OT: You won't beleive what I heard on the radio

I was listening to talk radio on this the day after the WTT attack. Lots of outraged callers, lots of touchy feely types that thought retaliation would lower ourselves to their level. BUT ONE WOMAN STOLE THE SHOW. I would guess by the sound of her voice she was somewhere in the 40's to 50's range in age. Thats just a guess tho...but here is what she called in for... This local woman (Spokane Washington in the upper NW corner of the USA) called in a Radio talk show and complained that all her SOAP OPERA TV shows were being interupted by the continuing coverage of the disaster. The host was flabbergasted and gave her a chance to pull back , he asked her if she didn't care that maybe 30,000 Americans could be buried in the rubble of the WTT. "Don't you care about them?" he asked.... She paused a moment and then said... 'Well...No I don't' The radio host promptly cut her off and shut her off. We Americans can be a strange lot. dave henrie

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 03:23:02 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> This local woman (Spokane Washington in the upper NW corner of the USA) >called in a Radio talk show and complained that all her SOAP OPERA TV shows >were being interupted by the continuing coverage of the disaster. > The host was flabbergasted and gave her a chance to pull back , he asked >her if she didn't care that maybe 30,000 Americans could be buried in the >rubble of the WTT. "Don't you care about them?" he asked.... > She paused a moment and then said... > 'Well...No I don't' > The radio host promptly cut her off and shut her off. >We Americans can be a strange lot. >dave henrie

Hopefully this is simply someone who really wanted to hear her voice on the radio and thought of the most outrageous thing that she could in order to do so. It is unimaginable to me that a fellow human being could actually feel this way at a time like this. I prefer to think that it is simply not possible (no matter how closed minded and misguided that notion might be.) Todd Walker GPLRank: +72.27 (Held back by the @#$% Ring) twalker at jam dot rr dot com http://twalker.d2g.com/gpl

I wonder how'd she feel if one of her family members were inside one of the two WT Buildings? "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qEVn7.3050$[email hidden]... | I was listening to talk radio on this the day after the WTT attack.Lots | of outraged callers, lots of touchy feely types that thought retaliation | would lower ourselves to their level. BUT ONE WOMAN STOLE THE SHOW. I | would guess by the sound of her voice she was somewhere in the 40's to50's | range in age. Thats just a guess tho...but here is what she called in | for... | | | This local woman (Spokane Washington in the upper NW corner of the USA) | called in a Radio talk show and complained that all her SOAP OPERA TVshows

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| were being interupted by the continuing coverage of the disaster. | The host was flabbergasted and gave her a chance to pull back , he asked | her if she didn't care that maybe 30,000 Americans could be buried in the | rubble of the WTT. "Don't you care about them?" he asked.... | She paused a moment and then said... | 'Well...No I don't' | The radio host promptly cut her off and shut her off. | We Americans can be a strange lot. | dave henrie | | | | | | | | | | | | |

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I feel the same way as her. People die every day from horrible things in the world. There is no difference between the hundreds of people that got murdered from Tuesdays happenings to the hundreds of people that got murdered the day before. People are getting killed in other countrys all the time, yet nobody cares much if at all when they hear about it, if they hear about it at all. On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 04:43:59 GMT, [email hidden] (Todd Walker) wrote:

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>On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 03:23:02 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >> This local woman (Spokane Washington in the upper NW corner of the USA) >>called in a Radio talk show and complained that all her SOAP OPERA TV shows >>were being interupted by the continuing coverage of the disaster. >> The host was flabbergasted and gave her a chance to pull back , he asked >>her if she didn't care that maybe 30,000 Americans could be buried in the >>rubble of the WTT. "Don't you care about them?" he asked.... >> She paused a moment and then said... >> 'Well...No I don't' >> The radio host promptly cut her off and shut her off. >>We Americans can be a strange lot. >>dave henrie > >Hopefully this is simply someone who really wanted to hear her voice >on the radio and thought of the most outrageous thing that she could >in order to do so. It is unimaginable to me that a fellow human being >could actually feel this way at a time like this. I prefer to think >that it is simply not possible (no matter how closed minded and >misguided that notion might be.) > >Todd Walker >GPLRank: +72.27 (Held back by the @#$% Ring) >twalker at jam dot rr dot com >http://twalker.d2g.com/gpl

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> I feel the same way as her. > People die every day from horrible things in the world. > There is no difference between the hundreds of > people that got murdered from Tuesdays happenings to the hundreds > of people that got murdered the day before. People are getting killed > in other countrys all the time, yet nobody cares much if at all when > they hear about it, if they hear about it at all.

Believe me, I won't care much when you pass away, sport.

"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:68Xn7.5036$[email hidden]... : I wonder how'd she feel if one of her family members were inside one of : the two WT Buildings? : I'll bet she'll hit the roof when her retirement fund statement is late because the company's data centre is now under a smouldering pile of rubble... Dale.

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 03:23:02 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > The radio host promptly cut her off and shut her off. >We Americans can be a strange lot. >dave henrie in the same vein, there are probably folks bitching right now about cancelling their upcoming visits to the towers. i'm not surprised at the diverse reaction of people. i don't think anybody was able to think coherently for a while after the event and many attempts to deal with it came across as being callous or inhumane. However, some of them genuinely came from crass and ignorant folk. as an example, i logged on to my local isp's home page as CNN.com was being hammered. they had an opinion poll up. it went something like this. New Yorks twin towers of the World Trade Centre have both been hit by passenger planes. Do you think it is? a) A freak accident b) Terrorist attack c) Ploy by US Dept of Defence for more budget funding I was disgusted and voiced my anger on the comment page along with many others. About an hour later, the poll was altered, all criticisms were removed and no apology was issued. Enough people though had seen this and were pissed off enough to cause major shit for the guy who created the poll. Serves him right. I'm still struggling with the event itself and I can't believe some of the reactions. And then I am supposed to reassure my daughters fears now... Regards all, istoff "Its easy to get lost in thought if you don't go there often" - Me, 1993

In my local newspaper today, they went to the local university and asked some students the question "How do you feel about the attacks on America?" One of our brightest commented "I don't care much. Hopefully it should roll over like anything else." Thankfully, the other nine students who's responses were published indicated that they felt SOMETHING about the tragedy. Maybe there is some hope for the future. Gary Dave Henrie wrote:

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> > I was listening to talk radio on this the day after the WTT attack. Lots > of outraged callers, lots of touchy feely types that thought retaliation > would lower ourselves to their level. BUT ONE WOMAN STOLE THE SHOW. I > would guess by the sound of her voice she was somewhere in the 40's to 50's > range in age. Thats just a guess tho...but here is what she called in > for... > > This local woman (Spokane Washington in the upper NW corner of the USA) > called in a Radio talk show and complained that all her SOAP OPERA TV shows > were being interupted by the continuing coverage of the disaster. > The host was flabbergasted and gave her a chance to pull back , he asked > her if she didn't care that maybe 30,000 Americans could be buried in the > rubble of the WTT. "Don't you care about them?" he asked.... > She paused a moment and then said... > 'Well...No I don't' > The radio host promptly cut her off and shut her off. > We Americans can be a strange lot. > dave henrie

yea istoff, their mother is their father sister's oldest daughter.. InBreeDinG <istoff> | However, some of them genuinely came from crass and | ignorant folk. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.276 / Virus Database: 145 - Release Date: 9/3/2001

WB <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I feel the same way as her. >People die every day from horrible things in the world. >There is no difference between the hundreds of >people that got murdered from Tuesdays happenings to the hundreds >of people that got murdered the day before. People are getting killed >in other countrys all the time, yet nobody cares much if at all when >they hear about it, if they hear about it at all. > >

I'm not sure when the last time 10,000-30,000 people died in such a high profile event but the media is beating us to death with it. I admit I was glued to the set for most of Tues and even a few hours today but I'm curious as to "when is enough enough". Sure this whole thing is tragic but the news seems to be determined to force those images down our throat for the past 48 hours. I'm not fortunate enough to have cable so I have 6 channels of LIVE coverage. And the real problem is that there is nothing NEW to report. They keep rehashing the same crap over and over as an excuse to loop the video in the corner of the screen. Thank God UPN and WB finally resumed normal programming so I can find something to laugh at again after 2 days of not even being able to smile. Healing can't begin until normal life is restored. The fact that MLB has cancelled their games and Big Ten has cancelled weekend football just gives MORE power to the terrorists. Everything that US citizens are forced to give up (no matter how trivial) is something the terrorist can add to their victory list. The depths this event is reaching is amazing. Upcoming video games are being edited, movies are being edited, delayed (possibly cancelled). This Sunday ID4 and PeaceMaker were supposed to be on network TV. Both replaced with "feel good" movies so we don't upset anyone or see another NY skyscraper get blasted. Seem kind of ironic. After 4 days of watching the WTC crumble to the ground everyone should be plenty desensitized to falling buildings regardless of if it was aliens or terrorists. America seems very obsessive and determined to wallow in misery. Give some blood - go to a candlelight prayer service then MOVE ON with our lives despite all the attempts to cancel life's other activities that might get our minds off this tragedy. As long as we our forced to give up life's everyday pleasures and constantly be reminded of Tuesday's events by every media outlet the terrorists keep winning - even the dead ones. -------------------- Sinjin www.SinjinSolves.com Your Guide to Success

WB <[email hidden]> wrote on 13 Sep 2001:

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> I feel the same way as her. > People die every day from horrible things in the world. > There is no difference between the hundreds of > people that got murdered from Tuesdays happenings to the hundreds > of people that got murdered the day before. People are getting > killed in other countrys all the time, yet nobody cares much if at > all when they hear about it, if they hear about it at all.

The one part of your reply that is halfway reasonable is your implication that the US media is (with a few honourable exceptions) very insular compared to the press here in Europe, and that's undoubtedly true. *However*... I think this *is* different to anything else. This is the single biggest terrorist attack *ever*. It is the biggest one-day loss of life on US soil since Antietam in 1862. It is the first *ever* large-scale attack on a NATO country, which has lead to the first *ever* implementation of Article Five[1]. This means in effect that, declared or not, every country in NATO is now at war. [1] which says that an attack on one member state is to be considered as an attack on all. -- "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. What was he on about? See http://www.shelsley-walsh.co.uk Banish those hardwood floors! http://www.carpetfoundation.com

David, Now this is an interesting fact. Did you actually know this yourself, or did you hear it someplace? I only ask because in all the media coverage so far in the U.S., I've never heard it mentioned. Unfortunately, this is probably because most U.S. citizens (and media idiots, for that matter), will have no idea what Anteitam means. -- Pat Dotson David Buttery wrote: > > ...It is the biggest one-day loss > of life on US soil since Antietam in 1862.

For those who aren't familiar with Antietam: "The Battle of Antietam (or Sharpsburg) on September 17, 1862, climaxed the first of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee's two attempts to carry the war into the North. About 40,000 Southerners were pitted against the 87,000-man Federal Army of the Potomac under Gen. George B. McClellan. And when the fighting ended, the course of the American Civil War had been greatly altered. "More men were killed or wounded at Antietam on September 17, 1862, than on any other single day of the Civil War. Federal losses were 12,410, Confederate losses 10,700. Although neither side gained a decisive victory, Lee's failure to carry the war effort effectively into the North caused Great Britain to postpone recognition of the Confederate government. The battle also gave President Abraham Lincoln the opportunity to issue the Emancipation Proclamation, which, on January 1, 1863, declared free all slaves in States still in rebellion against the United States. Now the war had a dual purpose: to preserve the Union and end slavery." http://www.civilwarhome.com/antietamdescription.htm -- JB On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:01:22 -0500, Pat Dotson <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>David, > >Now this is an interesting fact. Did you actually know >this yourself, or did you hear it someplace? I only >ask because in all the media coverage so far in the U.S., >I've never heard it mentioned. > >Unfortunately, this is probably because most U.S. citizens >(and media idiots, for that matter), will have no idea >what Anteitam means. > >-- >Pat Dotson > >David Buttery wrote: >> >> ...It is the biggest one-day loss >> of life on US soil since Antietam in 1862.

Hey, I knew this! but did you know that Dave H was there too? :) "John Bodin" wrote: | For those who aren't familiar with Antietam: | | "The Battle of Antietam (or Sharpsburg) on September 17, 1862, | climaxed the first of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee's two attempts to<znipped> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.276 / Virus Database: 145 - Release Date: 9/3/2001

Dave, This women is certainly certifiable. Tracker99 "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qEVn7.3050$[email hidden]... > I was listening to talk radio on this the day after the WTT attack.Lots > of outraged callers, lots of touchy feely types that thought retaliation > would lower ourselves to their level. BUT ONE WOMAN STOLE THE SHOW. I > would guess by the sound of her voice she was somewhere in the 40's to50's > range in age. Thats just a guess tho...but here is what she called in > for... > > > This local woman (Spokane Washington in the upper NW corner of the USA) > called in a Radio talk show and complained that all her SOAP OPERA TVshows

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> were being interupted by the continuing coverage of the disaster. > The host was flabbergasted and gave her a chance to pull back , he asked > her if she didn't care that maybe 30,000 Americans could be buried in the > rubble of the WTT. "Don't you care about them?" he asked.... > She paused a moment and then said... > 'Well...No I don't' > The radio host promptly cut her off and shut her off. > We Americans can be a strange lot. > dave henrie > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Pat Dotson <[email hidden]> wrote on 13 Sep 2001:

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> David Buttery wrote: >> >> ...It is the biggest one-day loss >> of life on US soil since Antietam in 1862. > David, > > Now this is an interesting fact. Did you actually know > this yourself, or did you hear it someplace? I only > ask because in all the media coverage so far in the U.S., > I've never heard it mentioned.

<snip> Got it off the radio. As to you not hearing it in the US, I'm very surprised to hear that - I'd have thought it would be something mentioned often over there, especially with all the talk of war in the air right now. I have a dreadful fear that my remarks may prove not to be true, though - about 23,000 people died at Antietam (figures from John Bodin's post in this thread), and the estimates for the dead we're getting over here start at 5,000 and go anything up to 40,000. And one more grim statistic - it seems certain that this will be the most Britons killed in any terrorist outrage - Jack Straw, our Foreign Secretary, has predicted that the final toll will be at least in the "middle hundreds", and at least one newspaper has said 1,000. If it's of interest, I got the Antietam statistic first from BBC Radio 5 Live, which I have on pretty much all the time at the moment. It's a news and sport station, but obviously there's a lot more news than sport right now. Anyone who's interested in how the UK is covering things could do a lot worse than to have a listen: http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive -- "Out of darkness cometh light" - city motto of Wolverhampton. http://msnbc.com/news/627166.asp?cp1=1

that is NOT STRANGE did you note how some people on the street behaved in the LIVE coverage ??? it is almost like business as usual..........?? or is it just new yorkers. Todd Walker <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 03:23:02 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > This local woman (Spokane Washington in the upper NW corner of the USA) > >called in a Radio talk show and complained that all her SOAP OPERA TVshows > >were being interupted by the continuing coverage of the disaster. > > The host was flabbergasted and gave her a chance to pull back , heasked

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> >her if she didn't care that maybe 30,000 Americans could be buried in the > >rubble of the WTT. "Don't you care about them?" he asked.... > > She paused a moment and then said... > > 'Well...No I don't' > > The radio host promptly cut her off and shut her off. > >We Americans can be a strange lot. > >dave henrie > > Hopefully this is simply someone who really wanted to hear her voice > on the radio and thought of the most outrageous thing that she could > in order to do so. It is unimaginable to me that a fellow human being > could actually feel this way at a time like this. I prefer to think > that it is simply not possible (no matter how closed minded and > misguided that notion might be.) > > Todd Walker > GPLRank: +72.27 (Held back by the @#$% Ring) > twalker at jam dot rr dot com > http://twalker.d2g.com/gpl >

Well, Sometimes you get people using this sort of thing to get some attention.... just like Trolls in Usenet.... what ca you do..it's a strange world. Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qEVn7.3050$[email hidden]... > I was listening to talk radio on this the day after the WTT attack.Lots > of outraged callers, lots of touchy feely types that thought retaliation > would lower ourselves to their level. BUT ONE WOMAN STOLE THE SHOW. I > would guess by the sound of her voice she was somewhere in the 40's to50's > range in age. Thats just a guess tho...but here is what she called in > for... > > > This local woman (Spokane Washington in the upper NW corner of the USA) > called in a Radio talk show and complained that all her SOAP OPERA TVshows

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> were being interupted by the continuing coverage of the disaster. > The host was flabbergasted and gave her a chance to pull back , he asked > her if she didn't care that maybe 30,000 Americans could be buried in the > rubble of the WTT. "Don't you care about them?" he asked.... > She paused a moment and then said... > 'Well...No I don't' > The radio host promptly cut her off and shut her off. > We Americans can be a strange lot. > dave henrie > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Man that woman is an idiot. -- Free Email! http://www.onlineautoracing.com "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qEVn7.3050$[email hidden]... > I was listening to talk radio on this the day after the WTT attack. Lots > of outraged callers, lots of touchy feely types that thought retaliation > would lower ourselves to their level. BUT ONE WOMAN STOLE THE SHOW. I > would guess by the sound of her voice she was somewhere in the 40's to 50's > range in age. Thats just a guess tho...but here is what she called in > for... > > > This local woman (Spokane Washington in the upper NW corner of the USA) > called in a Radio talk show and complained that all her SOAP OPERA TV shows > were being interupted by the continuing coverage of the disaster. > The host was flabbergasted and gave her a chance to pull back , he asked > her if she didn't care that maybe 30,000 Americans could be buried in the > rubble of the WTT. "Don't you care about them?" he asked.... > She paused a moment and then said... > 'Well...No I don't' > The radio host promptly cut her off and shut her off. > We Americans can be a strange lot. > dave henrie > > > > > > > > > > > > >

In article <[email hidden]>, "Gill Bates" <[email hidden]> writes: >that is NOT STRANGE > >did you note how some people on the street behaved >in the LIVE coverage ??? >You mean the people behind the commentators smiling and waving trying to get on TV? I was saddened by that... WTF is WRONG with people...? > >it is almost like business as usual..........?? >or is it just new yorkers. I really think the same might have happened in ANY big city. In a smaller one, the community would be more close-knit. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +360.54... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

oh yeah and to the US friends that i have made down the years on this forum and in the Nascar2/3/4 & GPL/VROC fraternities, most people in the UK are right behind your great country and thinking of you at this time. On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:19:49 GMT, Gary Stephenson <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>In my local newspaper today, they went to the local university and asked >some students the question "How do you feel about the attacks on >America?" One of our brightest commented "I don't care much. Hopefully >it should roll over like anything else." Thankfully, the other nine >students who's responses were published indicated that they felt >SOMETHING about the tragedy. Maybe there is some hope for the future. > >Gary > >Dave Henrie wrote: >> >> I was listening to talk radio on this the day after the WTT attack. Lots >> of outraged callers, lots of touchy feely types that thought retaliation >> would lower ourselves to their level. BUT ONE WOMAN STOLE THE SHOW. I >> would guess by the sound of her voice she was somewhere in the 40's to 50's >> range in age. Thats just a guess tho...but here is what she called in >> for... >> >> This local woman (Spokane Washington in the upper NW corner of the USA) >> called in a Radio talk show and complained that all her SOAP OPERA TV shows >> were being interupted by the continuing coverage of the disaster. >> The host was flabbergasted and gave her a chance to pull back , he asked >> her if she didn't care that maybe 30,000 Americans could be buried in the >> rubble of the WTT. "Don't you care about them?" he asked.... >> She paused a moment and then said... >> 'Well...No I don't' >> The radio host promptly cut her off and shut her off. >> We Americans can be a strange lot. >> dave henrie