are posting stuff about this now... but they > aren't being banned... is it fair? I have repurchased the game...and > use the forum for technical information, league info, and just simply > the latest talk and rumors involving N4 and how to tweak setup.... now > I can't even post a msg.... There are many other forums that are better than Papy's to get info from for N4. If you've repurchased the game then you've got a CD-key that isn't banned hence you are wasting your time pleading your case. Frequent other forums, race with your new CD-Key and there's no need to cry like a girl with a skinned knee. Cheers, Rod.

Agreed Rod, It is starting to be more then redundantly old at this juncture. "Rod Prince" wrote:

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| There are many other forums that are better than Papy's to get info | from for N4. If you've repurchased the game then you've got a CD-key | that isn't banned hence you are wasting your time pleading your case. | | Frequent other forums, race with your new CD-Key and there's no | need to cry like a girl with a skinned knee. | | Cheers, | Rod. | In article <[email hidden]>, | [email hidden] says... | > well looks like others are posting stuff about this now... but they | > aren't being banned... is it fair? I have repurchased the game...and | > use the forum for technical information, league info, and just simply | > the latest talk and rumors involving N4 and how to tweak setup.... now | > I can't even post a msg....

Good, because you are becoming annoying as hell. "B. Hilton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Ok this has gone WAY too far... Papy has banned me (and others) from > their N4 forum just because I made a post about being banned, pleading > my case... and I guess they were too scared it would get people > talking about why banning isn't right... > > well looks like others are posting stuff about this now... but they > aren't being banned... is it fair? I have repurchased the game...and > use the forum for technical information, league info, and just simply > the latest talk and rumors involving N4 and how to tweak setup.... now > I can't even post a msg.... > > papy is beginning to stack up problems with their company's actions... > and I am by far not the only one who thinks this. There is A LOT of > people even on that forum right now debating the banning system... and > disagreeing with the moderators.

LOL "roy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CJUi7.29232$[email hidden]...

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> Good, because you are becoming annoying as hell. > > "B. Hilton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Ok this has gone WAY too far... Papy has banned me (and others) from > > their N4 forum just because I made a post about being banned, pleading > > my case... and I guess they were too scared it would get people > > talking about why banning isn't right... > > > > well looks like others are posting stuff about this now... but they > > aren't being banned... is it fair? I have repurchased the game...and > > use the forum for technical information, league info, and just simply > > the latest talk and rumors involving N4 and how to tweak setup.... now > > I can't even post a msg.... > > > > papy is beginning to stack up problems with their company's actions... > > and I am by far not the only one who thinks this. There is A LOT of > > people even on that forum right now debating the banning system... and > > disagreeing with the moderators. > > >

Lol, your gonna get yourself banned again in no time. :) Don Burnette "B. Hilton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Ok this has gone WAY too far... Papy has banned me (and others) from > their N4 forum just because I made a post about being banned, pleading > my case... and I guess they were too scared it would get people > talking about why banning isn't right... > > well looks like others are posting stuff about this now... but they > aren't being banned... is it fair? I have repurchased the game...and > use the forum for technical information, league info, and just simply > the latest talk and rumors involving N4 and how to tweak setup.... now > I can't even post a msg.... > > papy is beginning to stack up problems with their company's actions... > and I am by far not the only one who thinks this. There is A LOT of > people even on that forum right now debating the banning system... and > disagreeing with the moderators.

What makes you think that simply buying another copy makes everything ok. You are still the person they banned, right or wrong. Mike Grandy Proud Member of Precision Racing Internet Race Team 3 A Champion Forever-Godspeed Dale "B. Hilton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... Ok this has gone WAY too far... Papy has banned me (and others) from their N4 forum just because I made a post about being banned, pleading my case... and I guess they were too scared it would get people talking about why banning isn't right... well looks like others are posting stuff about this now... but they aren't being banned... is it fair? I have repurchased the game...and use the forum for technical information, league info, and just simply the latest talk and rumors involving N4 and how to tweak setup.... now I can't even post a msg.... papy is beginning to stack up problems with their company's actions... and I am by far not the only one who thinks this. There is A LOT of people even on that forum right now debating the banning system... and disagreeing with the moderators.

Ya know what's funny.... you all are the one who keep responding... so someone must be listening :) "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<n2Vi7.50001$[email hidden]>...

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> LOL > > "roy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:CJUi7.29232$[email hidden]... > > Good, because you are becoming annoying as hell. > > > > "B. Hilton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Ok this has gone WAY too far... Papy has banned me (and others) from > > > their N4 forum just because I made a post about being banned, pleading > > > my case... and I guess they were too scared it would get people > > > talking about why banning isn't right... > > > > > > well looks like others are posting stuff about this now... but they > > > aren't being banned... is it fair? I have repurchased the game...and > > > use the forum for technical information, league info, and just simply > > > the latest talk and rumors involving N4 and how to tweak setup.... now > > > I can't even post a msg.... > > > > > > papy is beginning to stack up problems with their company's actions... > > > and I am by far not the only one who thinks this. There is A LOT of > > > people even on that forum right now debating the banning system... and > > > disagreeing with the moderators. > > > > > >

What do the moderators have to do with anything? They're just "moderating", eh? Trying to keep the peace, no? :) BTW, whether you're a wrecker or not, I don't like the idea of this banning BS. Fight it! -- ------------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/ ------------------------------------- "B. Hilton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Ok this has gone WAY too far... Papy has banned me (and others) from > their N4 forum just because I made a post about being banned, pleading > my case... and I guess they were too scared it would get people > talking about why banning isn't right... > > well looks like others are posting stuff about this now... but they > aren't being banned... is it fair? I have repurchased the game...and > use the forum for technical information, league info, and just simply > the latest talk and rumors involving N4 and how to tweak setup.... now > I can't even post a msg.... > > papy is beginning to stack up problems with their company's actions... > and I am by far not the only one who thinks this. There is A LOT of > people even on that forum right now debating the banning system... and > disagreeing with the moderators. >

If you bought a new CD, can't you use a different user name etc.? Maybe they need a points and non-points setup? Then you could race while trashed etc. At least you would know what to expect? J. Janasov Morgan V. Wooten <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SsYi7.2460$[email hidden]... > What do the moderators have to do with anything? They're just"moderating", > eh? Trying to keep the peace, no? :) > > BTW, whether you're a wrecker or not, I don't like the idea of thisbanning

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> BS. Fight it! > > -- > ------------------------------------- > Morgan Vincent Wooten > http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/ > ------------------------------------- > > > "B. Hilton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Ok this has gone WAY too far... Papy has banned me (and others) from > > their N4 forum just because I made a post about being banned, pleading > > my case... and I guess they were too scared it would get people > > talking about why banning isn't right... > > > > well looks like others are posting stuff about this now... but they > > aren't being banned... is it fair? I have repurchased the game...and > > use the forum for technical information, league info, and just simply > > the latest talk and rumors involving N4 and how to tweak setup.... now > > I can't even post a msg.... > > > > papy is beginning to stack up problems with their company's actions... > > and I am by far not the only one who thinks this. There is A LOT of > > people even on that forum right now debating the banning system... and > > disagreeing with the moderators. > > > >

"B. Hilton" wrote: > > Ok this has gone WAY too far... Papy has banned me (and others) from > their N4 forum just because I made a post about being banned, pleading > my case... and I guess they were too scared it would get people > talking about why banning isn't right... They're probably sick of hearing it too. The real kicker will be when the BBB stops answering their phones when you call them to complain (again). -- Fester

(again) & (again) & (again) & (again) & (again) & (again) :) "Uncle Fester" wrote:

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| They're probably sick of hearing it too. The real kicker will be when | the BBB stops answering their phones when you call them to complain | (again). | -- | Fester | "B. Hilton" wrote: | > | > Ok this has gone WAY too far... Papy has banned me (and others) from | > their N4 forum just because I made a post about being banned, pleading | > my case... and I guess they were too scared it would get people | > talking about why banning isn't right... | |

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"Thom j." wrote:

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> > (again) & (again) & (again) & (again) & (again) & (again) :) > > "Uncle Fester" wrote: > | They're probably sick of hearing it too. The real kicker will be when > | the BBB stops answering their phones when you call them to complain > | (again). > | -- > | Fester

I beginning to suspect he suffers from some sort of obsessive/compulsive disorder. ;-) -- Fester

Get over it already, you running around posting all over is getting very annoying. Is there an N4 forum you haven't posted this garbage to?????? *PLONK* Vintook "B. Hilton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Ok this has gone WAY too far... Papy has banned me (and others) from > their N4 forum just because I made a post about being banned, pleading > my case... and I guess they were too scared it would get people > talking about why banning isn't right... > > well looks like others are posting stuff about this now... but they > aren't being banned... is it fair? I have repurchased the game...and > use the forum for technical information, league info, and just simply > the latest talk and rumors involving N4 and how to tweak setup.... now > I can't even post a msg.... > > papy is beginning to stack up problems with their company's actions... > and I am by far not the only one who thinks this. There is A LOT of > people even on that forum right now debating the banning system... and > disagreeing with the moderators.

actually the BBB is looking into this and I will receive a letter in the mail of the status in a few weeks Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> "Thom j." wrote: > > > > (again) & (again) & (again) & (again) & (again) & (again) :) > > > > "Uncle Fester" wrote: > > | They're probably sick of hearing it too. The real kicker will be when > > | the BBB stops answering their phones when you call them to complain > > | (again). > > | -- > > | Fester > > > I beginning to suspect he suffers from some sort of obsessive/compulsive > disorder. ;-)

This is the way online economics works. (Comments from papers presented at various game developer conferences.) "5% of the people cause 95% of the trouble" that costs a company money. (Support costs including managing events, servers, forums, support calls and emails complaining about bad player actions, etc.) Unless the system is pay by the hour, handling the problems caused by those 5% is very hard to support by income. It is far more optimal to weed out those troublemakers viciously. The more players one has, the more efficient it is to just weed weed weed with a giant weed eater that occasionally takes out undeserving players as well. Because the false positives by the nature of the system aren't individually supporting the system sufficiently to make special handling efficient. You can complain about fairness, but this is just economics. It doesn't have to be fair. "All you can eat" ISPs tend to do the same thing. A user trips the bandwidth alarm and boom! He's gone with no argument and on to prune the next one... This is basic "all you can eat" economics. "B. Hilton" wrote:

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> Ok this has gone WAY too far... Papy has banned me (and others) from > their N4 forum just because I made a post about being banned, pleading > my case... and I guess they were too scared it would get people > talking about why banning isn't right... > > well looks like others are posting stuff about this now... but they > aren't being banned... is it fair? I have repurchased the game...and > use the forum for technical information, league info, and just simply > the latest talk and rumors involving N4 and how to tweak setup.... now > I can't even post a msg.... > > papy is beginning to stack up problems with their company's actions... > and I am by far not the only one who thinks this. There is A LOT of > people even on that forum right now debating the banning system... and > disagreeing with the moderators.