Still cant get N4 to run after 1.3 patch!! Help!

I have some serious problems {or I think I do?} with the new patch! I have worked with this for over 10-hours now and re-installed from scratch 5 times! Still once I get past the 1.1 patch and install the 1.3 Nascar 4 wont budge, absolutely nothing! One thing that does work is it will load the net'server.exe but once I host & I get into the track my screen of the track is all black & I can not go onto the track via the "Start" button!! Plus now that it is locked I have all my setups. etc. in there that are worthless unless [a] I get the 1.3 patch to run or [b] get back to the 1.1 patch!! I have *Never* had any problems installing or patching any Sierra or Papyrus products but this really has 'N4' all screwed up! Please help! Anyone! Tia.. Thom_j. PC Specs: CPU Intel P3 1gig,Video GF2GTS-Pro 64megs of ram, Ram on mobo 512megs of PC133, Sound SBLive, Monitor P220f 22" Monitor Professional series, Game controller Guillemot Ferrari FFB Race Wheel, 3-30gig Maxtor 7200-rpms HDs, CDRom only! No DVD or CD re-writer etc. my interent connect is @home cable Nvidia driver version 1241 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001

Posted already by Eric Busch: There appears to be a bug in the Wise installer which on some systems can cause long file names to be truncated to 8.3 format during the patch process. The Sierra.com multiplayer login does a CRC check on the executables and DLLs, and if they are not named properly they will not be found and hence fail the check resulting in the "out of date" error. Rename the following files: NASCAR~1.exe > "NASCAR Racing 4.exe" Sierra~1.dll > "SierraUpN4Res.dll" rendse~1.dll > "Rendserver.dll" And perhaps: Paintkit\n4paint~1.rsc > Paintkit\n4paintkit.rsc - Eric "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZZdA7.144204$[email hidden]...

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> I have some serious problems {or I think I do?} with the new patch! > I have worked with this for over 10-hours now and re-installed from > scratch 5 times! Still once I get past the 1.1 patch and install the 1.3 > Nascar 4 wont budge, absolutely nothing! One thing that does work > is it will load the net'server.exe but once I host & I get into the track > my screen of the track is all black & I can not go onto the track via > the "Start" button!! > Plus now that it is locked I have all my setups. etc. in there that are > worthless unless [a] I get the 1.3 patch to run or [b] get back to the > 1.1 patch!! I have *Never* had any problems installing or patching > any Sierra or Papyrus products but this really has 'N4' all screwed > up! Please help! Anyone! Tia.. Thom_j. > PC Specs: CPU Intel P3 1gig,Video GF2GTS-Pro 64megs of ram, > Ram on mobo 512megs of PC133, Sound SBLive, Monitor P220f > 22" Monitor Professional series, Game controller Guillemot Ferrari > FFB Race Wheel, 3-30gig Maxtor 7200-rpms HDs, CDRom only! > No DVD or CD re-writer etc. my interent connect is @home cable > Nvidia driver version 1241 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001 > >

Holy Moly Thom, I don't know where to start on this. I downloaded the patch from the ftp2.sierra.com site with an FTP client. Even though it did time out during the download and I had to go back in the morning to finish, (they have resume on in the site, :-) I like ftp clients). Ya can't get on this morning, "Too Many Anonymous User's Logged On" suggest a re-download of the patch? Was hesitant about patching after reading about some of these posts. But everything went sweet with only the warning about "Third Party Add Ons". Even though I do have a graphic add-on for the gauges, no problems here. Sheeeit ! I haven't even read the readme yet, Just tested it out in one race and didn't see any great frame rate increase. :(( You didn't mention what OS you were running, Win98??? also what motherboard/chipset do you have? What manufacture of CD-ROM do you have? I don kno, all I can say is sounds like a video driver problem to me, Did you re-run the "Configure 3D Graphics" again? Virus? Trojan? I see in header/message info you are using OE 5.5, there is a new security patch that came out for all version of Internet Explorer on Oct. 10th. suggest upgrading to IE 6.0 & OE 6.0 and putting everything on "High Restrictions". 8 new virus's have come out since October 1st. Oh well that's about it for me Thom, Cheer up thou, Did you see the 500GP from Phillips Island? Great race wasn't it. The F1 Suzuka race was pretty good, or did all the F1 bashers sleep through it?.........he he LOL Hey I like your monitor, I'm bummed, my 19" Sony is acting up and may need to go in for warranty. :((((( I had to go out and buy some High Powered read'in glasses to see this little but sweet Dell Trinitron 15" monitor in 1024x768. Last tip? 10 hours? I think it is time to "A:\format c:" and reinstall everything? naaa just kidding, but 10hrs??? Good Luck, I gotta get off to D.I.S. -- R.I.P. - William Joseph Dunlop OBE MBE 2/25/52 - 7/2/2000 http://www.roadracers.uk.com/legend.htm

He is having problems with the SecuRom protection "Jon Nelson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bd182d0$[email hidden]...

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> Posted already by Eric Busch: > > > > There appears to be a bug in the Wise installer which on some systems > can cause long file names to be truncated to 8.3 format during the patch > process. The Sierra.com multiplayer login does a CRC check on the > executables and DLLs, and if they are not named properly they will not > be found and hence fail the check resulting in the "out of date" error. > > Rename the following files: > NASCAR~1.exe > "NASCAR Racing 4.exe" > Sierra~1.dll > "SierraUpN4Res.dll" > rendse~1.dll > "Rendserver.dll" > > And perhaps: > Paintkit\n4paint~1.rsc > Paintkit\n4paintkit.rsc > > - Eric > > > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ZZdA7.144204$[email hidden]... > > I have some serious problems {or I think I do?} with the new patch! > > I have worked with this for over 10-hours now and re-installed from > > scratch 5 times! Still once I get past the 1.1 patch and install the 1.3 > > Nascar 4 wont budge, absolutely nothing! One thing that does work > > is it will load the net'server.exe but once I host & I get into the

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> > my screen of the track is all black & I can not go onto the track via > > the "Start" button!! > > Plus now that it is locked I have all my setups. etc. in there that are > > worthless unless [a] I get the 1.3 patch to run or [b] get back to the > > 1.1 patch!! I have *Never* had any problems installing or patching > > any Sierra or Papyrus products but this really has 'N4' all screwed > > up! Please help! Anyone! Tia.. Thom_j. > > PC Specs: CPU Intel P3 1gig,Video GF2GTS-Pro 64megs of ram, > > Ram on mobo 512megs of PC133, Sound SBLive, Monitor P220f > > 22" Monitor Professional series, Game controller Guillemot Ferrari > > FFB Race Wheel, 3-30gig Maxtor 7200-rpms HDs, CDRom only! > > No DVD or CD re-writer etc. my interent connect is @home cable > > Nvidia driver version 1241 > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001 > > > > > >

Thom, seems that Sony is using a newer version of SecuRom and this is causing some problems. Here are the messages that Eric has posted and the one about updating your RAID drivers may help you... it also explains why this is happening to some people These are from Eric "How many of you with this problem have HTP370 Raid controllers, either on-board or as a PCI add-on? There seems that certain HTP370 driver/bios combinations are having problems with the SecuROM copy protection. If you haven't already, visit you motherboard manufacturer as well as www.highpoint-tech.com to obtain the latest non-beta release versions and see if it helps the problem." "Each time an executable is "SecuROM'ed" it uses the latest protection Sony has available on their site. Basically we build the executable just as we would for any project, send it to Sony using a utility they provide, the SecuROM protection is applied, and then the now "SecuROM'ed" EXE is sent back to us." "That would be my conclusion as there is nothing in our code that does the copy protection, and as expected the n4server.exe which doesn't use SecuROM seems to work fine on these systems. There's really little if any consumer information available on the SecuROM site: www.securom.com I'll see if our contacts there have any insight or suggestions." "Ok, good news. Both HighPoint and the Sony SecuROM people are aware of the problem and are working on a solution. At this point it's unclear if it will be a HighPoint driver fix or a SecuROM fix, but I'll keep you posted as to what they are able to find out. Until then, you might want to try the older 1.0.3 drivers as these have proven successful for some users. HighPoint recommends that you not connect any CDROM drives to the RAID controller, and instead use the motherboard's standard ATA controller. Additionally if you're currently not using the RAID functionality for your hard drives, you might to temporarily switch them over to the standard ATA controller as well."

Yep. I just re-read the post and the fact that server.exe will run is a good clue. <G> "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bd1af6d$[email hidden]...

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> He is having problems with the SecuRom protection > > > "Jon Nelson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3bd182d0$[email hidden]... > > Posted already by Eric Busch: > > > > > > > > There appears to be a bug in the Wise installer which on some systems > > can cause long file names to be truncated to 8.3 format during the patch > > process. The Sierra.com multiplayer login does a CRC check on the > > executables and DLLs, and if they are not named properly they will not > > be found and hence fail the check resulting in the "out of date" error. > > > > Rename the following files: > > NASCAR~1.exe > "NASCAR Racing 4.exe" > > Sierra~1.dll > "SierraUpN4Res.dll" > > rendse~1.dll > "Rendserver.dll" > > > > And perhaps: > > Paintkit\n4paint~1.rsc > Paintkit\n4paintkit.rsc > > > > - Eric > > > > > > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:ZZdA7.144204$[email hidden]... > > > I have some serious problems {or I think I do?} with the new patch! > > > I have worked with this for over 10-hours now and re-installed from > > > scratch 5 times! Still once I get past the 1.1 patch and install the

1.3 > > > Nascar 4 wont budge, absolutely nothing! One thing that does work > > > is it will load the net'server.exe but once I host & I get into the > track > > > my screen of the track is all black & I can not go onto the track via > > > the "Start" button!! > > > Plus now that it is locked I have all my setups. etc. in there thatare

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> > > worthless unless [a] I get the 1.3 patch to run or [b] get back to the > > > 1.1 patch!! I have *Never* had any problems installing or patching > > > any Sierra or Papyrus products but this really has 'N4' all screwed > > > up! Please help! Anyone! Tia.. Thom_j. > > > PC Specs: CPU Intel P3 1gig,Video GF2GTS-Pro 64megs of ram, > > > Ram on mobo 512megs of PC133, Sound SBLive, Monitor P220f > > > 22" Monitor Professional series, Game controller Guillemot Ferrari > > > FFB Race Wheel, 3-30gig Maxtor 7200-rpms HDs, CDRom only! > > > No DVD or CD re-writer etc. my interent connect is @home cable > > > Nvidia driver version 1241 > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001 > > > > > > > > > > > >

nope sorry Jon this did not happen all 7 times I installed & re-installed the 1.3 patch from my 1.1 pacth version to a fresh off the CD version! I have also emailed Eric directly with this post but I havent heard from him yet... :( Thanx for the reply to my post tho Jon! A frustrated and PO'ed thom_j "Jon Nelson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bd182d0$[email hidden]...

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| Posted already by Eric Busch: | | | | There appears to be a bug in the Wise installer which on some systems | can cause long file names to be truncated to 8.3 format during the patch | process. The Sierra.com multiplayer login does a CRC check on the | executables and DLLs, and if they are not named properly they will not | be found and hence fail the check resulting in the "out of date" error. | | Rename the following files: | NASCAR~1.exe > "NASCAR Racing 4.exe" | Sierra~1.dll > "SierraUpN4Res.dll" | rendse~1.dll > "Rendserver.dll" | | And perhaps: | Paintkit\n4paint~1.rsc > Paintkit\n4paintkit.rsc | | - Eric | | | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:ZZdA7.144204$[email hidden]... | > I have some serious problems {or I think I do?} with the new patch! | > I have worked with this for over 10-hours now and re-installed from | > scratch 5 times! Still once I get past the 1.1 patch and install the 1.3 | > Nascar 4 wont budge, absolutely nothing! One thing that does work | > is it will load the net'server.exe but once I host & I get into the

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| > my screen of the track is all black & I can not go onto the track via | > the "Start" button!! | > Plus now that it is locked I have all my setups. etc. in there that are | > worthless unless [a] I get the 1.3 patch to run or [b] get back to the | > 1.1 patch!! I have *Never* had any problems installing or patching | > any Sierra or Papyrus products but this really has 'N4' all screwed | > up! Please help! Anyone! Tia.. Thom_j. | > PC Specs: CPU Intel P3 1gig,Video GF2GTS-Pro 64megs of ram, | > Ram on mobo 512megs of PC133, Sound SBLive, Monitor P220f | > 22" Monitor Professional series, Game controller Guillemot Ferrari | > FFB Race Wheel, 3-30gig Maxtor 7200-rpms HDs, CDRom only! | > No DVD or CD re-writer etc. my interent connect is @home cable | > Nvidia driver version 1241 | > | > | > --- | > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. | > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | > Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001 | > | > | |

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Yea one "F"in mess! Since you stated many important comments & questions I'll re: between ur re: "REDLINE426" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZDgA7.13206$[email hidden]... | Holy Moly Thom, I don't know where to start on this. | | I downloaded the patch from the ftp2.sierra.com site with an FTP client. | Even though it did time out during the download and I had to go back inthe | morning to finish, (they have resume on in the site, :-) I like ftp | clients). | Ya can't get on this morning, "Too Many Anonymous User's Logged On"suggest | a re-download of the patch? Red are you telling me to re-download form anothe ftp sight just I have a corrupted 1/.3 patch? "makes sense!" | Was hesitant about patching after reading about some of these posts. But | everything went sweet with only the warning about "Third Party Add Ons". | Even though I do have a graphic add-on for the gauges, no problems here. | Sheeeit ! I haven't even read the readme yet, Just tested it out in onerace | and didn't see any great frame rate increase. :(( One of the thing that Pees Me off is that I always back up my old version first but I have been so immeresed in my music that I just didnt think.. stupid Arse me! phew | You didn't mention what OS you were running, Win98??? also what | motherboard/chipset do you have? | What manufacture of CD-ROM do you have? | I don kno, all I can say is sounds like a video driver problem to me, Did | you re-run the "Configure 3D Graphics" again? Sorry! Windows 98SE, mobo Abit SA6R, CDRom just an old Mitsumi Cd-Rom 40xspeed nothing new, Do you mean the 3D Configure within Nascar 4 if I did it over 20 times! :) If you are talking about re-installing drivers my OS, no I didnt | Virus? Trojan? I see in header/message info you are using OE 5.5, there isa | new security patch that came out for all version of Internet Explorer on | Oct. 10th. suggest upgrading to IE 6.0 & OE 6.0 and putting everything on | "High Restrictions". | 8 new virus's have come out since October 1st. I run OE 5.1 not 5.5. but what would this have to do with N4 not running with the new 1.3 patch? btw: I did not know that 6.0 was out? Viruses etc well I use AVG6.0 Anit-Virus & upgrade about twice a week, if not more.. | Oh well that's about it for me Thom, Cheer up thou, Did you see the 500GP | from Phillips Island? Great race wasn't it. | The F1 Suzuka race was pretty good, or did all the F1 bashers sleepthrough | it?.........he he LOL I have been on a "min-sabbatical" from racing with my music thing so I missed it! Really getting into the jazz genre now but also I've been re-studying my music theory, notation etc from almost scratch but I flew thru most of the bsics quickly :) | Hey I like your monitor, I'm bummed, my 19" Sony is acting up and may need | to go in for warranty. :((((( | I had to go out and buy some High Powered read'in glasses to see thislittle | but sweet Dell Trinitron 15" monitor in 1024x768. I just love my 22" Viewsonic! I am selling my 19"er on eBay right now! I always run 1600x1200.. :) | Last tip? 10 hours? I think it is time to "A:\format c:" and reinstall | everything? naaa just kidding, but 10hrs??? lol.. I run Three 30gig HDs & all my games are the D: Drive :) music & photography on E: ...lol | Good Luck, I gotta get off to D.I.S. Thanx I need it! phew.. Cheers Thom_j.

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| -- | R.I.P. - William Joseph Dunlop OBE MBE 2/25/52 - 7/2/2000 | | http://www.roadracers.uk.com/legend.htm | | |

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Sorry Cliff but I am at a loss? I have no Sony equipment & nothing to do with RAID{or I do not think I do?}.. I am runing the Mitsumi CD-Rom FX3205 !B drivers & I run an Asus GF2GTS'Pro 64mgs of ram!! Please detail your reply in regards to my PC system & this SecuROM, etc..! Tia.. Thom_j. "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bd1b0b4$[email hidden]...

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| Thom, seems that Sony is using a newer version of SecuRom and this is | causing some problems. Here are the messages that Eric has posted and the | one about updating your RAID drivers may help you... it also explains why | this is happening to some people | | These are from Eric | | "How many of you with this problem have HTP370 Raid controllers, either | on-board or as a PCI add-on? There seems that certain HTP370 driver/bios | combinations are having problems with the SecuROM copy protection. If you | haven't already, visit you motherboard manufacturer as well as | www.highpoint-tech.com to obtain the latest non-beta release versions and | see if it helps the problem." | | "Each time an executable is "SecuROM'ed" it uses the latest protection

Sony

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| has available on their site. Basically we build the executable just as we | would for any project, send it to Sony using a utility they provide, the | SecuROM protection is applied, and then the now "SecuROM'ed" EXE is sent | back to us." | | "That would be my conclusion as there is nothing in our code that does the | copy protection, and as expected the n4server.exe which doesn't use

SecuROM

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| seems to work fine on these systems. | | There's really little if any consumer information available on the SecuROM | site: www.securom.com I'll see if our contacts there have any insight or | suggestions." | | | "Ok, good news. Both HighPoint and the Sony SecuROM people are aware of

the | problem and are working on a solution. At this point it's unclear if it | will be a HighPoint driver fix or a SecuROM fix, but I'll keep you postedas | to what they are able to find out. | | Until then, you might want to try the older 1.0.3 drivers as these have | proven successful for some users. HighPoint recommends that you notconnect

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| any CDROM drives to the RAID controller, and instead use the motherboard's | standard ATA controller. Additionally if you're currently not using the | RAID functionality for your hard drives, you might to temporarily switch | them over to the standard ATA controller as well." | | | |

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I am still lost guys. What am I doing wrong or what should I change? please help! Tia... Thom_j. "Jon Nelson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bd1ea2e$[email hidden]... | Yep. I just re-read the post and the fact that server.exe will run is agood

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| clue. <G> | | "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:3bd1af6d$[email hidden]... | > He is having problems with the SecuRom protection | > | > | > "Jon Nelson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:3bd182d0$[email hidden]... | > > Posted already by Eric Busch: | > > | > > | > > | > > There appears to be a bug in the Wise installer which on some systems | > > can cause long file names to be truncated to 8.3 format during the

patch | > > process. The Sierra.com multiplayer login does a CRC check on the | > > executables and DLLs, and if they are not named properly they will not | > > be found and hence fail the check resulting in the "out of date"error.

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| > > | > > Rename the following files: | > > NASCAR~1.exe > "NASCAR Racing 4.exe" | > > Sierra~1.dll > "SierraUpN4Res.dll" | > > rendse~1.dll > "Rendserver.dll" | > > | > > And perhaps: | > > Paintkit\n4paint~1.rsc > Paintkit\n4paintkit.rsc | > > | > > - Eric | > > | > > | > > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > > news:ZZdA7.144204$[email hidden]... | > > > I have some serious problems {or I think I do?} with the new patch! | > > > I have worked with this for over 10-hours now and re-installed from | > > > scratch 5 times! Still once I get past the 1.1 patch and install the | 1.3 | > > > Nascar 4 wont budge, absolutely nothing! One thing that does work | > > > is it will load the net'server.exe but once I host & I get into the | > track | > > > my screen of the track is all black & I can not go onto the track

via | > > > the "Start" button!! | > > > Plus now that it is locked I have all my setups. etc. in there that | are | > > > worthless unless [a] I get the 1.3 patch to run or [b] get back tothe

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| > > > 1.1 patch!! I have *Never* had any problems installing or patching | > > > any Sierra or Papyrus products but this really has 'N4' all screwed | > > > up! Please help! Anyone! Tia.. Thom_j. | > > > PC Specs: CPU Intel P3 1gig,Video GF2GTS-Pro 64megs of ram, | > > > Ram on mobo 512megs of PC133, Sound SBLive, Monitor P220f | > > > 22" Monitor Professional series, Game controller Guillemot Ferrari | > > > FFB Race Wheel, 3-30gig Maxtor 7200-rpms HDs, CDRom only! | > > > No DVD or CD re-writer etc. my interent connect is @home cable | > > > Nvidia driver version 1241 | > > > | > > > | > > > --- | > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. | > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | > > > Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001 | > > > | > > > | > > | > > | > | > | |

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Certain motherboards have that RAID controller on board. Obviously I do not know if yours does, but it was just something that seems to be causing most of the problems "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:65oA7.145287$[email hidden]...

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> Sorry Cliff but I am at a loss? I have no Sony equipment & nothing > to do with RAID{or I do not think I do?}.. I am runing the Mitsumi > CD-Rom FX3205 !B drivers & I run an Asus GF2GTS'Pro 64mgs > of ram!! Please detail your reply in regards to my PC system & this > SecuROM, etc..! Tia.. Thom_j. > > "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3bd1b0b4$[email hidden]... > | Thom, seems that Sony is using a newer version of SecuRom and this is > | causing some problems. Here are the messages that Eric has posted and

the > | one about updating your RAID drivers may help you... it also explainswhy > | this is happening to some people > | > | These are from Eric > | > | "How many of you with this problem have HTP370 Raid controllers, either > | on-board or as a PCI add-on? There seems that certain HTP370driver/bios > | combinations are having problems with the SecuROM copy protection. Ifyou > | haven't already, visit you motherboard manufacturer as well as > | www.highpoint-tech.com to obtain the latest non-beta release versionsand > | see if it helps the problem." > | > | "Each time an executable is "SecuROM'ed" it uses the latest protection > Sony > | has available on their site. Basically we build the executable just aswe > | would for any project, send it to Sony using a utility they provide, the > | SecuROM protection is applied, and then the now "SecuROM'ed" EXE is sent > | back to us." > | > | "That would be my conclusion as there is nothing in our code that doesthe > | copy protection, and as expected the n4server.exe which doesn't use > SecuROM > | seems to work fine on these systems. > | > | There's really little if any consumer information available on theSecuROM > | site: www.securom.com I'll see if our contacts there have any insightor

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> | suggestions." > | > | > | "Ok, good news. Both HighPoint and the Sony SecuROM people are aware of > the > | problem and are working on a solution. At this point it's unclear if it > | will be a HighPoint driver fix or a SecuROM fix, but I'll keep you

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> as > | to what they are able to find out. > | > | Until then, you might want to try the older 1.0.3 drivers as these have > | proven successful for some users. HighPoint recommends that you not > connect > | any CDROM drives to the RAID controller, and instead use the

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> | standard ATA controller. Additionally if you're currently not using the > | RAID functionality for your hard drives, you might to temporarily switch > | them over to the standard ATA controller as well." > | > | > | > | > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001 > >

Thanx a lot for the help & info Cliff! I was going thru my system info and hardware profile to find this RAID thing and the HTP370 Raid controllers stuff. phew! I have seen in somewhere but I just can not re-locate it again!! & if I do how do you change this so called drivers tp the 1.03 ones? What a mess just for an "F"in' patch! Sorry Eric but somebody blew it big time at Papy this time!! Damm!! Now, What do I do once I find this RAID driver junk? Tia.. Thom_j. "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | Certain motherboards have that RAID controller on board. | | Obviously I do not know if yours does, but it was just something thatseems

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| to be causing most of the problems | | | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:65oA7.145287$[email hidden]... | > Sorry Cliff but I am at a loss? I have no Sony equipment & nothing | > to do with RAID{or I do not think I do?}.. I am runing the Mitsumi | > CD-Rom FX3205 !B drivers & I run an Asus GF2GTS'Pro 64mgs | > of ram!! Please detail your reply in regards to my PC system & this | > SecuROM, etc..! Tia.. Thom_j. | > | > "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:3bd1b0b4$[email hidden]... | > | Thom, seems that Sony is using a newer version of SecuRom and this is | > | causing some problems. Here are the messages that Eric has posted and | the | > | one about updating your RAID drivers may help you... it also explains | why | > | this is happening to some people | > | | > | These are from Eric | > | | > | "How many of you with this problem have HTP370 Raid controllers,

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| > | on-board or as a PCI add-on? There seems that certain HTP370 | driver/bios | > | combinations are having problems with the SecuROM copy protection. If | you | > | haven't already, visit you motherboard manufacturer as well as | > | www.highpoint-tech.com to obtain the latest non-beta release versions | and | > | see if it helps the problem." | > | | > | "Each time an executable is "SecuROM'ed" it uses the latest protection | > Sony | > | has available on their site. Basically we build the executable just

as | we | > | would for any project, send it to Sony using a utility they provide,the | > | SecuROM protection is applied, and then the now "SecuROM'ed" EXE issent

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| > | back to us." | > | | > | "That would be my conclusion as there is nothing in our code that does | the | > | copy protection, and as expected the n4server.exe which doesn't use | > SecuROM | > | seems to work fine on these systems. | > | | > | There's really little if any consumer information available on the | SecuROM | > | site: www.securom.com I'll see if our contacts there have any insight | or | > | suggestions." | > | | > | | > | "Ok, good news. Both HighPoint and the Sony SecuROM people are aware

of | > the | > | problem and are working on a solution. At this point it's unclear ifit | > | will be a HighPoint driver fix or a SecuROM fix, but I'll keep you | posted | > as | > | to what they are able to find out. | > | | > | Until then, you might want to try the older 1.0.3 drivers as thesehave | > | proven successful for some users. HighPoint recommends that you not | > connect | > | any CDROM drives to the RAID controller, and instead use the | motherboard's | > | standard ATA controller. Additionally if you're currently not usingthe | > | RAID functionality for your hard drives, you might to temporarilyswitch

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| > | them over to the standard ATA controller as well." | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | > | > --- | > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. | > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | > Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001 | > | > | |

--- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001

Do you have Raid on that mobo? I saw a post above that indicated there were some issues with the patch and highpoint controllers which is the controller Abit uses. The fix is to move your hard drives and CDroms onto the non Highpoint controller. Hope you don't have a Raid-0 going on! -Tim "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UYnA7.145273$[email hidden]...

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> Yea one "F"in mess! Since you stated many important comments > & questions I'll re: between ur re: > > "REDLINE426" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ZDgA7.13206$[email hidden]... > | Holy Moly Thom, I don't know where to start on this. > | > | I downloaded the patch from the ftp2.sierra.com site with an FTP client. > | Even though it did time out during the download and I had to go back in > the > | morning to finish, (they have resume on in the site, :-) I like ftp > | clients). > | Ya can't get on this morning, "Too Many Anonymous User's Logged On" > suggest > | a re-download of the patch? > > Red are you telling me to re-download form anothe ftp sight just I > have a corrupted 1/.3 patch? "makes sense!" > > | Was hesitant about patching after reading about some of these posts. But > | everything went sweet with only the warning about "Third Party Add Ons". > | Even though I do have a graphic add-on for the gauges, no problems here. > | Sheeeit ! I haven't even read the readme yet, Just tested it out in one > race > | and didn't see any great frame rate increase. :(( > > One of the thing that Pees Me off is that I always back up my old > version first but I have been so immeresed in my music that I just > didnt think.. stupid Arse me! phew > > | You didn't mention what OS you were running, Win98??? also what > | motherboard/chipset do you have? > | What manufacture of CD-ROM do you have? > | I don kno, all I can say is sounds like a video driver problem to me,

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> | you re-run the "Configure 3D Graphics" again? > > Sorry! Windows 98SE, mobo Abit SA6R, CDRom just an old > Mitsumi Cd-Rom 40xspeed nothing new, Do you mean the 3D > Configure within Nascar 4 if I did it over 20 times! :) If you are > talking about re-installing drivers my OS, no I didnt > > | Virus? Trojan? I see in header/message info you are using OE 5.5, there

is > a > | new security patch that came out for all version of Internet Explorer on > | Oct. 10th. suggest upgrading to IE 6.0 & OE 6.0 and putting everythingon

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> | "High Restrictions". > | 8 new virus's have come out since October 1st. > > I run OE 5.1 not 5.5. but what would this have to do with N4 not > running with the new 1.3 patch? btw: I did not know that 6.0 was > out? Viruses etc well I use AVG6.0 Anit-Virus & upgrade about > twice a week, if not more.. > > | Oh well that's about it for me Thom, Cheer up thou, Did you see the

500GP

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> | from Phillips Island? Great race wasn't it. > | The F1 Suzuka race was pretty good, or did all the F1 bashers sleep > through > | it?.........he he LOL > > I have been on a "min-sabbatical" from racing with my music > thing so I missed it! Really getting into the jazz genre now but > also I've been re-studying my music theory, notation etc from > almost scratch but I flew thru most of the bsics quickly :) > > | Hey I like your monitor, I'm bummed, my 19" Sony is acting up and may

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> | to go in for warranty. :((((( > | I had to go out and buy some High Powered read'in glasses to see this > little > | but sweet Dell Trinitron 15" monitor in 1024x768. > > I just love my 22" Viewsonic! I am selling my 19"er on eBay > right now! I always run 1600x1200.. :) > > | Last tip? 10 hours? I think it is time to "A:\format c:" and reinstall > | everything? naaa just kidding, but 10hrs??? > > lol.. I run Three 30gig HDs & all my games are the D: Drive :) > music & photography on E: ...lol > > | Good Luck, I gotta get off to D.I.S. > > Thanx I need it! phew.. Cheers Thom_j. > > | -- > | R.I.P. - William Joseph Dunlop OBE MBE 2/25/52 - 7/2/2000 > | > | http://www.roadracers.uk.com/legend.htm > | > | > | > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001 > >

No, actually they blew it at HP....... -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Thom j. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FysA7.146275$[email hidden]... > Thanx a lot for the help & info Cliff! > I was going thru my system info and hardware profile to find this > RAID thing and the HTP370 Raid controllers stuff. phew! I have > seen in somewhere but I just can not re-locate it again!! & if I do > how do you change this so called drivers tp the 1.03 ones? > What a mess just for an "F"in' patch! Sorry Eric but somebody > blew it big time at Papy this time!! Damm!! Now, What do I do > once I find this RAID driver junk? Tia.. Thom_j. > > "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > | Certain motherboards have that RAID controller on board. > | > | Obviously I do not know if yours does, but it was just something that > seems > | to be causing most of the problems > | > | > | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | news:65oA7.145287$[email hidden]... > | > Sorry Cliff but I am at a loss? I have no Sony equipment & nothing > | > to do with RAID{or I do not think I do?}.. I am runing the Mitsumi > | > CD-Rom FX3205 !B drivers & I run an Asus GF2GTS'Pro 64mgs > | > of ram!! Please detail your reply in regards to my PC system & this > | > SecuROM, etc..! Tia.. Thom_j. > | > > | > "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | > news:3bd1b0b4$[email hidden]... > | > | Thom, seems that Sony is using a newer version of SecuRom and this is > | > | causing some problems. Here are the messages that Eric has posted and > | the > | > | one about updating your RAID drivers may help you... it also explains > | why > | > | this is happening to some people > | > | > | > | These are from Eric > | > | > | > | "How many of you with this problem have HTP370 Raid controllers, > either > | > | on-board or as a PCI add-on? There seems that certain HTP370 > | driver/bios > | > | combinations are having problems with the SecuROM copy protection. If > | you > | > | haven't already, visit you motherboard manufacturer as well as > | > | www.highpoint-tech.com to obtain the latest non-beta release versions > | and > | > | see if it helps the problem." > | > | > | > | "Each time an executable is "SecuROM'ed" it uses the latest protection > | > Sony > | > | has available on their site. Basically we build the executable just > as > | we > | > | would for any project, send it to Sony using a utility they provide, > the > | > | SecuROM protection is applied, and then the now "SecuROM'ed" EXE is > sent > | > | back to us." > | > | > | > | "That would be my conclusion as there is nothing in our code that does > | the > | > | copy protection, and as expected the n4server.exe which doesn't use > | > SecuROM > | > | seems to work fine on these systems. > | > | > | > | There's really little if any consumer information available on the > | SecuROM > | > | site: www.securom.com I'll see if our contacts there have any insight > | or > | > | suggestions." > | > | > | > | > | > | "Ok, good news. Both HighPoint and the Sony SecuROM people are aware > of > | > the > | > | problem and are working on a solution. At this point it's unclear if > it > | > | will be a HighPoint driver fix or a SecuROM fix, but I'll keep you > | posted > | > as > | > | to what they are able to find out. > | > | > | > | Until then, you might want to try the older 1.0.3 drivers as these > have > | > | proven successful for some users. HighPoint recommends that you not > | > connect > | > | any CDROM drives to the RAID controller, and instead use the > | motherboard's > | > | standard ATA controller. Additionally if you're currently not using > the > | > | RAID functionality for your hard drives, you might to temporarily > switch > | > | them over to the standard ATA controller as well." > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > > | > > | > --- > | > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > | > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > | > Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001 > | > > | > > | > | > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/2001 > >