OT: V5 5500 & Win XP Probs? Geforce 3 instead?

I'm waiting for the following components to arrive tomorrow: AMD 1600+ (1.4 Ghz) 512 Corsair DDR 2100 Ram 60 Gb IBM HD (7200 rpm) Santa Cruz Sound Card Lite On 16x DVD/CD-Rom Enlight 7237Z Case (340W PS) ECS K7S5A Mobo (Reportedly stable, XP compatible and cheap) Windows XP Home Ed. I still haven't settled on a video card, so here are my questions: 1) I have an old rig with V5 5500 that I'd like to use in the new system except that I've heard there is no glide or open gl drivers for Win XP. Anyone using V5 5500 with XP? What's the scoop? 2) I'm considering the Gainforce Cardexpert GF3 Golden Sample as a replacement for my V5. Any opinions by users of this card or any GF3? I mainly play F1 2001, GPL, Falcon 4 and will pick up Ghost Recon and a few shooters. I still think the V5 kicks ass in sims (even compared to GF3) and I just don't want to give it up without a fight. TIA -- Joe Marques

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> I'm waiting for the following components to arrive tomorrow: > > AMD 1600+ (1.4 Ghz) > 512 Corsair DDR 2100 Ram > 60 Gb IBM HD (7200 rpm) > Santa Cruz Sound Card > Lite On 16x DVD/CD-Rom > Enlight 7237Z Case (340W PS) > ECS K7S5A Mobo (Reportedly stable, XP compatible and cheap) > Windows XP Home Ed. > > I still haven't settled on a video card, so here are my questions: > > 1) I have an old rig with V5 5500 that I'd like to use in the new > system except that I've heard there is no glide or open gl drivers for > Win XP. Anyone using V5 5500 with XP? What's the scoop? > > 2) I'm considering the Gainforce Cardexpert GF3 Golden Sample as a > replacement for my V5. Any opinions by users of this card or any GF3? > > I mainly play F1 2001, GPL, Falcon 4 and will pick up Ghost Recon and a > few shooters. I still think the V5 kicks ass in sims (even compared to > GF3) and I just don't want to give it up without a fight. > > TIA > -- > Joe Marques

Hang in there, I follow your thoughts about the V5, still using it with great pleasure, albeit on a WinMe based platform (epox 8kha+, 1700+ showing 1900+ ;-)). Nothing comes close to the v5 in the sims/games I'm into yet. the gf3 people can run the q3/3dmark2001-game as long as they want. I spend my time having fun instead, playing gpl with fluid graphics/2xAA. The scoop? The worst thing I heard was that m$ had everything they needed to ship xp with builtin support for v5 but nVidia stopped it. have no idea where i got it from, probably some x3dfx/v5-forum. good news is that people are developing installation tools to get the 11/2000-versions of the drivers working in xp. I haven't tried the tools myself - I will never use xp because m$ have pulled the licensing/registering string too far. I would rather give win2000 a chance as a gaming platform if you need multi-cpu support or if you're buying the "stable" bit of the marketing crap. when did your win98se/winme crash last time? (sad to hear that you have already spent your money on xp but that's not my business). more info on the v5/xp-issue here (forum): http://pub43.ezboard.com/bx3dfx Good luck, (I would wait a couple of months instead of wopping out cash for the gf3 (because of the nvidia "handling" of 3dfx customers/nv25 coming out this winter?), and let the ati8500 get a chance (drivers could be an issue still at ati, which would be a tragedy)). -- JoHS

I wish that I could tell you where to get them, but I've been told that there _are_ working Glide drivers for XP. (They work with a V5). So, there's no need to jump to a GF3, if you really want to stick with the V5. Hopefully, someone with more specific knowledge of these drivers will respond here in a day or two. Good Luck. Joe Marques wrote:

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> I'm waiting for the following components to arrive tomorrow: > > AMD 1600+ (1.4 Ghz) > 512 Corsair DDR 2100 Ram > 60 Gb IBM HD (7200 rpm) > Santa Cruz Sound Card > Lite On 16x DVD/CD-Rom > Enlight 7237Z Case (340W PS) > ECS K7S5A Mobo (Reportedly stable, XP compatible and cheap) > Windows XP Home Ed. > > I still haven't settled on a video card, so here are my questions: > > 1) I have an old rig with V5 5500 that I'd like to use in the new system > except that I've heard there is no glide or open gl drivers for Win XP. > Anyone using V5 5500 with XP? What's the scoop? > > 2) I'm considering the Gainforce Cardexpert GF3 Golden Sample as a > replacement for my V5. Any opinions by users of this card or any GF3? > > I mainly play F1 2001, GPL, Falcon 4 and will pick up Ghost Recon and a few > shooters. I still think the V5 kicks ass in sims (even compared to GF3) and > I just don't want to give it up without a fight. > > TIA > -- > Joe Marques

-- Bert

On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 20:51:53 -0500, BRH <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I wish that I could tell you where to get them, but I've been told that there >_are_ working Glide drivers for XP. (They work with a V5). So, there's no need >to jump to a GF3, if you really want to stick with the V5. > >Hopefully, someone with more specific knowledge of these drivers will respond >here in a day or two. > >Good Luck.

You can get XP drivers for most of the 3DFX cards here. V3/4/5 are down near the bottom. www.falconfly.de/3dfx.htm

Thanks to all for the help. I found working drivers that enable D3D and Glide. So far no problems running NHL 2002 and F1 2001. I'm still installing games so I'm not out of the woods yet. The V5 does pretty well with the AMD 1600+. I do think it's now the bottleneck since my fps are still not great in F1. -- Joe Marques "Joe Marques" <Joe [email hidden]> wrote in message news:J7%C7.33100$[email hidden]... > I'm waiting for the following components to arrive tomorrow: > > AMD 1600+ (1.4 Ghz) > 512 Corsair DDR 2100 Ram > 60 Gb IBM HD (7200 rpm) > Santa Cruz Sound Card > Lite On 16x DVD/CD-Rom > Enlight 7237Z Case (340W PS) > ECS K7S5A Mobo (Reportedly stable, XP compatible and cheap) > Windows XP Home Ed. > > I still haven't settled on a video card, so here are my questions: > > 1) I have an old rig with V5 5500 that I'd like to use in the new system > except that I've heard there is no glide or open gl drivers for Win XP. > Anyone using V5 5500 with XP? What's the scoop? > > 2) I'm considering the Gainforce Cardexpert GF3 Golden Sample as a > replacement for my V5. Any opinions by users of this card or any GF3? > > I mainly play F1 2001, GPL, Falcon 4 and will pick up Ghost Recon and a few > shooters. I still think the V5 kicks ass in sims (even compared to GF3) and > I just don't want to give it up without a fight. > > TIA > -- > Joe Marques > > > >

Joe, could you provide a download link for the working XP drivers? thanks, Joachim "Joe Marques" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:DPqD7.43738$[email hidden]...

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> Thanks to all for the help. I found working drivers that enable D3D and > Glide. So far no problems running NHL 2002 and F1 2001. I'm still > installing games so I'm not out of the woods yet. The V5 does pretty well > with the AMD 1600+. I do think it's now the bottleneck since my fps are > still not great in F1. > > -- > Joe Marques > > "Joe Marques" <Joe [email hidden]> wrote in message > news:J7%C7.33100$[email hidden]... > > I'm waiting for the following components to arrive tomorrow: > > > > AMD 1600+ (1.4 Ghz) > > 512 Corsair DDR 2100 Ram > > 60 Gb IBM HD (7200 rpm) > > Santa Cruz Sound Card > > Lite On 16x DVD/CD-Rom > > Enlight 7237Z Case (340W PS) > > ECS K7S5A Mobo (Reportedly stable, XP compatible and cheap) > > Windows XP Home Ed. > > > > I still haven't settled on a video card, so here are my questions: > > > > 1) I have an old rig with V5 5500 that I'd like to use in the new system > > except that I've heard there is no glide or open gl drivers for Win XP. > > Anyone using V5 5500 with XP? What's the scoop? > > > > 2) I'm considering the Gainforce Cardexpert GF3 Golden Sample as a > > replacement for my V5. Any opinions by users of this card or any GF3? > > > > I mainly play F1 2001, GPL, Falcon 4 and will pick up Ghost Recon and a > few > > shooters. I still think the V5 kicks ass in sims (even compared to GF3) > and > > I just don't want to give it up without a fight. > > > > TIA > > -- > > Joe Marques > > > > > > > > > >

Here you go Joachim: http://www.voodoofiles.com/type.asp?cat_id=0 -- Joe Marques "Joachim B�ddeker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9rmr1d$uq2md$[email hidden]... > Joe, > > could you provide a download link for the working XP drivers? > > thanks, > > Joachim > > "Joe Marques" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:DPqD7.43738$[email hidden]... > > Thanks to all for the help. I found working drivers that enable D3D and > > Glide. So far no problems running NHL 2002 and F1 2001. I'm still > > installing games so I'm not out of the woods yet. The V5 does pretty well > > with the AMD 1600+. I do think it's now the bottleneck since my fps are > > still not great in F1. > > > > -- > > Joe Marques > > > > "Joe Marques" <Joe [email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:J7%C7.33100$[email hidden]... > > > I'm waiting for the following components to arrive tomorrow: > > > > > > AMD 1600+ (1.4 Ghz) > > > 512 Corsair DDR 2100 Ram > > > 60 Gb IBM HD (7200 rpm) > > > Santa Cruz Sound Card > > > Lite On 16x DVD/CD-Rom > > > Enlight 7237Z Case (340W PS) > > > ECS K7S5A Mobo (Reportedly stable, XP compatible and cheap) > > > Windows XP Home Ed. > > > > > > I still haven't settled on a video card, so here are my questions: > > > > > > 1) I have an old rig with V5 5500 that I'd like to use in the new system > > > except that I've heard there is no glide or open gl drivers for Win XP. > > > Anyone using V5 5500 with XP? What's the scoop? > > > > > > 2) I'm considering the Gainforce Cardexpert GF3 Golden Sample as a > > > replacement for my V5. Any opinions by users of this card or any GF3? > > > > > > I mainly play F1 2001, GPL, Falcon 4 and will pick up Ghost Recon and a > > few > > > shooters. I still think the V5 kicks ass in sims (even compared to GF3) > > and > > > I just don't want to give it up without a fight. > > > > > > TIA > > > -- > > > Joe Marques > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks. Joachim. "Joe Marques" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:cPJD7.47406$[email hidden]... > Here you go Joachim: > > http://www.voodoofiles.com/type.asp?cat_id=0

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> "Joe Marques" <Joe [email hidden]> wrote in > news:J7%C7.33100$[email hidden]: > > > I'm waiting for the following components to arrive tomorrow: > > > > AMD 1600+ (1.4 Ghz) > > 512 Corsair DDR 2100 Ram > > 60 Gb IBM HD (7200 rpm) > > Santa Cruz Sound Card > > Lite On 16x DVD/CD-Rom > > Enlight 7237Z Case (340W PS) > > ECS K7S5A Mobo (Reportedly stable, XP compatible and cheap) > > Windows XP Home Ed. > > > > I still haven't settled on a video card, so here are my questions: > > > > 1) I have an old rig with V5 5500 that I'd like to use in the new > > system except that I've heard there is no glide or open gl drivers for > > Win XP. Anyone using V5 5500 with XP? What's the scoop? > > > > 2) I'm considering the Gainforce Cardexpert GF3 Golden Sample as a > > replacement for my V5. Any opinions by users of this card or any GF3? > > > > I mainly play F1 2001, GPL, Falcon 4 and will pick up Ghost Recon and a > > few shooters. I still think the V5 kicks ass in sims (even compared to > > GF3) and I just don't want to give it up without a fight. > > > > TIA > > -- > > Joe Marques > > Hang in there, I follow your thoughts about the V5, still using it with > great pleasure, albeit on a WinMe based platform (epox 8kha+, 1700+ showing > 1900+ ;-)). Nothing comes close to the v5 in the sims/games I'm into yet. > the gf3 people can run the q3/3dmark2001-game as long as they want. I spend > my time having fun instead, playing gpl with fluid graphics/2xAA.

Sorry to add up on an old post. I build a similar system this weekend. Epox 8kha+, xp 1600, 512 MB DDR ram, SB Live Player 1024 and the good old V5. Fresh install of WinME And right now I'm really disappointed. I hardly get any increase in framerates at all. In GPL at testing at Monaco I don't get more than 30 fps at 1280x1024 2xfsaa, with the details slider at 50 %. In N4 I get around 30-35 fps at Lowe's in testing at 1024x768 2xfsaa. I really expected a bigger jump from my old Cel566@850. I saw another post where the poster claimed 40 fps at 1600x1200 no fsaa, but I ended up with around 20. There is probably someting very wrong somewhere... -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

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> > "Jo H�var Slangsvold" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > "Joe Marques" <Joe [email hidden]> wrote in > > news:J7%C7.33100$[email hidden]: > > > > > I'm waiting for the following components to arrive tomorrow: > > > > > > AMD 1600+ (1.4 Ghz) > > > 512 Corsair DDR 2100 Ram > > > 60 Gb IBM HD (7200 rpm) > > > Santa Cruz Sound Card > > > Lite On 16x DVD/CD-Rom > > > Enlight 7237Z Case (340W PS) > > > ECS K7S5A Mobo (Reportedly stable, XP compatible and cheap) > > > Windows XP Home Ed. > > > > > > I still haven't settled on a video card, so here are my questions: > > > > > > 1) I have an old rig with V5 5500 that I'd like to use in the new > > > system except that I've heard there is no glide or open gl drivers for > > > Win XP. Anyone using V5 5500 with XP? What's the scoop? > > > > > > 2) I'm considering the Gainforce Cardexpert GF3 Golden Sample as a > > > replacement for my V5. Any opinions by users of this card or any GF3? > > > > > > I mainly play F1 2001, GPL, Falcon 4 and will pick up Ghost Recon and a > > > few shooters. I still think the V5 kicks ass in sims (even compared to > > > GF3) and I just don't want to give it up without a fight. > > > > > > TIA > > > -- > > > Joe Marques > > > > Hang in there, I follow your thoughts about the V5, still using it with > > great pleasure, albeit on a WinMe based platform (epox 8kha+, 1700+ showing > > 1900+ ;-)). Nothing comes close to the v5 in the sims/games I'm into yet. > > the gf3 people can run the q3/3dmark2001-game as long as they want. I spend > > my time having fun instead, playing gpl with fluid graphics/2xAA. > > Sorry to add up on an old post. > > I build a similar system this weekend. Epox 8kha+, xp 1600, 512 MB DDR > ram, SB Live Player 1024 and the good old V5. Fresh install of WinME > > And right now I'm really disappointed. I hardly get any increase in > framerates at all. In GPL at testing at Monaco I don't get more than > 30 fps at 1280x1024 2xfsaa, with the details slider at 50 %. In N4 I > get around 30-35 fps at Lowe's in testing at 1024x768 2xfsaa. I really > expected a bigger jump from my old Cel566@850. > > I saw another post where the poster claimed 40 fps at 1600x1200 no > fsaa, but I ended up with around 20. > > There is probably someting very wrong somewhere...

Don't listen to JoHS though, he has no clue what he's talking about as usual....:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

It's your video card. I ditched the V5 shortly after the system upgrade because I was unimpressed with the performance. I bought a GF3 Ti 500 and the system smokes. I ran the N4 demo at over 80 fps with 2xFSAA. F1 2001 40+ fps with a full field of cars at Monaco (35+ at start of race mid pack). -- Joe Marques "Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Jo H�var Slangsvold" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > "Joe Marques" <Joe [email hidden]> wrote in > > news:J7%C7.33100$[email hidden]: > > > > > I'm waiting for the following components to arrive tomorrow: > > > > > > AMD 1600+ (1.4 Ghz) > > > 512 Corsair DDR 2100 Ram > > > 60 Gb IBM HD (7200 rpm) > > > Santa Cruz Sound Card > > > Lite On 16x DVD/CD-Rom > > > Enlight 7237Z Case (340W PS) > > > ECS K7S5A Mobo (Reportedly stable, XP compatible and cheap) > > > Windows XP Home Ed. > > > > > > I still haven't settled on a video card, so here are my questions: > > > > > > 1) I have an old rig with V5 5500 that I'd like to use in the new > > > system except that I've heard there is no glide or open gl drivers for > > > Win XP. Anyone using V5 5500 with XP? What's the scoop? > > > > > > 2) I'm considering the Gainforce Cardexpert GF3 Golden Sample as a > > > replacement for my V5. Any opinions by users of this card or any GF3? > > > > > > I mainly play F1 2001, GPL, Falcon 4 and will pick up Ghost Recon and a > > > few shooters. I still think the V5 kicks ass in sims (even compared to > > > GF3) and I just don't want to give it up without a fight. > > > > > > TIA > > > -- > > > Joe Marques > > > > Hang in there, I follow your thoughts about the V5, still using it with > > great pleasure, albeit on a WinMe based platform (epox 8kha+, 1700+ showing > > 1900+ ;-)). Nothing comes close to the v5 in the sims/games I'm into yet. > > the gf3 people can run the q3/3dmark2001-game as long as they want. I spend > > my time having fun instead, playing gpl with fluid graphics/2xAA. > > Sorry to add up on an old post. > > I build a similar system this weekend. Epox 8kha+, xp 1600, 512 MB DDR > ram, SB Live Player 1024 and the good old V5. Fresh install of WinME > > And right now I'm really disappointed. I hardly get any increase in > framerates at all. In GPL at testing at Monaco I don't get more than > 30 fps at 1280x1024 2xfsaa, with the details slider at 50 %. In N4 I > get around 30-35 fps at Lowe's in testing at 1024x768 2xfsaa. I really > expected a bigger jump from my old Cel566@850. > > I saw another post where the poster claimed 40 fps at 1600x1200 no > fsaa, but I ended up with around 20. > > There is probably someting very wrong somewhere... > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove .spam when replying

I just upgraded my v5 to a gef and I love it. Newegg sells the gainward gf3 for $239. Windows xp does not support voodoo cards. There is no glide and on opengl period. You can run gpl in d3d but it does not look real good and it is slower. My gf3 can go 1600x1200 at a constant 36fps. "Joe Marques" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Pc0I7.116727$[email hidden]... > It's your video card. I ditched the V5 shortly after the system upgrade > because I was unimpressed with the performance. I bought a GF3 Ti 500 and > the system smokes. I ran the N4 demo at over 80 fps with 2xFSAA. F1 2001 > 40+ fps with a full field of cars at Monaco (35+ at start of race midpack).

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> > -- > Joe Marques > > > "Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "Jo H�var Slangsvold" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > "Joe Marques" <Joe [email hidden]> wrote in > > > news:J7%C7.33100$[email hidden]: > > > > > > > I'm waiting for the following components to arrive tomorrow: > > > > > > > > AMD 1600+ (1.4 Ghz) > > > > 512 Corsair DDR 2100 Ram > > > > 60 Gb IBM HD (7200 rpm) > > > > Santa Cruz Sound Card > > > > Lite On 16x DVD/CD-Rom > > > > Enlight 7237Z Case (340W PS) > > > > ECS K7S5A Mobo (Reportedly stable, XP compatible and cheap) > > > > Windows XP Home Ed. > > > > > > > > I still haven't settled on a video card, so here are my questions: > > > > > > > > 1) I have an old rig with V5 5500 that I'd like to use in the new > > > > system except that I've heard there is no glide or open gl drivers

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> > > great pleasure, albeit on a WinMe based platform (epox 8kha+, 1700+ > showing > > > 1900+ ;-)). Nothing comes close to the v5 in the sims/games I'm into > yet. > > > the gf3 people can run the q3/3dmark2001-game as long as they want. I > spend > > > my time having fun instead, playing gpl with fluid graphics/2xAA. > > > > Sorry to add up on an old post. > > > > I build a similar system this weekend. Epox 8kha+, xp 1600, 512 MB DDR > > ram, SB Live Player 1024 and the good old V5. Fresh install of WinME > > > > And right now I'm really disappointed. I hardly get any increase in > > framerates at all. In GPL at testing at Monaco I don't get more than > > 30 fps at 1280x1024 2xfsaa, with the details slider at 50 %. In N4 I > > get around 30-35 fps at Lowe's in testing at 1024x768 2xfsaa. I really > > expected a bigger jump from my old Cel566@850. > > > > I saw another post where the poster claimed 40 fps at 1600x1200 no > > fsaa, but I ended up with around 20. > > > > There is probably someting very wrong somewhere... > > > > -- > > Olav K. Malmin > > remove .spam when replying > >