GPL on a Laptop...?

My office is buying me a new laptop, are there any out there with onboard D3D or 3DFX boards? If not, what frame rate can I expect on a 1Gig machine with say an onboard ATI rage and software.dll?

Art McEwen wrote: > > My office is buying me a new laptop, are there any out there with onboard > D3D or 3DFX boards? If not, what frame rate can I expect on a 1Gig > machine with say an onboard ATI rage and software.dll? 1 ? Either that or you will start using SPF instead...:-), seriously though, I don't think you can expect too much from most of the "mobility" chipsets, however, Toshiba has a model with the GeForce2GO (or something) chipset, which is basically a 16 MB Geforce2 MX I believe, I'm sure other brands have a model or two with this chip as well Over here it's known as "Toshiba Satellite 3000-400", P3-900 with 128 MB RAM, 14" TFT screen and an onboard CD-RW/DVD drive, nice toy if you have the money for it, or have someone else foot the bill of course :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Some laptops have the Geforce2Go installed in them "Art McEwen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9qn5ad$p72$[email hidden]... > My office is buying me a new laptop, are there any out there with onboard > D3D or 3DFX boards? If not, what frame rate can I expect on a 1Gig > machine with say an onboard ATI rage and software.dll? > >

Cliff Roman wrote in message <3bcf2b55$[email hidden]>... >Some laptops have the Geforce2Go installed in them > The latest ATi mobile chips are Radeon-based. I got good performance in Half-Life (3D FPS game, pretty graphically demanding) on a ThinkPad with Celeron 433 and ATi Rage Pro video. That ATi Rage was old tech even at that time. A modern chipset will do *much* better. You shouldn't have trouble running GPL on a modern laptop with ATi Radeon (can't remember the name for mobile Radeon) and the D3D patch. You will notice that the relatively low redraw (not refresh) rate of a TFT panel may smear some graphics. TFT isn't great for fast movement and don't even consider DSTN screens. Dale.

A fellow GPLemans'er.... Art, Noone to my knowledge has ever put 3dfx based chipsets on notebooks, and if they did, it certainly isn't happening anymore since the demise of 3dfx. There is really no such thing as a D3D based card, thats software based, meaning any decent video card with good driver support will support D3D. The faster the card is and the more memory it has will help determine how good an fps u can get, and notebooks are not known for good gaming fps due to lack of vid memory and slower power-saving chipset versions. How the heck r you going to cart around your wheel/pedal combo? -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Art McEwen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9qn5ad$p72$[email hidden]... > My office is buying me a new laptop, are there any out there with onboard > D3D or 3DFX boards? If not, what frame rate can I expect on a 1Gig > machine with say an onboard ATI rage and software.dll? > >

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:56:00 -0400, "Art McEwen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >My office is buying me a new laptop, are there any out there with onboard >D3D or 3DFX boards? If not, what frame rate can I expect on a 1Gig >machine with say an onboard ATI rage and software.dll? I've been kicking around a similar idea myself. No 3Dfx, but check out laptops with either the NVidia GeForce 2Go chip (preferred) or the ATI Mobility Radeon for good D3D performance. The Dell Inspiron 8100 looks particularly good for this. P3-M 866MHz to 1.2GHz (w/133MHz bus), GeGorce 2Go 16 or 32meg, 256meg RAM, 1400x1050 or 1600x1200 res 14" or 15" screens, combo DVD/CD-RW, etc. For around $2000 with a 1GHz and the lower res screen. Check the review at (and note the 95 FPS achieved in Quake III Arena): http://www.zdnet.com/supercenter/stories/overview/0,12069,530581,00.html Comments? "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Dell Inspiron 8100 15" UXGA screen P3 - 1 Ghz 32 meg Geforce2Go 256 meg SDRAM 20 gig HD 36 fps full detail 16 bit tracks and cars (where available) at 1024x768 . At the back of the grid at Monaco it starts at 24 fps builds up to 36 quickly. Very playable As is GP3 and CMR2 Allan F. Cousin "Jeff Vincent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:56:00 -0400, "Art McEwen" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >My office is buying me a new laptop, are there any out there with onboard > >D3D or 3DFX boards? If not, what frame rate can I expect on a 1Gig > >machine with say an onboard ATI rage and software.dll? > > I've been kicking around a similar idea myself. No 3Dfx, but check > out laptops with either the NVidia GeForce 2Go chip (preferred) or the > ATI Mobility Radeon for good D3D performance. > > The Dell Inspiron 8100 looks particularly good for this. P3-M > 866MHz to 1.2GHz (w/133MHz bus), GeGorce 2Go 16 or 32meg, 256meg RAM, > 1400x1050 or 1600x1200 res 14" or 15" screens, combo DVD/CD-RW, etc. > For around $2000 with a 1GHz and the lower res screen. Check the > review at (and note the 95 FPS achieved in Quake III Arena): > http://www.zdnet.com/supercenter/stories/overview/0,12069,530581,00.html > > Comments? > > "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was > nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into > a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Beauty, Dell was on the short list already ;) "BIG AL" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mkMz7.11719$[email hidden]...

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> Dell Inspiron 8100 > 15" UXGA screen > P3 - 1 Ghz > 32 meg Geforce2Go > 256 meg SDRAM > 20 gig HD > > 36 fps full detail 16 bit tracks and cars (where available) at 1024x768 .

At > the back of the grid at Monaco it starts at 24 fps builds up to 36quickly.

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> Very playable > > As is GP3 and CMR2 > > Allan F. Cousin > > "Jeff Vincent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:56:00 -0400, "Art McEwen" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >My office is buying me a new laptop, are there any out there with

onboard

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> > >D3D or 3DFX boards? If not, what frame rate can I expect on a 1Gig > > >machine with say an onboard ATI rage and software.dll? > > > > I've been kicking around a similar idea myself. No 3Dfx, but check > > out laptops with either the NVidia GeForce 2Go chip (preferred) or the > > ATI Mobility Radeon for good D3D performance. > > > > The Dell Inspiron 8100 looks particularly good for this. P3-M > > 866MHz to 1.2GHz (w/133MHz bus), GeGorce 2Go 16 or 32meg, 256meg RAM, > > 1400x1050 or 1600x1200 res 14" or 15" screens, combo DVD/CD-RW, etc. > > For around $2000 with a 1GHz and the lower res screen. Check the > > review at (and note the 95 FPS achieved in Quake III Arena): > > http://www.zdnet.com/supercenter/stories/overview/0,12069,530581,00.html > > > > Comments? > > > > "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was > > nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into > > a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark > >

Consider also the Toshiba Satellite 3000. It drops a good 2 lbs from the weight of the Dell, is quite a bit slimmer. The LCD panel is only XGA, which means you lose some real estate for desktop work, but XGA would pretty much be the sweet spot for games and the GeForce2Go. Running the Dell UXGA panel at XGA introduces some fuzziness. Games will actually look crisper on the XGA panel run at its native resolution. A friend of mine in Canada just picked up a close-out Satellite, PIII-800 or so, GeForce2Go, for $2400. Stephen Art McEwen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9qp9qo$qcc$[email hidden]...

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> Beauty, Dell was on the short list already ;) > > "BIG AL" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:mkMz7.11719$[email hidden]... > > Dell Inspiron 8100 > > 15" UXGA screen > > P3 - 1 Ghz > > 32 meg Geforce2Go > > 256 meg SDRAM > > 20 gig HD > > > > 36 fps full detail 16 bit tracks and cars (where available) at 1024x768

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> At > > the back of the grid at Monaco it starts at 24 fps builds up to 36 > quickly. > > Very playable > > > > As is GP3 and CMR2 > > > > Allan F. Cousin > > > > "Jeff Vincent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:56:00 -0400, "Art McEwen" > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > >My office is buying me a new laptop, are there any out there with > onboard > > > >D3D or 3DFX boards? If not, what frame rate can I expect on a 1Gig > > > >machine with say an onboard ATI rage and software.dll? > > > > > > I've been kicking around a similar idea myself. No 3Dfx, but check > > > out laptops with either the NVidia GeForce 2Go chip (preferred) or the > > > ATI Mobility Radeon for good D3D performance. > > > > > > The Dell Inspiron 8100 looks particularly good for this. P3-M > > > 866MHz to 1.2GHz (w/133MHz bus), GeGorce 2Go 16 or 32meg, 256meg RAM, > > > 1400x1050 or 1600x1200 res 14" or 15" screens, combo DVD/CD-RW, etc. > > > For around $2000 with a 1GHz and the lower res screen. Check the > > > review at (and note the 95 FPS achieved in Quake III Arena): > > >

http://www.zdnet.com/supercenter/stories/overview/0,12069,530581,00.html

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> > > > > > Comments? > > > > > > "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was > > > nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into > > > a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark > > > > > >