Formula Force GP owners - registry information needed

I need some information from anyone who has a Formula Force GP wheel and is comfortable using regedit to browse their registry. I have a Logitech Driving Force (force feedback) wheel for the PS2 (for use with GT3). It also works with a PC - but without force feedback. Windows (98SE) detected it as a USB Human Interface Device and it appears as a "Logitech Driving Force" in the Control Panel->Game Controllers. However, the latest Logitech Wingman Profiler (4.00.151) does not recognize that it is plugged in. I've read that it's possible to edit the registry to get the profiler to recognize it as a Formula Force GP wheel for the PC. It involves renaming the registry keys below. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ MediaProperties \ PrivateProperties \ Joystick \ OEM >>> VID_046D&PID_C293 >>> VID_046D&PID_C294 VID_046D&PID_C294 is renamed to VID_046D&PID_C294a VID_046D&PID_C293 is renamed to VID_046D&PID_C294 However, in the path above, I do not have an key entry for: VID_046D&PID_C293 If someone who has a Formula Force GP wheel can tell me what the string/binary values are for this key (name and data pairs), it would be much appreciated. Thanks, Brian

Here's the reg key for mine: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\control\MediaProperties\Pri vateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_046D&PID_C293] "OEMName"="Logitech WingMan Formula Force GP USB" "ConfigCLSID"="{60150957-C4AE-11d1-B59B-00A0C9971EFC}" "OEMData"=hex:41,00,08,10,06,00,00,00 "Flags1"=hex:04,00,00,00 "OEMCallout"="joyhid.vxd" There are also a lot of subentries for axes and forces. I think the Profiler will set that up once it recognizes it, but just in case it doesn't, I have attached a reg file with the entire subtree for that controller. hth, Haqsau "BrianMW" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sQsu7.183169$[email hidden]... > I need some information from anyone who has a Formula Force GP wheeland is > comfortable using regedit to browse their registry. > > I have a Logitech Driving Force (force feedback) wheel for the PS2(for use > with GT3). It also works with a PC - but without force feedback. > > Windows (98SE) detected it as a USB Human Interface Device and itappears as > a "Logitech Driving Force" in the Control Panel->Game Controllers. > > However, the latest Logitech Wingman Profiler (4.00.151) does notrecognize > that it is plugged in. I've read that it's possible to edit theregistry to > get the profiler to recognize it as a Formula Force GP wheel for thePC.

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> > It involves renaming the registry keys below. > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ > MediaProperties \ PrivateProperties \ Joystick \ OEM > >>> VID_046D&PID_C293 > >>> VID_046D&PID_C294 > > VID_046D&PID_C294 is renamed to VID_046D&PID_C294a > VID_046D&PID_C293 is renamed to VID_046D&PID_C294 > > However, in the path above, I do not have an key entry for: > VID_046D&PID_C293 > > If someone who has a Formula Force GP wheel can tell me what the > string/binary values are for this key (name and data pairs), it would

be > much appreciated. > > Thanks, Brian > >

Hi, I think that downloading the Wingman software from www.wingmanteam.com should do the trick of properly configuring your wheel without any registry tweaks. -Gregor BrianMW wrote: > > I need some information from anyone who has a Formula Force GP wheel and is > comfortable using regedit to browse their registry. >

Thanks all for the info. I'll try these and post the results. Brian "Gregor Veble" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hi, > > I think that downloading the Wingman software from www.wingmanteam.com > should do the trick of properly configuring your wheel without any > registry tweaks. > > -Gregor > > BrianMW wrote: > > > > I need some information from anyone who has a Formula Force GP wheel and

is > > comfortable using regedit to browse their registry. > >

Thank you very much - it worked, I used the attached registry update file to add the entry: VID_046D&PID_C293 Following the instructions above, I renamed the keys: VID_046D&PID_C294 is renamed to VID_046D&PID_C294a VID_046D&PID_C293 is renamed to VID_046D&PID_C294 The Control Panel->Game Gaming Option recognzed it as a Wingman Formula Force GP. However, the Wingman Profiler (4.00.151) still does not recognize the wheel. As a result, the gas/brake pedals are always combined on the y-axis of joystick 1. Force feedback works on all the PC games/sims that I have installed. Only one minor issue - of all the buttons on the Driving Force wheel (there are 10, plus the PS2 D-PAD), 6 of these map differently to the 6 buttons on the Formula Force GP. The button mappings are: ID Formula Force GP Driving Force ============================= 1 Left Paddle = X button 2 Right Paddle = Sqaure button 3 Right spoke top = Triangle button 4 Left spoke top = Circle button 5 Left spoke bottom = Right spoke top 6 Right spoke bottom = Left spoke top 7 N/A = Left spoke bottom 8 N/A = Right spoke bottom BTW, there is a new version of the profiler at www.wingmanteam.com , but I didn't try this. The wheel works with GPL. F1RC, NFSPU, TOCA2, CMR2, RC2000, GP3, F1 2000 CS, Viper, Nascar Heat, N3, CPR, CART, Super 1 Karting, DTR, DTRSC, SODA, Midtown Madness 2, Monster Truck Madness 2, ... Brian "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Pvuu7.7338$[email hidden]...

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> Here's the reg key for mine: > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\control\MediaProperties\Pri > vateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_046D&PID_C293] > "OEMName"="Logitech WingMan Formula Force GP USB" > "ConfigCLSID"="{60150957-C4AE-11d1-B59B-00A0C9971EFC}" > "OEMData"=hex:41,00,08,10,06,00,00,00 > "Flags1"=hex:04,00,00,00 > "OEMCallout"="joyhid.vxd" > > There are also a lot of subentries for axes and forces. I think the > Profiler will set that up once it recognizes it, but just in case it > doesn't, I have attached a reg file with the entire subtree for that > controller. > > hth, > Haqsau > > > > "BrianMW" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:sQsu7.183169$[email hidden]... > > I need some information from anyone who has a Formula Force GP wheel > and is > > comfortable using regedit to browse their registry. > > > > I have a Logitech Driving Force (force feedback) wheel for the PS2 > (for use > > with GT3). It also works with a PC - but without force feedback. > > > > Windows (98SE) detected it as a USB Human Interface Device and it > appears as > > a "Logitech Driving Force" in the Control Panel->Game Controllers. > > > > However, the latest Logitech Wingman Profiler (4.00.151) does not > recognize > > that it is plugged in. I've read that it's possible to edit the > registry to > > get the profiler to recognize it as a Formula Force GP wheel for the > PC. > > > > It involves renaming the registry keys below. > > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ > > MediaProperties \ PrivateProperties \ Joystick \ OEM > > >>> VID_046D&PID_C293 > > >>> VID_046D&PID_C294 > > > > VID_046D&PID_C294 is renamed to VID_046D&PID_C294a > > VID_046D&PID_C293 is renamed to VID_046D&PID_C294 > > > > However, in the path above, I do not have an key entry for: > > VID_046D&PID_C293 > > > > If someone who has a Formula Force GP wheel can tell me what the > > string/binary values are for this key (name and data pairs), it would > be > > much appreciated. > > > > Thanks, Brian > > > > >

If I understand you correctly, the extra buttons do not work? Or they just do not map correctly? I think you could probably fix that in the registry. Notice the keys for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\control\MediaProperties\Priv ateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_046D&PID_C293\Buttons. There are 6 keys there, numbered 0 through 5. You could add keys 6 through 9. Add the "attribute" key from button 5, and increment the 7th byte of the "attribute" value by 1 for each button. Worth a try. "BrianMW" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FgFu7.186837$[email hidden]...

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> Thank you very much - it worked, > > I used the attached registry update file to add the entry: > VID_046D&PID_C293 > > Following the instructions above, I renamed the keys: > > VID_046D&PID_C294 is renamed to VID_046D&PID_C294a > VID_046D&PID_C293 is renamed to VID_046D&PID_C294 > > The Control Panel->Game Gaming Option recognzed it as a Wingman

Formula > Force GP. However, the Wingman Profiler (4.00.151) still does notrecognize > the wheel. As a result, the gas/brake pedals are always combined onthe > y-axis of joystick 1. > > Force feedback works on all the PC games/sims that I have installed.Only > one minor issue - of all the buttons on the Driving Force wheel (thereare > 10, plus the PS2 D-PAD), 6 of these map differently to the 6 buttonson the

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> Formula Force GP. The button mappings are: > > ID Formula Force GP Driving Force > ============================= > 1 Left Paddle = X button > 2 Right Paddle = Sqaure button > 3 Right spoke top = Triangle button > 4 Left spoke top = Circle button > 5 Left spoke bottom = Right spoke top > 6 Right spoke bottom = Left spoke top > 7 N/A = Left spoke bottom > 8 N/A = Right spoke bottom > > BTW, there is a new version of the profiler at www.wingmanteam.com ,

but I > didn't try this. > > The wheel works with GPL. F1RC, NFSPU, TOCA2, CMR2, RC2000, GP3, F12000 CS,

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> Viper, Nascar Heat, N3, CPR, CART, Super 1 Karting, DTR, DTRSC, SODA, > Midtown Madness 2, Monster Truck Madness 2, ... > > Brian > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Pvuu7.7338$[email hidden]... > > Here's the reg key for mine: > > > >

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\control\MediaProperties\Pri

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> > vateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_046D&PID_C293] > > "OEMName"="Logitech WingMan Formula Force GP USB" > > "ConfigCLSID"="{60150957-C4AE-11d1-B59B-00A0C9971EFC}" > > "OEMData"=hex:41,00,08,10,06,00,00,00 > > "Flags1"=hex:04,00,00,00 > > "OEMCallout"="joyhid.vxd" > > > > There are also a lot of subentries for axes and forces. I think the > > Profiler will set that up once it recognizes it, but just in case it > > doesn't, I have attached a reg file with the entire subtree for that > > controller. > > > > hth, > > Haqsau > > > > > > > > "BrianMW" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:sQsu7.183169$[email hidden]... > > > I need some information from anyone who has a Formula Force GP

wheel

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> > and is > > > comfortable using regedit to browse their registry. > > > > > > I have a Logitech Driving Force (force feedback) wheel for the PS2 > > (for use > > > with GT3). It also works with a PC - but without force feedback. > > > > > > Windows (98SE) detected it as a USB Human Interface Device and it > > appears as > > > a "Logitech Driving Force" in the Control Panel->Game Controllers. > > > > > > However, the latest Logitech Wingman Profiler (4.00.151) does not > > recognize > > > that it is plugged in. I've read that it's possible to edit the > > registry to > > > get the profiler to recognize it as a Formula Force GP wheel for

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> > PC. > > > > > > It involves renaming the registry keys below. > > > > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ > > > MediaProperties \ PrivateProperties \ Joystick \ OEM > > > >>> VID_046D&PID_C293 > > > >>> VID_046D&PID_C294 > > > > > > VID_046D&PID_C294 is renamed to VID_046D&PID_C294a > > > VID_046D&PID_C293 is renamed to VID_046D&PID_C294 > > > > > > However, in the path above, I do not have an key entry for: > > > VID_046D&PID_C293 > > > > > > If someone who has a Formula Force GP wheel can tell me what the > > > string/binary values are for this key (name and data pairs), it

would

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> > be > > > much appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, Brian > > > > > > > > > >

I'm following along all this, and created the VID ... 293 file and renamed stuff, but the device doesn't show up in the game controllers section. A couple of thoughts: There is no "text key" earlier in the list like there is for the serial devices. Is there another "naming key"? OR, my game devices input selection only has a standard port option (no USB in the drop down) and no USB devices show up in the selection screen. How do I add the USB devices? Thanks for any help. (I'm new at this registry stuff.) "BrianMW" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<zNBu7.185686$[email hidden]>...

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> Thanks all for the info. I'll try these and post the results. > Brian > > "Gregor Veble" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi, > > > > I think that downloading the Wingman software from www.wingmanteam.com > > should do the trick of properly configuring your wheel without any > > registry tweaks. > > > > -Gregor > > > > BrianMW wrote: > > > > > > I need some information from anyone who has a Formula Force GP wheel and > is > > > comfortable using regedit to browse their registry. > > >