Re: Too Much Memory?

If your using Win2000 it should be an issue. If your using Win95 or (8 then there is a known problem. You need to set the max cache to 512MB. I forget the exact setting but if you do a search I'm sure you can find it. "Brian McLernon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:im8m7.48551$[email hidden]... > Hi All, > With ram so cheap nowadays, I recently added a third 256Mb SDRAM stick > to my photo/gaming computer, bringing my total up to 768Mb from 512Mb. At > 512Mb all my sims run great (GPL, N Heat, F1CS2k, N3, N4). Once I addedthe > third stick, all my other programs (Photoshop, etc.) run fine but all my > sims crash or lock up at some point in their start up (with the exceptionof > N4, which, doh! I didn't think to try!) I think I've heard of thisproblem

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> with GPL but not the others. Can anyone shed some light on what may be > causing this for me? > > Thanks! > > -Brian Mc > >

Hi All, With ram so cheap nowadays, I recently added a third 256Mb SDRAM stick to my photo/gaming computer, bringing my total up to 768Mb from 512Mb. At 512Mb all my sims run great (GPL, N Heat, F1CS2k, N3, N4). Once I added the third stick, all my other programs (Photoshop, etc.) run fine but all my sims crash or lock up at some point in their start up (with the exception of N4, which, doh! I didn't think to try!) I think I've heard of this problem with GPL but not the others. Can anyone shed some light on what may be causing this for me? Thanks! -Brian Mc

Are you sure it's the right kind of memory? I had the same problem with my machine. I had pc133 in it and I bought another stick of what I thought was pc133, but it was pc100. I had so many freak problems with my machine until I figured it out. Todd On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 18:29:34 GMT, "Brian McLernon" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi All, > With ram so cheap nowadays, I recently added a third 256Mb SDRAM stick >to my photo/gaming computer, bringing my total up to 768Mb from 512Mb. At >512Mb all my sims run great (GPL, N Heat, F1CS2k, N3, N4). Once I added the >third stick, all my other programs (Photoshop, etc.) run fine but all my >sims crash or lock up at some point in their start up (with the exception of >N4, which, doh! I didn't think to try!) I think I've heard of this problem >with GPL but not the others. Can anyone shed some light on what may be >causing this for me? > >Thanks! > >-Brian Mc >

Sorry, I should have sent my specs: System: Windows 98SE AMD Athlom 1.2 GB 512MB SDRam PC133 Asus A7A266 DDR/SDR mobo Asus AGP V7100 64MB Pro T SB Live Value 5.1 40 & 20 GB IBM HDs DirectX 8.0 Thanks, -Brian Mc "Brian McLernon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:im8m7.48551$[email hidden]... > Hi All, > With ram so cheap nowadays, I recently added a third 256Mb SDRAM stick > to my photo/gaming computer, bringing my total up to 768Mb from 512Mb. At > 512Mb all my sims run great (GPL, N Heat, F1CS2k, N3, N4). Once I addedthe > third stick, all my other programs (Photoshop, etc.) run fine but all my > sims crash or lock up at some point in their start up (with the exceptionof > N4, which, doh! I didn't think to try!) I think I've heard of thisproblem

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> with GPL but not the others. Can anyone shed some light on what may be > causing this for me? > > Thanks! > > -Brian Mc > >

Go long as all the memory is the same speed, and you have had it checked so that there are no faults or hard errors. Then you have to set the vcache. Goto http://www.speedguide.net under windows tweaks and look for the info on setting the vcache in your system.ini file. That's what I had to do, with a very similar system. I can run all sims with no lock ups. "Brian McLernon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bA8m7.48654$[email hidden]...

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> Sorry, I should have sent my specs: > System: > > Windows 98SE > AMD Athlom 1.2 GB > 512MB SDRam PC133 > Asus A7A266 DDR/SDR mobo > Asus AGP V7100 64MB Pro T > SB Live Value 5.1 > 40 & 20 GB IBM HDs > DirectX 8.0 > > Thanks, > -Brian Mc > > > "Brian McLernon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:im8m7.48551$[email hidden]... > > Hi All, > > With ram so cheap nowadays, I recently added a third 256Mb SDRAM

stick > > to my photo/gaming computer, bringing my total up to 768Mb from 512Mb.At > > 512Mb all my sims run great (GPL, N Heat, F1CS2k, N3, N4). Once I added > the > > third stick, all my other programs (Photoshop, etc.) run fine but all my > > sims crash or lock up at some point in their start up (with theexception

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> of > > N4, which, doh! I didn't think to try!) I think I've heard of this > problem > > with GPL but not the others. Can anyone shed some light on what may be > > causing this for me? > > > > Thanks! > > > > -Brian Mc > > > > > >

"Brian McLernon" <[email hidden]> writes:

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> Hi All, > With ram so cheap nowadays, I recently added a third 256Mb SDRAM stick > to my photo/gaming computer, bringing my total up to 768Mb from 512Mb. At > 512Mb all my sims run great (GPL, N Heat, F1CS2k, N3, N4). Once I added the > third stick, all my other programs (Photoshop, etc.) run fine but all my > sims crash or lock up at some point in their start up (with the exception of > N4, which, doh! I didn't think to try!) I think I've heard of this problem > with GPL but not the others. Can anyone shed some light on what may be > causing this for me?

do you know how much memory your mainboard can cache? -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 silence is FOO!

"Gunnar Horrigmo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > do you know how much memory your mainboard can cache? On an Athlon, that's not an issue, since the L2 cache is onboard the Athlon itself. Athlon's L2 is capable of caching upto 4GB. Yousuf Khan

Wrong. Friend of mine put 1.4 gigs of ram on his AMD 1.33 system. After 700mb of ram used (opened a bunch of progs) the system ran out of memory even though only 43% of the ram was being used. Its the cache that limits how much ram you can use. Sure the MB supports it but the processor cache is what limits it. I saw it for myself. Charlie Buscher "Yousuf Khan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NPtm7.128278$[email hidden]... > "Gunnar Horrigmo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > do you know how much memory your mainboard can cache? > > On an Athlon, that's not an issue, since the L2 cache is onboard theAthlon > itself. Athlon's L2 is capable of caching upto 4GB. > > Yousuf Khan > >

In article <BnMm7.7748$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Wrong. Friend of mine put 1.4 gigs of ram on his AMD 1.33 system. After > 700mb of ram used (opened a bunch of progs) the system ran out of memory > even though only 43% of the ram was being used. I don't think it is the processor cache that is the problem. That is constantly refreshed using an LRU algorithm to discard the oldest data. Even the old mainboards that could only cache 64 meg of RAM would continue to operate. They just wouldn't cache the additional memory, causing access to it to be slower. With modern boards, all of the supported memory is cached. With 32 bit boards and processors, up to 2 gig could be supported. I'd bet that if you look, you'd find that Windows allocated about half of the RAM to a disk cache. This makes it unavailable for use by the processes. There are utilities that can reduce the value and make more RAM available to applications. Windows NT introduces a different problem. Only memory that is backed by paging space can be committed. Additional RAM beyond the size of the paging space is automatically assigned to disk cache. The minimum paging space should be equal to available RAM plus an additional 12 meg that is required by the operating system. -- Regards, Jim Henry

if you are using win9x, you have to increase your vcache size. otherwise win tries to grab the entire 768, causing probs for other apps. from my memory, go into sys.ini, add line under [386 enh] maxvcache= (the byte equivalent of 512MB). ms support pages explain. Hunnar Horrigmo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Brian McLernon" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > Hi All, > > With ram so cheap nowadays, I recently added a third 256Mb SDRAMstick > > to my photo/gaming computer, bringing my total up to 768Mb from 512Mb.At > > 512Mb all my sims run great (GPL, N Heat, F1CS2k, N3, N4). Once I addedthe > > third stick, all my other programs (Photoshop, etc.) run fine but all my > > sims crash or lock up at some point in their start up (with theexception of > > N4, which, doh! I didn't think to try!) I think I've heard of thisproblem

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> > with GPL but not the others. Can anyone shed some light on what may be > > causing this for me? > > do you know how much memory your mainboard can cache? > > > -- > Gunnar > #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 > silence is FOO!

What OS? Charlie Buscher wrote:

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> Wrong. Friend of mine put 1.4 gigs of ram on his AMD 1.33 system. After > 700mb of ram used (opened a bunch of progs) the system ran out of memory > even though only 43% of the ram was being used. Its the cache that limits > how much ram you can use. Sure the MB supports it but the processor cache is > what limits it. I saw it for myself. > > Charlie Buscher > > "Yousuf Khan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:NPtm7.128278$[email hidden]... > > "Gunnar Horrigmo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > do you know how much memory your mainboard can cache? > > > > On an Athlon, that's not an issue, since the L2 cache is onboard the > Athlon > > itself. Athlon's L2 is capable of caching upto 4GB. > > > > Yousuf Khan > > > >

Thanks to everyone who replied for all your help. I went to that site btgoss recommended and applied the lines to my system.ini file regarding vcache after I reinstalled the new 256mb stick, also changed my virtual mem settings as they suggest. Now, all my sims (N3, N4, NHeat, F12000, and F12000CS all run great!!! I'm even noticing more detail (transparent, glowing track lites at Richmond & Bristol that wasn't there before) while framerates have stayed the same. Also, I was noticing in F12000CS and F12000 (before the memory fixes) that I'd see the track ahead being drawn, but now it's already there when I round a corner! Awesome!!! Thankyouthankyouthankyou! Only problem is, GPL still won't work. It loads OK, but when I go to race a track, it says: "Could not initialize the replay system" and cancels the weekend. Would reinstalling GPL fix it? Or is there some GPL setting that needs to be changed? Thanks again for all the assistance! -Brian Mc