Game controller ID's changing randomly

I have a Logitech Formula Force, Saitek X-36, and Gravis Gamepad Pro, all USB, and every time i restart windows 98se, the controller ID's are different. This is a problem since most games set the controls based on the ID. I cant even get the Saitek profiler to work unless it's on ID 1. Anyone know how to fix this stupid problem? I think it's insane the most popular OS has such basic problems with game controllers.

Roy.... This sounds like the typical USB drivers bug.....it takes many forms....this is one of them. You didn't tell us what hardware and system specs you have, but my guess is you have an Intel platform.....since the problem doesn't seem to be as prevalent on AMD platforms (AMD platform USB implementation uses different chipset drivers than does Intel). Here's what you can do: 1. If you have an Intel mobo.....go update your chipset drivers for it (Intel website). 2. Search the MS KB for USB patches (for Win98SE) for your control systems (I know for sure there is one for TM NAS Pro Digital-2 USB controllers). 3. If none of this solves the problem (I'd give #1 and/or #2 a 90% chance that it will, however), then uninstall all of your controllers. Do a "registry search-and-clean" of all entries related to your controllers....also do the same with your c:\drive files and folders (you should be able to get a file name list for all your controller driver files via DXDiag...or contact the controller manufacturer). Once done, install your primary controller. Then install each of the other secondary controllers one at a time (uninstalling each one......so that only two controllers are listed in your Control Panel ID at any time....the primary....and one of the secondaries).......testing for the problem with each secondary you add. If #1 and/or #2 didn't fix the problem....then its one of your controller drivers causing it....this is the only way to find out which one. Then.....go to that manufacturer....report the problem and see if they have updated drivers available. I know this is a hassle.....but your problem won't just go away without taking the steps above. I haven't had this issue for over a year now.....perhaps there's an easier solution available now? Can anyone who has more current knowledge of this issue....add anything....or give Roy more updated suggestions? My information, personally.....is from experience of more than a year ago....but I have continued to read of this problem as recently as last week (don't remember where)......so if anyone can provide more current information for Roy....that would be great. What a hassle.....I know....I had it too. Regards, Tom

Actually i have an AMD.... its an Abit KT7-RAID mobo "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tc5q7.22591$L%[email hidden]... > Roy.... > > This sounds like the typical USB drivers bug.....it takes manyforms....this > is one of them. > > You didn't tell us what hardware and system specs you have, but my guessis

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> you have an Intel platform.....since the problem doesn't seem to be as > prevalent on AMD platforms (AMD platform USB implementation uses different > chipset drivers than does Intel). > > Here's what you can do: > > 1. If you have an Intel mobo.....go update your chipset drivers for it > (Intel website). > 2. Search the MS KB for USB patches (for Win98SE) for your control

systems > (I know for sure there is one for TM NAS Pro Digital-2 USB controllers). > 3. If none of this solves the problem (I'd give #1 and/or #2 a 90% chance > that it will, however), then uninstall all of your controllers. Do a > "registry search-and-clean" of all entries related to your > controllers....also do the same with your c:\drive files and folders (you > should be able to get a file name list for all your controller driverfiles > via DXDiag...or contact the controller manufacturer). Once done, install > your primary controller. Then install each of the other secondary > controllers one at a time (uninstalling each one......so that only two > controllers are listed in your Control Panel ID at any time....the > primary....and one of the secondaries).......testing for the problem with > each secondary you add. If #1 and/or #2 didn't fix the problem....thenits

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> one of your controller drivers causing it....this is the only way to find > out which one. Then.....go to that manufacturer....report the problem and > see if they have updated drivers available. > > I know this is a hassle.....but your problem won't just go away without > taking the steps above. > > I haven't had this issue for over a year now.....perhaps there's an easier > solution available now? Can anyone who has more current knowledge of this > issue....add anything....or give Roy more updated suggestions? My > information, personally.....is from experience of more than a year > ago....but I have continued to read of this problem as recently as last

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> (don't remember where)......so if anyone can provide more current > information for Roy....that would be great. > > What a hassle.....I know....I had it too. > > Regards, > > Tom > > >

Are you able to use the Quickjoy utility to set controller IDs? Just a thought... Rafe Mc On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:42:57 -0400, "roy" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Actually i have an AMD.... its an Abit KT7-RAID mobo > >"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:tc5q7.22591$L%[email hidden]... >> Roy.... >> >> This sounds like the typical USB drivers bug.....it takes many >forms....this >> is one of them. >> >> You didn't tell us what hardware and system specs you have, but my guess >is >> you have an Intel platform.....since the problem doesn't seem to be as >> prevalent on AMD platforms (AMD platform USB implementation uses different >> chipset drivers than does Intel). >> >> Here's what you can do: >> >> 1. If you have an Intel mobo.....go update your chipset drivers for it >> (Intel website). >> 2. Search the MS KB for USB patches (for Win98SE) for your control >systems >> (I know for sure there is one for TM NAS Pro Digital-2 USB controllers). >> 3. If none of this solves the problem (I'd give #1 and/or #2 a 90% chance >> that it will, however), then uninstall all of your controllers. Do a >> "registry search-and-clean" of all entries related to your >> controllers....also do the same with your c:\drive files and folders (you >> should be able to get a file name list for all your controller driver >files >> via DXDiag...or contact the controller manufacturer). Once done, install >> your primary controller. Then install each of the other secondary >> controllers one at a time (uninstalling each one......so that only two >> controllers are listed in your Control Panel ID at any time....the >> primary....and one of the secondaries).......testing for the problem with >> each secondary you add. If #1 and/or #2 didn't fix the problem....then >its >> one of your controller drivers causing it....this is the only way to find >> out which one. Then.....go to that manufacturer....report the problem and >> see if they have updated drivers available. >> >> I know this is a hassle.....but your problem won't just go away without >> taking the steps above. >> >> I haven't had this issue for over a year now.....perhaps there's an easier >> solution available now? Can anyone who has more current knowledge of this >> issue....add anything....or give Roy more updated suggestions? My >> information, personally.....is from experience of more than a year >> ago....but I have continued to read of this problem as recently as last >week >> (don't remember where)......so if anyone can provide more current >> information for Roy....that would be great. >> >> What a hassle.....I know....I had it too. >> >> Regards, >> >> Tom >> >> >> > >

QuickJoy doesn't work with 2K/XP, unfortunately :( -Larry "Rafe McAuliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Are you able to use the Quickjoy utility to set controller IDs? Just a > thought... > > Rafe Mc > > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:42:57 -0400, "roy" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Actually i have an AMD.... its an Abit KT7-RAID mobo > > > >"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:tc5q7.22591$L%[email hidden]... > >> Roy.... > >> > >> This sounds like the typical USB drivers bug.....it takes many > >forms....this > >> is one of them. > >> > >> You didn't tell us what hardware and system specs you have, but my

guess > >is > >> you have an Intel platform.....since the problem doesn't seem to be as > >> prevalent on AMD platforms (AMD platform USB implementation usesdifferent

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> >> chipset drivers than does Intel). > >> > >> Here's what you can do: > >> > >> 1. If you have an Intel mobo.....go update your chipset drivers for it > >> (Intel website). > >> 2. Search the MS KB for USB patches (for Win98SE) for your control > >systems > >> (I know for sure there is one for TM NAS Pro Digital-2 USB

controllers). > >> 3. If none of this solves the problem (I'd give #1 and/or #2 a 90%chance > >> that it will, however), then uninstall all of your controllers. Do a > >> "registry search-and-clean" of all entries related to your > >> controllers....also do the same with your c:\drive files and folders(you > >> should be able to get a file name list for all your controller driver > >files > >> via DXDiag...or contact the controller manufacturer). Once done,install > >> your primary controller. Then install each of the other secondary > >> controllers one at a time (uninstalling each one......so that only two > >> controllers are listed in your Control Panel ID at any time....the > >> primary....and one of the secondaries).......testing for the problemwith > >> each secondary you add. If #1 and/or #2 didn't fix the problem....then > >its > >> one of your controller drivers causing it....this is the only way tofind > >> out which one. Then.....go to that manufacturer....report the problemand > >> see if they have updated drivers available. > >> > >> I know this is a hassle.....but your problem won't just go away without > >> taking the steps above. > >> > >> I haven't had this issue for over a year now.....perhaps there's aneasier > >> solution available now? Can anyone who has more current knowledge ofthis

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> >> issue....add anything....or give Roy more updated suggestions? My > >> information, personally.....is from experience of more than a year > >> ago....but I have continued to read of this problem as recently as last > >week > >> (don't remember where)......so if anyone can provide more current > >> information for Roy....that would be great. > >> > >> What a hassle.....I know....I had it too. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> > >> > > > > >

I use Quickjoy for even my FF TM USB and FF Guillemot USB controllers.. It works just great! :) "Rafe McAuliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | Are you able to use the Quickjoy utility to set controller IDs? Just a | thought... | | Rafe Mc<snipped for BW> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/2001

That stinks! :( "Quickjoy" really saves time and aggravation when switching from one game controller to another via a clickity click!! :) "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nFKr7.16638$[email hidden]... | QuickJoy doesn't work with 2K/XP, unfortunately :( | | -Larry<snipped fer bw> --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/2001

Bummer for those using 2k/xp, but Roy said he was using win98SE, so it might be an option. Rafe Mc On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:09:23 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >QuickJoy doesn't work with 2K/XP, unfortunately :( > >-Larry >