Downloaded it twice, very strange.. Starts, goes to Main screen,
boom.. reboot.
> Downloaded it twice, very strange.. Starts, goes to Main screen,
> boom.. reboot.
>
> Update StarForce Drivers:
http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=91
Downloaded it twice?
"Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
>> Downloaded it twice, very strange.. Starts, goes to Main screen,
>> boom.. reboot.
> Update StarForce Drivers:
>
> http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=91
Sorry for the confusion, it's the DEMO..
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>On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:21:52 -0700, "Chad Rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Downloaded it twice? > >"Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:dijflr$1vm$[email hidden]... >> >>> Downloaded it twice, very strange.. Starts, goes to Main screen, >>> boom.. reboot. >> Update StarForce Drivers: >> >> http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=91 >On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:21:52 -0700, "Chad Rogers"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
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>Downloaded it twice? > >"Driver" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:dijflr$1vm$[email hidden]... >> >>> Downloaded it twice, very strange.. Starts, goes to Main screen, >>> boom.. reboot. >> Update StarForce Drivers: >> >> http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=91 >2005-10-12, Driver wrote:
It seems a bit backwards that we have to update their copyprotection to
get the game running...
-peter (didn't buy GTL because of starforce, but doubts anyone cares)
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> >> Downloaded it twice, very strange.. Starts, goes to Main screen, >> boom.. reboot. >> >> > Update StarForce Drivers: > > http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=91Quoted text (17 lines)
> 2005-10-12, Driver wrote: > >>>Downloaded it twice, very strange.. Starts, goes to Main screen, >>>boom.. reboot. >>> >>> >> >>Update StarForce Drivers: >> >>http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=91 > > > It seems a bit backwards that we have to update their copyprotection to > get the game running... > > -peter (didn't buy GTL because of starforce, but doubts anyone cares) >yeah and if that doesnt do it, it is your antivirus software, I have to
create an "exception" for the EXE in the installed folder, then all was
well... that is AFTER I went and forced SForce update, by downloading from
a site, mentioned at Race Sim Central's GLT forum.
Driver enlightened us with:
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>> 2005-10-12, Driver wrote: >> >>>> Downloaded it twice, very strange.. Starts, goes to Main screen, >>>> boom.. reboot. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Update StarForce Drivers: >>> >>> http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=91 >> >> >> It seems a bit backwards that we have to update their copyprotection >> to get the game running... >> >> -peter (didn't buy GTL because of starforce, but doubts anyone cares) >> > > Yes that`s true but i had the same problem and updateing the StarForce > Drivers did solve it..G. Patricks wrote:
> Downloaded it twice, very strange.. Starts, goes to Main screen,
> boom.. reboot.
Disabling Avast anti virus cured the problem for me.
Hope this helps
Tony
> Disabling Avast anti virus cured the problem for me.
>
> Hope this helps
> Tony
I had to uninstall ZoneAlarm here
Robin
"PlowBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Believe me, when you have any doubt about anything first check any running
anti-virus software. I still contend that such software does more harm than
good, exactly the opposite of what its purpose purports to be. (And yes,
that's a pun on "ports". :) )
But more importantly, if anyone in the States is not aware of this, gogamer
will have the import of GTL available tomorrow, 10/14/05. The game ships in
two days. I expect my copy by next Monday or Tuesday.
Alanb
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> yeah and if that doesnt do it, it is your antivirus software, I have to > create an "exception" for the EXE in the installed folder, then all was > well... that is AFTER I went and forced SForce update, by downloading > from a site, mentioned at Race Sim Central's GLT forum. > Driver enlightened us with: >>> 2005-10-12, Driver wrote: >>> >>>>> Downloaded it twice, very strange.. Starts, goes to Main screen, >>>>> boom.. reboot. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Update StarForce Drivers: >>>> >>>> http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=91 >>> >>> >>> It seems a bit backwards that we have to update their copyprotection >>> to get the game running... >>> >>> -peter (didn't buy GTL because of starforce, but doubts anyone cares) >>> >> >> Yes that`s true but i had the same problem and updateing the StarForce >> Drivers did solve it.. > >Alan,
It is worse than you think... I never used to have anything on MY PC,
except spyware checking stuff... But then again I would have bought/built 2
more PC's since the last one... SBC&Yahoo dsl package offers free
intivirus/popupblocker/spyware detector/parental controls (have a 11 year
old boy). So since he gets on here, I thought I better protect it.
That was my folly, I was not used to having it on there, I usually make them
use the older machines... and since it was new SW to me, (at work we use
Norton's Corp edition) was not anywhere near used to it...
Alan Bernardo enlightened us with:
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> "PlowBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:B3e3f.550$Kp4.367@lakeread08... >> yeah and if that doesnt do it, it is your antivirus software, I have >> to create an "exception" for the EXE in the installed folder, then >> all was well... that is AFTER I went and forced SForce update, by >> downloading from a site, mentioned at Race Sim Central's GLT forum. >> Driver enlightened us with: >>>> 2005-10-12, Driver wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Downloaded it twice, very strange.. Starts, goes to Main screen, >>>>>> boom.. reboot. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Update StarForce Drivers: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=91 >>>> >>>> >>>> It seems a bit backwards that we have to update their >>>> copyprotection to get the game running... >>>> >>>> -peter (didn't buy GTL because of starforce, but doubts anyone >>>> cares) >>> >>> Yes that`s true but i had the same problem and updateing the >>> StarForce Drivers did solve it.. >> >> > > Believe me, when you have any doubt about anything first check any > running anti-virus software. I still contend that such software does > more harm than good, exactly the opposite of what its purpose > purports to be. (And yes, that's a pun on "ports". :) ) > > But more importantly, if anyone in the States is not aware of this, > gogamer will have the import of GTL available tomorrow, 10/14/05. The game > ships in two days. I expect my copy by next Monday or > Tuesday. > Alanb
"PlowBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Alan,
>
> It is worse than you think...
I realize that virus are a pretty serious problem, but it is not as bad as
those who sell protection software lead you to believe. Like a lot of
things people sell, they hype the problem to make it seem like you'd be nuts
to go without the product they want to sell.
I've always felt that virus software in particular does more harm than good.
In all my years (since 1985) of computing, I've ran into one virus. That's
it. I'll take my chances, rather than having continuous problems and
intrusive virus software harrassing me daily.
If one does the smart thing, like not opening files that are unknown, then
the problem isn't that big of a deal. Granted, I don't have any sensitive
information, I don't own a business or company, that makes it imperative to
have virus protection. I'm just me with my own stuff, which I can live
without. :)
And yes, I do check for spyware on a weekly basis. But spyware software
doesn't run in the background and is not intrusive, like virus software.
Alanb
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You sure about that? I've sorted out spyware infested computers that
are running like syrup. AV software finds nothing. Spyware software
finds a ton of stuff. Once cleared out, computer runs sweet.
--
Pete Ives
Remove All_stRESS before sending me an email
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> > "PlowBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:0aO3f.7$282.1@dukeread08... > > Alan, > > > > It is worse than you think... > > > And yes, I do check for spyware on a weekly basis. But spyware software > doesn't run in the background and is not intrusive, like virus software. >My nieces got hit with a sasser like virus that infected Internet Explorer,
caused the maching to keep shutting down after 60 seconds, (you have to
repeatedly enter a dos command "shutdown -a" to stop this), prevented
msconfig or task manager from running, and anti-virus software couldn't
find anything to fix.
Apparently you need to keep doing updates from Microsoft, the malicious
software removal tool seems to be the key update to prevent the type of
virus my nieces got, but it couldn't fix it. I had to back up their
data, and re-install Windows to get rid of this problem. There are
some types of viruses you can get by just viewing a web page if you
don't keep up with the updates with Microsoft (exploting weaknesses
in some versions of Internet Explorer).
Personally, I don't use anti-virus software, I just practice safe data.
For email, I have "read messages in plain text" set, and reply in same
format turned off, to prevent HTML stuff from launching while viewing
emails (especially when others in my family are reading their emails).
Alan,
you and I have lots in comon, I mean time online (since around '89)... Games
we like (racing), and experience with virus's I think I got a virus from a
"LAB" PC at the college once, it wiped the floppy... lost homework all
that... that is it. I have had some really nasty experiences with Spyware
though... Since I do fix many other peoples machines as a hobby & spare $
job. Like you I find if I dont go looking for trouble. But I know that the
kids dont get it. teen's machine, I have rebuilt it 3 times in 3years.
finally about gave up. needs rebuilt again (rebuilt in my terms is save
pics they have, some mp3s, format and reinstall... HP machine, LOL.
Alan Bernardo enlightened us with:
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> "PlowBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:0aO3f.7$282.1@dukeread08... >> Alan, >> >> It is worse than you think... > > I realize that virus are a pretty serious problem, but it is not as > bad as those who sell protection software lead you to believe. Like > a lot of things people sell, they hype the problem to make it seem > like you'd be nuts to go without the product they want to sell. > > I've always felt that virus software in particular does more harm > than good. In all my years (since 1985) of computing, I've ran into > one virus. That's it. I'll take my chances, rather than having > continuous problems and intrusive virus software harrassing me daily. > > If one does the smart thing, like not opening files that are unknown, > then the problem isn't that big of a deal. Granted, I don't have any > sensitive information, I don't own a business or company, that makes > it imperative to have virus protection. I'm just me with my own > stuff, which I can live without. :) > > And yes, I do check for spyware on a weekly basis. But spyware > software doesn't run in the background and is not intrusive, like > virus software. > AlanbPeter wrote:
He's talking about the anti-spyware stuff he runs and not the spyware
itself, i think.
I agree with him on the over-reaction to viruses to. I remember setting
a mate up to go on-line and play C&C Red Alert a few years ago, only for
his father-in-law to install a load of anti-virus rubbish for fear of
him catching something nasty of the Westwoold servers! I could not get
him to comprehend the true nature of the risk no matter how much reason
I put forward. He just could not/would not believe that you can go
on-line without anti-virus software running and be safe. And the guy was
a senior project manager at the MOD too!
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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > >>"PlowBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:0aO3f.7$282.1@dukeread08... >> >>>Alan, >>> >>>It is worse than you think... >> >> >>And yes, I do check for spyware on a weekly basis. But spyware software >>doesn't run in the background and is not intrusive, like virus software. >> > > You sure about that? I've sorted out spyware infested computers that > are running like syrup. AV software finds nothing. Spyware software > finds a ton of stuff. Once cleared out, computer runs sweet. >
"Peter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Spyware will slow a computer down considerably. But viruses tend to shut
computers down and make them inoperable.
Like I said, my experience with virus programs is that they do more harm
than good. With 20 years of computer use, I've gotten one virus that
completely totaled my system. As such, I'll take my chances.
Alanb
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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... >> >> "PlowBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:0aO3f.7$282.1@dukeread08... >> > Alan, >> > >> > It is worse than you think... >> >> >> And yes, I do check for spyware on a weekly basis. But spyware software >> doesn't run in the background and is not intrusive, like virus software. >> > You sure about that? I've sorted out spyware infested computers that > are running like syrup. AV software finds nothing. Spyware software > finds a ton of stuff. Once cleared out, computer runs sweet. > > --
"PlowBoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quite true about the spyware: it will bring a machine to a crawl. I've
helped others clean out their machines, many, many a time. Teenagers are
particularly susceptible to spyware. For all their believed sophistication,
many allow spyware to completely take over their machines, without
themselves really understanding what is happening.
I think if you are careful never to open foreign email attachments and try
and update Windows regularly, viruses will stay away. As for spyware,
however, it's hard to avoid that stuff completely. So a nice clean every
week or so should do the trick.
Norton's and Symantec want people to believe otherwise, so that they can
sell their software and make a bundle of cash. I'm not buying their pitch,
however.
Alanb
