This is really great.. Peter vd Burg is working on a new camera
utilty, he expects to release it in November.
See what you can do with it in this movie:
http://www.pvdb.mbit.nl/files/gplforever_movie2_320x190.wmv
It's a biggie, 13.5mb, but well worth the download, it's truly
amazing!!
Read all about it on his homepage at http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~ppg/
Andre
Preview of Peter vd Burg's GPL camera utility
Andre Warringa linked a video showing Peter vd Burg's upcoming Camera Control Master utility for Grand Prix Legends, due in November, with dramatic flying camera views. Posters were amazed and praised the GPL add-on community, and others explained how similar camera effects were previously achieved in GPL movies.
mods/tracks/carsGrand Prix Legends
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Woa!!! This is truly amazing! GPL never looked this good!!!
I bet the Papy guys will really love seeing how good GPL looks with this
camera system. The camera action makes it all even more realistic.
Awesome job!
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> This is really great.. Peter vd Burg is working on a new camera > utilty, he expects to release it in November. > See what you can do with it in this movie: > http://www.pvdb.mbit.nl/files/gplforever_movie2_320x190.wmv > It's a biggie, 13.5mb, but well worth the download, it's truly > amazing!! > Read all about it on his homepage at http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~ppg/Ah jesus, that movie is absolutely fantastic! Must be an awesome util :)
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> This is really great.. Peter vd Burg is working on a new camera > utilty, he expects to release it in November. > See what you can do with it in this movie: > http://www.pvdb.mbit.nl/files/gplforever_movie2_320x190.wmv > It's a biggie, 13.5mb, but well worth the download, it's truly > amazing!! > Read all about it on his homepage at http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~ppg/ > > AndreTruly spectacular, Andre!
The true "talent" in the GPL sim community never ceases to amaze me!
Tom Pabst
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> This is really great.. Peter vd Burg is working on a new camera > utilty, he expects to release it in November. > See what you can do with it in this movie: > http://www.pvdb.mbit.nl/files/gplforever_movie2_320x190.wmv > It's a biggie, 13.5mb, but well worth the download, it's truly > amazing!! > Read all about it on his homepage at http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~ppg/ > > AndreWOW! That's truly amazing stuff. This game IS legendary.
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> This is really great.. Peter vd Burg is working on a new camera
> utilty, he expects to release it in November.
> See what you can do with it in this movie:
> http://www.pvdb.mbit.nl/files/gplforever_movie2_320x190.wmv
> It's a biggie, 13.5mb, but well worth the download, it's truly
> amazing!!
> Read all about it on his homepage at http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~ppg/
>
> Andre
Absolutely Fantastic Peter vd Burg..
Cheers -Thom_j.
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> WOW! That's truly amazing stuff. This game IS legendary.
> --
> Joe Marques
> I just want to state for the record and quell any rumours before they get
started.. I was NOT...repeat NOT the stunt driver for that movie.
dave henrie
waow ... ho - ma - god - this stuff is super greeen !
Andre Warringa wrote:
> This is really great.. Peter vd Burg is working on a new camera
> Read all about it on his homepage at http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~ppg/
>
> Andre
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Dynamics and Car Physics
http://www.eden-studios.fr
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| "Joe Marques
| > WOW! That's truly amazing stuff. This game IS legendary.
| > --
| > Joe Marques
| >
| I just want to state for the record and quell any rumours before theyget
| started.. I was NOT...repeat NOT the stunt driver for that movie.
| dave henrie
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|
Well not INTENTIONALLY ;) <G>
Ash :)
Very cool, can't wait til November now!
Rafe Mc
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 01:28:58 +0200, Andre Warringa
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>This is really great.. Peter vd Burg is working on a new camera >utilty, he expects to release it in November. >See what you can do with it in this movie: >http://www.pvdb.mbit.nl/files/gplforever_movie2_320x190.wmv >It's a biggie, 13.5mb, but well worth the download, it's truly >amazing!! >Read all about it on his homepage at http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~ppg/ > >AndreOn Thu, 11 Oct 2001 02:15:22 GMT, "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>Truly spectacular, Andre!
>
>The true "talent" in the GPL sim community never ceases to amaze me!
>
>Tom Pabst
Peter doesn't visit RAS (too busy working on his camera utility :)
I'll forward your nice comments to him to let him know he doesn't
spent all his time on this utility for nothing :)
Andre
I've seen these types of GPL camera's in a couple of the GPL Mpeg movies
but I haven't a clue how to do such a thing...
The default TV camera's are located in a fixed position and are focused
on a fixed part of the driver selected. You can zoom and tilt the cameras
as well as have them placed in another fixed position. However, that's all
the editing I've found you can do.
The movie you have here, the camera's are not fixed in one position
and are not focuses on any part of a driver. example, the Silverstone and
Spa TV camera's appear to be fixed on a helicopter and can change focus
points as if you were using a joy stick to manipulate the camera/helicopter.
How the hell is that done!?!
I have many replays where I'm focused on one car with some exciting
action, and a second later there's action with another car up ahead.
currently I have to switch driver focus and switch camera's to get the right
angles I want. and that takes a lot of time all the while the action of the
second car is going away. Your non specific focus points suggests I could
simply use a joystick and watch both cars by moving the fixed camera
positions smoothly as if I'm a camera man in real life.
Hope I'm explaining things right. another example is the roll bar views
in your application. I can switch from three different views but each one
is switched as if I'm switching camera's instead of smoothly moving one
camera on the fly. There has to be a way to do this obviously, so just how
is it done!!??!!
frustrated,
Michael A. Barlow
currently Acting as "Head of Marketing"
FILSCA (www.filsca.com)
BTW: The utility you have here does show a LOT of promise and I'll be
using it quite often :-)
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> This is really great.. Peter vd Burg is working on a new camera > utilty, he expects to release it in November. > See what you can do with it in this movie: > http://www.pvdb.mbit.nl/files/gplforever_movie2_320x190.wmv > It's a biggie, 13.5mb, but well worth the download, it's truly > amazing!! > Read all about it on his homepage at http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~ppg/ > > AndreVery nice! Even the wife loved it, think she was digging the music.
J. Janasov
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> waow ... ho - ma - god - this stuff is super greeen ! > > Andre Warringa wrote: > > > This is really great.. Peter vd Burg is working on a new camera > > Read all about it on his homepage at http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~ppg/ > > > > Andre > > -- > Sebastien TIXIER - Game Developer > Dynamics and Car Physics > http://www.eden-studios.fr > GPLRank Normal:-44.24 Monster:-124.44 > >Why not, Dave?
Heck, you wouldn't have even had to "perform stunts!" Isn't that your
normal driving style?
lol....
Tom
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> started.. I was NOT...repeat NOT the stunt driver for that movie.
> dave henrie
>
>
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> > "Joe Marques > > WOW! That's truly amazing stuff. This game IS legendary. > > -- > > Joe Marques > > > I just want to state for the record and quell any rumours before theyI'm pretty sure they'll never be a GPL2, but, given the beautiful carsets,
tracks, and utils like these written by totall GPL enthusiasts, who cares??
;-)
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> This is really great.. Peter vd Burg is working on a new camera > utilty, he expects to release it in November. > See what you can do with it in this movie: > http://www.pvdb.mbit.nl/files/gplforever_movie2_320x190.wmv > It's a biggie, 13.5mb, but well worth the download, it's truly > amazing!! > Read all about it on his homepage at http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~ppg/ > > AndreMichael Barlow wrote:
>
> I've seen these types of GPL camera's in a couple of the GPL Mpeg movies
> but I haven't a clue how to do such a thing...
'Flying' cameras in most other movies come from using one car as a
camera car. If you set a car cam with no view of the car it's on, it
looks like it's floating. Shown to good effect in Sam Dobie's movie.
What you can do then is drive it round to get the views you want, like
setting up an AI race, starting the the back and trundling down the side
of the grid with a cam that points at 90 degrees away from the side of
the car. That gives you a nice tracking grid view.
>
> The default TV camera's are located in a fixed position and are focused
> on a fixed part of the driver selected. You can zoom and tilt the cameras
> as well as have them placed in another fixed position. However, that's all
> the editing I've found you can do.
You can make normal TV cams move. I've done it on some of my track cams.
You can set several cameras in a line and have the change over points
at, say, 20m intervals so as the car gets closer the view switches to
the next camera. Easy enough to get a camera view crossing the track but
it's a little jerky and you're limited to 64 cams in a TV set.
Like this
http://www.molbiol.ox.ac.uk/~kclark/cam.jpg
>
> The movie you have here, the camera's are not fixed in one position
> and are not focuses on any part of a driver. example, the Silverstone and
> Spa TV camera's appear to be fixed on a helicopter and can change focus
> points as if you were using a joy stick to manipulate the camera/helicopter.
> How the hell is that done!?!
He's worked out that you can move the pitcam by using a script that
allows you to 'fly' it using the wheel and pedals. Cool eh? :)
I've suggested something similar to him for the normal track cams.
Apparently that's his next project. If he can work out how to preprogram
a track camera to move along, the replays will be amazing!
Kev
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> > I have many replays where I'm focused on one car with some exciting > action, and a second later there's action with another car up ahead. > currently I have to switch driver focus and switch camera's to get the right > angles I want. and that takes a lot of time all the while the action of the > second car is going away. Your non specific focus points suggests I could > simply use a joystick and watch both cars by moving the fixed camera > positions smoothly as if I'm a camera man in real life. > > Hope I'm explaining things right. another example is the roll bar views > in your application. I can switch from three different views but each one > is switched as if I'm switching camera's instead of smoothly moving one > camera on the fly. There has to be a way to do this obviously, so just how > is it done!!??!! > > frustrated, > Michael A. Barlow > currently Acting as "Head of Marketing" > FILSCA (www.filsca.com) > > BTW: The utility you have here does show a LOT of promise and I'll be > using it quite often :-) > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > This is really great.. Peter vd Burg is working on a new camera > > utilty, he expects to release it in November. > > See what you can do with it in this movie: > > http://www.pvdb.mbit.nl/files/gplforever_movie2_320x190.wmv > > It's a biggie, 13.5mb, but well worth the download, it's truly > > amazing!! > > Read all about it on his homepage at http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~ppg/ > > > > AndreOn Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:34:25 GMT, "Michael Barlow"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
Maybe this text from Peter's site will clear things up a bit:
Currently I am extending the Car Camera Manager with a lot of new
features, because it is not only car camera stuff anymore I will
rename it to Camera Control Master:
My plans for the upcoming versions are:
Next version:
- User control of car cameras by mouse and steering wheel. This will
be available on the "roll bar" camera (already did mouse and it looks
great)
- Camera effects by user script defining a movement. This will be
available on the "roll bar" camera. (already did it and it also looks
great)
- Synchronisation of user control and effects with GPL2AVI (already
did it)
- User control of the pit camera (already did it)
- Multiple file support (not done yet)
- Launch buttons for the most important utilities and of course GPL
itself (not done yet)
Later version or next version:
- Saving camera positions, to use the manager also as editor
- Saving also screenshot with it (have to investigate)
- Management of track camera files including TV1, TV2 and Pit camera.
(have to investigate)
- Things that I can not think of now.
After that:
- Trying to lower my GPL rank.
I expect to release the Camera Control Master in november.
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> I've seen these types of GPL camera's in a couple of the GPL Mpeg movies >but I haven't a clue how to do such a thing... > > The default TV camera's are located in a fixed position and are focused >on a fixed part of the driver selected. You can zoom and tilt the cameras >as well as have them placed in another fixed position. However, that's all >the editing I've found you can do. That's what I was talking about! user controlled camera's with the mouse
and et..
anyone have a time machine handy? I want to jump forward a few weeks ;-)
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currently Acting as "Head of Marketing"
FILSCA (www.filsca.com)
"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:34:25 GMT, "Michael Barlow"
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> > I've seen these types of GPL camera's in a couple of the GPL Mpeg
movies
> >but I haven't a clue how to do such a thing...
> >
>
> Maybe this text from Peter's site will clear things up a bit:
>
> Currently I am extending the Car Camera Manager with a lot of new
> features, because it is not only car camera stuff anymore I will
> rename it to Camera Control Master:
> My plans for the upcoming versions are:
>
> Next version:
> - User control of car cameras by mouse and steering wheel. This will
> be available on the "roll bar" camera (already did mouse and it looks
> great)
> - Camera effects by user script defining a movement. This will be
> available on the "roll bar" camera. (already did it and it also looks
> great)
> - Synchronisation of user control and effects with GPL2AVI (already
> did it)
> - User control of the pit camera (already did it)
> - Multiple file support (not done yet)
> - Launch buttons for the most important utilities and of course GPL
> itself (not done yet)
>
> Later version or next version:
> - Saving camera positions, to use the manager also as editor
> - Saving also screenshot with it (have to investigate)
> - Management of track camera files including TV1, TV2 and Pit camera.
> (have to investigate)
> - Things that I can not think of now.
>
> After that:
> - Trying to lower my GPL rank.
>
> I expect to release the Camera Control Master in november.
>
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 18:18:09 GMT, "Michael Barlow"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
> That's what I was talking about! user controlled camera's with the mouse
>and et..
>anyone have a time machine handy? I want to jump forward a few weeks ;-)
Just wait a couple of years until they invent the machine, than copy
the software and jump back to now.
If that is ever to happen btw, you are supposed to have it... now.
Ruud van Gaal
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