SpeedVision, read it and weep.

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Ouch.....that hurts. The place to go for decent race coverage looks like it's headed down the drain. Unfortunately, they won't even notice when I cancel my subscription. It may leave an opportunity for a network to pick up the slack (we can always hope). I wonder how the old broadcast team (Varsha, Hobbs, etc.) feels. Maybe like Howard Stern when the radio station he was working for switched to country music. Spark

Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> wrote on 15 Oct 2001: > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.ht > ml From the article: "We don't think it can be just NASCAR 24 hours a day out of the gate," Brooks says. "It will have some other racing elements. That's probably the right mix to get us started." In other words, they're desperate to go 100% NASCAR as soon as they can make it pay. I feel for you :( -- One-line reply + 300-line quote = unread post. The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

Thanks, Dave. There are Yanks who really aren't interested in watching NASCAR. I've fallen in love with touring and rally and it looks like Speedvision -- which I went out of my way to subscribe to -- is now going to be as dismal as the broadcast channels. ACK! On 15 Oct 2001 23:11:26 GMT, [email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote:

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>Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> wrote on 15 Oct 2001: > >> http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.ht >> ml > >From the article: > >"We don't think it can be just NASCAR 24 hours a day out of the gate," >Brooks says. "It will have some other racing elements. That's probably >the right mix to get us started." > >In other words, they're desperate to go 100% NASCAR as soon as they can >make it pay. I feel for you :( > >-- >One-line reply + 300-line quote = unread post. > >The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

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Hi, Awh man! My cable company just started showing SpeedVision here last Friday and really enjoyed the variety of racing that was on this weekend! I hope they keep the GP motorcycle racing. TSN used to show it here but stopped about 10 years ago I believe, it was awesome to see them race again on Sunday night! I like NASCAR, but it will also be sad to see the variety go. I would like to see a touring car race, when is the next one on? Later, John

"Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:913B9CAC5dscurlock@news... : http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html : : Jeez... OK, here's the edited version of this article: blah, blah, NASCAR, blah, blah, NASCAR, blah, blah, NASCAR, blah, blah, NASCAR, blah, blah, NASCAR, NASCAR, NASCAR. Guess I better go to Laguna Seca for holidays next year 'cause I won't be getting ALMS coverage on the SpeedFoxVisionNASCAR channel. Dale.

Ughh... I'm weeping... I do like to watch most of the NASCAR races and I would like to see more of the Winston West and Busch North series, but I'm just disgusted that there'll be no more Goodwood, Legends of Motorsport, F1 Saga, Lap of the Gods, Touring Cars, Motorsport Mundial, etc, etc... Why does everything good always have to be destroyed by the almighty dollar? Nuts! -- ------------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/ ------------------------------------- "Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:913B9CAC5dscurlock@news... > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html > > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. > > GPLRank -14.06 > MonsterRank 98.14 > > Come see how you rank, at the GPLRank site > http://gplrank.ringlord.com/

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Well, it was fun while it lasted, the last couple of paragraphs realy scare me "We don't think it can be just NASCAR 24 hours a day out of the gate," Brooks says. "It will have some other racing elements. That's probably the right mix to get us started". Adds Liberatore: "We're a niche, but within that, we have to be as broad as possible. We want to be the mall. Some go for GNC, some go for Cinnabon. You need both." Out of gate? does this mean in a year or so it will be All NASCAR - All the time?

And on DirecTV, we have the privilage of having to pay $10 a month extra just to get this damned channel! My mom gets it for free with her full-basic cable package :( -Larry "Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:913B9CAC5dscurlock@news...

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It's even worse than I let myself believe...RATSH!% RATSH!% RATSH!% dang... dave(anybody gotta bar of soap?)henrie "Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:913B9CAC5dscurlock@news...

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"Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:913B9CAC5dscurlock@news... > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html Well, it's been great while it lasted. Live F1 races and qualifying.... 24 Hours of Daytona live... Le Mans... Sebring... Legends of Motorsports- I'll miss them all. It's almost like being jilted. Or so I've heard. :-/

Look at it this way... NBC/Fox have invested a ton of money. There is already a lot of coverage of Nascar on the local fox affiliates. They are going to over saturate with Nascar to the point where people will get sick of it and start turning away. They have already started to see this. Attendance has been down this year (and it wasn't just due to the loss of Earnhardt). Like everything, it'll peak then die. I do lament the loss of what was finally the enthusiasts network, but that's the way it goes in $America$! "nobodyspecial" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:o9Ny7.165863$[email hidden]... > > "Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:913B9CAC5dscurlock@news... > > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html > > Well, it's been great while it lasted. Live F1 races and qualifying....24 > Hours of Daytona live... Le Mans... Sebring... Legends of Motorsports-I'll > miss them all. It's almost like being jilted. Or so I've heard. :-/ >

nrvsreck wrote: Why > does everything good always have to be destroyed by the almighty dollar? The second law of thermodynamics. -Tony-

Ya know, they could still do live F1 practice, qualifying and racing, at 4:30 in the morning here on the west coast. For the Western hemisphere races, U.S., Canada and Brazil, they could play them on the local Fox sports stations, like Fox Sports Northwest out here. Well, I can dream, can't I? Larry

>> http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.ht >> ml As much of a loss as this is for the North American viewers it must be an even bigger loss for people that actually race at high levels. Getting sponsorship money is hard enough as it is. Without the national tv coverage that SpeedVision offered, atracting that advertising money is going to get a lot harder. It's going to hurt the future prospects of many different racing series. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -14.06 MonsterRank 98.14 Come see how you rank, at the GPLRank site http://newgplrank.schuerkamp.de/

The announcers have said they will still keep bidding for the rights to F1. But for how long. It seems the FIA limits the broadcast rights to 1 year contracts. ESPN would love to have F1 back now that they have lost CART and Nascar, but I just don't see the Disney owned network having cash for any major purchases except NFL football. dave henrie "Larry Lindstrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Ya know, they could still do live F1 practice, qualifying > and racing, at 4:30 in the morning here on the west coast. > > For the Western hemisphere races, U.S., Canada and Brazil, > they could play them on the local Fox sports stations, like > Fox Sports Northwest out here. > > Well, I can dream, can't I? > > Larry

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> But for how long. It seems the FIA limits the broadcast rights to 1 > year contracts. ESPN would love to have F1 back now that they have lost > CART and Nascar, but I just don't see the Disney owned network having cash > for any major purchases except NFL football. > dave henrie > "Larry Lindstrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Ya know, they could still do live F1 practice, qualifying > > and racing, at 4:30 in the morning here on the west coast. > > > > For the Western hemisphere races, U.S., Canada and Brazil, > > they could play them on the local Fox sports stations, like > > Fox Sports Northwest out here. > > > > Well, I can dream, can't I? > > > > Larry

"Larry Lindstrom" < > > The announcers have said they will still keep bidding for the rightsto > > F1. > > I've given up reading minds, but... I don't know, who ever > said that didn't sound very convincing. Did you notice that?unfortunately yes... dh

"Sharlene Hamblin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<WsNy7.3739$[email hidden]>... > They are going to over saturate with Nascar to the point where people will > get sick of it and start turning away. They have already started to see > this. Attendance has been down this year (and it wasn't just due to the loss > of Earnhardt). Like everything, it'll peak then die. I think the reason attendance is down is due to the general level of economic uncertainty driving a reduction in consumer spending, coupled with increasing ticket prices. When a decent seat starts costing $75 or $100, most folks start having better things to spend their money on. I live within an easy drive of probably 1/2 of the races, and I haven't been to a single one in about 5 years because the ticket prices are just ridiculous. I don't know anyone who quit going because Earnhardt died. Gerald Moore

I'm in the EXACT same boat as you, MrLipid. The good news is that once Speedvision makes the changeover, I can go with one of the lesser subscription plans on the Dish Network and save a few bucks. :-( -- JB On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 00:20:53 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:

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>Thanks, Dave. There are Yanks who really aren't >interested in watching NASCAR. I've fallen in >love with touring and rally and it looks like >Speedvision -- which I went out of my way to >subscribe to -- is now going to be as dismal as >the broadcast channels. ACK! > >On 15 Oct 2001 23:11:26 GMT, >[email hidden] (David Buttery) >wrote: > >>Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> wrote on 15 Oct 2001: >> >>> http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.ht >>> ml >> >>From the article: >> >>"We don't think it can be just NASCAR 24 hours a day out of the gate," >>Brooks says. "It will have some other racing elements. That's probably >>the right mix to get us started." >> >>In other words, they're desperate to go 100% NASCAR as soon as they can >>make it pay. I feel for you :( >> >>-- >>One-line reply + 300-line quote = unread post. >> >>The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com > > >Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

In article <d5Ny7.13945$[email hidden]>, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes: > It's even worse than I let myself believe...RATSH!% RATSH!% RATSH!% >dang... I like NASCAR, but doesn't it ALREADY get enough coverage?!? At least I don't have to pay extra for Speedvision. If I did, I'd be cancelling it right now... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +360.54... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <2kPy7.14452$[email hidden]>, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes: > The announcers have said they will still keep bidding for the rights to >F1. But for how long. Yeah, I heard them talking about that on the Japan F1 telecast. It sounded like they were saying(between the lines) "don't hold your breath, or get your hopes up..." :-( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +360.54... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<2kPy7.14452$[email hidden]>... > The announcers have said they will still keep bidding for the rights to > F1. But for how long. It seems the FIA limits the broadcast rights to 1 > year contracts. ESPN would love to have F1 back now that they have lost > CART and Nascar, but I just don't see the Disney owned network having cash > for any major purchases except NFL football. > dave henrie It could be argued that one of these years, we're going to get ZERO f1 coverage in USA :( Very frickin' sad. I'll have no reason to get up at 4:30am to watch the euro races, or fall asleep after the start from trying to stay awake all night. Both ESPN and Fox and Speedvision all underestimate the fan base of F1 in America. C'est la vie, they say :( I'm so sick of Bernie I could puke. SHOW THE DIGITAL FEED IN USA ON ESPN FOREVER AND WATCH IT GROW IN AMERICA. It's the pinnacle of motorsport, fans will watch. Bone

I was under the impression that it and Outdoor Life had been added to Total Choice. I keep the $10/month sports package for the Speedvision and NASCAR reruns on the Fox Sports Net affiliates. -- ------------------------------------- Morgan Vincent Wooten http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/ ------------------------------------- "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EZMy7.1477$%[email hidden]... > And on DirecTV, we have the privilage of having to pay $10 a month extra > just to get this damned channel! > > My mom gets it for free with her full-basic cable package :( > > -Larry > > "Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:913B9CAC5dscurlock@news... > > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html > > > > > > -- > > Don Scurlock > > Vancouver,B.C. > > > > GPLRank -14.06 > > MonsterRank 98.14 > > > > Come see how you rank, at the GPLRank site > > http://gplrank.ringlord.com/ > >

lol i got up at 1:00 am est to watch the suzuka race On 16 Oct 2001 10:48:17 -0700, [email hidden] (Hammer) wrote:

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>"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<2kPy7.14452$[email hidden]>... >> The announcers have said they will still keep bidding for the rights to >> F1. But for how long. It seems the FIA limits the broadcast rights to 1 >> year contracts. ESPN would love to have F1 back now that they have lost >> CART and Nascar, but I just don't see the Disney owned network having cash >> for any major purchases except NFL football. >> dave henrie > >It could be argued that one of these years, we're going to get ZERO f1 >coverage in USA :( Very frickin' sad. I'll have no reason to get up >at 4:30am to watch the euro races, or fall asleep after the start from >trying to stay awake all night. > >Both ESPN and Fox and Speedvision all underestimate the fan base of F1 >in America. C'est la vie, they say :( I'm so sick of Bernie I could >puke. SHOW THE DIGITAL FEED IN USA ON ESPN FOREVER AND WATCH IT GROW >IN AMERICA. It's the pinnacle of motorsport, fans will watch. > >Bone

One important question, does this mean we'll lose Michele Smith on American Thunder? <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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news:<2kPy7.14452$[email hidden]>... > >> The announcers have said they will still keep bidding for the rights to > >> F1. But for how long. It seems the FIA limits the broadcast rightsto 1 > >> year contracts. ESPN would love to have F1 back now that they havelost > >> CART and Nascar, but I just don't see the Disney owned network havingcash

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> >> for any major purchases except NFL football. > >> dave henrie > > > >It could be argued that one of these years, we're going to get ZERO f1 > >coverage in USA :( Very frickin' sad. I'll have no reason to get up > >at 4:30am to watch the euro races, or fall asleep after the start from > >trying to stay awake all night. > > > >Both ESPN and Fox and Speedvision all underestimate the fan base of F1 > >in America. C'est la vie, they say :( I'm so sick of Bernie I could > >puke. SHOW THE DIGITAL FEED IN USA ON ESPN FOREVER AND WATCH IT GROW > >IN AMERICA. It's the pinnacle of motorsport, fans will watch. > > > >Bone >

"Don Awalt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bcc9175$[email hidden]... > One important question, does this mean we'll lose Michele Smith onAmerican > Thunder? SV hasn't been the same since Wendy Walsh lost her blond Dye :) dave henrie

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> > >> F1. But for how long. It seems the FIA limits the broadcast rights > to 1 > > >> year contracts. ESPN would love to have F1 back now that they have > lost > > >> CART and Nascar, but I just don't see the Disney owned network having > cash > > >> for any major purchases except NFL football. > > >> dave henrie > > > > > >It could be argued that one of these years, we're going to get ZERO f1 > > >coverage in USA :( Very frickin' sad. I'll have no reason to get up > > >at 4:30am to watch the euro races, or fall asleep after the start from > > >trying to stay awake all night. > > > > > >Both ESPN and Fox and Speedvision all underestimate the fan base of F1 > > >in America. C'est la vie, they say :( I'm so sick of Bernie I could > > >puke. SHOW THE DIGITAL FEED IN USA ON ESPN FOREVER AND WATCH IT GROW > > >IN AMERICA. It's the pinnacle of motorsport, fans will watch. > > > > > >Bone > > > >

On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:42:15 -0500, "nrvsreck" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Ughh... I'm weeping... I do like to watch most of the NASCAR races and I >would like to see more of the Winston West and Busch North series, but I'm >just disgusted that there'll be no more Goodwood, Legends of Motorsport, F1 >Saga, Lap of the Gods, Touring Cars, Motorsport Mundial, etc, etc... Why >does everything good always have to be destroyed by the almighty dollar? >Nuts! The worst part is, in the article it says that Speedvision became profitable last year. What idiot at Fox sees that and thinks "Hey, lets take a profitable network and totally change every program on it!" I know there are a ton of Nascar fans but come on, if the market is that big, then create ANOTHER NETWORK! Fox sports net has so many different channels on DirecTV, and they just added a Fox sports world. Why do they feel the need to kill a perfectly good network to create a new one? I just hope the original execs. from speedvision go out and form another network as a Speedvision replacement, with coverage of all the other great series... all the touring car series, trans-am, ALMS, GP bikes, World Superbike, AMA superbike, dirt bikes, all the boating shows, the aircraft shows.. good god I never realized how much variety is on that channel. And they want to turn it into a channel for one goddamn race series? I know Nascar has many different series in it, but they're all just boxy shite cars going around in circles. ARRGH!

For years I badgered the cable company about providing Speedvision. Now that Speedvision will be a shadow of it's former self, I'm sure it will be added on the next system rebuild. When cable was first available to me, ESPN wasn't included but TNN covered alot of racing that was great to watch. I enjoyed what I could and hoped that more owuld be offered. I voiced my opinion and saw no change for years. When ESPN and ESPN2 were staples for the cable providers, ABC became involved and chose to ruin any Motorsports coverage they provided. The trend seems to lead to two options. 1) Screw the entertainment media and get your butt to the track to watch the races you want. I'm sure that is no problem as we are all independantly wealthy. or 2) Forget watching races and enjoy the best part- participate ! It doesn't matter if it's computer simulation, go karts, hillclimb, SOLO, stage ralley, TSD ralley, or whatever. If they don't have the brains to understand what WE want, then let them find out the hard way -no audience - no ratings - no money. Sorry to rant, but I got a real problem with the corporate world. Jeff H. El Guapo <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:42:15 -0500, "nrvsreck" <[email hidden]> > wrote:-snipped-

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> > different channels on DirecTV, and they just added a Fox sports world. > Why do they feel the need to kill a perfectly good network to create a > new one? I just hope the original execs. from speedvision go out and > form another network as a Speedvision replacement, with coverage of > all the other great series... all the touring car series, trans-am, > ALMS, GP bikes, World Superbike, AMA superbike, dirt bikes, all the > boating shows, the aircraft shows.. good god I never realized how much > variety is on that channel. And they want to turn it into a channel > for one goddamn race series? I know Nascar has many different series > in it, but they're all just boxy shite cars going around in circles. > ARRGH!

>I like NASCAR, but doesn't it ALREADY get enough coverage?!? At least I >don't >have to pay extra for Speedvision. If I did, I'd be cancelling it right >now... You bastard. :) I'd have to get Digital Cable to even hope to get Speedvision, and that's after getting a special Sports package! They haven't even given any thought to adding it to normal cable here. :( I'm gonna have to shell out even more $$ now to see CART next year, and apparently tons of NASCAR coverage I do NOT need. >=/ ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Webmaster, http://www.gplworld.racesim.net/simcrash

I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but I think Speedvision became profitable this year, due to there increased NASCAR coverage. NASCAR is currently the second or third largest drawing television sport in the states (behind the NFL and perhaps behind MLB). When you consider what Speedvisions shows, with the exception of the F1 races, it is bargain programming. That is what made them profitable. They purchased programming that was cheap, meaning no demand for that material, meaning they keep more of there sponsor revenue. Now the arguement could be made that sponsor revenue went up, but honestly I don't think most of there programming is a big sponsor draw. Hours of powerboat and motorcycle racing are not going to win any ratings wars. It is mostly filler material. I too will miss the diversity of Speedvision, but they have already cut so much of the great racing that theyhad shown. When was the last time Speedvision showed some of the great touring car racing from Germany or Australia? They watered down the product already. The group I feel bad about in this switch is the USAR, and the Hooters Cup races. They have put on some good racing, and I fear that will be lost in the switch. But on a positive note, perhaps more regional NASCAR series will see expanded coverage. I don't know how many of you have seen the Featherlite Modified series, but when they race it is a great show, and when they run at Louden, well they kick the Winston Cup cars collective asses. Very exciting. It will be something to watch. I expect the change to happen for the next Daytona 500, as it would be the best time to roll out this new network, since this 500 will be a very emotional one. I'll be watching, as I am sure many of you will be at least at first. btgoss "Dan Belcher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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haven't > even given any thought to adding it to normal cable here. :( I'm gonnahave > to shell out even more $$ now to see CART next year, and apparently tonsof > NASCAR coverage I do NOT need. >=/ > > ----------------------------------------- > Dan Belcher > Webmaster, > http://www.gplworld.racesim.net/simcrash

From what I remember, the NBC/tnn//Fox/fox deal will last several years. So we will have the Nascar channel, but the races will be elsewhere.. dave henrie "btgoss" <mcsevil@ <snips> > But on a positive note, perhaps more regional NASCAR series will see > expanded coverage. I don't know how many of you have seen the Featherlite > Modified series, but when they race it is a great show, and when they runat > Louden, well they kick the Winston Cup cars collective asses. Veryexciting. > It will be something to watch. I expect the change to happen for the next > Daytona 500, as it would be the best time to roll out this new network, > since this 500 will be a very emotional one. I'll be watching, as I amsure

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>>I like NASCAR, but doesn't it ALREADY get enough coverage?!? At least I >>don't >>have to pay extra for Speedvision. If I did, I'd be cancelling it right >>now... > > >You bastard. :) I'd have to get Digital Cable to even hope to get >Speedvision, and that's after getting a special Sports package! They haven't >even given any thought to adding it to normal cable here. :( I'm gonna have >to shell out even more $$ now to see CART next year, and apparently tons of >NASCAR coverage I do NOT need. >=/

Brat...<g> Ok - I get Speedvision with my basic cable. You're a faster sim-driver than I am. Wanna trade? I didn't *think* so... :-) Besides, don't your PARENTS pay for the cable? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +360.54... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I am deeply saddened by this. I will miss DeCadenet, Hobbs, Varsha, Despain, and I even started to get a feel for Posey. The history. The events. Those wonderful shows that celebrated motorsport just for the sake of motor sport..... :-( The press release said this, "It should be like Must See TV, focused and concentrated," he says. "People expect to be dazzled. That's what we have to live up to." Like ESPN or MTV trying to show a sporting event - Somewhere between the tits and ass and Mt. Dew I thought I saw a guy go by on a snowboard.... *now* I understand what world class alpine is all about. :-( Fortunately, it's a separate package unto itself on DTV. It's gone at the first sign of cheese. -- "You would think that Schumacher would've backed down by this point ." (Bob Varsha - As Michael and Ralf go side by side, full brake lock, through the chicken at Suzuka.) mark "Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:913B9CAC5dscurlock@news... > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html > > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. > > GPLRank -14.06 > MonsterRank 98.14 > > Come see how you rank, at the GPLRank site > http://gplrank.ringlord.com/

El Guapo wrote: > The worst part is, in the article it says that Speedvision became > profitable last year. What idiot at Fox sees that and thinks "Hey, > lets take a profitable network and totally change every program on > it!" I know there are a ton of Nascar fans but come on, if the market > is that big, then create ANOTHER NETWORK! I think this is spot-on. As I recall, the cable companies and satellite broadcasters sold the consumer market on the notion that program variety would greatly increase, because the large number of available channels would mean that they could do far more non-mainstream shows, and in fact, could afford to broadcast almost anything because they only needed to make money on key channels. Fox at one point (the head guy I mean, in an interview around 1999) even went so far as to say they have to pay for all that bandwidth anyway, so they would definitely be putting out a lot more. It was either him or Ted Turner that said that no longer would we be inundated with American football, but would see all the world's sports because it would no longer matter because they now had the bandwidth for broad and diverse coverage. Hello? Why is it that actual non-redundant programming has DECREASED in the last few years? Bastards... -- UNIX/Perl/C/[email hidden]