N4 Tally speeds

I can't get crap for speed the AI(70%) blows me away, Why? Is it my machine or wheel or what, the AI at 90% would be a joke, any logical explanations?

could be several things. first controllers. Make sure they are calibrated properly in windows and N4. 2nd..setup. Add tape...approximentally 60 to 70%, even more for short pickup races. 3rd.. setup..download other racer's setups to see if that helps. 4th...get going smoothly and quickly...if the pack pulls away from you a the start, you will lose the draft. And then it's "sayonara baby." 5th check a joystick calibration program to add a tiny deadzone on your brake pedal. Your controller may be dragging the brake even when your foot is completely off the pedal. (an easy way to check this is to run a racing game that shows brakelights like SCGT or Toca or the need for speed efforts...if you see the brake lights lit up even when you are accelerating, you have a controller problem.)(increasing the deadzone will fix it.) good luck. dave henrie "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I can't get crap for speed the AI(70%) blows me away, Why? > Is it my machine or wheel or what, the AI at 90% would be a joke, any > logical explanations? > >

There could be a number of explanations. Here's what springs to mind: - make sure your controller is properly calibrated. I ran a race once and the car just WOULD NOT come up to speed. Turns out, there was some junk wedged in the gas pedal that prevented me from getting full throttle. You should be able to smoke the AI with even the default setups at 70%, but here are some other somewhat less likely contenders: - too steep of a rear gear: this will make it impossible to get up to speed quickly enough to stay in the draft, and makes it easier to lose the draft if you have to lift for any reason. - not enough tape: this is important when trying to pull out of the draft and pass, especially without another car helping you. - losing the draft, or not having a car drafting with you: if you are driving around without at least one partner, you are toast. - excessive steering input: every time you move the wheel, it scrubs off a little speed. If you are constantly "correcting" you will bleed off lots of speed, especially in the turns. Try to be as smooth as possible. - never lift unless absolutely necessary. If you have to lift to make your car turn, re-examine your driving line and/or setup. The AI cars generally take the preferred line. HTH, Gerald Moore "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > I can't get crap for speed the AI(70%) blows me away, Why? > Is it my machine or wheel or what, the AI at 90% would be a joke, any > logical explanations?

Must be a calibration problem. My wife could beat the AI at Tally @ 70%. You can't be getting a full range on your accelerator pedal. If the wheel is new, make sure it is calibrated properly, in Windoze and N4. Look at the numbers for your brake pedal (In N4 calibration), are the gas pedal's numbers remotely close, especially on the high end? If not therein is your problem. If the wheel is old, i would suspect a bad pot. If not, I'd return it for a working unit. Gerald Moore <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> There could be a number of explanations. Here's what springs to mind: > > - make sure your controller is properly calibrated. I ran a race once > and the car just WOULD NOT come up to speed. Turns out, there was > some junk wedged in the gas pedal that prevented me from getting full > throttle. > > > You should be able to smoke the AI with even the default setups at > 70%, but here are some other somewhat less likely contenders: > > - too steep of a rear gear: this will make it impossible to get up to > speed quickly enough to stay in the draft, and makes it easier to lose > the draft if you have to lift for any reason. > > - not enough tape: this is important when trying to pull out of the > draft and pass, especially without another car helping you. > > - losing the draft, or not having a car drafting with you: if you are > driving around without at least one partner, you are toast. > > - excessive steering input: every time you move the wheel, it scrubs > off a little speed. If you are constantly "correcting" you will bleed > off lots of speed, especially in the turns. Try to be as smooth as > possible. > > - never lift unless absolutely necessary. If you have to lift to make > your car turn, re-examine your driving line and/or setup. The AI cars > generally take the preferred line. > > > HTH, > Gerald Moore > > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>... > > I can't get crap for speed the AI(70%) blows me away, Why? > > Is it my machine or wheel or what, the AI at 90% would be a joke, any > > logical explanations?

what speeds should I be running there as a benchmark? "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Eldj7.192549$[email hidden]... > Must be a calibration problem. My wife could beat the AI at Tally @ 70%.You > can't be getting a full range on your accelerator pedal. > > If the wheel is new, make sure it is calibrated properly, in Windoze andN4.

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> Look at the numbers for your brake pedal (In N4 calibration), are the gas > pedal's numbers remotely close, especially on the high end? If not therein > is your problem. > > If the wheel is old, i would suspect a bad pot. > > If not, I'd return it for a working unit. > > > > > Gerald Moore <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > There could be a number of explanations. Here's what springs to mind: > > > > - make sure your controller is properly calibrated. I ran a race once > > and the car just WOULD NOT come up to speed. Turns out, there was > > some junk wedged in the gas pedal that prevented me from getting full > > throttle. > > > > > > You should be able to smoke the AI with even the default setups at > > 70%, but here are some other somewhat less likely contenders: > > > > - too steep of a rear gear: this will make it impossible to get up to > > speed quickly enough to stay in the draft, and makes it easier to lose > > the draft if you have to lift for any reason. > > > > - not enough tape: this is important when trying to pull out of the > > draft and pass, especially without another car helping you. > > > > - losing the draft, or not having a car drafting with you: if you are > > driving around without at least one partner, you are toast. > > > > - excessive steering input: every time you move the wheel, it scrubs > > off a little speed. If you are constantly "correcting" you will bleed > > off lots of speed, especially in the turns. Try to be as smooth as > > possible. > > > > - never lift unless absolutely necessary. If you have to lift to make > > your car turn, re-examine your driving line and/or setup. The AI cars > > generally take the preferred line. > > > > > > HTH, > > Gerald Moore > > > > > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:<[email hidden]>... > > > I can't get crap for speed the AI(70%) blows me away, Why? > > > Is it my machine or wheel or what, the AI at 90% would be a joke, any > > > logical explanations? > >

You should be able to run 185 - 186 without the benefit of a draft, 192 - 194 or more in a draft. Don't forget, track temperature affects top speeds too. The cooler it is, the less dense the atmosphere, and the higher the speeds. Check out our web site for set ups - www.torn8oalley.com T-Man #66 [email hidden] "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> what speeds should I be running there as a benchmark? > > > "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Eldj7.192549$[email hidden]... > > Must be a calibration problem. My wife could beat the AI at Tally @ 70%. > You > > can't be getting a full range on your accelerator pedal. > > > > If the wheel is new, make sure it is calibrated properly, in Windoze and > N4. > > Look at the numbers for your brake pedal (In N4 calibration), are the

gas > > pedal's numbers remotely close, especially on the high end? If nottherein

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> > is your problem. > > > > If the wheel is old, i would suspect a bad pot. > > > > If not, I'd return it for a working unit. > > > > > > > > > > Gerald Moore <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > There could be a number of explanations. Here's what springs to mind: > > > > > > - make sure your controller is properly calibrated. I ran a race once > > > and the car just WOULD NOT come up to speed. Turns out, there was > > > some junk wedged in the gas pedal that prevented me from getting full > > > throttle. > > > > > > > > > You should be able to smoke the AI with even the default setups at > > > 70%, but here are some other somewhat less likely contenders: > > > > > > - too steep of a rear gear: this will make it impossible to get up to > > > speed quickly enough to stay in the draft, and makes it easier to lose > > > the draft if you have to lift for any reason. > > > > > > - not enough tape: this is important when trying to pull out of the > > > draft and pass, especially without another car helping you. > > > > > > - losing the draft, or not having a car drafting with you: if you are > > > driving around without at least one partner, you are toast. > > > > > > - excessive steering input: every time you move the wheel, it scrubs > > > off a little speed. If you are constantly "correcting" you will bleed > > > off lots of speed, especially in the turns. Try to be as smooth as > > > possible. > > > > > > - never lift unless absolutely necessary. If you have to lift to make > > > your car turn, re-examine your driving line and/or setup. The AI cars > > > generally take the preferred line. > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > Gerald Moore > > > > > > > > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:<[email hidden]>... > > > > I can't get crap for speed the AI(70%) blows me away, Why? > > > > Is it my machine or wheel or what, the AI at 90% would be a joke,

any > > > > logical explanations? > > > > > >

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the cooler air make for a denser atmosphere, so more air is getting to the motor and creating more power? This is the same principle as why old cars with carbs are supposed to run smaller jets in the mountains so they don't flood the motor with the thin air. -- Scott Lyman Mechanical Engineering Student Michigan Technological University "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9PCk7.62903$[email hidden]... > You should be able to run 185 - 186 without the benefit of a draft, 192 - > 194 or more in a draft. Don't forget, track temperature affects top speeds > too. The cooler it is, the less dense the atmosphere, and the higher the > speeds. > > Check out our web site for set ups - www.torn8oalley.com > > T-Man #66 > [email hidden] > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > what speeds should I be running there as a benchmark? > > > > > > "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Eldj7.192549$[email hidden]... > > > Must be a calibration problem. My wife could beat the AI at Tally @ 70%. > > You > > > can't be getting a full range on your accelerator pedal. > > > > > > If the wheel is new, make sure it is calibrated properly, in Windoze and > > N4. > > > Look at the numbers for your brake pedal (In N4 calibration), are the > gas > > > pedal's numbers remotely close, especially on the high end? If not > therein > > > is your problem. > > > > > > If the wheel is old, i would suspect a bad pot. > > > > > > If not, I'd return it for a working unit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerald Moore <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > There could be a number of explanations. Here's what springs to mind: > > > > > > > > - make sure your controller is properly calibrated. I ran a race once > > > > and the car just WOULD NOT come up to speed. Turns out, there was > > > > some junk wedged in the gas pedal that prevented me from getting full > > > > throttle. > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be able to smoke the AI with even the default setups at > > > > 70%, but here are some other somewhat less likely contenders: > > > > > > > > - too steep of a rear gear: this will make it impossible to get up to > > > > speed quickly enough to stay in the draft, and makes it easier to lose > > > > the draft if you have to lift for any reason. > > > > > > > > - not enough tape: this is important when trying to pull out of the > > > > draft and pass, especially without another car helping you. > > > > > > > > - losing the draft, or not having a car drafting with you: if you are > > > > driving around without at least one partner, you are toast. > > > > > > > > - excessive steering input: every time you move the wheel, it scrubs > > > > off a little speed. If you are constantly "correcting" you will bleed > > > > off lots of speed, especially in the turns. Try to be as smooth as > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > - never lift unless absolutely necessary. If you have to lift to make > > > > your car turn, re-examine your driving line and/or setup. The AI cars > > > > generally take the preferred line. > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > Gerald Moore > > > > > > > > > > > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:<[email hidden]>... > > > > > I can't get crap for speed the AI(70%) blows me away, Why? > > > > > Is it my machine or wheel or what, the AI at 90% would be a joke, > any > > > > > logical explanations? > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hey Scott: I defer to you. In fact, the more I think about it, I am definitely wrong. But, I think we can agree that the the cooler the track, the higher the average lap speeds are. Witness the difference at the superspeedways when the track temp is at its lowest vs. the higher temps. Thanks again for the correction. T-Man#66 "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9n00fl$4gfj0$[email hidden]...

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> Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the cooler air make for a denser > atmosphere, so more air is getting to the motor and creating more power? > This is the same principle as why old cars with carbs are supposed to run > smaller jets in the mountains so they don't flood the motor with the thin > air. > -- > Scott Lyman > Mechanical Engineering Student > Michigan Technological University > > "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9PCk7.62903$[email hidden]... > > You should be able to run 185 - 186 without the benefit of a draft,

192 - > > 194 or more in a draft. Don't forget, track temperature affects top > speeds > > too. The cooler it is, the less dense the atmosphere, and the higherthe

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> > speeds. > > > > Check out our web site for set ups - www.torn8oalley.com > > > > T-Man #66 > > [email hidden] > > > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > what speeds should I be running there as a benchmark? > > > > > > > > > "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:Eldj7.192549$[email hidden]... > > > > Must be a calibration problem. My wife could beat the AI at Tally @ > 70%. > > > You > > > > can't be getting a full range on your accelerator pedal. > > > > > > > > If the wheel is new, make sure it is calibrated properly, in Windoze > and > > > N4. > > > > Look at the numbers for your brake pedal (In N4 calibration), are

the

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> > gas > > > > pedal's numbers remotely close, especially on the high end? If not > > therein > > > > is your problem. > > > > > > > > If the wheel is old, i would suspect a bad pot. > > > > > > > > If not, I'd return it for a working unit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerald Moore <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > There could be a number of explanations. Here's what springs to > mind: > > > > > > > > > > - make sure your controller is properly calibrated. I ran a race > once > > > > > and the car just WOULD NOT come up to speed. Turns out, there was > > > > > some junk wedged in the gas pedal that prevented me from getting > full > > > > > throttle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be able to smoke the AI with even the default setups at > > > > > 70%, but here are some other somewhat less likely contenders: > > > > > > > > > > - too steep of a rear gear: this will make it impossible to get up > to > > > > > speed quickly enough to stay in the draft, and makes it easier to > lose > > > > > the draft if you have to lift for any reason. > > > > > > > > > > - not enough tape: this is important when trying to pull out of

the

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> > > > > draft and pass, especially without another car helping you. > > > > > > > > > > - losing the draft, or not having a car drafting with you: if you > are > > > > > driving around without at least one partner, you are toast. > > > > > > > > > > - excessive steering input: every time you move the wheel, it

scrubs > > > > > off a little speed. If you are constantly "correcting" you will > bleed > > > > > off lots of speed, especially in the turns. Try to be as smoothas

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> > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > - never lift unless absolutely necessary. If you have to lift to > make > > > > > your car turn, re-examine your driving line and/or setup. The AI > cars > > > > > generally take the preferred line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > Gerald Moore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:<[email hidden]>... > > > > > > I can't get crap for speed the AI(70%) blows me away, Why? > > > > > > Is it my machine or wheel or what, the AI at 90% would be a

joke,

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> > any > > > > > > logical explanations? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Yep T-Man #66, thats about right!! :) T-Man #66 wrote: | You should be able to run 185 - 186 without the benefit of a draft, 192 - | 194 or more in a draft. Don't forget, track temperature affects topspeeds

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| too. The cooler it is, the less dense the atmosphere, and the higher the | speeds. | | Check out our web site for set ups - www.torn8oalley.com | | T-Man #66 | [email hidden]

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Agreed. Too bad you had to try and sound smart by throwing that density stuff in the middle, eh? -- Scott Lyman Mechanical Engineering Student Michigan Technological University "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_wNk7.65014$[email hidden]... > Hey Scott: I defer to you. In fact, the more I think about it, I am > definitely wrong. But, I think we can agree that the the cooler the track, > the higher the average lap speeds are. Witness the difference at the > superspeedways when the track temp is at its lowest vs. the higher temps. > > Thanks again for the correction. > > T-Man#66 > > "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9n00fl$4gfj0$[email hidden]... > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the cooler air make for a denser > > atmosphere, so more air is getting to the motor and creating more power? > > This is the same principle as why old cars with carbs are supposed to run > > smaller jets in the mountains so they don't flood the motor with the thin > > air. > > -- > > Scott Lyman > > Mechanical Engineering Student > > Michigan Technological University > > > > "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9PCk7.62903$[email hidden]... > > > You should be able to run 185 - 186 without the benefit of a draft, > 192 - > > > 194 or more in a draft. Don't forget, track temperature affects top > > speeds > > > too. The cooler it is, the less dense the atmosphere, and the higher > the > > > speeds. > > > > > > Check out our web site for set ups - www.torn8oalley.com > > > > > > T-Man #66 > > > [email hidden] > > > > > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > what speeds should I be running there as a benchmark? > > > > > > > > > > > > "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:Eldj7.192549$[email hidden]... > > > > > Must be a calibration problem. My wife could beat the AI at Tally @ > > 70%. > > > > You > > > > > can't be getting a full range on your accelerator pedal. > > > > > > > > > > If the wheel is new, make sure it is calibrated properly, in Windoze > > and > > > > N4. > > > > > Look at the numbers for your brake pedal (In N4 calibration), are > the > > > gas > > > > > pedal's numbers remotely close, especially on the high end? If not > > > therein > > > > > is your problem. > > > > > > > > > > If the wheel is old, i would suspect a bad pot. > > > > > > > > > > If not, I'd return it for a working unit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerald Moore <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > There could be a number of explanations. Here's what springs to > > mind: > > > > > > > > > > > > - make sure your controller is properly calibrated. I ran a race > > once > > > > > > and the car just WOULD NOT come up to speed. Turns out, there was > > > > > > some junk wedged in the gas pedal that prevented me from getting > > full > > > > > > throttle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be able to smoke the AI with even the default setups at > > > > > > 70%, but here are some other somewhat less likely contenders: > > > > > > > > > > > > - too steep of a rear gear: this will make it impossible to get up > > to > > > > > > speed quickly enough to stay in the draft, and makes it easier to > > lose > > > > > > the draft if you have to lift for any reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > - not enough tape: this is important when trying to pull out of > the > > > > > > draft and pass, especially without another car helping you. > > > > > > > > > > > > - losing the draft, or not having a car drafting with you: if you > > are > > > > > > driving around without at least one partner, you are toast. > > > > > > > > > > > > - excessive steering input: every time you move the wheel, it > scrubs > > > > > > off a little speed. If you are constantly "correcting" you will > > bleed > > > > > > off lots of speed, especially in the turns. Try to be as smooth > as > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > - never lift unless absolutely necessary. If you have to lift to > > make > > > > > > your car turn, re-examine your driving line and/or setup. The AI > > cars > > > > > > generally take the preferred line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > Gerald Moore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:<[email hidden]>... > > > > > > > I can't get crap for speed the AI(70%) blows me away, Why? > > > > > > > Is it my machine or wheel or what, the AI at 90% would be a > joke, > > > any > > > > > > > logical explanations? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I'm sorry? Was only trying to help out. Certainly i am open to being corrected when I am wrong. Wasn't trying to sound smart, and I apologize to anyone who thought otherwise. Did not intend to give anyone the impression that I am all knowing. Heck, I'll be the first to admit that. T-Man #66 "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9n3var$5cb70$[email hidden]...

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> Agreed. Too bad you had to try and sound smart by throwing that density > stuff in the middle, eh? > -- > Scott Lyman > Mechanical Engineering Student > Michigan Technological University > > "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:_wNk7.65014$[email hidden]... > > Hey Scott: I defer to you. In fact, the more I think about it, I am > > definitely wrong. But, I think we can agree that the the cooler the > track, > > the higher the average lap speeds are. Witness the difference at the > > superspeedways when the track temp is at its lowest vs. the higher

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> > > > Thanks again for the correction. > > > > T-Man#66 > > > > "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9n00fl$4gfj0$[email hidden]... > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the cooler air make for a denser > > > atmosphere, so more air is getting to the motor and creating more

power?

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> > > This is the same principle as why old cars with carbs are supposed to > run > > > smaller jets in the mountains so they don't flood the motor with the > thin > > > air. > > > -- > > > Scott Lyman > > > Mechanical Engineering Student > > > Michigan Technological University > > > > > > "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:9PCk7.62903$[email hidden]... > > > > You should be able to run 185 - 186 without the benefit of a draft, > > 192 - > > > > 194 or more in a draft. Don't forget, track temperature affects top > > > speeds > > > > too. The cooler it is, the less dense the atmosphere, and the

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> > the > > > > speeds. > > > > > > > > Check out our web site for set ups - www.torn8oalley.com > > > > > > > > T-Man #66 > > > > [email hidden] > > > > > > > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > what speeds should I be running there as a benchmark? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:Eldj7.192549$[email hidden]... > > > > > > Must be a calibration problem. My wife could beat the AI at

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> @ > > > 70%. > > > > > You > > > > > > can't be getting a full range on your accelerator pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > If the wheel is new, make sure it is calibrated properly, in > Windoze > > > and > > > > > N4. > > > > > > Look at the numbers for your brake pedal (In N4 calibration),

are > > the > > > > gas > > > > > > pedal's numbers remotely close, especially on the high end? Ifnot

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> > > > therein > > > > > > is your problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > If the wheel is old, i would suspect a bad pot. > > > > > > > > > > > > If not, I'd return it for a working unit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerald Moore <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > There could be a number of explanations. Here's what springs

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> > > mind: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - make sure your controller is properly calibrated. I ran a > race > > > once > > > > > > > and the car just WOULD NOT come up to speed. Turns out, there > was > > > > > > > some junk wedged in the gas pedal that prevented me from

getting > > > full > > > > > > > throttle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be able to smoke the AI with even the defaultsetups > at > > > > > > > 70%, but here are some other somewhat less likely contenders: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - too steep of a rear gear: this will make it impossible toget

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> up > > > to > > > > > > > speed quickly enough to stay in the draft, and makes it easier > to > > > lose > > > > > > > the draft if you have to lift for any reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - not enough tape: this is important when trying to pull out

of

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> > the > > > > > > > draft and pass, especially without another car helping you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - losing the draft, or not having a car drafting with you: if > you > > > are > > > > > > > driving around without at least one partner, you are toast. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - excessive steering input: every time you move the wheel, it > > scrubs > > > > > > > off a little speed. If you are constantly "correcting" you

will > > > bleed > > > > > > > off lots of speed, especially in the turns. Try to be assmooth

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> > as > > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - never lift unless absolutely necessary. If you have to lift > to > > > make > > > > > > > your car turn, re-examine your driving line and/or setup. The > AI > > > cars > > > > > > > generally take the preferred line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > > Gerald Moore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:<[email hidden]>... > > > > > > > > I can't get crap for speed the AI(70%) blows me away, Why? > > > > > > > > Is it my machine or wheel or what, the AI at 90% would be a > > joke, > > > > any > > > > > > > > logical explanations? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Don't worry about it, just giving ya some crap. Gotta do what I'm good at...just ask my friends. -- Scott Lyman Mechanical Engineering Student Michigan Technological University "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Eunl7.74211$[email hidden]... > I'm sorry? Was only trying to help out. Certainly i am open to being > corrected when I am wrong. Wasn't trying to sound smart, and I apologize > to anyone who thought otherwise. Did not intend to give anyone the > impression that I am all knowing. Heck, I'll be the first to admit that. > > T-Man #66 > > "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9n3var$5cb70$[email hidden]... > > Agreed. Too bad you had to try and sound smart by throwing that density > > stuff in the middle, eh? > > -- > > Scott Lyman > > Mechanical Engineering Student > > Michigan Technological University > > > > "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:_wNk7.65014$[email hidden]... > > > Hey Scott: I defer to you. In fact, the more I think about it, I am > > > definitely wrong. But, I think we can agree that the the cooler the > > track, > > > the higher the average lap speeds are. Witness the difference at the > > > superspeedways when the track temp is at its lowest vs. the higher > temps. > > > > > > Thanks again for the correction. > > > > > > T-Man#66 > > > > > > "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:9n00fl$4gfj0$[email hidden]... > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the cooler air make for a denser > > > > atmosphere, so more air is getting to the motor and creating more > power? > > > > This is the same principle as why old cars with carbs are supposed to > > run > > > > smaller jets in the mountains so they don't flood the motor with the > > thin > > > > air. > > > > -- > > > > Scott Lyman > > > > Mechanical Engineering Student > > > > Michigan Technological University > > > > > > > > "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:9PCk7.62903$[email hidden]... > > > > > You should be able to run 185 - 186 without the benefit of a draft, > > > 192 - > > > > > 194 or more in a draft. Don't forget, track temperature affects top > > > > speeds > > > > > too. The cooler it is, the less dense the atmosphere, and the > higher > > > the > > > > > speeds. > > > > > > > > > > Check out our web site for set ups - www.torn8oalley.com > > > > > > > > > > T-Man #66 > > > > > [email hidden] > > > > > > > > > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > what speeds should I be running there as a benchmark? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:Eldj7.192549$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > Must be a calibration problem. My wife could beat the AI at > Tally > > @ > > > > 70%. > > > > > > You > > > > > > > can't be getting a full range on your accelerator pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the wheel is new, make sure it is calibrated properly, in > > Windoze > > > > and > > > > > > N4. > > > > > > > Look at the numbers for your brake pedal (In N4 calibration), > are > > > the > > > > > gas > > > > > > > pedal's numbers remotely close, especially on the high end? If > not > > > > > therein > > > > > > > is your problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the wheel is old, i would suspect a bad pot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If not, I'd return it for a working unit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerald Moore <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > There could be a number of explanations. Here's what springs > to > > > > mind: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - make sure your controller is properly calibrated. I ran a > > race > > > > once > > > > > > > > and the car just WOULD NOT come up to speed. Turns out, there > > was > > > > > > > > some junk wedged in the gas pedal that prevented me from > getting > > > > full > > > > > > > > throttle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be able to smoke the AI with even the default > setups > > at > > > > > > > > 70%, but here are some other somewhat less likely contenders: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - too steep of a rear gear: this will make it impossible to > get > > up > > > > to > > > > > > > > speed quickly enough to stay in the draft, and makes it easier > > to > > > > lose > > > > > > > > the draft if you have to lift for any reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - not enough tape: this is important when trying to pull out > of > > > the > > > > > > > > draft and pass, especially without another car helping you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - losing the draft, or not having a car drafting with you: if > > you > > > > are > > > > > > > > driving around without at least one partner, you are toast. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - excessive steering input: every time you move the wheel, it > > > scrubs > > > > > > > > off a little speed. If you are constantly "correcting" you > will > > > > bleed > > > > > > > > off lots of speed, especially in the turns. Try to be as > smooth > > > as > > > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - never lift unless absolutely necessary. If you have to lift > > to > > > > make > > > > > > > > your car turn, re-examine your driving line and/or setup. The > > AI > > > > cars > > > > > > > > generally take the preferred line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > > > Gerald Moore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:<[email hidden]>... > > > > > > > > > I can't get crap for speed the AI(70%) blows me away, Why? > > > > > > > > > Is it my machine or wheel or what, the AI at 90% would be a > > > joke, > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > logical explanations? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

no worries, thanks Scott, I do appreciate the corrections. "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9n8sdq$629hl$[email hidden]...

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> Don't worry about it, just giving ya some crap. Gotta do what I'm good > at...just ask my friends. > -- > Scott Lyman > Mechanical Engineering Student > Michigan Technological University > "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Eunl7.74211$[email hidden]... > > I'm sorry? Was only trying to help out. Certainly i am open to being > > corrected when I am wrong. Wasn't trying to sound smart, and I

apologize > > to anyone who thought otherwise. Did not intend to give anyone the > > impression that I am all knowing. Heck, I'll be the first to admitthat. > > > > T-Man #66 > > > > "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9n3var$5cb70$[email hidden]... > > > Agreed. Too bad you had to try and sound smart by throwing thatdensity

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> > > stuff in the middle, eh? > > > -- > > > Scott Lyman > > > Mechanical Engineering Student > > > Michigan Technological University > > > > > > "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:_wNk7.65014$[email hidden]... > > > > Hey Scott: I defer to you. In fact, the more I think about it, I

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> > > > definitely wrong. But, I think we can agree that the the cooler the > > > track, > > > > the higher the average lap speeds are. Witness the difference at the > > > > superspeedways when the track temp is at its lowest vs. the higher > > temps. > > > > > > > > Thanks again for the correction. > > > > > > > > T-Man#66 > > > > > > > > "Scott Lyman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:9n00fl$4gfj0$[email hidden]... > > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the cooler air make for a > denser > > > > > atmosphere, so more air is getting to the motor and creating more > > power? > > > > > This is the same principle as why old cars with carbs are supposed > to > > > run > > > > > smaller jets in the mountains so they don't flood the motor with

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> > > thin > > > > > air. > > > > > -- > > > > > Scott Lyman > > > > > Mechanical Engineering Student > > > > > Michigan Technological University > > > > > > > > > > "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:9PCk7.62903$[email hidden]... > > > > > > You should be able to run 185 - 186 without the benefit of a > draft, > > > > 192 - > > > > > > 194 or more in a draft. Don't forget, track temperature affects > top > > > > > speeds > > > > > > too. The cooler it is, the less dense the atmosphere, and the > > higher > > > > the > > > > > > speeds. > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out our web site for set ups - www.torn8oalley.com > > > > > > > > > > > > T-Man #66 > > > > > > [email hidden] > > > > > > > > > > > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > what speeds should I be running there as a benchmark? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:Eldj7.192549$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > Must be a calibration problem. My wife could beat the AI at > > Tally > > > @ > > > > > 70%. > > > > > > > You > > > > > > > > can't be getting a full range on your accelerator pedal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the wheel is new, make sure it is calibrated properly, in > > > Windoze > > > > > and > > > > > > > N4. > > > > > > > > Look at the numbers for your brake pedal (In N4

calibration), > > are > > > > the > > > > > > gas > > > > > > > > pedal's numbers remotely close, especially on the high end?If

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> > not > > > > > > therein > > > > > > > > is your problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the wheel is old, i would suspect a bad pot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If not, I'd return it for a working unit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gerald Moore <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > There could be a number of explanations. Here's what > springs > > to > > > > > mind: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - make sure your controller is properly calibrated. I ran

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> > > race > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > and the car just WOULD NOT come up to speed. Turns out, > there > > > was > > > > > > > > > some junk wedged in the gas pedal that prevented me from > > getting > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > throttle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You should be able to smoke the AI with even the default > > setups > > > at > > > > > > > > > 70%, but here are some other somewhat less likely > contenders: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - too steep of a rear gear: this will make it impossible

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> > get > > > up > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > speed quickly enough to stay in the draft, and makes it > easier > > > to > > > > > lose > > > > > > > > > the draft if you have to lift for any reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - not enough tape: this is important when trying to pull

out > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > > > draft and pass, especially without another car helpingyou. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - losing the draft, or not having a car drafting with you: > if > > > you > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > driving around without at least one partner, you aretoast. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - excessive steering input: every time you move the wheel, > it > > > > scrubs > > > > > > > > > off a little speed. If you are constantly "correcting"you

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> > will > > > > > bleed > > > > > > > > > off lots of speed, especially in the turns. Try to be as > > smooth > > > > as > > > > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - never lift unless absolutely necessary. If you have to > lift > > > to > > > > > make > > > > > > > > > your car turn, re-examine your driving line and/or setup. > The > > > AI > > > > > cars > > > > > > > > > generally take the preferred line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > > > > Gerald Moore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Zulcar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:<[email hidden]>... > > > > > > > > > > I can't get crap for speed the AI(70%) blows me away,

Why? > > > > > > > > > > Is it my machine or wheel or what, the AI at 90% wouldbe

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> a > > > > joke, > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > logical explanations? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >