RT - physics question

Do Mini coopers push that much for real? To quote a NASCAR saying "it pushes worse than a dump truck" The really tight corners are PITA because I can't get the back end to step out even with the E brake. I always end up going up the hill and into the trees on the "left turn" . I'm surprised my co driver will even get in the car anymore. :) MadDAWG

Keep your accelerator planted and push the brake pedal at the same time- a cure for most all understeer problems :). -Gregor MadDAWG wrote:

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> > Do Mini coopers push that much for real? To quote a NASCAR saying "it pushes > worse than a dump truck" The really tight corners are PITA because I can't > get the back end to step out even with the E brake. I always end up going up > the hill and into the trees on the "left turn" . I'm surprised my co driver > will even get in the car anymore. :) > > MadDAWG

On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:31:39 +0200, Gregor Veble <[email hidden]> wrote: >Keep your accelerator planted and push the brake pedal at the same time- >a cure for most all understeer problems :). Lol 2 seconds before reading this post I posted about the same problem.. thx, I'll try :) Andre

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> >-Gregor > >MadDAWG wrote: >> >> Do Mini coopers push that much for real? To quote a NASCAR saying "it pushes >> worse than a dump truck" The really tight corners are PITA because I can't >> get the back end to step out even with the E brake. I always end up going up >> the hill and into the trees on the "left turn" . I'm surprised my co driver >> will even get in the car anymore. :) >> >> MadDAWG

> Do Mini coopers push that much for real? Nope. A good way to provoke oversteer in a Mini is to either lift sharply, or dip the clutch. The back will come round quicker than you can straighten up the wheel with the latter. Andy (who went darting across the road and onto the pavement on the other side once after dipping the clutch mid-corner) -- PC-Based Multimedia System http://www.andylaurence.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pcbmms NB: Spamtrap - my name @yahoo.co.uk

"Keep your accelerator planted and push the brake pedal at the same time- a cure for most all understeer problems :) " what if your using joystick like me ;o) Bluemooney

Also, begin your turn with the wheel just an instant before hitting the brake. The back end will come around easily then. David G Fisher "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:31:39 +0200, Gregor Veble > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Keep your accelerator planted and push the brake pedal at the same time- > >a cure for most all understeer problems :). > > Lol 2 seconds before reading this post I posted about the same > problem.. thx, I'll try :) > > Andre > > > > >-Gregor > > > >MadDAWG wrote: > >> > >> Do Mini coopers push that much for real? To quote a NASCAR saying "it

pushes > >> worse than a dump truck" The really tight corners are PITA because Ican't > >> get the back end to step out even with the E brake. I always end upgoing up > >> the hill and into the trees on the "left turn" . I'm surprised my codriver > >> will even get in the car anymore. :) > >> > >> MadDAWG >

2 WD cars rulezzZZZzz ;o) Gregor Veble wrote:

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> Keep your accelerator planted and push the brake pedal at the same time- > a cure for most all understeer problems :). > > -Gregor > > MadDAWG wrote: > > > > Do Mini coopers push that much for real? To quote a NASCAR saying "it pushes > > worse than a dump truck" The really tight corners are PITA because I can't > > get the back end to step out even with the E brake. I always end up going up > > the hill and into the trees on the "left turn" . I'm surprised my co driver > > will even get in the car anymore. :) > > > > MadDAWG

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That's why real cars don't use a joystick. They are not aeroplanes. Marc. "Nigel Pengelly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Keep your accelerator planted and push the brake pedal at the same time- > a cure for most all understeer problems :) " > > what if your using joystick like me ;o) > Bluemooney > > >

On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:52:31 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Also, begin your turn with the wheel just an instant before hitting the >brake. The back end will come around easily then. > >David G Fisher Yep, these techniques work perfect in RT! The 2 sharp corners was where I was losing most of my time.. tried it yesterday and dropped from 2:39 to 2:31 on the second run :) Now where the hell am I supposed to find the other 5 seconds?? Great fun though. Andre

The fully executed proper technique to get front wheel race cars to "point" must include coordinated split second movement of both the left and right foot on the brake and gas respectively (10% brake and lift 10% gas - or so). When you are good at this, you will resemble a prima' ballerina and you'll dance on the pedals of the mini-Cooper as if your feet were the wings of a butterfly! Watch the foot work of the pros! They could put a FWD rally car into a 90 deg - left - through the knothole of a tree at 90 mph without even scratching the sides! These - are the best drivers in the world - no doubts about that! Too bad we can't get more of them into F1? Can you imagine their laughter when the crew chief tried to show them the traction control, launch control electronics! .....ROFLMAO....!!!!! How cool would F1 racing be if they returned the car specs back to 1967 (maintaining today's safety specs)! Oh my God. I'd never miss a single race! Tom "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bd42dcf$[email hidden]... > Do Mini coopers push that much for real? To quote a NASCAR saying "itpushes > worse than a dump truck" The really tight corners are PITA because Ican't > get the back end to step out even with the E brake. I always end up goingup > the hill and into the trees on the "left turn" . I'm surprised my codriver > will even get in the car anymore. :) > > > MadDAWG > >

> Too bad we can't get more of them into F1? Can you imagine their laughter > when the crew chief tried to show them the traction control, launchcontrol > electronics! .....ROFLMAO....!!!!! How cool would F1 racing be if they > returned the car specs back to 1967 (maintaining today's safety specs)!Oh > my God. I'd never miss a single race! They have launch/traction control and *lots* of electronics in rallying now. Andy -- PC-Based Multimedia System http://www.andylaurence.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pcbmms NB: Spamtrap - my name @yahoo.co.uk

To be fair.. in RT - the Mini and it's physics, dont reflect reality much. Centre of gravity is miles too low and the perfornace of the car is way to high. 0-100km/h (60mph) in less thabn 8 second?? On *gravel*??) A Mini do generally push pretty bad, but there are ways to make to oversteer or more loose... Sadly none of these work any good in RT. -- ed_ "MadDAWG" wrote: > Do Mini coopers push that much for real?