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OT - New HDD

10 posts by 8 people · 29 Aug 2001 14:56 UTC - 03 Sep 2001 13:17 UTC

Beckett Richard-qswi266 29 Aug 2001 14:56 UTC#164880
Guys, Gonna get a new hard disk :-) Last time I did this, I was running win 3.11, so I did the following: 1. Removed the old disk, and fitted new disk, set to master. 2. Booted from floppy. 3. Ran fdisk, and formatted the new one as a bootable system disk. 4. Set the new disk to slave, and fitted the old as master. 5. Copied everything from old onto new. 6. Removed old disk, and refitted new one set to master again. Once complete, my system ran fine and looked identical to the old one. I have a feeling that step 5 is not going to work properly with win 98. Is there anything I can do similar to the above? I _really_ don't want to have to do a clean install. Also...can anyone tell me what's the deal with UDMA100 cables? I got a new Mobo, so I used the new HDD cable that came with it on my old disk and it worked. Do I need a different cable, or should I use the same new cable supplied? I have disk caddies, too, which use a short length of cable from the HDD to the cartridge. Will I need to replace this internal caddy cable, or will I need UDMA100 compatible caddies? Thanks. R. -- Posted from ftpbox.mot.com [129.188.136.101] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG
Riichard with win98 I would recommend getting a copy of a drivecopying software to copy your drive then you would not have to format the software would copy the track and sector not just the files making sure you get all tracks. Beckett Richard-qswi266 wrote:
Quoted text (35 lines)> Guys, > > Gonna get a new hard disk :-) > > Last time I did this, I was running win 3.11, so I did the following: > > 1. Removed the old disk, and fitted new disk, set to master. > 2. Booted from floppy. > 3. Ran fdisk, and formatted the new one as a bootable system disk. > 4. Set the new disk to slave, and fitted the old as master. > 5. Copied everything from old onto new. > 6. Removed old disk, and refitted new one set to master again. > > Once complete, my system ran fine and looked identical to the old one. > > I have a feeling that step 5 is not going to work properly with win 98. Is > there anything I can do similar to the above? I _really_ don't want to have > to do a clean install. > > Also...can anyone tell me what's the deal with UDMA100 cables? I got a new > Mobo, so I used the new HDD cable that came with it on my old disk and it > worked. Do I need a different cable, or should I use the same new cable > supplied? > > I have disk caddies, too, which use a short length of cable from the HDD to > the cartridge. Will I need to replace this internal caddy cable, or will I > need UDMA100 compatible caddies? > > Thanks. > > R. > > -- > Posted from ftpbox.mot.com [129.188.136.101] > via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG
forgot to give you some samples of software to get the best is by powerquest they have 2 different ones they have DriveCopy and also Drive Image the other one that comes to mind is Ghost by Nortons. Beckett Richard-qswi266 wrote:
Quoted text (35 lines)> Guys, > > Gonna get a new hard disk :-) > > Last time I did this, I was running win 3.11, so I did the following: > > 1. Removed the old disk, and fitted new disk, set to master. > 2. Booted from floppy. > 3. Ran fdisk, and formatted the new one as a bootable system disk. > 4. Set the new disk to slave, and fitted the old as master. > 5. Copied everything from old onto new. > 6. Removed old disk, and refitted new one set to master again. > > Once complete, my system ran fine and looked identical to the old one. > > I have a feeling that step 5 is not going to work properly with win 98. Is > there anything I can do similar to the above? I _really_ don't want to have > to do a clean install. > > Also...can anyone tell me what's the deal with UDMA100 cables? I got a new > Mobo, so I used the new HDD cable that came with it on my old disk and it > worked. Do I need a different cable, or should I use the same new cable > supplied? > > I have disk caddies, too, which use a short length of cable from the HDD to > the cartridge. Will I need to replace this internal caddy cable, or will I > need UDMA100 compatible caddies? > > Thanks. > > R. > > -- > Posted from ftpbox.mot.com [129.188.136.101] > via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG
Support <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > You should only need the UDMA100 cables for the UDMA100 drives.Standard IDE > cables will be fine for the older drives. They'll work on theUDMA100 drives as > well, but you'll loose speed and functionality. > > If you don't want to buy disk duplicating software to copy the data,for Step > 5, try opening a DOS window (-not- re-starting in DOS mode) andtype: > > xcopy32 c:\*.* d:\ /h /e /c /k What happens if you do a 'DOS boot' instead? Just curious, Jonny
"Jonny Hodgson" > What happens if you do a 'DOS boot' instead? > > Just curious, > Jonny dunno about a dos boot but I DO know what happens in Das Boot...... dave henrie
If you do a DOS boot all your long file names will be converted to short files names as in C:\Program Files will become C:\Progra~1 and this is not good. You have to use the xcopy32 command. I tend to take the xcopy32 command one step further. xcopy32 c:\*.* d:\*.* /s/e/c/i/h/r/k I have never had any trouble with this type of copy. Also it is much easier to install the new drive as the slave and the old drive as master, then boot win98, do your fdisk, reboot, format and do the xcopy32. Then shut down and move the slave to master and master to slave and boot again and all SHOULD work fine (unless you want to remove the old drive then just set it to CS and be done with it. SLG "Jonny Hodgson" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (22 lines)> >Support <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> You should only need the UDMA100 cables for the UDMA100 drives. >Standard IDE >> cables will be fine for the older drives. They'll work on the >UDMA100 drives as >> well, but you'll loose speed and functionality. >> >> If you don't want to buy disk duplicating software to copy the data, >for Step >> 5, try opening a DOS window (-not- re-starting in DOS mode) and >type: >> >> xcopy32 c:\*.* d:\ /h /e /c /k > >What happens if you do a 'DOS boot' instead? > >Just curious, >Jonny > >
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BOth Western Digital and Maxtor have available for d/l from their websites disk copying utils that work flawlessly, I bleieve if you use one of the 2 utils, you only have to fit the disks into the pc once, puttting the new one as primary master right from the start.... -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Beckett Richard-qswi266 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Guys, > > Gonna get a new hard disk :-) > > Last time I did this, I was running win 3.11, so I did the following: > > 1. Removed the old disk, and fitted new disk, set to master. > 2. Booted from floppy. > 3. Ran fdisk, and formatted the new one as a bootable system disk. > 4. Set the new disk to slave, and fitted the old as master. > 5. Copied everything from old onto new. > 6. Removed old disk, and refitted new one set to master again. > > Once complete, my system ran fine and looked identical to the old one. > > I have a feeling that step 5 is not going to work properly with win 98. Is > there anything I can do similar to the above? I _really_ don't want to have > to do a clean install. > > Also...can anyone tell me what's the deal with UDMA100 cables? I got a new > Mobo, so I used the new HDD cable that came with it on my old disk and it > worked. Do I need a different cable, or should I use the same new cable > supplied? > > I have disk caddies, too, which use a short length of cable from the HDD to > the cartridge. Will I need to replace this internal caddy cable, or will I > need UDMA100 compatible caddies? > > Thanks. > > R. > > > -- > Posted from ftpbox.mot.com [129.188.136.101] > via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG
Thanks guys. Looks like Maxtor have just the utility I need. I just checked which HDD I'll be getting, and it _is_ a maxtor! Is there anything that r.a.s doesn't know?! ;-) R. -- Posted from wwwgate161.motorola.com [62.172.156.90] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG
In article <[email hidden]>, "Beckett Richard-qswi266" <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (18 lines)>Guys, > >Gonna get a new hard disk :-) > >Last time I did this, I was running win 3.11, so I did the following: > >1. Removed the old disk, and fitted new disk, set to master. >2. Booted from floppy. >3. Ran fdisk, and formatted the new one as a bootable system disk. >4. Set the new disk to slave, and fitted the old as master. >5. Copied everything from old onto new. >6. Removed old disk, and refitted new one set to master again. > >Once complete, my system ran fine and looked identical to the old one. > >I have a feeling that step 5 is not going to work properly with win 98. Is >there anything I can do similar to the above? I _really_ don't want to have >to do a clean install.
If you can get the new drive to work as the slave drive, try this: Run windows, run the command prompt(DOS window). Run FDISK. Exit, shutdown, then reboot. In windows again, go to windows explorer, and format the slave drive. After it finishes, go to the command prompt again. Assuming your master drive is C: and the slave is D: type the following: xcopy32 c: d: /c/h/e/r/k This will copy ALL files and ignore any errors you may get. When it finishes, remove the old drive, connect the new one as master. Make sure the BIOS has the right drive type, and start it up again. If it doesn't start correctly, put the old drive in, format a floppy as a boot disk, and copy fdisk.exe to it. Connect the new drive again, then use the floppy to set the partition to 'active'. I've done the above procedure SEVERAL times, and it's worked fine. I don't have to beg/borrow/buy/steal any special software to do it. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
> Guys, > > Gonna get a new hard disk :-) 1) Plug it in with the old one 2) format (/s) & partition it. 3) Make a folder on new one called 'Windows' 4) Drag contents of your existing Windows folder into it EXCLUDING WIN386.SWP 5) Drag rest of c:\ files into root of new drive 6) Switch off, remove old drive. Chnge new to master 7) boot from floppy and fdisk - change new drive's first partition to Active 8) Reboot, test and rejoice. Done it many times. (Install the old drive as a slave, but don't wipe it until you're happy with the new one) Cheers Simon --- o Author of yBook (eText reader) and Freecharts SE (Stock Charting) Download FREE from http://www.spacejock.com o Author of 'Hal Spacejock' - ISBN 1-877034-00-2 (AUD$15.95) Order now from http://www.spacejock.com
Quoted text (14 lines)> > Last time I did this, I was running win 3.11, so I did the following: > > 1. Removed the old disk, and fitted new disk, set to master. > 2. Booted from floppy. > 3. Ran fdisk, and formatted the new one as a bootable system disk. > 4. Set the new disk to slave, and fitted the old as master. > 5. Copied everything from old onto new. > 6. Removed old disk, and refitted new one set to master again. > > Once complete, my system ran fine and looked identical to the old one. > > I have a feeling that step 5 is not going to work properly with win 98. Is > there anything I can do similar to the above? I _really_ don't want to
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Quoted text (8 lines)> to do a clean install. > > Also...can anyone tell me what's the deal with UDMA100 cables? I got a new > Mobo, so I used the new HDD cable that came with it on my old disk and it > worked. Do I need a different cable, or should I use the same new cable > supplied? > > I have disk caddies, too, which use a short length of cable from the HDD
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Quoted text (11 lines)> the cartridge. Will I need to replace this internal caddy cable, or will I > need UDMA100 compatible caddies? > > Thanks. > > R. > > > -- > Posted from ftpbox.mot.com [129.188.136.101] > via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

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