F1 2001 - no hope of getting better textures and fps?!

I start losing the hope of getting F1 2001 run well! My system: AMD Athalon 1.1 GHz, 256 MB GF2 GTS 32 MB with 12.90 driver Symptoms: - No way of getting else than Triangle rate 1,8Mtri/second O. detail lev. Full T. detail lev. Minimum - Very low fps' when leaving the grid: 8-15 - Quite low fps' in race: 18-22 What I have tried: - different resolutions from bottom to top - both windowedmodes (0, 1) - bios agp settings 32, 64, 128, 256 - bios enabling and disabling the 4X thing - different pci texture memory size from 31 to 127 MB - "best image quality" --> "best performance" - ... The interesting part of the config.ini is (one version): CPURATING=4 SYSTEMRAM=256 VIDEORAM=53 OBJDETAIL=3 TEXDETAIL=0 VIDEOGUID=D7B71E3E-4210-11CF-B877-463001C2C935 VIDEODRIVER=0 VIDEOMODE=6 WINDOWEDMODE=0 PRIMARYONLY=0 FSAA=0 VSYNC=0 I suppose the problem has something to do with triangle rate and textures. But what could it be?? What surprises me most is that those two parametrs do not seem to change, whatever I do! Any clever ideas? Arto -- http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/music.html

You didn't list 16 bit in your list. I got terrible performance with 32bit and incredibly good performance with 16bit at 1280x1024 2x2 AA. I have Duron 950, Geforce GTS 2 64MB. My triangle rate was a lot (can't remember - something like 13Mtri/s). In <wikla.1003169687@kanasaari>, Arto Wikla wrote:

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> I start losing the hope of getting F1 2001 run well! > > My system: AMD Athalon 1.1 GHz, 256 MB > GF2 GTS 32 MB with 12.90 driver > > Symptoms: - No way of getting else than > Triangle rate 1,8Mtri/second > O. detail lev. Full > T. detail lev. Minimum > - Very low fps' when leaving the grid: 8-15 - Quite low fps' > in race: 18-22 > > What I have tried: > - different resolutions from bottom to top - both windowedmodes (0, 1) > - bios agp settings 32, 64, 128, 256 > - bios enabling and disabling the 4X thing - different pci texture > memory size from 31 to 127 MB - "best image quality" --> "best > performance" - ... > > The interesting part of the config.ini is (one version): CPURATING=4 > SYSTEMRAM=256 > VIDEORAM=53 > OBJDETAIL=3 > TEXDETAIL=0 > VIDEOGUID=D7B71E3E-4210-11CF-B877-463001C2C935 VIDEODRIVER=0 VIDEOMODE=6 > WINDOWEDMODE=0 > PRIMARYONLY=0 > FSAA=0 > VSYNC=0 > > I suppose the problem has something to do with triangle rate and > textures. But what could it be?? What surprises me most is that those > two parametrs do not seem to change, whatever I do! > > Any clever ideas? > > Arto

Your Triangle rate is too low. Try Detonator 6.50. Also run fraps in the background. Have FSAA turned off in windows displays settings. "Arto Wikla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wikla.1003169687@kanasaari...

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> I start losing the hope of getting F1 2001 run well! > > My system: AMD Athalon 1.1 GHz, 256 MB > GF2 GTS 32 MB with 12.90 driver > > Symptoms: - No way of getting else than > Triangle rate 1,8Mtri/second > O. detail lev. Full > T. detail lev. Minimum > - Very low fps' when leaving the grid: 8-15 > - Quite low fps' in race: 18-22 > > What I have tried: > - different resolutions from bottom to top > - both windowedmodes (0, 1) > - bios agp settings 32, 64, 128, 256 > - bios enabling and disabling the 4X thing > - different pci texture memory size from 31 to 127 MB > - "best image quality" --> "best performance" > - ... > > The interesting part of the config.ini is (one version): > CPURATING=4 > SYSTEMRAM=256 > VIDEORAM=53 > OBJDETAIL=3 > TEXDETAIL=0 > VIDEOGUID=D7B71E3E-4210-11CF-B877-463001C2C935 > VIDEODRIVER=0 > VIDEOMODE=6 > WINDOWEDMODE=0 > PRIMARYONLY=0 > FSAA=0 > VSYNC=0 > > I suppose the problem has something to do with triangle rate and > textures. But what could it be?? What surprises me most is that > those two parametrs do not seem to change, whatever I do! > > Any clever ideas? > > Arto > -- > http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/music.html

"Ali Ismet Ozkan" <[email hidden]> writes: >Your Triangle rate is too low. Try Detonator 6.50. Also run fraps in the >background. Have FSAA turned off in windows displays settings. Thank you! I have been running fraps in the backgroung. I have FSAA off in the config of F1 2001, but I cannot find this setting in the Win display settings! My 12.90 driver is from the Creative Blaster pages, because my GF2 is also a Creative product. Is this Detonator driver also suitable for my GF2? And I still wonder, why anything I can do with my system, does NOT affect to the Triangle rate! Not even the 640x480 16bit resolution! I think the reason must be something else than my 12.90 driver! Arto -- http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/music.html

speaking of detonator drivers I run 21.81, you can get these from www.geforcefaq.com all I can say is: N4 = 85fps average, running a PIII 800, Geforce Ultra 64mb, 256mb Ram etc.. beleive me, this is nice.. oh yeah runs at 1024x768 too Arto Wikla wrote:

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> > "Ali Ismet Ozkan" <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Your Triangle rate is too low. Try Detonator 6.50. Also run fraps in the > >background. Have FSAA turned off in windows displays settings. > > Thank you! > > I have been running fraps in the backgroung. I have FSAA off in the > config of F1 2001, but I cannot find this setting in the Win display > settings! My 12.90 driver is from the Creative Blaster pages, > because my GF2 is also a Creative product. Is this Detonator driver > also suitable for my GF2? And I still wonder, why anything I can do > with my system, does NOT affect to the Triangle rate! Not even the > 640x480 16bit resolution! I think the reason must be something > else than my 12.90 driver! > > Arto > -- > http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/music.html

"Bill Ryder" <[email hidden]> writes: >You didn't list 16 bit in your list. >I got terrible performance with 32bit and incredibly good performance >with 16bit at 1280x1024 2x2 AA. >I have Duron 950, Geforce GTS 2 64MB. >My triangle rate was a lot (can't remember - something like 13Mtri/s). Thanks Bill! Yes, my display properties are set to "High Color (16 bit)" and I have tried several f1 2001 config variations of both 16 and 32 bits alternatives... Arto -- http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/music.html

On 15 Oct 2001 21:35:04 +0300, [email hidden] (Arto Wikla) wrote: >I start losing the hope of getting F1 2001 run well! > >My system: AMD Athalon 1.1 GHz, 256 MB > GF2 GTS 32 MB with 12.90 driver I have a GTS 32mb and an Athlon @1.466ghz, using Asus 12.90 drivers. I'm getting the following at 1024x768 res 16bit Triangle rate=15.6 obj. det.=full text det=high Maybe you don't have your drivers installed right.

On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:03:52 -0400, Dave Ryerson <[email hidden]> wrote: I have a piii 1ghz (10x100) and a geforce 2 gts 32 mb and the triangle rate is 18.3, but the game stutters. So my drivers are ok, but the I think there must be something wrong with the game in certain configurations. ex

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>I have a GTS 32mb and an Athlon @1.466ghz, using Asus 12.90 drivers. >I'm getting the following at 1024x768 res 16bit > >Triangle rate=15.6 >obj. det.=full >text det=high > >Maybe you don't have your drivers installed right.

On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 03:07:37 GMT, extractor <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:03:52 -0400, Dave Ryerson <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >I have a piii 1ghz (10x100) and a geforce 2 gts 32 mb and the triangle >rate is 18.3, but the game stutters. So my drivers are ok, but the I >think there must be something wrong with the game in certain >configurations. > >ex

Read this FAQ, it might help you. http://www.jensonf1.com/f12001/

On 15 Oct 2001 23:53:21 +0300, [email hidden] (Arto Wikla) wrote:

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>"Ali Ismet Ozkan" <[email hidden]> writes: > >>Your Triangle rate is too low. Try Detonator 6.50. Also run fraps in the >>background. Have FSAA turned off in windows displays settings. > >Thank you! > >I have been running fraps in the backgroung. I have FSAA off in the >config of F1 2001, but I cannot find this setting in the Win display

I have the same problems with the 12.90 drivers, I don't get a geforce properties tab in windows with these drivers. Try 12.81, I do get the properties tab with those. Andre

On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:35:15 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote: >I have the same problems with the 12.90 drivers, I don't get a geforce >properties tab in windows with these drivers. Try 12.81, I do get the >properties tab with those. > >Andre The WHQL 12.90 drivers have that problem. Get the 12.90 non-whql drivers and you will get the properties tabs.

On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:56:42 -0400, Dave Ryerson <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:35:15 GMT, [email hidden] >(Andre Warringa) wrote: > > >>I have the same problems with the 12.90 drivers, I don't get a geforce >>properties tab in windows with these drivers. Try 12.81, I do get the >>properties tab with those. >> >>Andre > >The WHQL 12.90 drivers have that problem. Get the 12.90 non-whql >drivers and you will get the properties tabs.

Ah!! I thought WHQL meant something like 'official drivers' or something like that so I chose those. Thanks for the tip! Andre

On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:04:44 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote: >Ah!! I thought WHQL meant something like 'official drivers' or >something like that so I chose those. Thanks for the tip! > >Andre Yea, it means they are supposedly tested by Microsoft, but it makes no difference to the speed or compatibility as far as I have noticed.

I went from 12.90 to 21.85 and that solved my problem! Thanks to everyone! Arto -- http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/music.html

On 17 Oct 2001 02:14:37 +0300, [email hidden] (Arto Wikla) wrote: >I went from 12.90 to 21.85 and that solved my problem! >Thanks to everyone! > >Arto Good but.. I run it with 12.90 and many other people do.. computers are weird things eh :) Andre

It's good to know that everyone can find at least one good driver for his computer. I have a Voodoo5 and can only use the drivers for F1 2001 that most V5 users hate on F1 2001. ISI claims that V5 owners cannot use FSAA, but I can. I could go one with more weird stuff, but that's enough for today. Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On 17 Oct 2001 02:14:37 +0300, [email hidden] (Arto > Wikla) wrote: > > >I went from 12.90 to 21.85 and that solved my problem! > >Thanks to everyone! > > > >Arto > > Good but.. I run it with 12.90 and many other people do.. computers > are weird things eh :) > > Andre >

"Ali Ismet Ozkan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Zzbz7.17987$[email hidden]... > It's good to know that everyone can find at least one good driver for his > computer. I have a Voodoo5 and can only use the drivers for F1 2001 that > most V5 users hate on F1 2001. ISI claims that V5 owners cannot use FSAA, > but I can. I could go one with more weird stuff, but that's enough for > today. What drivers are you using for your V5 with F1 2001? I'm thinking of buying one to replace my V3 after trying an MX400 and a Kyro II TIA.. Phillip...

http://www.reactorcritical.com/file...in9xME-2102.exe But don't ask me what version this, I have no idea. It works better than 1.04.00 and 1.08.00beta. "Phillip Archer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9qli0j$ot2$[email hidden]... > > "Ali Ismet Ozkan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Zzbz7.17987$[email hidden]... > > It's good to know that everyone can find at least one good driver forhis > > computer. I have a Voodoo5 and can only use the drivers for F1 2001 that > > most V5 users hate on F1 2001. ISI claims that V5 owners cannot useFSAA, > > but I can. I could go one with more weird stuff, but that's enough for > > today. > > What drivers are you using for your V5 with F1 2001? I'm thinking ofbuying > one to replace my V3 after trying an MX400 and a Kyro II > TIA.. > Phillip... > >