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F1 2001 cant touch F1RC

23 posts by 17 people · 11 Oct 2001 20:39 UTC - 16 Oct 2001 03:15 UTC

One-line claim that F1RC beats F1 2001

Paulo Leao posted that F1 Racing Championship was better than F1 2001 in every respect, and regulars treated it as a troll and mocked it. A minor debate followed over whether F1 2001's 200 Hz physics rate alone proves better physics, with John Bodin saying its parameters also suggested sophistication.

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On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:39:33 +0100, "Paulo Leao" <[email hidden]> wrote: >F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt Yeah, especially the physics category. I mean, how could F1 2001 ever hope to measure up with only a 200 Hz physics engine. After all, F1RC's physics engine runs at . . . uh, gee, what does it run at? :-\ -- JB
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:39:33 +0100, "Paulo Leao" <[email hidden]> wrote: >F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt Well, that settles the F1RC vs F1 2001 discussion then. Andre
here we go.... now you've done it.... :-) "Paulo Leao" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9q50kl$lai$[email hidden]... > F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt > >
well, he does have a point! your tires don't get brown when you drive in a gravel trap! (not that i make a habit of driving through them or anything) "Paulo Leao" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9q50kl$lai$[email hidden]... > F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt > >
Care to provide some argumentation? Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "Paulo Leao" wrote... > F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt > >
because. ;o) "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Care to provide some argumentation? > > Jan. > =--- > "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. > > "Paulo Leao" wrote... > > F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt > > > > > >
Maybe he's read so many of those silly "it's no GPL" comments that he thinks a one liner is all that's needed for r.a.s. David G Fisher "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Care to provide some argumentation? > > Jan. > =--- > "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. > > "Paulo Leao" wrote... > > F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt > > > > > >
Hey John.... I don't want to be a spoil sport...but... Just because a program has a 200hz physics engine, doesn't mean it is necessarily better. I mean 200hz of crap still won't beat 50hz of something good. Now saying the 200hz f1 2k+1 engine allows fizzics that overwhelm those of... say.... F1rc is a qualitive statement and if you can present facts to back it up, then that kind of statement will better support your argument. If that fails you can always fall back to the tried and true... "my Dad can whup your Dad!" dave henrie "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:39:33 +0100, "Paulo Leao" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt > > Yeah, especially the physics category. I mean, how could F1 2001 ever > hope to measure up with only a 200 Hz physics engine. After all, > F1RC's physics engine runs at . . . uh, gee, what does it run at? > > :-\ > > -- JB >
ROFL :) "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:39:33 +0100, "Paulo Leao" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt > > Well, that settles the F1RC vs F1 2001 discussion then. > > Andre
oh well, that settles that one then! "Paulo Leao" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9q50kl$lai$[email hidden]... > F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt > >
"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: > Maybe he's read so many of those silly "it's no GPL" comments that he thinks > a one liner is all that's needed for r.a.s. Come to think about it, there hasn't been many "it's no GPL" posts about F1 2001 ? But for once, you are probably right :)
Quoted text (17 lines)> David G Fisher > > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Care to provide some argumentation? > > > > Jan. > > =--- > > "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. > > > > "Paulo Leao" wrote... > > > F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt > > > > > > > > > > >
-- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying
It's no GPL ....there :) I said it..... Ash :) "Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: | | > Maybe he's read so many of those silly "it's no GPL" comments that hethinks
Quoted text (28 lines)| > a one liner is all that's needed for r.a.s. | | Come to think about it, there hasn't been many "it's no GPL" posts | about F1 2001 ? | | But for once, you are probably right :) | | > David G Fisher | > | > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:[email hidden]... | > > Care to provide some argumentation? | > > | > > Jan. | > > =--- | > > "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. | > > | > > "Paulo Leao" wrote... | > > > F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt | > > > | > > > | > > | > > | > | | -- | Olav K. Malmin | remove .spam when replying
I'll second that. When Andr� is good he is very droll. Very dry, very British. :-) "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse news:Rwrx7.6530$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> ROFL :) > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:39:33 +0100, "Paulo Leao" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt > > > > Well, that settles the F1RC vs F1 2001 discussion then. > > > > Andre > >
What's with the cardboard sticking out from the car in all directions? Especielly in the front and rear? Did they forget to use duct tape? Won't that ruin the clean airflow? "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse news:vtqx7.122121$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (20 lines)> Maybe he's read so many of those silly "it's no GPL" comments that he thinks > a one liner is all that's needed for r.a.s. > > David G Fisher > > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Care to provide some argumentation? > > > > Jan. > > =--- > > "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. > > > > "Paulo Leao" wrote... > > > F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt > > > > > > > > > > >
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Care to provide some argumentation? >augmentation ? Like in Deus-Ex ?
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:04:18 +0100, Rob Swindells <[email hidden]> wrote: >TROLL-O-METER > >1--2--3--4--5--6--7--8--9--10 > ^you are here. > >Must try harder. LOL - Good one :D Rafe Mc
On 12 Oct 2001 09:23:41 +0200, [email hidden] (Olav K. Malmin) wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)>Come to think about it, there hasn't been many "it's no GPL" posts >about F1 2001 ? > >But for once, you are probably right :) >-- >Olav K. Malmin >remove .spam when replying
Because.. ssttt.. because this one actually comes close to being a GPL.. Andre
Frankly, Dave, the fact that the physics engine is running at 200hz, combined with with what I have seen regarding the physics parameters in the various F1 2001 files, provides me with a fair level of certainty that there is some fairly sophisticated physics going on with F1 2001. My own experience behind the wheel in F1 2001 backs this up, using the acknowledged physics benchmark, GPL, as my reference. F1RC, on the other hand, the physics in F1RC seems about as sophisticated as F1WGP, based on my own experience with both of those games. :-/ -- JB On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 00:41:52 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (29 lines)> Hey John.... >I don't want to be a spoil sport...but... > Just because a program has a 200hz physics engine, doesn't mean >it is necessarily better. I mean 200hz of crap still won't beat 50hz of >something good. Now saying the 200hz f1 2k+1 engine allows fizzics that >overwhelm those of... say.... F1rc is a qualitive statement and if you can >present facts to back it up, then that kind of statement will better support >your argument. > If that fails you can always fall back to the tried and true... >"my Dad can whup your Dad!" > >dave henrie >"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:39:33 +0100, "Paulo Leao" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt >> >> Yeah, especially the physics category. I mean, how could F1 2001 ever >> hope to measure up with only a 200 Hz physics engine. After all, >> F1RC's physics engine runs at . . . uh, gee, what does it run at? >> >> :-\ >> >> -- JB >> > >
"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> Frankly, Dave, the fact that the physics engine is running at 200hz, > combined with with what I have seen regarding the physics parameters > in the various F1 2001 files, provides me with a fair level of > certainty that there is some fairly sophisticated physics going on > with F1 2001. My own experience behind the wheel in F1 2001 backs > this up, using the acknowledged physics benchmark, GPL, as my > reference.
I would agree based on the other comments on this board. BUt, I'm still just being picky...your reply was something like ... "it's better because it runs at 200hz" I remember when GPL came out and the programmers made a big deal about using a much higher hz rate than before. But they never told us what the higher clock rate did. Your mini-review gave me more info on the subject than what I had previously learned. But... since the original questioner didn't seem to understand what the improvements in F12001 were, your answer was too short...you should have said .. 'it's better than f12000 or F1rc because of the 200mhz physics engine, which enables the programmers to.....(fill in the many blanks)' :) dave henrie > > F1RC, on the other hand, the physics in F1RC seems about as > sophisticated as F1WGP, based on my own experience with both of those > games. can't comment on either of those...remember I only got F1cs because of the Pepsi deal...hehehe btw..EA has a new thing on my milk carton called Cybercash...I have a $10 coupon...is F12001 one of the available titles??? dh
Quoted text (13 lines)> > :-/ > > -- JB > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 00:41:52 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > Hey John.... > >I don't want to be a spoil sport...but... > > Just because a program has a 200hz physics engine, doesn't mean > >it is necessarily better. I mean 200hz of crap still won't beat 50hz of > >something good. Now saying the 200hz f1 2k+1 engine allows fizzics
that > >overwhelm those of... say.... F1rc is a qualitive statement and if youcan > >present facts to back it up, then that kind of statement will bettersupport
Quoted text (23 lines)> >your argument. > > If that fails you can always fall back to the tried and true... > >"my Dad can whup your Dad!" > > > >dave henrie > >"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:39:33 +0100, "Paulo Leao" > >> <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> > >> >F1RC is better in all aspects... no doubt > >> > >> Yeah, especially the physics category. I mean, how could F1 2001 ever > >> hope to measure up with only a 200 Hz physics engine. After all, > >> F1RC's physics engine runs at . . . uh, gee, what does it run at? > >> > >> :-\ > >> > >> -- JB > >> > > > > >

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