Nvidia drivers

I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement they have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance. Andi.

yep I got similar results. Allan "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9nljh0$k2j$[email hidden]... > I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement they > have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance. > > Andi. > >

Great. But what kind of video card do you have? Apparently this matters (i.e., G2 vs. G3). Andi Cole <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9nljh0$k2j$[email hidden]... > I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement they > have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance. > > Andi. > >

I got about a 15% boost with my Gforce2 ultra Allan "Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3b9ed98b$[email hidden]... > Great. But what kind of video card do you have? Apparently this matters > (i.e., G2 vs. G3). > > Andi Cole <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9nljh0$k2j$[email hidden]... > > I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazementthey

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In article <9nljh0$k2j$[email hidden]>, Andi Cole wrote: >I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement they >have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance. But, do you get performance increases in actual games? That's the issue.

It's an Elsa Gladiac 920 (GF3). Andi. "Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3b9ed98b$[email hidden]... > Great. But what kind of video card do you have? Apparently this matters > (i.e., G2 vs. G3). > > Andi Cole <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9nljh0$k2j$[email hidden]... > > I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazementthey

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Ah, well, I'm not really sure, it's so fast anyway. Andi. "Joseph Huesmann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <9nljh0$k2j$[email hidden]>, Andi Cole wrote: > >I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazementthey > >have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance. > > But, do you get performance increases in actual games? That's the issue.

I've got a regular GeForce 2 GTS, 64 meg card but also run McAfee VirusScan and after loading the drivers the damn thing blue screened on me!!! I had to give the pc the 3 fingered salute which then caused it to boot to safe mode!!!! Went back to 12.41 CERTIFIED! drivers and everything is fine again.... I'll wait until the version 21.x.x come out that are certified. Jay J "Allan Parent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I got about a 15% boost with my Gforce2 ultra > > > Allan > > "Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3b9ed98b$[email hidden]... > > Great. But what kind of video card do you have? Apparently this matters > > (i.e., G2 vs. G3). > > > > Andi Cole <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9nljh0$k2j$[email hidden]... > > > I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement > they > > > have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance. > > > > > > Andi. > > > > > > > > > > > >

Installed the new drivers last night in place of my Leadtek provided drivers. I ran both 3dMark2000 and 2001, from a fresh boot before and after installing. My results were disappointing. Minimal improvement. 2000 gained 21 marks and 2001 gained 86 marks, but many of the individual tests actually went down in their frames per second rates (while others went up just enough to bring the balance slightly into the positive range). Andi Cole wrote: > > I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement they > have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance. > > Andi.

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Harry <[email hidden]> wrote: : Installed the new drivers last night in place of my Leadtek : provided drivers. I ran both 3dMark2000 and 2001, from a fresh : boot before and after installing. My results were disappointing. : Minimal improvement. 2000 gained 21 marks and 2001 gained 86 : marks, but many of the individual tests actually went down in : their frames per second rates (while others went up just enough : to bring the balance slightly into the positive range). Sounds like what happened to me when I upgraded to detonator 3 my quake2 frame rates dropped 25%, but since the older video drivers are incompatible with some games, I'm forced to use the slower newer ones. I have a feeling they may be rewritten to take advantage of fast CPUs, but if you don't have one the new code can create bottle necks.

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> Installed the new drivers last night in place of my Leadtek > provided drivers. I ran both 3dMark2000 and 2001, from a fresh > boot before and after installing. My results were disappointing. > Minimal improvement. 2000 gained 21 marks and 2001 gained 86 > marks, but many of the individual tests actually went down in > their frames per second rates (while others went up just enough > to bring the balance slightly into the positive range).

strange. I went from ~4800 to ~5400. frame rates fluctuate far less now, and, perhaps the biggest surprise; the nature demo went from ~20 FPS to never dipping below 30. cool stuff. GF3, though. -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 gitaren er en sjingke

In article <wtUn7.4495$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > I've got a regular GeForce 2 GTS, 64 meg card but also run McAfee VirusScan > and after loading the drivers the damn thing blue screened on me!!! > > I had to give the pc the 3 fingered salute which then caused it to boot to > safe mode!!!! Did you disable the virus software before installing? The instructions were pretty specific about that. Perhaps one of the files that the driver uses, didn't get updated, the partial install could cause all kinds of grief. Perhaps installing again with your virus software disabled. Hope this helps -- Regards, Jim Henry

Yep.. I used task manager to "end task" each of the McAfee Virusscan programs before installing, in fact I had all programs save my firewall (Black Ice) disabled and it seemed to install just fine. It was after a cold boot that things went downhill.. Jay J "James Henry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <wtUn7.4495$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > I've got a regular GeForce 2 GTS, 64 meg card but also run McAfeeVirusScan > > and after loading the drivers the damn thing blue screened on me!!! > > > > I had to give the pc the 3 fingered salute which then caused it to bootto

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> > safe mode!!!! > > Did you disable the virus software before installing? The instructions > were pretty specific about that. Perhaps one of the files that the driver > uses, didn't get updated, the partial install could cause all kinds of > grief. Perhaps installing again with your virus software disabled. > > Hope this helps > -- > Regards, > Jim Henry

Indeed. IMHO nVidia released these drivers just to scare the heck out of ATI. These drivers are heavily optimized for improvements witch benchmarks. That's after all what everybody is staring at. In actual games, as far as I read news, the performance was even lower with some titles. Marco Joseph Huesmann wrote: > > But, do you get performance increases in actual games? That's the issue.

Harry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> Installed the new drivers last night in place of my Leadtek > provided drivers. I ran both 3dMark2000 and 2001, from a fresh > boot before and after installing. My results were disappointing. > Minimal improvement. 2000 gained 21 marks and 2001 gained 86 > marks, but many of the individual tests actually went down in > their frames per second rates (while others went up just enough > to bring the balance slightly into the positive range). > > Andi Cole wrote: > > > > I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement they > > have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance. > > > > Andi.

I think it depends greatly on what card you have. I think I read in one of the previews that GeForce3s would see the most improvement, with diminishing gains the older your card gets (I think gf2's were supposed to get ok improvements, while gf1's get pretty much nothing). haven't checked benchmarks on my gf1 sdr (eeeeeeeeeeew), but it doesn't 'feel' a heap worse (was running 8.05 b4 as i'm using dx7 games mostly atm).

I got the new 21.81 drivers and although everything else is fine, 3D Mark 2001 refuses to finish all of its tests. It gets so far, about test 12 of 20 and then just stops with a blank screen. I've tried re-installing it but it doesn't help. Any ideas? DaySleeper "Harry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Installed the new drivers last night in place of my Leadtek > provided drivers. I ran both 3dMark2000 and 2001, from a fresh > boot before and after installing. My results were disappointing. > Minimal improvement. 2000 gained 21 marks and 2001 gained 86 > marks, but many of the individual tests actually went down in > their frames per second rates (while others went up just enough > to bring the balance slightly into the positive range). > > Andi Cole wrote: > > > > I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement

they > > have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance. > > > > Andi. >

Mine was a GeForce2MX and it lost a lot of ground in many areas, gained some in others. Had plenty of CPU behind it, so the theory that the new drivers may be more CPU intensive and so only improve things on faster CPU's doesn't seem to hold up either. I was genuinely surprised by this result. From reviews I had read, such as the one at anandtech, I expect to see a significant improvement. Chairman wrote:

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> > Harry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > > Installed the new drivers last night in place of my Leadtek > > provided drivers. I ran both 3dMark2000 and 2001, from a fresh > > boot before and after installing. My results were disappointing. > > Minimal improvement. 2000 gained 21 marks and 2001 gained 86 > > marks, but many of the individual tests actually went down in > > their frames per second rates (while others went up just enough > > to bring the balance slightly into the positive range). > > > > Andi Cole wrote: > > > > > > I got a copy of the 21.81 Detonater drivers today and to my amazement they > > > have made an 18% improvement in benchmark performance. > > > > > > Andi. > > I think it depends greatly on what card you have. I think I read in > one of the previews that GeForce3s would see the most improvement, > with diminishing gains the older your card gets (I think gf2's were > supposed to get ok improvements, while gf1's get pretty much nothing). > haven't checked benchmarks on my gf1 sdr (eeeeeeeeeeew), but it > doesn't 'feel' a heap worse (was running 8.05 b4 as i'm using dx7 > games mostly atm).