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Re: Help with video issue after mobo/cpu upgrade

26 posts by 10 people · 08 Oct 2005 20:14 UTC - 13 Oct 2005 13:04 UTC

Black screens and crashes after motherboard and CPU upgrade

After fitting an MSI K8T Neo2 board and Athlon 64 3500+, a user got black screens and failures in games and eventually a system stuck at boot. Others pointed out he had not reinstalled Windows after the board swap. A repair install failed and he proceeded to reformat; advice also covered 64-bit XP driver availability.

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Some games after changes will require you to re-run the graphics setup. Have you tried that? Amy "V "fnugen"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IsS1f.9532$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (19 lines)>I just installed a brand new MSI K8Tneo2-f mobo and an AMD64 3500+. I was >expecting leaps and bounds better graphics in my games, well.........I got >the exact opposite. I have an ATI 9800pro. Now when I start a game, I get >either what looks like a monitor gone into standby mode, screen goes black >light goes to yellow, or the game freezes or the game freezes and I can >move my mouse...but only vertically and one position. A couple times I got >a bunch of vertical lines and the music still played vor a few more secs >than it looped itself. This happens within a minute including loading time >for the game. Oviously I can still surf and work on the desktop seeing how >I can post here. Does it sound like my card is cooked? It was fine the >moment before I took the old board and chip out, I played a game so I could >get a fresh comparison. I already placed a Vantec ICEBERQ fan on the card, >with heatsinks on he ram chips because the old fan died. Is it possible the >new board heats the card beyond this coolers capacity? I am not entirely >new to mobo/cpu replacement, but this is the first time I've had this >happen. I can't see anything obvious in the BIOS >settings.................can somebody make some suggestions or give me a >link to a good vidcard tester before I go buy a new card. On that note, is >the Sapphire 9600XT 256m, any good........just in case.
Verne "fnugen" Harris 09 Oct 2005 04:25 UTC#16235
I just installed a brand new MSI K8Tneo2-f mobo and an AMD64 3500+. I was expecting leaps and bounds better graphics in my games, well.........I got the exact opposite. I have an ATI 9800pro. Now when I start a game, I get either what looks like a monitor gone into standby mode, screen goes black light goes to yellow, or the game freezes or the game freezes and I can move my mouse...but only vertically and one position. A couple times I got a bunch of vertical lines and the music still played vor a few more secs than it looped itself. This happens within a minute including loading time for the game. Oviously I can still surf and work on the desktop seeing how I can post here. Does it sound like my card is cooked? It was fine the moment before I took the old board and chip out, I played a game so I could get a fresh comparison. I already placed a Vantec ICEBERQ fan on the card, with heatsinks on he ram chips because the old fan died. Is it possible the new board heats the card beyond this coolers capacity? I am not entirely new to mobo/cpu replacement, but this is the first time I've had this happen. I can't see anything obvious in the BIOS settings.................can somebody make some suggestions or give me a link to a good vidcard tester before I go buy a new card. On that note, is the Sapphire 9600XT 256m, any good........just in case.
V \ 09 Oct 2005 04:25 UTC#532765
I just installed a brand new MSI K8Tneo2-f mobo and an AMD64 3500+. I was expecting leaps and bounds better graphics in my games, well.........I got the exact opposite. I have an ATI 9800pro. Now when I start a game, I get either what looks like a monitor gone into standby mode, screen goes black light goes to yellow, or the game freezes or the game freezes and I can move my mouse...but only vertically and one position. A couple times I got a bunch of vertical lines and the music still played vor a few more secs than it looped itself. This happens within a minute including loading time for the game. Oviously I can still surf and work on the desktop seeing how I can post here. Does it sound like my card is cooked? It was fine the moment before I took the old board and chip out, I played a game so I could get a fresh comparison. I already placed a Vantec ICEBERQ fan on the card, with heatsinks on he ram chips because the old fan died. Is it possible the new board heats the card beyond this coolers capacity? I am not entirely new to mobo/cpu replacement, but this is the first time I've had this happen. I can't see anything obvious in the BIOS settings.................can somebody make some suggestions or give me a link to a good vidcard tester before I go buy a new card. On that note, is the Sapphire 9600XT 256m, any good........just in case.
Yes I am aware of redoing my settings. After a long night of trying what I conclude as almost evrything, my system came down to the point of ONLY powering itself....it is stuck in "RTC" mode. Trying to read real time clock. Turns out that it may be an issue with the board. The board may be defective entirely as the chip would run at 83c when normally this chips runs no higher than 70c according to some support and tech sites. It's thanksgiving weekend in Canada, so I can't even contact the retailer until tuesday now..sucks, because now there is 3 days between purchase and contact. I really hope the video issue is attributed to a faulty board. thanks for the suggestion though.......but the video issue now seems the lessor of 2 evils. "Amy L." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (28 lines)> Some games after changes will require you to re-run the graphics setup. > Have you tried that? > > Amy > > "V "fnugen"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:IsS1f.9532$[email hidden]... >>I just installed a brand new MSI K8Tneo2-f mobo and an AMD64 3500+. I was >>expecting leaps and bounds better graphics in my games, well.........I got >>the exact opposite. I have an ATI 9800pro. Now when I start a game, I get >>either what looks like a monitor gone into standby mode, screen goes black >>light goes to yellow, or the game freezes or the game freezes and I can >>move my mouse...but only vertically and one position. A couple times I got >>a bunch of vertical lines and the music still played vor a few more secs >>than it looped itself. This happens within a minute including loading time >>for the game. Oviously I can still surf and work on the desktop seeing how >>I can post here. Does it sound like my card is cooked? It was fine the >>moment before I took the old board and chip out, I played a game so I >>could get a fresh comparison. I already placed a Vantec ICEBERQ fan on the >>card, with heatsinks on he ram chips because the old fan died. Is it >>possible the new board heats the card beyond this coolers capacity? I am >>not entirely new to mobo/cpu replacement, but this is the first time I've >>had this happen. I can't see anything obvious in the BIOS >>settings.................can somebody make some suggestions or give me a >>link to a good vidcard tester before I go buy a new card. On that note, is >>the Sapphire 9600XT 256m, any good........just in case. > >
V \ 09 Oct 2005 16:18 UTC#532766
Yes I am aware of redoing my settings. After a long night of trying what I conclude as almost evrything, my system came down to the point of ONLY powering itself....it is stuck in "RTC" mode. Trying to read real time clock. Turns out that it may be an issue with the board. The board may be defective entirely as the chip would run at 83c when normally this chips runs no higher than 70c according to some support and tech sites. It's thanksgiving weekend in Canada, so I can't even contact the retailer until tuesday now..sucks, because now there is 3 days between purchase and contact. I really hope the video issue is attributed to a faulty board. thanks for the suggestion though.......but the video issue now seems the lessor of 2 evils.
Quoted text (27 lines)> Some games after changes will require you to re-run the graphics setup. > Have you tried that? > Amy >>I just installed a brand new MSI K8Tneo2-f mobo and an AMD64 3500+. I was >>expecting leaps and bounds better graphics in my games, well.........I got >>the exact opposite. I have an ATI 9800pro. Now when I start a game, I get >>either what looks like a monitor gone into standby mode, screen goes black >>light goes to yellow, or the game freezes or the game freezes and I can >>move my mouse...but only vertically and one position. A couple times I got >>a bunch of vertical lines and the music still played vor a few more secs >>than it looped itself. This happens within a minute including loading time >>for the game. Oviously I can still surf and work on the desktop seeing how >>I can post here. Does it sound like my card is cooked? It was fine the >>moment before I took the old board and chip out, I played a game so I >>could get a fresh comparison. I already placed a Vantec ICEBERQ fan on the >>card, with heatsinks on he ram chips because the old fan died. Is it >>possible the new board heats the card beyond this coolers capacity? I am >>not entirely new to mobo/cpu replacement, but this is the first time I've >>had this happen. I can't see anything obvious in the BIOS >>settings.................can somebody make some suggestions or give me a >>link to a good vidcard tester before I go buy a new card. On that note, is >>the Sapphire 9600XT 256m, any good........just in case.
I had a llittle bit similar problem for months. My Ati 9600 XT Turbo worked for 30+ minutes and then just crashed. In some cases mouse moved and sounds were still playing, but couldnt control anything. It only happened in some new games that need a lot from adapter (GTR and BF2). I tried to change everything, starting from display drivers, added RAM memory etc. Finally I had help from one forum. I ran Everest software and some pro noticed from the report that although I had AGP adapter, my computer for some strange reason thought display adapter is running in PCI bus. With so, the computer ran display adapter memory bus on 1/4 of normal speed. I updated SIS motherboard AGP drivers and immediately it helped. No problems what so ever. After these problems I tested the card with a test software and got around 3400 points (before that, 1280). Cause I already was frustrated of the problem, I ordered a new computer (before the problem was solved) with AMD 4000+ and PCI-Express nVidia Gainward GS 7800 GT card. Well, have to say that I dont have a single game more, that couldnt be runned with 100% detail levels etc. Its great and together with the graphic detail level the computer is around 10 times faster than my older one (Intel 2.4 MHz with ATi 9600Pro Turbo). I wouldnt go for ATI anymore. Driver updates are a mess and it seems that at least those games I play, ATI has 10 times the problems than nVidia based adapters.Drivers are easy to update and you dont need different driver versions from different manufacturers with nVidia. For me - never ATI again! "V "fnugen"" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss�:IsS1f.9532$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (19 lines)>I just installed a brand new MSI K8Tneo2-f mobo and an AMD64 3500+. I was >expecting leaps and bounds better graphics in my games, well.........I got >the exact opposite. I have an ATI 9800pro. Now when I start a game, I get >either what looks like a monitor gone into standby mode, screen goes black >light goes to yellow, or the game freezes or the game freezes and I can >move my mouse...but only vertically and one position. A couple times I got >a bunch of vertical lines and the music still played vor a few more secs >than it looped itself. This happens within a minute including loading time >for the game. Oviously I can still surf and work on the desktop seeing how >I can post here. Does it sound like my card is cooked? It was fine the >moment before I took the old board and chip out, I played a game so I could >get a fresh comparison. I already placed a Vantec ICEBERQ fan on the card, >with heatsinks on he ram chips because the old fan died. Is it possible the >new board heats the card beyond this coolers capacity? I am not entirely >new to mobo/cpu replacement, but this is the first time I've had this >happen. I can't see anything obvious in the BIOS >settings.................can somebody make some suggestions or give me a >link to a good vidcard tester before I go buy a new card. On that note, is >the Sapphire 9600XT 256m, any good........just in case.
Dumb question, but you *DID* reinstall your OS with a clean install, didn't you? You just gave your PC a brain trans-plant. Phil On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:25:27 -0400, "V \"fnugen\"" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (20 lines)>I just installed a brand new MSI K8Tneo2-f mobo and an AMD64 3500+. I >was expecting leaps and bounds better graphics in my games, >well.........I got the exact opposite. I have an ATI 9800pro. Now when I >start a game, I get either what looks like a monitor gone into standby >mode, screen goes black light goes to yellow, or the game freezes or the >game freezes and I can move my mouse...but only vertically and one >position. A couple times I got a bunch of vertical lines and the music >still played vor a few more secs than it looped itself. This happens >within a minute including loading time for the game. Oviously I can >still surf and work on the desktop seeing how I can post here. Does it >sound like my card is cooked? It was fine the moment before I took the >old board and chip out, I played a game so I could get a fresh >comparison. I already placed a Vantec ICEBERQ fan on the card, with >heatsinks on he ram chips because the old fan died. Is it possible the >new board heats the card beyond this coolers capacity? I am not entirely >new to mobo/cpu replacement, but this is the first time I've had this >happen. I can't see anything obvious in the BIOS >settings.................can somebody make some suggestions or give me a >link to a good vidcard tester before I go buy a new card. On that note, >is the Sapphire 9600XT 256m, any good........just in case.
Dave 10 Oct 2005 02:24 UTC↳ reply to JML#16266
"JML" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0Gf2f.361
Quoted text (7 lines)> I ordered a new computer (before the problem was solved) with AMD > 4000+ and PCI-Express nVidia Gainward GS 7800 GT card. Well, >have to say > that I dont have a single game more, that couldnt be runned with 100% detail > levels etc. Its great and together with the graphic detail level the > computer is around 10 times faster than my older one (Intel 2.4 MHz with ATi > 9600Pro Turbo). >
What was the price on that setup? I'm looking to buy a new box myself. Thanks! Dave
Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I know.......tried to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the "save time" phrase rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good reason to enquire into the 64b XP now. Verne "Philthy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (28 lines)> Dumb question, but you *DID* reinstall your OS with a clean install, > didn't you? You just gave your PC a brain trans-plant. > > Phil > > On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:25:27 -0400, "V \"fnugen\"" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>I just installed a brand new MSI K8Tneo2-f mobo and an AMD64 3500+. I >>was expecting leaps and bounds better graphics in my games, >>well.........I got the exact opposite. I have an ATI 9800pro. Now when I >>start a game, I get either what looks like a monitor gone into standby >>mode, screen goes black light goes to yellow, or the game freezes or the >>game freezes and I can move my mouse...but only vertically and one >>position. A couple times I got a bunch of vertical lines and the music >>still played vor a few more secs than it looped itself. This happens >>within a minute including loading time for the game. Oviously I can >>still surf and work on the desktop seeing how I can post here. Does it >>sound like my card is cooked? It was fine the moment before I took the >>old board and chip out, I played a game so I could get a fresh >>comparison. I already placed a Vantec ICEBERQ fan on the card, with >>heatsinks on he ram chips because the old fan died. Is it possible the >>new board heats the card beyond this coolers capacity? I am not entirely >>new to mobo/cpu replacement, but this is the first time I've had this >>happen. I can't see anything obvious in the BIOS >>settings.................can somebody make some suggestions or give me a >>link to a good vidcard tester before I go buy a new card. On that note, >>is the Sapphire 9600XT 256m, any good........just in case.
V \ 10 Oct 2005 04:28 UTC#532767
Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I know.......tried to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the "save time" phrase rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good reason to enquire into the 64b XP now. Verne
Quoted text (28 lines)> Dumb question, but you *DID* reinstall your OS with a clean install, > didn't you? You just gave your PC a brain trans-plant. > Phil > On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:25:27 -0400, "V \"fnugen\"" >>I just installed a brand new MSI K8Tneo2-f mobo and an AMD64 3500+. I >>was expecting leaps and bounds better graphics in my games, >>well.........I got the exact opposite. I have an ATI 9800pro. Now when I >>start a game, I get either what looks like a monitor gone into standby >>mode, screen goes black light goes to yellow, or the game freezes or the >>game freezes and I can move my mouse...but only vertically and one >>position. A couple times I got a bunch of vertical lines and the music >>still played vor a few more secs than it looped itself. This happens >>within a minute including loading time for the game. Oviously I can >>still surf and work on the desktop seeing how I can post here. Does it >>sound like my card is cooked? It was fine the moment before I took the >>old board and chip out, I played a game so I could get a fresh >>comparison. I already placed a Vantec ICEBERQ fan on the card, with >>heatsinks on he ram chips because the old fan died. Is it possible the >>new board heats the card beyond this coolers capacity? I am not entirely >>new to mobo/cpu replacement, but this is the first time I've had this >>happen. I can't see anything obvious in the BIOS >>settings.................can somebody make some suggestions or give me a >>link to a good vidcard tester before I go buy a new card. On that note, >>is the Sapphire 9600XT 256m, any good........just in case.
"Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (18 lines)> > "JML" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0Gf2f.361 > >> I ordered a new computer (before the problem was solved) with AMD >> 4000+ and PCI-Express nVidia Gainward GS 7800 GT card. Well, >have to say >> that I dont have a single game more, that couldnt be runned with 100% >> detail >> levels etc. Its great and together with the graphic detail level the >> computer is around 10 times faster than my older one (Intel 2.4 MHz with >> ATi >> 9600Pro Turbo). >> > > > What was the price on that setup? I'm looking to buy a new box myself. > Thanks! > Dave >
I got them for $471 CDN. Was the best deal I could get close by, and in stock items. I can't comment on the quality yet, as I haven't gotten that far. Problems arose. BUT.........I can't wait to find out how GTL runs, my ultimate goal, all the F1c mods 2nd then GTR. Verne
V \ 10 Oct 2005 04:32 UTC#532768
Quoted text (12 lines)>> I ordered a new computer (before the problem was solved) with AMD >> 4000+ and PCI-Express nVidia Gainward GS 7800 GT card. Well, >have to say >> that I dont have a single game more, that couldnt be runned with 100% >> detail >> levels etc. Its great and together with the graphic detail level the >> computer is around 10 times faster than my older one (Intel 2.4 MHz with >> ATi >> 9600Pro Turbo). > What was the price on that setup? I'm looking to buy a new box myself. > Thanks! > Dave
I got them for $471 CDN. Was the best deal I could get close by, and in stock items. I can't comment on the quality yet, as I haven't gotten that far. Problems arose. BUT.........I can't wait to find out how GTL runs, my ultimate goal, all the F1c mods 2nd then GTR. Verne
V \"fnugen\" wrote: > > Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I know.......tried > to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the "save time" phrase > rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good reason to enquire into the > 64b XP now. > While there is no performance hit from running 64b over 32b XP, nor is there currently a performance gain you'd notice, you could end up having peripherals that no longer work depending on whether they have 64 bit driver available for them, so make sure you check for driver availability before taking the plunge Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "When two or more people are gathered together in my name, they shall perform the Parrot Sketch..." --Our Lord John Cleese--
JML 10 Oct 2005 18:53 UTC↳ reply to Dave#16291
I paid 1400 euros for my set with 2 Gt RAM, Gainward GS 7800 GT and AMD 4000+ processor. I have to say that although I�ve been in IT business for years, this is the first time I really have a MACHINE that works in games perfectly (for some months at least ;-) "Dave" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss�:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (19 lines)> > "JML" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0Gf2f.361 > >> I ordered a new computer (before the problem was solved) with AMD >> 4000+ and PCI-Express nVidia Gainward GS 7800 GT card. Well, >have to say >> that I dont have a single game more, that couldnt be runned with 100% >> detail >> levels etc. Its great and together with the graphic detail level the >> computer is around 10 times faster than my older one (Intel 2.4 MHz with >> ATi >> 9600Pro Turbo). >> > > > What was the price on that setup? I'm looking to buy a new box myself. > Thanks! > Dave > >
"V "fnugen"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:96m2f.347$[email hidden]... > Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I know.......tried > to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the "save time" phrase > rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good reason to enquire into > the 64b XP now. > You can do a repair install, then reinstall all the MB and video drivers to save some time. It sure beats reinstalling all your proggies. Ed
Ed Medlin wrote:
Quoted text (16 lines)> "V "fnugen"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:96m2f.347$[email hidden]... > >>Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I know.......tried >>to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the "save time" phrase >>rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good reason to enquire into >>the 64b XP now. >> > > > You can do a repair install, then reinstall all the MB and video drivers to > save some time. It sure beats reinstalling all your proggies. > > Ed > >
Yeah, kind of my lines of thinking. WHat have i got to lose by trying it, I had already reserved myself to a reformat.........so if that is then result, already in the mindset. I de believe it is old board driver issues. Doing a 3d config in F1c, I get a rating of "videoram=114" on a 9800pro. Ummmmmm, nuh-uh !!! Via 400 chipset from old board and VIA K8T800pro shipset on the new. Must be conflicts somewhere. I get a slide show on F1c when it used to be smooth and fluid, GTL........do NOT even ask....holy crap !!! I have updated and backdated the cat's as well......still same.........so repair and ultimately (by my figuring) reformat in near future. sucks, but oh well. Verne
V \ 11 Oct 2005 19:11 UTC#532770
Quoted text (9 lines)>>Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I know.......tried >>to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the "save time" phrase >>rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good reason to enquire into >>the 64b XP now. > You can do a repair install, then reinstall all the MB and video drivers to > save some time. It sure beats reinstalling all your proggies. > Ed
Yeah, kind of my lines of thinking. WHat have i got to lose by trying it, I had already reserved myself to a reformat.........so if that is then result, already in the mindset. I de believe it is old board driver issues. Doing a 3d config in F1c, I get a rating of "videoram=114" on a 9800pro. Ummmmmm, nuh-uh !!! Via 400 chipset from old board and VIA K8T800pro shipset on the new. Must be conflicts somewhere. I get a slide show on F1c when it used to be smooth and fluid, GTL........do NOT even ask....holy ***!!! I have updated and backdated the cat's as well......still same.........so repair and ultimately (by my figuring) reformat in near future. sucks, but oh well. Verne
V "fnugen" wrote:
Quoted text (29 lines)> Ed Medlin wrote: > >> "V "fnugen"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:96m2f.347$[email hidden]... >> >>> Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I >>> know.......tried to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the >>> "save time" phrase rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good >>> reason to enquire into the 64b XP now. >>> >> >> >> You can do a repair install, then reinstall all the MB and video >> drivers to save some time. It sure beats reinstalling all your proggies. >> >> Ed >> > Yeah, kind of my lines of thinking. WHat have i got to lose by trying > it, I had already reserved myself to a reformat.........so if that is > then result, already in the mindset. I de believe it is old board driver > issues. Doing a 3d config in F1c, I get a rating of "videoram=114" on a > 9800pro. Ummmmmm, nuh-uh !!! Via 400 chipset from old board and VIA > K8T800pro shipset on the new. Must be conflicts somewhere. I get a slide > show on F1c when it used to be smooth and fluid, GTL........do NOT even > ask....holy crap !!! I have updated and backdated the cat's as > well......still same.........so repair and ultimately (by my figuring) > reformat in near future. sucks, but oh well. > > Verne
Okay.........stupid question time. How do I boot my pc off the winXP cd to attempt a repair of XP ?? I placed the CD in my drive, changed CMOS to 1st boot cd/dvd..........and it goes right into windows. WTF am I not doing right ?? Off the CD I have install, or upgrade when in windows.....can I shortcut my way through to the repair option through there?? Not ready for a refromt yet, want to try the repair side of XP and see........help !!! Verne
V \ 12 Oct 2005 18:35 UTC#532771
Quoted text (22 lines)>>> Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I >>> know.......tried to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the >>> "save time" phrase rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good >>> reason to enquire into the 64b XP now. >> You can do a repair install, then reinstall all the MB and video >> drivers to save some time. It sure beats reinstalling all your proggies. >> Ed > Yeah, kind of my lines of thinking. WHat have i got to lose by trying > it, I had already reserved myself to a reformat.........so if that is > then result, already in the mindset. I de believe it is old board driver > issues. Doing a 3d config in F1c, I get a rating of "videoram=114" on a > 9800pro. Ummmmmm, nuh-uh !!! Via 400 chipset from old board and VIA > K8T800pro shipset on the new. Must be conflicts somewhere. I get a slide > show on F1c when it used to be smooth and fluid, GTL........do NOT even > ask....holy ***!!! I have updated and backdated the cat's as > well......still same.........so repair and ultimately (by my figuring) > reformat in near future. sucks, but oh well. > Verne
Okay.........stupid question time. How do I boot my pc off the winXP cd to attempt a repair of XP ?? I placed the CD in my drive, changed CMOS to 1st boot cd/dvd..........and it goes right into windows. WTF am I not doing right ?? Off the CD I have install, or upgrade when in windows.....can I shortcut my way through to the repair option through there?? Not ready for a refromt yet, want to try the repair side of XP and see........help !!! Verne
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:35:03 -0400, "V \"fnugen\"" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (39 lines)>V "fnugen" wrote: >> Ed Medlin wrote: >> >>> "V "fnugen"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:96m2f.347$[email hidden]... >>> >>>> Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I >>>> know.......tried to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the >>>> "save time" phrase rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good >>>> reason to enquire into the 64b XP now. >>>> >>> >>> >>> You can do a repair install, then reinstall all the MB and video >>> drivers to save some time. It sure beats reinstalling all your proggies. >>> >>> Ed >>> >> Yeah, kind of my lines of thinking. WHat have i got to lose by trying >> it, I had already reserved myself to a reformat.........so if that is >> then result, already in the mindset. I de believe it is old board driver >> issues. Doing a 3d config in F1c, I get a rating of "videoram=114" on a >> 9800pro. Ummmmmm, nuh-uh !!! Via 400 chipset from old board and VIA >> K8T800pro shipset on the new. Must be conflicts somewhere. I get a slide >> show on F1c when it used to be smooth and fluid, GTL........do NOT even >> ask....holy crap !!! I have updated and backdated the cat's as >> well......still same.........so repair and ultimately (by my figuring) >> reformat in near future. sucks, but oh well. >> >> Verne > > >Okay.........stupid question time. How do I boot my pc off the winXP cd >to attempt a repair of XP ?? I placed the CD in my drive, changed CMOS >to 1st boot cd/dvd..........and it goes right into windows. WTF am I not >doing right ?? Off the CD I have install, or upgrade when in >windows.....can I shortcut my way through to the repair option through >there?? Not ready for a refromt yet, want to try the repair side of XP >and see........help !!!
During boot up you should get a message like "Press a key to boot from CD" Cheers! Remco
Remco Moedt wrote:
Quoted text (59 lines)> On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:35:03 -0400, "V \"fnugen\"" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>V "fnugen" wrote: >> >>>Ed Medlin wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"V "fnugen"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>news:96m2f.347$[email hidden]... >>>> >>>> >>>>>Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I >>>>>know.......tried to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the >>>>>"save time" phrase rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good >>>>>reason to enquire into the 64b XP now. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>You can do a repair install, then reinstall all the MB and video >>>>drivers to save some time. It sure beats reinstalling all your proggies. >>>> >>>>Ed >>>> >>> >>>Yeah, kind of my lines of thinking. WHat have i got to lose by trying >>>it, I had already reserved myself to a reformat.........so if that is >>>then result, already in the mindset. I de believe it is old board driver >>>issues. Doing a 3d config in F1c, I get a rating of "videoram=114" on a >>>9800pro. Ummmmmm, nuh-uh !!! Via 400 chipset from old board and VIA >>>K8T800pro shipset on the new. Must be conflicts somewhere. I get a slide >>>show on F1c when it used to be smooth and fluid, GTL........do NOT even >>>ask....holy crap !!! I have updated and backdated the cat's as >>>well......still same.........so repair and ultimately (by my figuring) >>>reformat in near future. sucks, but oh well. >>> >>> Verne >> >> >>Okay.........stupid question time. How do I boot my pc off the winXP cd >>to attempt a repair of XP ?? I placed the CD in my drive, changed CMOS >>to 1st boot cd/dvd..........and it goes right into windows. WTF am I not >>doing right ?? Off the CD I have install, or upgrade when in >>windows.....can I shortcut my way through to the repair option through >>there?? Not ready for a refromt yet, want to try the repair side of XP >>and see........help !!! > > > During boot up you should get a message like "Press a key to boot from > CD" > > > > Cheers! > > > Remco >
Ok, cool. That did it. I had walked away for a minute while booting expecting a prompt...my bad. My problem now, having never set an admin passwor, when it gets to that point in the repair menu, I hit enter and get the next C:\windows prompt........then it just sits there, is there some kind of command I am supposed to type ? I get stuck at that point now. thanks V
V \ 12 Oct 2005 19:19 UTC#532772
Quoted text (50 lines)> On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:35:03 -0400, "V \"fnugen\"" >>>>>Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I >>>>>know.......tried to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the >>>>>"save time" phrase rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good >>>>>reason to enquire into the 64b XP now. >>>>You can do a repair install, then reinstall all the MB and video >>>>drivers to save some time. It sure beats reinstalling all your proggies. >>>>Ed >>>Yeah, kind of my lines of thinking. WHat have i got to lose by trying >>>it, I had already reserved myself to a reformat.........so if that is >>>then result, already in the mindset. I de believe it is old board driver >>>issues. Doing a 3d config in F1c, I get a rating of "videoram=114" on a >>>9800pro. Ummmmmm, nuh-uh !!! Via 400 chipset from old board and VIA >>>K8T800pro shipset on the new. Must be conflicts somewhere. I get a slide >>>show on F1c when it used to be smooth and fluid, GTL........do NOT even >>>ask....holy ***!!! I have updated and backdated the cat's as >>>well......still same.........so repair and ultimately (by my figuring) >>>reformat in near future. sucks, but oh well. >>> Verne >>Okay.........stupid question time. How do I boot my pc off the winXP cd >>to attempt a repair of XP ?? I placed the CD in my drive, changed CMOS >>to 1st boot cd/dvd..........and it goes right into windows. WTF am I not >>doing right ?? Off the CD I have install, or upgrade when in >>windows.....can I shortcut my way through to the repair option through >>there?? Not ready for a refromt yet, want to try the repair side of XP >>and see........help !!! > During boot up you should get a message like "Press a key to boot from > CD" > Cheers! > Remco
Ok, cool. That did it. I had walked away for a minute while booting expecting a prompt...my bad. My problem now, having never set an admin passwor, when it gets to that point in the repair menu, I hit enter and get the next C:\windows prompt........then it just sits there, is there some kind of command I am supposed to type ? I get stuck at that point now. thanks V
Thats the repair console. This may help ya a bit http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314058 Personally I've not had much luck saving an install in the repair console. Do you have your data backed up? Thats primarily what Ive used the console for then I do a fresh re-install of the OS after my data is safe. If youre data is safe already (as it should be) then do a clean install and be done. After you get xp setup nice then do a ghost or similar image for future headache savings ;) I dont feel right if I dont do a fresh install every 6 months anyway, hehe. Mitch "V "fnugen"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Dkd3f.5145
Quoted text (8 lines)> Ok, cool. That did it. I had walked away for a minute while booting > expecting a prompt...my bad. My problem now, having never set an admin > passwor, when it gets to that point in the repair menu, I hit enter and > get the next C:\windows prompt........then it just sits there, is there > some kind of command I am supposed to type ? I get stuck at that point > now. thanks > > V
I tried a repair and as much as I hoped, I got what was expected, same results. Now I am in the process of a reformat. Guess in the end I was resigned tio this. I used the "files and settings transfer" wizard to backup settings and some folders to my secondary drive. I hope I did it right.......never having used this wizard before, is transfering back just as easy? I have a large DAT file in my backup folder I created, do I double click that, or is it obvious what to do in reverse in the wizard? As far as ghosting my drive, I have serious video issues and that would just duplicate the same problems as originally trying to fix. I guess turning off system restore is a bad idea just to save some space?!?! Thanks again Verne "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1Yd3f.756$q%[email hidden]...
Quoted text (29 lines)> Thats the repair console. > > This may help ya a bit > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314058 > > Personally I've not had much luck saving an install in the repair console. > Do you have your data backed up? Thats primarily what Ive used the > console for then I do a fresh re-install of the OS after my data is safe. > If youre data is safe already (as it should be) then do a clean install > and be done. After you get xp setup nice then do a ghost or similar image > for future headache savings ;) > > I dont feel right if I dont do a fresh install every 6 months anyway, > hehe. > > Mitch > > > "V "fnugen"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Dkd3f.5145 >> Ok, cool. That did it. I had walked away for a minute while booting >> expecting a prompt...my bad. My problem now, having never set an admin >> passwor, when it gets to that point in the repair menu, I hit enter and >> get the next C:\windows prompt........then it just sits there, is there >> some kind of command I am supposed to type ? I get stuck at that point >> now. thanks >> >> V > >
V \ 12 Oct 2005 21:27 UTC#532773
I tried a repair and as much as I hoped, I got what was expected, same results. Now I am in the process of a reformat. Guess in the end I was resigned tio this. I used the "files and settings transfer" wizard to backup settings and some folders to my secondary drive. I hope I did it right.......never having used this wizard before, is transfering back just as easy? I have a large DAT file in my backup folder I created, do I double click that, or is it obvious what to do in reverse in the wizard? As far as ghosting my drive, I have serious video issues and that would just duplicate the same problems as originally trying to fix. I guess turning off system restore is a bad idea just to save some space?!?! Thanks again Verne
Quoted text (27 lines)> Thats the repair console. > This may help ya a bit > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314058 > Personally I've not had much luck saving an install in the repair console. > Do you have your data backed up? Thats primarily what Ive used the > console for then I do a fresh re-install of the OS after my data is safe. > If youre data is safe already (as it should be) then do a clean install > and be done. After you get xp setup nice then do a ghost or similar image > for future headache savings ;) > I dont feel right if I dont do a fresh install every 6 months anyway, > hehe. > Mitch >> Ok, cool. That did it. I had walked away for a minute while booting >> expecting a prompt...my bad. My problem now, having never set an admin >> passwor, when it gets to that point in the repair menu, I hit enter and >> get the next C:\windows prompt........then it just sits there, is there >> some kind of command I am supposed to type ? I get stuck at that point >> now. thanks >> V
"V "fnugen"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ncf3f.5218$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)>I tried a repair and as much as I hoped, I got what was expected, same >results. Now I am in the process of a reformat. Guess in the end I was >resigned tio this. I used the "files and settings transfer" wizard to >backup settings and some folders to my secondary drive. I hope I did it >right.......never having used this wizard before, is transfering back just >as easy? I have a large DAT file in my backup folder I created, do I double >click that, or is it obvious what to do in reverse in the wizard? As far as >ghosting my drive, I have serious video issues and that would just >duplicate the same problems as originally trying to fix. I guess turning >off system restore is a bad idea just to save some space?!?! Thanks >again > > Verne >
If you are already in Windows you can do it from there. Just go along like you are doing a new install until you get to the point that XP finds your old install. It will then ask you what you want to do with it. Select "R" for repair and go from there. It works almost all the time just fine. There are some cases that it will mess some things up, but I have always had very good luck. You will most likely have to do an online activation or even make a short phone call because of your new equipment but that is no biggie. You would have the same thing with a format and a reinstall. Ed

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