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okay sports fans, i want to know what your favorite racing games are. in the past month i got a 1.4 athlon fully loaded, and decided that it was time to buy a racing wheel. i've always wanted one, and now that i was no longer running a P2/333 i could seriously get into some games. so i picked up a microsoft sidewinder precision wheel and pedals for a ninety bucks and NASCAR 2000 for $9.99, and to tell the truth, i don't think i've ever had more fun with a computer in my life, and i've been using them for nearly 15 years. i should have bought a wheel ages ago, though i have a feeling USB has really let game controllers shine. then i was let on to this newsgroup, and i've learned a lot more. from what i've been lead to believe, NASCAR 2000 is a great game, but there are many, many better ones out there. i've asked around before, but haven't compiled any lists. i've also been playing the Porsche Unleashed demo pretty constantly, and loving it. so what are people's favorites? i dig NASCAR and formula one racing, but i think getting into rally racing on the pc would be a frigging blast. people in here talk favourably about "GPL", whatever it is, like it's the greatest racing game ever, so i'm probably interested. any input appreciated. -- i am not a crackpot

On Sat, 08 Sep 2001 22:54:03 GMT, "j a m e s" <[email hidden]> wrote: >any input appreciated. These are some of the must-have racing sims: Grand Prix Legends Nascar 4 Mercedes Benz Truck Racing Grand Prix 3 2000 F1 Racing Championship F1 Championship Season 2000 Rally Championship 2000 Viper Racing The rest is arcade crap :) Andre

Rally Masters is NOT crap!!!!! (notice I didn't mention anything about arcade) Rally Masters online is a serious blast. I haven't touched gpl for a few days.. Curtis "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > On Sat, 08 Sep 2001 22:54:03 GMT, "j a m e s" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >any input appreciated. > > These are some of the must-have racing sims: > > Grand Prix Legends > Nascar 4 > Mercedes Benz Truck Racing > Grand Prix 3 2000 > F1 Racing Championship > F1 Championship Season 2000 > Rally Championship 2000 > Viper Racing > > The rest is arcade crap :) > > Andre

Five (actually, six) to add to that list... STCC2 (control problems for some, but still best touring car sim by a nautical mile). GP3 + GP3 2K add-on Need for Speed: Porshe Unleashed SBK2001 DTR-SC / Leadfoot (personal weak spot... a discipline I aspire to master) Titles to look out for: Rally Trophy F1 2001 WSC Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "Andre Warringa" wrote...

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> These are some of the must-have racing sims: > > Grand Prix Legends > Nascar 4 > Mercedes Benz Truck Racing > Grand Prix 3 2000 > F1 Racing Championship > F1 Championship Season 2000 > Rally Championship 2000 > Viper Racing > > The rest is arcade crap :)

Let's see you last a week... <g> Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "imaswinger" wrote... > Rally Masters is NOT crap!!!!! > > (notice I didn't mention anything about arcade) > > Rally Masters online is a serious blast. I haven't touched > gpl for a few days..

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> so what are people's favorites? i dig NASCAR and formula one > racing, but i think getting into rally racing on the pc would be a > frigging blast. people in here talk favourably about "GPL", > whatever it is, like it's the greatest racing game ever, so i'm > probably interested. > > any input appreciated.

Right then. First, I have to admit that I hate NASCAR, so I won't give any advice regarding that, except to say that NASCAR 4 is generally judged to be a fine piece of kit. I have no idea about bike sims, either On proper car racing (by which I mean racing with right turns), however, I can give you my prejudices, for what they're worth... "GPL, whatever it is", is Grand Prix Legends, a simulation (note that word) of the 1967 F1 season. It's staggeringly brilliant, and by far the most addictive sim I've ever played. Be warned: it demands, and will relentlessly extract, total commitment. If you're not willing to spend several hours (yes, hours) just getting round one lap at something like racing speed, this is not the game for you. To say the learning curve is steep would be like saying the Pope was quite religious. On the other hand, if you are willing to put in the very considerable effort GPL demands, you'll be handsomely rewarded. Getting it just right is more satisfying in this game than in any other I've played, especially online, where (current - hopefully temporary - server problems permitting) you'll find one of the best driving experiences anywhere, and one a lot cleaner and more polite than... well, N4, for example. A surprising number of people think GPL will be boringly slow. Anything but, in fact - tuned properly, these cars can do 200mph, and around a fast circuit such as Spa (the 8-mile version, of course) you can easily average 150-plus. It's not perfect, of course - tyre wear isn't simulated, the AI cars can't slipstream and you can't really do pitstops - but that's more than compensated for by the huge user community, which produces tracks (some easily as good as the originals - Solitude and Le Mans are masterpieces), sounds, graphics, guides, ranking systems... you name it, it's there. The main problem with GPL is getting hold of it. It came out in 1998 (yep, it's *still* that good after three years), and not many of us feel like letting go of our copies, so you'll have to rummage in bargain bins a bit, or check eBay and the like. It is cheap, though. OK, now I've stopped raving about GPL (it does get you like that), what else? On the rallying front I'd go for Rally Masters, which has a nice balance between realism and playability (as they say in the games mags) and can be a real blast. Lots of choice of car and competition - definitely a title to look out for. Rally Championship 2000 (or whatever it's called in your neck of the woods) is lovely to look at, and has loads of options, but the handling is weird. The Colin McRae series are fun, but rather arcadey. Modern F1? F1 Championship Season 2000 is probably the best of a not terribly outstanding bunch. Certainly it's better than its predecessor F1-2000. Grand Prix 3 has outstanding weather effects - unfortunately not a lot else has changed since GP2. F1 Racing Sim/Championship/whatever has faded into obscurity after a bright early showing. Others? I prefer TOCA2 to STCC2, despite TOCA's arcadey setup - it's just more fun when you're bashing up drivers you've heard of! NFS:Porsche 2000 (as it's called in the UK) you know about from the demo - get the full game, as it's very good. Mercedes-Benz Truck Racing is more fun than it might sound. And - if you do a bit of work on the setup first - Spirit of Speed 1937, despite falling well below expectations, is not the complete and utter pile of ordure that its demo is. Viper Racing I *still* haven't got around to buying - shame on me! Conclusions: spend 10 quid/bucks on GPL, and play it until your house is so full of grime you can't see any more. Clean up the section of grime near your PC, and carry on. -- "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. What was he on about? See http://www.shelsley-walsh.co.uk Banish those hardwood floors! http://www.carpetfoundation.com

On 9 Sep 2001 01:28:06 GMT, [email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote: > And - if you do a bit of work on the >setup first - Spirit of Speed 1937, despite falling well below >expectations, is not the complete and utter pile of ordure that its >demo is. Kind words for SoS. And, believe it or not, the demo responds as well as the full title to setup. The setup involves downloading a configuration utility from here: http://home.att.net/~stickworks/ The direct download URL is: http://home.att.net/~stickworks/ctfjv320.zip Then go here to see how it should be set up: http://www.gamesdomain.com/gdreview/depart/mar01/stick.html There is a forum at High Gear for SoS and there is an Offline Racing League forming under the banner of the First Annual Spirit of Speed Challenge. Download custom scenarios and try your luck behind the wheel of the Iron Ghosts that moved motor racing from curiosity to sport. By the way, if you do download the SoS demo, the StickWorks utility will work with it, too. Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

"David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > j a m e s <[email hidden]> wrote on 08 Sep 2001: > > F1 Racing > Sim/Championship/whatever has faded into obscurity after a bright early > showing. Where do you get this nonsense? About 550 people have already signed up at the just opened F1RC Relay site http://f1rcrelay.com/LDrivers.asp , and it's still the most posted to forum at HG. Tons of add-ons too. David G Fisher

My personal favorite is still Sports Car GT. I am hesitant to recommend it because it is a bit buggy and to really get the most out of it you need to spend some time downloading patches and add-ons, but it is still the only decent simulation of sports car racing that I have been able to find for the PC. Right now I have a custom .exe file set up that changes the classes to be more like the current LeMans Series classes, and I have downloaded a bunch of LMP cars to race with. There is no other decent simulation of LMP racing for the PC. Conversions are also available for Touring Cars, Rally cars, and even drag racing. I also like Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed. It's more arcadey, but still a lot of fun. My two cents, Hal "j a m e s" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fkxm7.51658$[email hidden]... > > okay sports fans, i want to know what your favorite racing games are. > > in the past month i got a 1.4 athlon fully loaded, and decided that itwas > time to buy a racing wheel. i've always wanted one, and now that iwas no > longer running a P2/333 i could seriously get into some games. so ipicked > up a microsoft sidewinder precision wheel and pedals for a ninetybucks and > NASCAR 2000 for $9.99, and to tell the truth, i don't think i've everhad > more fun with a computer in my life, and i've been using them fornearly 15 > years. i should have bought a wheel ages ago, though i have a feelingUSB > has really let game controllers shine. then i was let on to thisnewsgroup, > and i've learned a lot more. > > from what i've been lead to believe, NASCAR 2000 is a great game, butthere > are many, many better ones out there. i've asked around before, buthaven't > compiled any lists. i've also been playing the Porsche Unleashed demo > pretty constantly, and loving it. > > so what are people's favorites? i dig NASCAR and formula one racing,but i > think getting into rally racing on the pc would be a frigging blast.people > in here talk favourably about "GPL", whatever it is, like it's thegreatest

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> racing game ever, so i'm probably interested. > > any input appreciated. > > > > > -- > i am not a crackpot > >

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > Where do you get this nonsense? There is absolutely no support by Ubisoft for F1RC. The statement is true, it has faded out. The company doesn't want to support it's customers, it's a shame. It had a bright future if many things would had been fixed, but it did not. Therefore, it faded out. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Faded out of what? WTF are you two talking about? This is the type of sh*t which ispires me to bust the (tiny) balls of some of you. There's a hell of a lot more people sitting down to play F1RC on their computers than there is for most sims. Keep talking nonsense though. David G Fisher "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:F1Bm7.33085$[email hidden]... > >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Where do you get this nonsense? > > > There is absolutely no support by Ubisoft for F1RC. The statement istrue, > it has faded out. The company doesn't want to support it's customers,it's > a shame. It had a bright future if many things would had been fixed, butit

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> did not. Therefore, it faded out. > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > Faded out of what? WTF are you two talking about? This is the type of sh*t > which ispires me to bust the (tiny) balls of some of you. When you show some respect, you'll be able to argue correctly. Or else, you just lower yourself to George Ojeda or Derek Smart standards. I wrote that in another NG about somebody who is about the same type as you. Every threads he's involved are flame threads. Perhaps... the problem.... is.... just... yourself? > There's a hell of a lot more people sitting down to play F1RC on their > computers than there is for most sims. Because there are a group of people on a single website that have outclassed others? -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

The WWF has a ton of fans, too, but there's no accounting for taste! ;-) Seriously, though, F1RC is good in its own right, but it's too similar to F1WGP for me. That doesn't mean it's a lot of fun, but I've just never found it to be terribly immersive or convincing as a simulation. Your mileage may vary, of course. -- JB On Sun, 09 Sep 2001 02:07:56 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> j a m e s <[email hidden]> wrote on 08 Sep 2001: >> >> F1 Racing >> Sim/Championship/whatever has faded into obscurity after a bright early >> showing. > >Where do you get this nonsense? About 550 people have already signed up at >the just opened F1RC Relay site http://f1rcrelay.com/LDrivers.asp , and it's >still the most posted to forum at HG. Tons of add-ons too. > >David G Fisher > > >

Fran�ois Sadly it was stated months ago how Ubi fails to react to thier customers needs past F1RS and they still maintain poor support. It doesnt surprise me at all that Ubi just continues to *ignore* their customers. Then all the discussions for 'fixing bugs' in f1rc just falls on *deaf ears*. phew what a company "ymenard" wrote: | There is absolutely no support by Ubisoft for F1RC. The statement istrue, | it has faded out. The company doesn't want to support it's customers,it's | a shame. It had a bright future if many things would had been fixed, butit | did not. Therefore, it faded out. | >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote | > Where do you get this nonsense? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.276 / Virus Database: 145 - Release Date: 9/3/2001

Two additions to this list: Need For Speed: Porshe Unleashed NASCAR Heat NASCAR Heat will undoubtedly give you the most bang for your buck of any sim, save perhaps SCGT, which is getting a bit long in the tooth. There are new tracks appearing for NASCAR Heat, and a TON of add-ons. If you buy NASCAR Heat, you can download (for FREE) mods that will add CART, IRL, Craftsman Truck, LeMans cars to the game, with more to come. You can't go wrong with this one. ;-) - JB On Sat, 08 Sep 2001 23:50:07 GMT, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >On Sat, 08 Sep 2001 22:54:03 GMT, "j a m e s" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>any input appreciated. > >These are some of the must-have racing sims: > >Grand Prix Legends >Nascar 4 >Mercedes Benz Truck Racing >Grand Prix 3 2000 >F1 Racing Championship >F1 Championship Season 2000 >Rally Championship 2000 >Viper Racing > >The rest is arcade crap :) > >Andre

The WWF and NASCAR is a much better comparison. :-) I'm simply rebuffing the notion that it's "faded out". David G Fisher "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> The WWF has a ton of fans, too, but there's no accounting for taste! > > ;-) > > Seriously, though, F1RC is good in its own right, but it's too similar > to F1WGP for me. That doesn't mean it's a lot of fun, but I've just > never found it to be terribly immersive or convincing as a simulation. > Your mileage may vary, of course. > > -- JB > > On Sun, 09 Sep 2001 02:07:56 GMT, "David G Fisher" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >"David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> j a m e s <[email hidden]> wrote on 08 Sep 2001: > >> > >> F1 Racing > >> Sim/Championship/whatever has faded into obscurity after a bright early > >> showing. > > > >Where do you get this nonsense? About 550 people have already signed up

at > >the just opened F1RC Relay site http://f1rcrelay.com/LDrivers.asp , andit's

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> >still the most posted to forum at HG. Tons of add-ons too. > > > >David G Fisher > > > > > > >

Many times I've stated ymenard, consider the source but its old news! Always in conflict with anyone that says anything 'negative' about f1rc and then tries to make other sims seem like junk. Extremely juvenille & immature. This last post by DGF proves my point & speaks for itself. Really Sad.. "ymenard" wrote: | >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote | > Faded out of what? WTF are you two talking about? This is the type ofsh*t | > which ispires me to bust the (tiny) balls of some of you. | | | When you show some respect, you'll be able to argue correctly. Or else,you | just lower yourself to George Ojeda or Derek Smart standards. I wrotethat | in another NG about somebody who is about the same type as you. Every | threads he's involved are flame threads. Perhaps... the problem....is....

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| just... yourself? | | | > There's a hell of a lot more people sitting down to play F1RC on their | > computers than there is for most sims. | | Because there are a group of people on a single website that have

outclassed | others? | -- | -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.276 / Virus Database: 145 - Release Date: 9/4/2001

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:oCBm7.33099$[email hidden]... > >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Faded out of what? WTF are you two talking about? This is the type ofsh*t > > which ispires me to bust the (tiny) balls of some of you. > > > When you show some respect, you'll be able to argue correctly. Or else,you > just lower yourself to George Ojeda or Derek Smart standards. I wrotethat > in another NG about somebody who is about the same type as you. Every > threads he's involved are flame threads. Perhaps... the problem....is.... > just... yourself? I show respect to those who deserve respect. Perhaps.....the problem.....is........just.......the same old, tired group of people here at r.a.s. who keep repeating the same old garbage year after year. If those people would simply stop replying to my posts (I certainly haven't forced them to reply), the flame wars wouldn't exist. David G Fisher

Thom, find yourself another hobby besides patting the butt of those who disagree with me. David G Fisher "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FUBm7.182087$[email hidden]...

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> Many times I've stated ymenard, consider the source but its old news! > Always in conflict with anyone that says anything 'negative' about f1rc > and then tries to make other sims seem like junk. Extremely juvenille & > immature. This last post by DGF proves my point & speaks for itself. > Really Sad.. > > "ymenard" wrote: > > | >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > | > Faded out of what? WTF are you two talking about? This is the type of > sh*t > | > which ispires me to bust the (tiny) balls of some of you. > | > | > | When you show some respect, you'll be able to argue correctly. Or else, > you > | just lower yourself to George Ojeda or Derek Smart standards. I wrote > that > | in another NG about somebody who is about the same type as you. Every > | threads he's involved are flame threads. Perhaps... the problem.... > is.... > | just... yourself? > | > | > | > There's a hell of a lot more people sitting down to play F1RC on their > | > computers than there is for most sims. > | > | Because there are a group of people on a single website that have > outclassed > | others? > | -- > | -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.276 / Virus Database: 145 - Release Date: 9/4/2001 > >

Sorry, for some reason I've just been overcome with the need to admit my sins and repent. You're right, F1RC has "faded out". It was me who made all of the 16,000 posts over the past six at the HG forum. I registered all those user names. I also made up the 550 names (and growing) at the F1RC Relay site. Ahhh, I feel better now. Please forgive me. You were right about all this, just like you were right about Ubi lying about the FIA restricting them from developing the multiplayer further. David G Fisher "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VXBm7.182102$[email hidden]...

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> > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:oCBm7.33099$[email hidden]... > > >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > Faded out of what? WTF are you two talking about? This is the type of > sh*t > > > which ispires me to bust the (tiny) balls of some of you. > > > > > > When you show some respect, you'll be able to argue correctly. Or else, > you > > just lower yourself to George Ojeda or Derek Smart standards. I wrote > that > > in another NG about somebody who is about the same type as you. Every > > threads he's involved are flame threads. Perhaps... the problem.... > is.... > > just... yourself? > > I show respect to those who deserve respect. > Perhaps.....the problem.....is........just.......the same old, tired group > of people here at r.a.s. who keep repeating the same old garbage year

after > year. If those people would simply stop replying to my posts (I certainly > haven't forced them to reply), the flame wars wouldn't exist. > > David G Fisher >

BTW Thom, I'm usually criticized by your buddies of liking too many sims. Exactly the opposite of what you say below. Get your stories straight at the next meeting. Small example for you. I also liked F12000/CS and GP3 a lot (more than most here) before F1RC was released. David G Fisher "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FUBm7.182087$[email hidden]...

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> and then tries to make other sims seem like junk. > "ymenard" wrote: > > | >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > | > Faded out of what? WTF are you two talking about? This is the type of > sh*t > | > which ispires me to bust the (tiny) balls of some of you. > | > | > | When you show some respect, you'll be able to argue correctly. Or else, > you > | just lower yourself to George Ojeda or Derek Smart standards. I wrote > that > | in another NG about somebody who is about the same type as you. Every > | threads he's involved are flame threads. Perhaps... the problem.... > is.... > | just... yourself? > | > | > | > There's a hell of a lot more people sitting down to play F1RC on their > | > computers than there is for most sims. > | > | Because there are a group of people on a single website that have > outclassed > | others? > | -- > | -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.276 / Virus Database: 145 - Release Date: 9/4/2001 > >

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > Perhaps.....the problem.....is........just.......the same old, tired group > of people here at r.a.s. who keep repeating the same old garbage yearafter > year. If those people would simply stop replying to my posts (I certainly > haven't forced them to reply), the flame wars wouldn't exist. The only flame wars are because of you. You search for trouble, you initiate the fire by throwing a match in it. Unless you consider yourself the crusader of the free world (which you probably do actually!) <G> -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > You're right, F1RC has "faded out". It was me who made all of the 16,000 > posts over the past six at the HG forum. I registered all those usernames. > I also made up the 550 names (and growing) at the F1RC Relay site. 550 people is what I call faded out. I wouldn't deny that GPL has faded out also. Anyway, where's the patch? -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Last comment for a long time. You meet me anytime - any place as you are only 20minutes from me & I'll show you exactly how small my balls are you smacked whimp!!! Now do it or shut-up! I am sick of all your bullshit & whining so just meet me!! "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YYBm7.182107$[email hidden]... | Thom, find yourself another hobby besides patting the butt of those who | disagree with me. | | David G Fisher --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.276 / Virus Database: 145 - Release Date: 9/3/2001

Thommy's called me out just like the kids with developmental problems used to do to each other in the 7th grade. Fine Thommy. Let's do it! David G Fisher "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MQCm7.182273$[email hidden]...

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> Last comment for a long time. You meet me anytime - any place > as you are only 20minutes from me & I'll show you exactly how > small my balls are you smacked whimp!!! Now do it or shut-up! > I am sick of all your bullshit & whining so just meet me!! > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:YYBm7.182107$[email hidden]... > | Thom, find yourself another hobby besides patting the butt of those who > | disagree with me. > | > | David G Fisher > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.276 / Virus Database: 145 - Release Date: 9/3/2001 > > >

P.S. Just please don't show me your tiny balls. Nothing against your type, it's just not the way I am. David G Fisher "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MQCm7.182273$[email hidden]... > I'll show you exactly how > > small my balls are

time & place. dont pull any of your phoney shit like you usually do! "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uWCm7.182283$[email hidden]...

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| Thommy's called me out just like the kids with developmental problems used | to do to each other in the 7th grade. | | Fine Thommy. Let's do it! | | David G Fisher | | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:MQCm7.182273$[email hidden]... | > Last comment for a long time. You meet me anytime - any place | > as you are only 20minutes from me & I'll show you exactly how | > small my balls are you smacked whimp!!! Now do it or shut-up! | > I am sick of all your bullshit & whining so just meet me!! | > | > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:YYBm7.182107$[email hidden]... | > | Thom, find yourself another hobby besides patting the butt of those

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time & place. dont pull any of your phoney shit like you usually do!

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| Thommy's called me out just like the kids with developmental problems used | to do to each other in the 7th grade. | | Fine Thommy. Let's do it! | | David G Fisher | | > Last comment for a long time. You meet me anytime - any place | > as you are only 20minutes from me & I'll show you exactly how | > small my balls are you smacked whimp!!! Now do it or shut-up! | > I am sick of all your bullshit & whining so just meet me!! | > | > | Thom, find yourself another hobby besides patting the ***of those

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GO AWAY!!! -- ed_ DGF: something

GPL = Grand Prix Legends. (and it is the greatest racing game ever *grin*) GPL is based on the 1967 Grand Prix season. It takes you back to the era of no downforce, minimal safety, power sliding around the streets of Monaco, and dicing with death going through the Masta Kink at Spa-Fracorchamps. If you want to play GPL online, you will have to get a program called VROC. It allows you to meet up with all the guys who race GPL and chat with them before joining a server. It's also very easy to use. Nascar 4 is also very good. It's much superior in looks, feel and fun than Nascar 2000. Colin McRae Rally 2 is great fun as far as rally games go. If you want something a little more 'fun' instead of serious, go for Porsche Unleaded, Viper Racing, Driver (getting old but still heaps of fun), and Sports Car GT. They are all great fun without having to put lots of hours of practice in to be good. I'm sure there are more games out there that people are playing, but these are the ones I've played and have kept playing from time to time. Hope this helps you. -Bamf j a m e s wrote in message ...

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> >okay sports fans, i want to know what your favorite racing games are. > >in the past month i got a 1.4 athlon fully loaded, and decided that it was >time to buy a racing wheel. i've always wanted one, and now that i was no >longer running a P2/333 i could seriously get into some games. so i picked >up a microsoft sidewinder precision wheel and pedals for a ninety bucks and >NASCAR 2000 for $9.99, and to tell the truth, i don't think i've ever had >more fun with a computer in my life, and i've been using them for nearly 15 >years. i should have bought a wheel ages ago, though i have a feeling USB >has really let game controllers shine. then i was let on to this

newsgroup, >and i've learned a lot more. > >from what i've been lead to believe, NASCAR 2000 is a great game, but there >are many, many better ones out there. i've asked around before, buthaven't >compiled any lists. i've also been playing the Porsche Unleashed demo >pretty constantly, and loving it. > >so what are people's favorites? i dig NASCAR and formula one racing, but i >think getting into rally racing on the pc would be a frigging blast.people

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>in here talk favourably about "GPL", whatever it is, like it's the greatest >racing game ever, so i'm probably interested. > >any input appreciated. > > > > >-- >i am not a crackpot > >

In article <[email hidden]>, David Buttery <[email hidden]> writes >however, >I can give you my prejudices, for what they're worth... An honest man Racing is life......anything before or after is just waiting Michael Delaney (Steve McQueen) Le Mans 1970 -- Lee Ward E-mail: [email hidden] GPLFD TEAM CHAD - You can count on us. EUROF2 LADS RACING - Old enough to know better.

"j a m e s" <[email hidden]> writes: > okay sports fans, i want to know what your favorite racing games are. GP500. old, but gold. -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 "a language is a dialect with an army and a navy"

Yes, but you seem to like only one at a time David. Every one appearing the greatest thing since sliced bread to you, to be enjoyed to the exclusion of everything else (slight exaggeration). I prefer my simming to have more scope. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "David G Fisher" wrote... > BTW Thom, I'm usually criticized by your buddies of liking > too many sims. Exactly the opposite of what you say below. > Get your stories straight at the next meeting. > > Small example for you. I also liked F12000/CS and GP3 a lot > (more than most here) before F1RC was released.

Wheres the patch for F1CS then? On Sun, 9 Sep 2001 00:25:49 -0400, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote >> You're right, F1RC has "faded out". It was me who made all of the 16,000 >> posts over the past six at the HG forum. I registered all those user >names. >> I also made up the 550 names (and growing) at the F1RC Relay site. > > >550 people is what I call faded out. I wouldn't deny that GPL has faded out >also. > > >Anyway, where's the patch?

Lee Ward <[email hidden]> wrote on 09 Sep 2001: > In article <[email hidden]>, David > Buttery <[email hidden]> writes >>however, >>I can give you my prejudices, for what they're worth... > > An honest man<snip> Where? Where? -- "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. What was he on about? See http://www.shelsley-walsh.co.uk Banish those hardwood floors! http://www.carpetfoundation.com