1 mile = X meeters?

I'm doing some re-testing on the GPL classes.. I mentioned in another thread about a test track, The closest I can find that is what I want is the Daytona track. Unfortunately, about 2/3rds down the back strait the track starts to go uphill destroying any chance of getting a absolute fasted possible strait line speed. In F3, the brabham hits 143 at that point but then slows down to 142 near the turn, and of course down to 140 through the turn. Any case, I ran enough laps to get a basic idea of fuel mileage. The track is 4023 meters long I'm assuming being measured at the center of the track. How many miles is 4023 meters? also, exactly how long is one mile? (5,xxx feet?) like I said before, just some odd testing for some odd but interesting facts. -- Michael A. Barlow currently Acting as "Head of Marketing" FILSCA (www.filsca.com)

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for life Oh well, here's the link anyway :) http://www.french-property.com/cgi-bin/ifp/convert.pl

1 mile = 1.609344kms http://www.image-ination.com/test_maker/convert.html Steve

On Tue, 02 Oct 2001 23:28:06 GMT, "Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Any case, I ran enough laps to get a basic idea of fuel mileage. The >track is 4023 meters long I'm assuming being measured at the center of the A note about track lengths. There is different lengths stored in different places in GPL. One in the trk file - this is what I call "2d-length", not taking elevation changes into account . Measured along centerline of track. One in the ini file - Anything the creator choose to put in there. One in the graph of GPLRA - this is what I call "3d-length", taking into account all elevation changes. Measured along centerline of track. (in earlier versions of GPLRA the length stated was the 2d length) Daytona is rather flat so the difference between "2d" and "3d" length probably isn't very big. Cheers, /Martin

GMpartsguy <[email hidden]> wrote on 03 Oct 2001: > Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. > Teach a man to fish and he will eat for life<Snip> Actually... Give a man a fish and he will complain at the lack of salt & vinegar. Teach a man to fish and he will spend the day asleep in his boat :-) -- One-line reply + 300-line quote = unread post. The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

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> GMpartsguy <[email hidden]> wrote on 03 Oct 2001: > > > Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. > > Teach a man to fish and he will eat for life > <Snip> > > Actually... > > Give a man a fish and he will complain at the lack of salt & vinegar. > Teach a man to fish and he will spend the day asleep in his boat :-)

Anyway, who wants to only eat fish?

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> > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > GMpartsguy <[email hidden]> wrote on 03 Oct 2001: > > > > > Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. > > > Teach a man to fish and he will eat for life > > <Snip> > > > > Actually... > > > > Give a man a fish and he will complain at the lack of salt & vinegar. > > Teach a man to fish and he will spend the day asleep in his boat :-) > > Anyway, who wants to only eat fish?

Well, we could all do the "fish slapping dance" ....... Halibut (sp) anyone ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

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> > > Colin Harris wrote: > > > > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > GMpartsguy <[email hidden]> wrote on 03 Oct 2001: > > > > > > > Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. > > > > Teach a man to fish and he will eat for life > > > <Snip> > > > > > > Actually... > > > > > > Give a man a fish and he will complain at the lack of salt & vinegar. > > > Teach a man to fish and he will spend the day asleep in his boat :-) > > > > Anyway, who wants to only eat fish? > > Well, we could all do the "fish slapping dance" ....... > > Halibut (sp) anyone ?

Hmm, mention fish and you'll always get a response from a Norwegian :-)

I took the GPL editor application and opened the track.dat file. in there is the track length in meters so I can only *assume* it's right. All though I didn't take a look at each track section length and add them up. Any case, I did some tests at Daytona with the FG cars and found the top speed and fuel mileage for each marquee. Now to find out the 0 to 100 and 100 to 0 differences. (yes, I have too much time on my hands atm ;-) -- Michael A. Barlow currently Acting as "Head of Marketing" FILSCA (www.filsca.com) "Martin Granberg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 02 Oct 2001 23:28:06 GMT, "Michael Barlow" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > Any case, I ran enough laps to get a basic idea of fuel mileage. The > >track is 4023 meters long I'm assuming being measured at the center of the > > A note about track lengths. There is different lengths stored in > different places in GPL. > > One in the trk file - this is what I call "2d-length", not taking > elevation changes into account . Measured along centerline of track. > > One in the ini file - Anything the creator choose to put in there. > > One in the graph of GPLRA - this is what I call "3d-length", taking > into account all elevation changes. Measured along centerline of > track. (in earlier versions of GPLRA the length stated was the 2d > length) > > Daytona is rather flat so the difference between "2d" and "3d" length > probably isn't very big. > > Cheers, > > /Martin >

Colin Harris wrote: > > Hmm, mention fish and you'll always get a response from a Norwegian :-) ROFL, keep up the good work Colin......whatever it is you do :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 12:52:59 GMT, "Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I took the GPL editor application and opened the track.dat file. in >there is the track length in meters so I can only *assume* it's right. That is the "2d" length. If you have (unlikely, but it illustrates the problem) a track section which is 10 meters long but with an angle of 45 degrees (=10 meters high), and then another 10 m section with -45 degrees GPLEditor would say those 2 sections are 20 meters long combined. But the length the wheels would have to travel to cover those two sections is ofcourse longer than 20 meters. Cheers, /Martin

"GMpartsguy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Lbsu7.55709$[email hidden]... > Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. > Teach a man to fish and he will eat for life I prefer "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day." George --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 09/25/2001

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> > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > GMpartsguy <[email hidden]> wrote on 03 Oct 2001: > > > > > Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. > > > Teach a man to fish and he will eat for life > > <Snip> > > > > Actually... > > > > Give a man a fish and he will complain at the lack of salt & vinegar. > > Teach a man to fish and he will spend the day asleep in his boat :-) > > > Anyway, who wants to only eat fish? >

Dirty disgusting fish that absorb every unknown chemical dumped into the ocean? not me thankyou.

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 08:30:53 -0500, "George Jetson" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I prefer "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to >fish and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day." Yes, that one sounds more familiar to me... :) /Martin

A mile is 1608 meters. And why don't you use smogbank for testing. Two long straights, and to large radius, slightly banked corners, it should be ideal for your purpose. Don't have a link i'm afraid. Lars G. On Tue, 02 Oct 2001 23:28:06 GMT, "Michael Barlow" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> I'm doing some re-testing on the GPL classes.. I mentioned in another >thread about a test track, The closest I can find that is what I want is the >Daytona track. Unfortunately, about 2/3rds down the back strait the track >starts to go uphill destroying any chance of getting a absolute fasted >possible strait line speed. In F3, the brabham hits 143 at that point but >then slows down to 142 near the turn, and of course down to 140 through the >turn. > > Any case, I ran enough laps to get a basic idea of fuel mileage. The >track is 4023 meters long I'm assuming being measured at the center of the >track. How many miles is 4023 meters? also, exactly how long is one mile? >(5,xxx feet?) like I said before, just some odd testing for some odd but >interesting facts.

hmm.. I didn't realize that. I just automatically assumed it was a regular road course. Hopefully someone will post a link. I'll do some searching, but just in case I don't find it..... btw: you are close.. one mile = 1609.3000 meters. Thanks to those who pointed me to the US/metric conversion sites :-) 1 mile = 1609.300 metre 1 mile = 1760 yards 1 mile = 1.6093 km -- Michael A. Barlow currently Acting as "Head of Marketing" FILSCA (www.filsca.com) "nobody" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > A mile is 1608 meters. > > And why don't you use smogbank for testing. > > Two long straights, and to large radius, slightly banked corners, it > should be ideal for your purpose. > > Don't have a link i'm afraid. > > Lars G. >

Michael Barlow wrote: > 1 mile = 1609.300 metre This is wrong. A statute mile is 5280 ft (exact). The foot is 12 inches (exact) and the inch is defined as 2.54 centimeters (exact) I'm not sure I would trust a units conversion site that actually puts zeros into otherwise significant figures... - Matt

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> Michael Barlow wrote: > > > 1 mile = 1609.300 metre > > This is wrong. A statute mile is 5280 ft (exact). > The foot is 12 inches (exact) and the inch is > defined as 2.54 centimeters (exact) > > I'm not sure I would trust a units conversion site that > actually puts zeros into otherwise significant figures...

Matt is right -- 1 m 2.54 cm 12 in. 5280 ft. -- -- x ----- x ---- x ----- = 1609.344 meters/mile 100 cm 1 inch 1 foot 1 mile -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************

> > 1 mile = 1609.300 metre > > This is wrong. A statute mile is 5280 ft (exact). > The foot is 12 inches (exact) and the inch is > defined as 2.54 centimeters (exact) Intriguing ... you say he is wrong, and then prove his answer. 2.54 x 12 x 5280 = 1609.344 Andy -- PC-Based Multimedia System http://groups.yahoo.com/group/htpc NB: Spamtrap - my name @yahoo.co.uk

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> > > > 1 mile = 1609.300 metre > > > > This is wrong. A statute mile is 5280 ft (exact). > > The foot is 12 inches (exact) and the inch is > > defined as 2.54 centimeters (exact) > > Intriguing ... you say he is wrong, and then prove his answer. > > 2.54 x 12 x 5280 = 1609.344

Even more intriguing 1609.300 = 1609.344 ? :-) Nit picking, perhaps, but it's not the same is it ? :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

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> > >Andy Laurence wrote: >> >> > > 1 mile = 1609.300 metre >> > >> > This is wrong. A statute mile is 5280 ft (exact). >> > The foot is 12 inches (exact) and the inch is >> > defined as 2.54 centimeters (exact) >> >> Intriguing ... you say he is wrong, and then prove his answer. >> >> 2.54 x 12 x 5280 = 1609.344 > >Even more intriguing > >1609.300 = 1609.344 > >? :-)

now if that's true, is it ok to say: 1649.300 = 1609.304 ? SCNR :) BTW: Michael, if you really need different, special test tracks, look into the GPLEA track creating tutorial. Within an afternoon you should be able to do an oval with any desired properties. (I can do a driveable oval from scratch in 10 minutes, maybe 15 if you want banking :) The really big part of track creation is the addition of details (Trees, signs, spectators, houses, flagposts, the naked girl, etc..), the AI, setups, cover, .. none of this is needed for your performance tests, so you really can be set within minutes! Calis

Herbert Pohlai <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9pi36h$os7$[email hidden]... > now if that's true, is it ok to say: > > 1649.300 = 1609.304 ? SCNR :) x = 1609.300 => 1609.2995 < x < 1609.3005 So no, even ignoring the typo "4" ;-) Jonny