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New track needed for GPL

9 posts by 7 people · 02 Oct 2001 14:10 UTC - 05 Oct 2001 01:48 UTC

Michael Barlow 02 Oct 2001 14:10 UTC#160282
We have the PantsRing, UndiesRing, and I think one other similar "skid pad" style track. But what we don't have is a track to test strait line properties... Fuel mileage, Terminal speeds, Quarter mile speeds, Braking distances, et... RemcoRing is the closest we have to what's needed but I'm thinking we (We, I, et..) need something slightly different. Something with two very long flat and level straits, with two wide radius turns (wide enough not to lose speed while going around them). and markers all along the track indicating distance from the start/finish line. This is more or less just for curiosity sake.. I'd like to know specific numbers for each marquee and each class, and each exaggeration of.. Last season I tried to get some numbers by using the Taladega converted track, but unfortunately I only got generalized numbers. I couldn't get to top speed because the turns would be there before I reached it and the climb entering the banked turns slowed me down by a little, even for the F3's. I did find out that tire pressures, drafting and being drafted, made a difference in fuel mileage but I never got specific numbers. Be nice to be able to get specific numbers with a track as suggested above. anyone interested in creating such a track? ;-) -- Michael A. Barlow currently Acting as "Head of Marketing" FILSCA (www.filsca.com)
"Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:NVju7.589030$[email hidden]... > We have the PantsRing, UndiesRing, and I think one other similar "skid > pad" style track. But what we don't have is a track to test strait line > properties... did you try the "Grenzlandring" ? -- Joachim
In article <9pcj60$hojl2$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > We have the PantsRing, UndiesRing, and I think one other similar "skid > > pad" style track. But what we don't have is a track to test strait line > > properties... > > did you try the "Grenzlandring" ? Or Avus... - Michael
"MP" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[email hidden]... > In article <9pcj60$hojl2$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > > > We have the PantsRing, UndiesRing, and I think one other similar"skid > > > pad" style track. But what we don't have is a track to test straitline > > > properties... > > > > did you try the "Grenzlandring" ? > > Or Avus... Or Smogbank... Regards Crash
I thought about Avus, But if I remember right, there is a couple three very sharp turns(?). Can't get accurate mileage with 15 gallons and at 2 gallons, and again being drafted and drafting. Also, the need for distance markers, such as maybe a sign at every 1/10th mile and a different sign at every 1 mile.. you get the picture. Just something for curiosity testing of each marquee and class. The current crop of tracks can't provide the data needed. Come to think of it, be nice to have the same test track for WSC when that comes out ;-) -- Michael A. Barlow currently Acting as "Head of Marketing" FILSCA (www.filsca.com) "MP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <9pcj60$hojl2$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > > > We have the PantsRing, UndiesRing, and I think one other similar "skid > > > pad" style track. But what we don't have is a track to test strait line > > > properties... > > > > did you try the "Grenzlandring" ? > > Or Avus... > > - Michael
In article <dRlu7.591857$[email hidden]>, "Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (10 lines)> I thought about Avus, But if I remember right, there is a couple three >very sharp turns(?). Can't get accurate mileage with 15 gallons and at 2 >gallons, and again being drafted and drafting. Also, the need for distance >markers, such as maybe a sign at every 1/10th mile and a different sign at >every 1 mile.. you get the picture. Just something for curiosity testing >of each marquee and class. The current crop of tracks can't provide the >data needed. > > Come to think of it, be nice to have the same test track for WSC when >that comes out ;-)
Hmm... a really big version of Undiesring shouldnt be a problem.. Diameter should be large enough to allow Brabham/Hondas drafting around with a huge margin to tire squeal, I guess? (maybe this means, we need some banking to shorten the laptimes) Maybe I'll give it a shot.. (dont expect any graphic enhancements or AI) Now I'm really curious about the size you need for that one :) Calis
>"Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote >anyone interested in creating such a track? ;-) One word : Smogbank. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
In article <NVju7.589030$[email hidden]>, "Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (13 lines)> We have the PantsRing, UndiesRing, and I think one other similar "skid >pad" style track. But what we don't have is a track to test strait line >properties... > > Fuel mileage, Terminal speeds, Quarter mile speeds, Braking distances, >et... > > RemcoRing is the closest we have to what's needed but I'm thinking we >(We, I, et..) need something slightly different. Something with two very >long flat and level straits, with two wide radius turns (wide enough not to >lose speed while going around them). and markers all along the track >indicating distance from the start/finish line. This is more or less just >for curiosity sake..
Ok, I did a quick test. I made an oval, straight is 500m, and every 180 deg. turns consists of 6 500m segments (diameter 1910m). Even in these turns, my Lotus looses more than 15 km/h compared to its topspeed (303 km/h in the turns without setup tuning)... Even little steering input costs speed. Conclusion: banked turns are needed.. Calis
Banked turns also cost speed - at least from the physical point of view. JensSchumi On 3 Oct 2001 12:24:16 GMT, [email hidden] (Herbert Pohlai) wrote:
Quoted text (11 lines)> >Ok, I did a quick test. >I made an oval, straight is 500m, and every 180 deg. turns >consists of 6 500m segments (diameter 1910m). >Even in these turns, my Lotus looses more than 15 km/h >compared to its topspeed (303 km/h in the turns without >setup tuning)... >Even little steering input costs speed. >Conclusion: banked turns are needed.. > > Calis
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