Hosting N4 with DSL

Has anyone had experience with hosting N4 with a 768k DSL line? We have our server sitting at an ISP right now. But a good deal has came available for this DSL line, saving a good bit of money. But if we can't host 20-25 cars with quality, it won't be worth it. Thanks for any input.

Hosting 25 cars in N4 will require 525kbs of throughput. Assuming your DSL line has at least 384kbs upload, you should be fine. The drawback to hosting via a DSL line is that the line can be less stable than a co-located server. But... it's certainly cheaper. :-) -Paul Western States Racing League www.wsrlracing.com "T. Wortman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bc4c387.1998793@news... > Has anyone had experience with hosting N4 with a 768k DSL line? We > have our server sitting at an ISP right now. But a good deal has came > available for this DSL line, saving a good bit of money. But if we > can't host 20-25 cars with quality, it won't be worth it. Thanks for > any input.

I have a medium to medium poor connect with DSL and can only host dedicated about 8 ppl with consistant smoothness. This game is a bandwidth hog. T. Wortman wrote: >Has anyone had experience with hosting N4 with a 768k DSL line? We >have our server sitting at an ISP right now. But a good deal has came >available for this DSL line, saving a good bit of money. But if we >can't host 20-25 cars with quality, it won't be worth it. Thanks for >any input. >

Tim, I can host 20+ just fine on my dsl line, I have had as many as 30 on. . At www.dslreports.com my speed measures usually about 500kbps down and 400kbps up. I am curious though as to how much you pay to locate a server at an ISP and do they charge for actual bandwidth/bytes, How does that work ? Also will they let you use software like pcanywhere or vnc to control you're remote server. Also If you're server happens to crash 'windows machine ya know' do they have folks on site that can reset for you. thanks -Dave "T. Wortman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bc4c387.1998793@news... > Has anyone had experience with hosting N4 with a 768k DSL line? We > have our server sitting at an ISP right now. But a good deal has came > available for this DSL line, saving a good bit of money. But if we > can't host 20-25 cars with quality, it won't be worth it. Thanks for > any input.

For the record we never had any success at all with a DSL host in N3 for more than about 10 people no matter what bandwidth was the host had. We never even tried it in N4. > I am curious though as to how much you pay to locate a server at an ISP > and do they charge for actual bandwidth/bytes, How does that work ? This can vary widely. For a typical N4 collocated server you're not talking about a lot of bandwidth (in real internet server terms) so you can get the cheaper rates. In my experience you get what you pay for. Great ISP sites with a top notch backbone and routers demand more money. You can get it from $50 a month up to $1000 or more depending on the ISP. The average for a pretty good one is about $100-$400 a month depending on where you locate it. Yes, almost all of them charge by bandwidth, but again that's not usually an issue for N4 unless you run a ton of servers or do other things on the server that cause the bandwidth usage to go up. > Also will they let you use software like pcanywhere or vnc to control > you're remote > server. Yes. >>Also If you're server happens to crash 'windows machine ya know' do > they have > folks on site that can reset for you.<< Yes. Most sites either automatically reboot for you, have a web site to do it, or do it after you call them. Tom "DB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Tim, > > I can host 20+ just fine on my dsl line, I have had as many as 30 on. .At

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> www.dslreports.com my speed measures usually about 500kbps down > and 400kbps up. > I am curious though as to how much you pay to locate a server at an ISP > and do they charge for actual bandwidth/bytes, How does that work ? > Also will they let you use software like pcanywhere or vnc to control > you're remote > server. Also If you're server happens to crash 'windows machine ya know'

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> they have > folks on site that can reset for you. > > thanks > -Dave > > "T. Wortman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3bc4c387.1998793@news... > > Has anyone had experience with hosting N4 with a 768k DSL line? We > > have our server sitting at an ISP right now. But a good deal has came > > available for this DSL line, saving a good bit of money. But if we > > can't host 20-25 cars with quality, it won't be worth it. Thanks for > > any input. > >

Thanks for the answers Tom :) I think I am luckier than most in that I'm getting SDSL like quality because my ISP services small cities but seems to have a nice fat pipe to the backbone. I guess if I where replacing a ISP located server I would definitely look into SDSL service but that probably wouldn't be much of a money savings. Good luck to ya Tim, Thanks again Tom -Dave "Tom Oliver" <tomol(removethis)@oz.net> wrote in message news:3bc4eaf3$[email hidden]... > For the record we never had any success at all with a DSL host in N3 for > more than about 10 people no matter what bandwidth was the host had. We > never even tried it in N4. > > > I am curious though as to how much you pay to locate a server at anISP > > and do they charge for actual bandwidth/bytes, How does that work ? > > This can vary widely. For a typical N4 collocated server you're nottalking > about a lot of bandwidth (in real internet server terms) so you can getthe > cheaper rates. In my experience you get what you pay for. Great ISP sites > with a top notch backbone and routers demand more money. You can get itfrom > $50 a month up to $1000 or more depending on the ISP. The average for a > pretty good one is about $100-$400 a month depending on where you locateit. > Yes, almost all of them charge by bandwidth, but again that's not usuallyan

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> issue for N4 unless you run a ton of servers or do other things on the > server that cause the bandwidth usage to go up. > > > Also will they let you use software like pcanywhere or vnc to control > > you're remote > > server. > > Yes. > > >>Also If you're server happens to crash 'windows machine ya know' do > > they have > > folks on site that can reset for you.<< > > Yes. Most sites either automatically reboot for you, have a web site to do > it, or do it after you call them. > > Tom > > "DB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Tim, > > > > I can host 20+ just fine on my dsl line, I have had as many as 30 on.

. > At > > www.dslreports.com my speed measures usually about 500kbps down > > and 400kbps up. > > I am curious though as to how much you pay to locate a server at anISP

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> > and do they charge for actual bandwidth/bytes, How does that work ? > > Also will they let you use software like pcanywhere or vnc to control > > you're remote > > server. Also If you're server happens to crash 'windows machine ya know' > do > > they have > > folks on site that can reset for you. > > > > thanks > > -Dave > > > > "T. Wortman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3bc4c387.1998793@news... > > > Has anyone had experience with hosting N4 with a 768k DSL line? We > > > have our server sitting at an ISP right now. But a good deal has came > > > available for this DSL line, saving a good bit of money. But if we > > > can't host 20-25 cars with quality, it won't be worth it. Thanks for > > > any input. > > > > > >

My ADSL with SWBell has actually been quite good. 1.5 down/128K up. I've hosted 5 on N4 with no problems. Behind a hardware firewall too. I need to host a race sometime for more and see what happens I guess. Anyone up for a race tonight? "T. Wortman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bc4c387.1998793@news... > Has anyone had experience with hosting N4 with a 768k DSL line? We > have our server sitting at an ISP right now. But a good deal has came > available for this DSL line, saving a good bit of money. But if we > can't host 20-25 cars with quality, it won't be worth it. Thanks for > any input.