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Rather Be At The Glen?

12 posts by 9 people · 29 Sep 2001 16:42 UTC - 02 Oct 2001 17:47 UTC

Steve Smith 29 Sep 2001 16:42 UTC#160621
Don't know abt. you guys, but after watching hours of soporific practice at the featureless Indy, I think I'd rather run GPL F1 at the Glen...particularly with those goregeous (and now appropriate) fall colors!
Infield road courses will never match the splendor of a full on natural terrain circuit. However, the addition of the Boot to Watkins Glen for GPL would greatly improve the character of that track as well.(hint hint track makers) dave henrie "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nSmt7.573143$[email hidden]... > Don't know abt. you guys, but after watching hours of soporific practiceat > the featureless Indy, I think I'd rather run GPL F1 at the > Glen...particularly with those goregeous (and now appropriate) fallcolors! > >
I don't know Steve... looks like it makes the drivers work for their money. That can't be a bad thing. Wouldn't go as far as call it scenic though. ;-) Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "Stephen Smith" wrote... > Don't know abt. you guys, but after watching hours of soporific > practice at the featureless Indy, I think I'd rather run GPL F1 > at the Glen...particularly with those goregeous (and now appropriate) > fall colors!
Althought I did not waste my time watching yet another boring F1 session... I must agree that The Glen would have been such nicer place to race.. Especially in the fall - my fav. time of the year. -- ed_ Stephen Smith <> skrev i news:nSmt7.573143$[email hidden]... > Don't know abt. you guys, but after watching hours of soporific practice at > the featureless Indy, I think I'd rather run GPL F1 at the > Glen...particularly with those goregeous (and now appropriate) fall colors! > >
To play Devil's advocate, I like most of the Indy circuit. Parts of the infield don't seem to flow (to me), but I really like the banking turn leading to the straight and I do like the first and last part of the infield - there's a section in the middle that seems to break up the rythm though. The oval banking section and the long straight are a nice feature that seems to remind me of Monza for some reason. Speedvision also shows a retrospective of the U.S. GP, and aside from financial issues, and a bad atmosphere of "hooliganism" for the infield fans, the Glen is run during a rainy, damp, chilly time of year for the NE. As they say it, when the weather was good, there were few tracks that could match the splendor of the scenery at the Glen, but then they cut to scenes from yesteryear's races run in the rain. Not so good for the fans or the drivers. Like Sam Posey and Bob Varsha, I do wonder if Road America would be a better addition to the series though. -- Philip D'Amato [email hidden] "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nSmt7.573143$[email hidden]... > Don't know abt. you guys, but after watching hours of soporific practice at > the featureless Indy, I think I'd rather run GPL F1 at the > Glen...particularly with those goregeous (and now appropriate) fall colors! > >
Phil, Indy is a 'technical' track, actually quite demanding...and more suited to Coulthard's usual cool style than Alesi's pyrotechnics, altho the reverse was obviously true today. There's a definite rhythm to the infield, particularly the first few turns, but those last coupla hairpins look tighter than Monaco's Station. The Big Q is, of course...why? Why did they feel constrained to make them so tight? There was talk last year of easing the radii, but obviously they di'n't. Too bad EA didn't make their release deadline (Sept. 25) for this year's US GP; "F1 2001" might have cashed in on the interest spike. Oh well, maybe next year (or the year after, given sims' usual product cycle). The weather at the Glen this year would have been perfect; a coupla deg. warmer than Indy; an achingly bright, cloudless fall day (I live abt. an hour away). Of course, the Glen was traditionally a week or so later...and more often than not, either boiling hot or--more ususally--freezing cold. I kinda liked The Bog. Great place for Rolling Stone-type interviews (gems from the spectators, not the performers). As much as I love Elkhart, it's obvious that it's way too dangerous for Bernie to give it his blessing as a F1 track. About $30 million short of a full FIA sanction...and one Interstate exit short of a profitable crowd. --Steve "Philip D'Amato" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:r6ot7.934$[email hidden]... To play Devil's advocate, I like most of the Indy circuit. Parts of the infield don't seem to flow (to me), but I really like the banking turn leading to the straight and I do like the first and last part of the infield - there's a section in the middle that seems to break up the rythm though. The oval banking section and the long straight are a nice feature that seems to remind me of Monza for some reason. Speedvision also shows a retrospective of the U.S. GP, and aside from financial issues, and a bad atmosphere of "hooliganism" for the infield fans, the Glen is run during a rainy, damp, chilly time of year for the NE. As they say it, when the weather was good, there were few tracks that could match the splendor of the scenery at the Glen, but then they cut to scenes from yesteryear's races run in the rain. Not so good for the fans or the drivers. Like Sam Posey and Bob Varsha, I do wonder if Road America would be a better addition to the series though. -- Philip D'Amato [email hidden] "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nSmt7.573143$[email hidden]... > Don't know abt. you guys, but after watching hours of soporific practice at > the featureless Indy, I think I'd rather run GPL F1 at the > Glen...particularly with those goregeous (and now appropriate) fall colors! > >
Well, there's always Road Atlanta! May not be F1, but I'm really looking forward to Petit LeMans next weekend. Hope this gorgeous weather hold up for another week... Steve B. "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote... <snip> > As much as I love Elkhart, it's obvious that it's way too dangerous for > Bernie to give it his blessing as a F1 track. About $30 million short of a > full FIA sanction...and one Interstate exit short of a profitable crowd. > > --Steve
*Now* I am envious. -- ed_ Steve Blankenship said: > Well, there's always Road Atlanta! May not be F1, but I'm really looking > forward to Petit LeMans next weekend. Hope this gorgeous weather hold > up for another week... >
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:t_mt7.53688$[email hidden]... > Infield road courses will never match the splendor of a full on natural > terrain circuit. However, the addition of the Boot to Watkins Glen forGPL > would greatly improve the character of that track as well.(hint hint track > makers) > dave henrie !!I second that motion!! last I knew someone was working on just that. Unfortunatly I also heard that he stoped, Though I don't know how true that is. With or with out the innerloop doesn't bother me, I just want the addition of the boot :-) Be also nice to have it for N4! All though I think the N4 cars are a bit too heavy for any road course, I still think it would enhance the N4 road racing experiance :-) -- Michael A. Barlow Head of Marketing FILSCA (www.filsca.com) > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:nSmt7.573143$[email hidden]... > > Don't know abt. you guys, but after watching hours of soporific practice > at > > the featureless Indy, I think I'd rather run GPL F1 at the > > Glen...particularly with those goregeous (and now appropriate) fall > colors! > > > > > >
Jan at the Uspits has a one lap video of the N4 stocker running around Monaco. If he can negotiate that bugger of a track, WG & the boot shouldn't be a problem. :) Just don't know when he and Noonan will complete their work. dave henrie "Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:t%Et7.577413$[email hidden]... > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:t_mt7.53688$[email hidden]... > > Infield road courses will never match the splendor of a full onnatural > > terrain circuit. However, the addition of the Boot to Watkins Glen for > GPL > > would greatly improve the character of that track as well.(hint hinttrack > > makers) > > dave henrie > > !!I second that motion!! last I knew someone was working on justthat. > Unfortunatly I also heard that he stoped, Though I don't know how truethat > is. With or with out the innerloop doesn't bother me, I just want the > addition of the boot :-) Be also nice to have it for N4! All though I > think the N4 cars are a bit too heavy for any road course, I still thinkit
Quoted text (12 lines)> would enhance the N4 road racing experiance :-) > > -- > Michael A. Barlow > Head of Marketing > FILSCA (www.filsca.com) > > > > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:nSmt7.573143$[email hidden]... > > > Don't know abt. you guys, but after watching hours of soporific
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Quoted text (10 lines)> > at > > > the featureless Indy, I think I'd rather run GPL F1 at the > > > Glen...particularly with those goregeous (and now appropriate) fall > > colors! > > > > > > > > > > > >
There might be a Bathurst track for N4 coming up........brakes would be nice "Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:t%Et7.577413$[email hidden]... > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:t_mt7.53688$[email hidden]... > > Infield road courses will never match the splendor of a full onnatural > > terrain circuit. However, the addition of the Boot to Watkins Glen for > GPL > > would greatly improve the character of that track as well.(hint hinttrack > > makers) > > dave henrie > > !!I second that motion!! last I knew someone was working on justthat. > Unfortunatly I also heard that he stoped, Though I don't know how truethat > is. With or with out the innerloop doesn't bother me, I just want the > addition of the boot :-) Be also nice to have it for N4! All though I > think the N4 cars are a bit too heavy for any road course, I still thinkit
Quoted text (12 lines)> would enhance the N4 road racing experiance :-) > > -- > Michael A. Barlow > Head of Marketing > FILSCA (www.filsca.com) > > > > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:nSmt7.573143$[email hidden]... > > > Don't know abt. you guys, but after watching hours of soporific
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Quoted text (10 lines)> > at > > > the featureless Indy, I think I'd rather run GPL F1 at the > > > Glen...particularly with those goregeous (and now appropriate) fall > > colors! > > > > > > > > > > > >
"Michael Barlow" wrote ... > > With or with out the innerloop doesn't bother me, I just want the > addition of the boot :-) Be also nice to have it for N4! All though I > think the N4 cars are a bit too heavy for any road course, I still think it > would enhance the N4 road racing experiance :-) I'm generally in favor of adding anything having to do with the Glen, it being my "home" course and all. I have a hard time picturing the boot "enhancing" the N4 experience, you'd kill your brakes and maybe hit 2nd twice, kind of boring I would think. Definitely would be a cool addition to GPL though.

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