Direct x 8.1

Unlimited release http://txl.free.fr/directx Got it from the danish site, can't remember the name

Txl, This is the official retail (or whatever it's called) release? Not another defective beta? --Steve Smith "Txl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bac6389$0$6084$[email hidden]...

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> Unlimited release > > http://txl.free.fr/directx > > Got it from the danish site, can't remember the name > >

Not retail, it is Interim 3, aka version 682. /Jens "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse news:Co_q7.530847$[email hidden]...

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> Txl, > > This is the official retail (or whatever it's called) release? Not another > defective beta? > > --Steve Smith > > "Txl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3bac6389$0$6084$[email hidden]... > > Unlimited release > > > > http://txl.free.fr/directx > > > > Got it from the danish site, can't remember the name > > > > > >

yep, it doesn't tell you that direct draw has expried or something like that.... "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: Co_q7.530847$[email hidden]... > Txl, > > This is the official retail (or whatever it's called) release? Notanother

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> defective beta? > > --Steve Smith > > "Txl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3bac6389$0$6084$[email hidden]... > > Unlimited release > > > > http://txl.free.fr/directx > > > > Got it from the danish site, can't remember the name > > > > > > >

Why would you get a copy of DirectX anywhere but MS site? Don't be stupid and only d/l it directly from MS, there is NO good reason to ever d/l it from anywhere else. For all current DIrect X d/l's: www.microsoft.com/directx -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Txl <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bac6389$0$6084$[email hidden]... > Unlimited release > > http://txl.free.fr/directx > > Got it from the danish site, can't remember the name > >

because it's NOT available on the microsoft site, how is that for a good reason ? if you don't want don't get it, nobody's forcing you... "Biz" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: zH3r7.4849$[email hidden]...

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> Why would you get a copy of DirectX anywhere but MS site? Don't be stupid > and only d/l it directly from MS, there is NO good reason to ever d/l it > from anywhere else. For all current DIrect X d/l's: > > www.microsoft.com/directx > > > > -- > Biz > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and > the....." - Ash > > > Txl <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3bac6389$0$6084$[email hidden]... > > Unlimited release > > > > http://txl.free.fr/directx > > > > Got it from the danish site, can't remember the name > > > > > >

From http://www.gamevoice.com/Support/support.asp?Page=149 1.Go to www.betaplace.com 2.In the Beta ID field, type "DirectX81". 3.For the password, type "DirectPlay". 4.Follow the instructions for proceeding to the DirectX 8.1 download area and follow the instructions for downloading the DirectPlay 8.1 public beta. "Txl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tBjr7.1630$[email hidden]...

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> because it's NOT available on the microsoft site, how is that for a good > reason ? > > if you don't want don't get it, nobody's forcing you... > > > "Biz" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: > zH3r7.4849$[email hidden]... > > Why would you get a copy of DirectX anywhere but MS site? Don't be

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> > and only d/l it directly from MS, there is NO good reason to ever d/l it > > from anywhere else. For all current DIrect X d/l's: > > > > www.microsoft.com/directx > > > > > > > > -- > > Biz > > > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular

structures,....and

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> > the....." - Ash > > > > > > Txl <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3bac6389$0$6084$[email hidden]... > > > Unlimited release > > > > > > http://txl.free.fr/directx > > > > > > Got it from the danish site, can't remember the name > > > > > > > > > > > >

No good reason ever? How about being able to play your favorite games using your graphics board? Microsoft hardcoded support of various features to specific named chipsets knowing that boards not released at the time of DX8.0a would probably have support for those same features. Cheers, Jens "Never like ever is a very long time..." "Biz" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse news:zH3r7.4849$[email hidden]...

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> Why would you get a copy of DirectX anywhere but MS site? Don't be stupid > and only d/l it directly from MS, there is NO good reason to ever d/l it > from anywhere else. For all current DIrect X d/l's: > > www.microsoft.com/directx > > > > -- > Biz > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and > the....." - Ash > > > Txl <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3bac6389$0$6084$[email hidden]... > > Unlimited release > > > > http://txl.free.fr/directx > > > > Got it from the danish site, can't remember the name > > > > > >

the beta is expired, if you want to get the famous "direct draw beta expired, please update" message just do that. i'm beggining to get tired of all this suspicion, go to the directx NG and check for yourselves.... This is what happens when you try to help people, you always get the guy asking why doies he want to do this, there miust be a secret reason... I am the FBI and i have put a spyware in the dx version on my ftp and then i can see what is in your fridge if you use it... happy ? Sorry for the ranting but I'm quite fed up by now the file is on the ftp, you want it get it, you don't want it, don't get it "Per Lundkvist" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: 3bae082d$[email hidden]...

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> From http://www.gamevoice.com/Support/support.asp?Page=149 > > 1.Go to www.betaplace.com > 2.In the Beta ID field, type "DirectX81". > 3.For the password, type "DirectPlay". > 4.Follow the instructions for proceeding to the DirectX 8.1 download area > and follow the instructions for downloading the DirectPlay 8.1 public

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> > > "Txl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:tBjr7.1630$[email hidden]... > > because it's NOT available on the microsoft site, how is that for a good > > reason ? > > > > if you don't want don't get it, nobody's forcing you... > > > > > > "Biz" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: > > zH3r7.4849$[email hidden]... > > > Why would you get a copy of DirectX anywhere but MS site? Don't be > stupid > > > and only d/l it directly from MS, there is NO good reason to ever d/l

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> > > from anywhere else. For all current DIrect X d/l's: > > > > > > www.microsoft.com/directx > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Biz > > > > > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > > > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular > structures,....and > > > the....." - Ash > > > > > > > > > Txl <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:3bac6389$0$6084$[email hidden]... > > > > Unlimited release > > > > > > > > http://txl.free.fr/directx > > > > > > > > Got it from the danish site, can't remember the name > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

i'm as confused as you are dude,i certainly appreciate being able to try stuff first! btw,no probs here....:P keep 'em coming :P evphelps

Opps. Sorry I did not know that. Same here just tried to help. I found the info on a MS site and never tried it myself. "Txl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bae48ad$0$6082$[email hidden]...

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> the beta is expired, if you want to get the famous "direct draw beta > expired, please update" message just do that. > > i'm beggining to get tired of all this suspicion, go to the directx NG and > check for yourselves.... > > This is what happens when you try to help people, you always get the guy > asking why doies he want to do this, there miust be a secret reason... > > I am the FBI and i have put a spyware in the dx version on my ftp and then

i > can see what is in your fridge if you use it... happy ? > > Sorry for the ranting but I'm quite fed up by now > > the file is on the ftp, you want it get it, you don't want it, don't getit

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> > > "Per Lundkvist" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de > news: 3bae082d$[email hidden]... > > From http://www.gamevoice.com/Support/support.asp?Page=149 > > > > 1.Go to www.betaplace.com > > 2.In the Beta ID field, type "DirectX81". > > 3.For the password, type "DirectPlay". > > 4.Follow the instructions for proceeding to the DirectX 8.1 download

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> > and follow the instructions for downloading the DirectPlay 8.1 public > beta. > > > > > > "Txl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:tBjr7.1630$[email hidden]... > > > because it's NOT available on the microsoft site, how is that for a

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> > > reason ? > > > > > > if you don't want don't get it, nobody's forcing you... > > > > > > > > > "Biz" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: > > > zH3r7.4849$[email hidden]... > > > > Why would you get a copy of DirectX anywhere but MS site? Don't be > > stupid > > > > and only d/l it directly from MS, there is NO good reason to ever

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> it > > > > from anywhere else. For all current DIrect X d/l's: > > > > > > > > www.microsoft.com/directx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Biz > > > > > > > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't

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> > > > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular > > structures,....and > > > > the....." - Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > Txl <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:3bac6389$0$6084$[email hidden]... > > > > > Unlimited release > > > > > > > > > > http://txl.free.fr/directx > > > > > > > > > > Got it from the danish site, can't remember the name > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Txl... Evidently you've been a "beta tester" of DX 8.1? Or have followed its development. Can you give us some information about "why" we'd want to install it? This is a serious question....not trying to bust your chops for posting an *unofficial* MS source site for it (who cares anyway). By the way, I don't blame you for getting a little p.o'd at some of these posts. If someone (me) is running N4 and GPL on a GF2-ULTRA and GF3....all on high-end AMD platforms....is there a good reason to run DX 8.1 now? This could be helpful information for many trying to make a decision about this. Thanks in advance for your information. Regards, Tom

Hello I think Dx 8.0a still has a lot of bugs, i have tried "unoffically" the dx 8.1 beta and after a while it just got "expired" and I had to run 8.1 "unlimited". I think it is always best to get the latest release even if the performance is the same, if you install a future game (like WSC ha ha ha) and it uses the "enhancements" of dx 8.1 (whatever they might be) then you are already up to date on this.... Besides that I STRONLGY recommend the 21.81 nvidia drivers.... "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: %56s7.46506$L%[email hidden]...

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> Txl... > > Evidently you've been a "beta tester" of DX 8.1? Or have followed its > development. Can you give us some information about "why" we'd want to > install it? This is a serious question....not trying to bust your chops > for posting an *unofficial* MS source site for it (who cares anyway). > By the way, I don't blame you for getting a little p.o'd at some of > these posts. > > If someone (me) is running N4 and GPL on a GF2-ULTRA and GF3....all on > high-end AMD platforms....is there a good reason to run DX 8.1 now? > This could be helpful information for many trying to make a decision > about this. > > Thanks in advance for your information. > > Regards, > > Tom > > >

Supposedly DX 8.0 has 320 bugs in it. I have used 8.1 till it expired, then went back to 8.0, (shrugs shoulders) didn't notice any difference. Couldn't get the download from the site above, (either to busy or MS shut it down). >"I STRONLGY recommend the 21.81 nVidia drivers...." Why? Personally I think NVIDIA (GeFarce) is crap, Voodoo or OpenGL is much better IMAO. Looks great in Unreal Tournament, but.......................... The next video card that I may buy will either be a high end OpenGL card or Maybe a Matrox card. I remember running Nascar 1 with a Matrox Card using the specific exe for the Matrox card and it looked pretty good for the time. "Set the wayback machine to 1995 Sherman" Anybody in RAS use a Matrox Card? -- R.I.P. - William Joseph Dunlop OBE MBE 2/25/52 - 7/2/2000

Last I heard, they are backing away from the gaming market and focusing on business purchasers. Not that their products won't run games, but the drivers won't be updated for game compatibility etc. Matrox makes a great product, but like Rendition & 3dfx, they allowed the marketplace to pass them by. If I was a gamer and choosing a new vid card, a Matrox product would be my 3rd or 4th choice. dave henrie "REDLINE426" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:74ks7.20024$[email hidden]... > Supposedly DX 8.0 has 320 bugs in it. I have used 8.1 till it expired,then > went back to 8.0, (shrugs shoulders) didn't notice any difference. > > Couldn't get the download from the site above, (either to busy or MS shutit > down). > > >"I STRONLGY recommend the 21.81 nVidia drivers...." Why? > > Personally I think NVIDIA (GeFarce) is crap, Voodoo or OpenGL is muchbetter > IMAO. > Looks great in Unreal Tournament, but.......................... > > The next video card that I may buy will either be a high end OpenGL cardor

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> Maybe a Matrox card. > I remember running Nascar 1 with a Matrox Card using the specific exe for > the Matrox card and it looked pretty good for the time. "Set the wayback > machine to 1995 Sherman" > > Anybody in RAS use a Matrox Card? > > > -- > R.I.P. - William Joseph Dunlop OBE MBE 2/25/52 - 7/2/2000 > > >

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:51:32 -0400, "REDLINE426" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Supposedly DX 8.0 has 320 bugs in it. I have used 8.1 till it expired, then >went back to 8.0, (shrugs shoulders) didn't notice any difference. > >Couldn't get the download from the site above, (either to busy or MS shut it >down). > >>"I STRONLGY recommend the 21.81 nVidia drivers...." Why? > >Personally I think NVIDIA (GeFarce) is crap, Voodoo or OpenGL is much better >IMAO.

I went through just about all the 3dfx and nvidia chipsets. 3dfx had a head start, then nvidia opened a can of whup-ass on 3dfx and killed them - with better product. No other vendor has maintained a position at the top of the performance curve. The nvidia viper era hardware was crap, TNT was adequate, GeForce and up is excellent. 3dfx were in slow motion and got left behind. The drivers have always been the weakest link for nvidia (and the slow development of directx). The 21.81 drivers with Windows XP are working very well on my PC - both directx and OpenGL work great in GPL. Keith.

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:51:32 -0400, "REDLINE426" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Personally I think NVIDIA (GeFarce) is crap, Voodoo or OpenGL is much better >IMAO. >Looks great in Unreal Tournament, but.......................... The above is a bit of a contradiction. The Geforce cards have the best OpenGL implementation on the consumer market. Show me one other card that does OpenGL better. 3DFX had crap OpenGL drivers.

Keith-- I'm running a Geforce2 GTS 64 meg--when I run opengl in GPL at 1280 resolution, the screen is black when I exit the racing screen. Have you encountered that, and if so, how did you fix it? I would like to run OpenGL for the better visual quality over the D3D patch. Thanks in advance. Alan keith <keith> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:51:32 -0400, "REDLINE426" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Supposedly DX 8.0 has 320 bugs in it. I have used 8.1 till it expired, then > >went back to 8.0, (shrugs shoulders) didn't notice any difference. > > > >Couldn't get the download from the site above, (either to busy or MS shut it > >down). > > > >>"I STRONLGY recommend the 21.81 nVidia drivers...." Why? > > > >Personally I think NVIDIA (GeFarce) is crap, Voodoo or OpenGL is much better > >IMAO. > > > I went through just about all the 3dfx and nvidia chipsets. 3dfx had a head start, > then nvidia opened a can of whup-ass on 3dfx and killed them - with better product. > No other vendor has maintained a position at the top of the performance curve. The > nvidia viper era hardware was crap, TNT was adequate, GeForce and up is excellent. > 3dfx were in slow motion and got left behind. The drivers have always been the > weakest link for nvidia (and the slow development of directx). The 21.81 drivers with > Windows XP are working very well on my PC - both directx and OpenGL work great in > GPL. > > > Keith.

Need 'how to' on setup of GPL with OpenGL running GeForce Ultra! On 26 Sep 2001 18:15:21 -0700, [email hidden] (Alan Nash) wrote:

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>Keith-- > >I'm running a Geforce2 GTS 64 meg--when I run opengl in GPL at 1280 >resolution, the screen is black when I exit the racing screen. Have >you encountered that, and if so, how did you fix it? I would like to >run OpenGL for the better visual quality over the D3D patch. > >Thanks in advance. > >Alan > > >keith <keith> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... >> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:51:32 -0400, "REDLINE426" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >Supposedly DX 8.0 has 320 bugs in it. I have used 8.1 till it expired, then >> >went back to 8.0, (shrugs shoulders) didn't notice any difference. >> > >> >Couldn't get the download from the site above, (either to busy or MS shut it >> >down). >> > >> >>"I STRONLGY recommend the 21.81 nVidia drivers...." Why? >> > >> >Personally I think NVIDIA (GeFarce) is crap, Voodoo or OpenGL is much better >> >IMAO. >> >> >> I went through just about all the 3dfx and nvidia chipsets. 3dfx had a head start, >> then nvidia opened a can of whup-ass on 3dfx and killed them - with better product. >> No other vendor has maintained a position at the top of the performance curve. The >> nvidia viper era hardware was crap, TNT was adequate, GeForce and up is excellent. >> 3dfx were in slow motion and got left behind. The drivers have always been the >> weakest link for nvidia (and the slow development of directx). The 21.81 drivers with >> Windows XP are working very well on my PC - both directx and OpenGL work great in >> GPL. >> >> >> Keith.

There were two versions of an unsupported beta patch that used to be at Papy.com for opengl. However, I have generally got the feeling that most of the non-3dfx folks have found the performance and visual quality of the d3d patch to be better than the opengl. As always, everybody perceives things a-little differently. dave henrie "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Need 'how to' on setup of GPL with OpenGL running GeForce Ultra! > > > On 26 Sep 2001 18:15:21 -0700, [email hidden] (Alan Nash) > wrote: > > >Keith-- > > > >I'm running a Geforce2 GTS 64 meg--when I run opengl in GPL at 1280 > >resolution, the screen is black when I exit the racing screen. Have > >you encountered that, and if so, how did you fix it? I would like to > >run OpenGL for the better visual quality over the D3D patch. > > > >Thanks in advance. > > > >Alan > > > > > >keith <keith> wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>... > >> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:51:32 -0400, "REDLINE426" <[email hidden]>wrote: > >> > >> >Supposedly DX 8.0 has 320 bugs in it. I have used 8.1 till it expired,then > >> >went back to 8.0, (shrugs shoulders) didn't notice any difference. > >> > > >> >Couldn't get the download from the site above, (either to busy or MSshut it > >> >down). > >> > > >> >>"I STRONLGY recommend the 21.81 nVidia drivers...." Why? > >> > > >> >Personally I think NVIDIA (GeFarce) is crap, Voodoo or OpenGL is muchbetter > >> >IMAO. > >> > >> > >> I went through just about all the 3dfx and nvidia chipsets. 3dfx had ahead start, > >> then nvidia opened a can of whup-ass on 3dfx and killed them - withbetter product. > >> No other vendor has maintained a position at the top of theperformance curve. The > >> nvidia viper era hardware was crap, TNT was adequate, GeForce and up isexcellent. > >> 3dfx were in slow motion and got left behind. The drivers have alwaysbeen the > >> weakest link for nvidia (and the slow development of directx). The21.81 drivers with > >> Windows XP are working very well on my PC - both directx and OpenGLwork great in > >> GPL. > >> > >> > >> Keith. >

I tried to use this and in D3D had a frame drop to 22fps (steady as a rock so to speak.) Usually get 36's. I run in 800x with a TNT M64 on Win98 using an Athlon 900 & 128mb ram. OpenGL ran okay, but the menus got all screwy (the drop down prob.) If I try to go up any futher (say 1024x everthing bogs down and menus get REALLY screwy.) So I had to delete the detonators and reinstall. Back to normal. Is this just a prob for my benefit or others had the same thing? Book. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:r4Gs7.45289$[email hidden]... > There were two versions of an unsupported beta patch that used to be at > Papy.com for opengl. However, I have generally got the feeling that mostof > the non-3dfx folks have found the performance and visual quality of thed3d

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> patch to be better than the opengl. As always, everybody perceives things > a-little differently. > dave henrie > "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Need 'how to' on setup of GPL with OpenGL running GeForce Ultra! > > > > > > On 26 Sep 2001 18:15:21 -0700, [email hidden] (Alan Nash) > > wrote: > > > > >Keith-- > > > > > >I'm running a Geforce2 GTS 64 meg--when I run opengl in GPL at 1280 > > >resolution, the screen is black when I exit the racing screen. Have > > >you encountered that, and if so, how did you fix it? I would like to > > >run OpenGL for the better visual quality over the D3D patch. > > > > > >Thanks in advance. > > > > > >Alan > > > > > > > > >keith <keith> wrote in message > news:<[email hidden]>... > > >> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:51:32 -0400, "REDLINE426"

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> excellent. > > >> 3dfx were in slow motion and got left behind. The drivers have always > been the > > >> weakest link for nvidia (and the slow development of directx). The > 21.81 drivers with > > >> Windows XP are working very well on my PC - both directx and OpenGL > work great in > > >> GPL. > > >> > > >> > > >> Keith. > > > >

Alan, I do not have the problem you mention, running Windows XP with the 21.81 drivers (Athlon 1.4G, GeForce2 GTS 32M, 1G SDRAM, iwill kk266-r, blablabla). Both d3d and OpenGL work fine with GPL, and I also find the OpenGL to be better quality. The d3d has anti aliasing turned on, which makes the menu text fuzzy. Keith. -------------------- On 26 Sep 2001 18:15:21 -0700, [email hidden] (Alan Nash) wrote:

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>Keith-- > >I'm running a Geforce2 GTS 64 meg--when I run opengl in GPL at 1280 >resolution, the screen is black when I exit the racing screen. Have >you encountered that, and if so, how did you fix it? I would like to >run OpenGL for the better visual quality over the D3D patch. > >Thanks in advance. > >Alan > > >keith <keith> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... >> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:51:32 -0400, "REDLINE426" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >Supposedly DX 8.0 has 320 bugs in it. I have used 8.1 till it expired, then >> >went back to 8.0, (shrugs shoulders) didn't notice any difference. >> > >> >Couldn't get the download from the site above, (either to busy or MS shut it >> >down). >> > >> >>"I STRONLGY recommend the 21.81 nVidia drivers...." Why? >> > >> >Personally I think NVIDIA (GeFarce) is crap, Voodoo or OpenGL is much better >> >IMAO. >> >> >> I went through just about all the 3dfx and nvidia chipsets. 3dfx had a head start, >> then nvidia opened a can of whup-ass on 3dfx and killed them - with better product. >> No other vendor has maintained a position at the top of the performance curve. The >> nvidia viper era hardware was crap, TNT was adequate, GeForce and up is excellent. >> 3dfx were in slow motion and got left behind. The drivers have always been the >> weakest link for nvidia (and the slow development of directx). The 21.81 drivers with >> Windows XP are working very well on my PC - both directx and OpenGL work great in >> GPL. >> >> >> Keith.