Rusty left-foot brakes!

Just tuned on to the NASCAR Phoenix race today while flipping channels. Showed a closeup of Rusty Wallace's feet and how he uses the pedals-what amazed me is that he uses his left foot to brake! I wonder how many other NASCAR drivers do that. I know it has been a controversy here-in N4 I certainly left-foot brake even tho in my 'real' car I use my right. Too bad the various networks don't give us more of this kind of 'inside' info and instead give us endless streams of meaningless platitudes... John DiFool

Interesting, because he also has the qualifying records at the series' only two road courses. Perhaps there's a connection? "John DiFool" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Just tuned on to the NASCAR Phoenix race today > while flipping channels. Showed a closeup of Rusty > Wallace's feet and how he uses the pedals-what > amazed me is that he uses his left foot to brake! > I wonder how many other NASCAR drivers do that. > I know it has been a controversy here-in N4 I certainly > left-foot brake even tho in my 'real' car I use my right. > Too bad the various networks don't give us more of this > kind of 'inside' info and instead give us endless streams > of meaningless platitudes... > > John DiFool > >

From the foot-cam's I've seen, most Nascar drivers left foot brake. "John DiFool" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Just tuned on to the NASCAR Phoenix race today > while flipping channels. Showed a closeup of Rusty > Wallace's feet and how he uses the pedals-what > amazed me is that he uses his left foot to brake! > I wonder how many other NASCAR drivers do that. > I know it has been a controversy here-in N4 I certainly > left-foot brake even tho in my 'real' car I use my right. > Too bad the various networks don't give us more of this > kind of 'inside' info and instead give us endless streams > of meaningless platitudes... > > John DiFool > >

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> Just tuned on to the NASCAR Phoenix race today >while flipping channels. Showed a closeup of Rusty >Wallace's feet and how he uses the pedals-what >amazed me is that he uses his left foot to brake! > I wonder how many other NASCAR drivers do that. >I know it has been a controversy here-in N4 I certainly >left-foot brake even tho in my 'real' car I use my right. >Too bad the various networks don't give us more of this >kind of 'inside' info and instead give us endless streams >of meaningless platitudes... > > John DiFool

WOW!!! And I masturbate!!! Rusty and I must have a lot in common!!!

"TRUSRS85" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > WOW!!! And I masturbate!!! While thinking of CART sims?

Better give Roger Penske a call right now; I'm sure he couldn't pass THAT up! Good luck in WC, ;-) SB "TRUSRS85" <[email hidden]> wrote... > WOW!!! And I masturbate!!! Rusty and I must have a lot in common!!!

On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 20:12:24 GMT, John DiFool <[email hidden]> wrote: > Just tuned on to the NASCAR Phoenix race today >while flipping channels. Showed a closeup of Rusty >Wallace's feet and how he uses the pedals-what >amazed me is that he uses his left foot to brake! My guess is that every WC driver left foot brakes, with the exception of road circuits. I grew up left footed braking in my street car, and it's saved me from many accidents from the quicker reaction time to the brake pedal. > I wonder how many other NASCAR drivers do that. >I know it has been a controversy here-in N4 I certainly >left-foot brake even tho in my 'real' car I use my right. >Too bad the various networks don't give us more of this >kind of 'inside' info and instead give us endless streams >of meaningless platitudes... Yeah...if we have to go to the NBC Virtual Garage one time I'm gonna puick.

>Showed a closeup of Rusty >Wallace's feet and how he uses the pedals-what >amazed me is that he uses his left foot to brake! > I wonder how many other NASCAR drivers do that. I think 99.9% of all NASCAR drivers probably left foot brake except for Kevin Harvick. He just uses the car in front of him to slow himself down. :) Larry

"HainesLC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >Showed a closeup of Rusty > >Wallace's feet and how he uses the pedals-what > >amazed me is that he uses his left foot to brake! > > I wonder how many other NASCAR drivers do that. > > I think 99.9% of all NASCAR drivers probably left foot brake except forKevin > Harvick. He just uses the car in front of him to slow himself down. :) > > Larry

Bobby Labonte and a few others right-foot brake. "HainesLC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >Showed a closeup of Rusty > >Wallace's feet and how he uses the pedals-what > >amazed me is that he uses his left foot to brake! > > I wonder how many other NASCAR drivers do that. > > I think 99.9% of all NASCAR drivers probably left foot brake except forKevin > Harvick. He just uses the car in front of him to slow himself down. :) > > Larry

They all use both feet......have for years. -John TRUSRS85 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Just tuned on to the NASCAR Phoenix race today > >while flipping channels. Showed a closeup of Rusty > >Wallace's feet and how he uses the pedals-what > >amazed me is that he uses his left foot to brake! > > I wonder how many other NASCAR drivers do that. > >I know it has been a controversy here-in N4 I certainly > >left-foot brake even tho in my 'real' car I use my right. > >Too bad the various networks don't give us more of this > >kind of 'inside' info and instead give us endless streams > >of meaningless platitudes... > > > > John DiFool > > WOW!!! And I masturbate!!! Rusty and I must have a lot in common!!!

It's fairly common for the road tracks for the WC drivers to pump up the brakes while going down the straights. So while they floor the gas they are tapping the brakes to build up the hydraulic pressure for the hard work at the end of the straight. dave henrie "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> They all use both feet......have for years. > > -John > > > TRUSRS85 <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > Just tuned on to the NASCAR Phoenix race today > > >while flipping channels. Showed a closeup of Rusty > > >Wallace's feet and how he uses the pedals-what > > >amazed me is that he uses his left foot to brake! > > > I wonder how many other NASCAR drivers do that. > > >I know it has been a controversy here-in N4 I certainly > > >left-foot brake even tho in my 'real' car I use my right. > > >Too bad the various networks don't give us more of this > > >kind of 'inside' info and instead give us endless streams > > >of meaningless platitudes... > > > > > > John DiFool > > > > WOW!!! And I masturbate!!! Rusty and I must have a lot in common!!! > >

Yep. It's not really needed mechanically as much as thought though; several have stated it's just a "reassurance" type mind game more than anything, which is understandable; I'd want to make sure I had brakes going into a corner at speed too<G> -John Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:eQ3D7.10708$[email hidden]... > It's fairly common for the road tracks for the WC drivers to pump up the > brakes while going down the straights. So while they floor the gas theyare

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> tapping the brakes to build up the hydraulic pressure for the hard work at > the end of the straight. > dave henrie > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > They all use both feet......have for years. > > > > -John > > > > > > TRUSRS85 <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Just tuned on to the NASCAR Phoenix race today > > > >while flipping channels. Showed a closeup of Rusty > > > >Wallace's feet and how he uses the pedals-what > > > >amazed me is that he uses his left foot to brake! > > > > I wonder how many other NASCAR drivers do that. > > > >I know it has been a controversy here-in N4 I certainly > > > >left-foot brake even tho in my 'real' car I use my right. > > > >Too bad the various networks don't give us more of this > > > >kind of 'inside' info and instead give us endless streams > > > >of meaningless platitudes... > > > > > > > > John DiFool > > > > > > WOW!!! And I masturbate!!! Rusty and I must have a lot in common!!! > > > > > >

>"T. Wortman" <[email hidden]> wrote > My guess is that every WC driver left foot brakes, with the exception > of road circuits. Hmmm, why would you think that WC drivers don't brake with their left foot on road courses? They do :) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Yep, bobby Labonte right foot brakes and probably Kyle Petty as well since he heel toe's his downshifts on road courses. That is a reason why Bobby Labonte gets so good fuel mileage, he is on the gas less compared to left foot brakers. Tony Stewart said he has never right foot braked since he was taught to left foot brake right from the beginning in go-carts and sprint cars. A challenge to a lot of cup and F1 drivers would be to make them double clutch a downshift. I would bet they mess it up. I really hope WSC will have an option to force people to heel toe/double clutch downshifts on older cars during online races. "AJ Tessman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Bobby Labonte and a few others right-foot brake. > > > "HainesLC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > >Showed a closeup of Rusty > > >Wallace's feet and how he uses the pedals-what > > >amazed me is that he uses his left foot to brake! > > > I wonder how many other NASCAR drivers do that. > > > > I think 99.9% of all NASCAR drivers probably left foot brake except for > Kevin > > Harvick. He just uses the car in front of him to slow himself down. :) > > > > Larry > >

Have some mercy on those without high-end/home-built pedals Alan... Sheesh!! ;-) Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "Alan Orton" wrote... > A challenge to a lot of cup and F1 drivers would be to make > them double clutch a downshift. I would bet they mess it up. > > I really hope WSC will have an option to force people to heel > toe/double clutch downshifts on older cars during online races.

I'm one of them, still using a old t2 single axix. :) Although I'm finishing my home made wheel to go with the pedals I made which works great for heel toe. The new actlabs pedals should work and they are affordable, they look pretty nice actually. A TSW wouldn't work for heel toe very well since they are not adjustable - Brake higher then throttle and distance between pedals isn't adjustable. "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Have some mercy on those without high-end/home-built pedals Alan...Sheesh!!

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> ;-) > > Jan. > =--- > "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. > > "Alan Orton" wrote... > > A challenge to a lot of cup and F1 drivers would be to make > > them double clutch a downshift. I would bet they mess it up. > > > > I really hope WSC will have an option to force people to heel > > toe/double clutch downshifts on older cars during online races. > >

In article <NP6D7.376623$[email hidden]>, "Alan Orton" <[email hidden]> writes: >I really hope WSC will have an option to force people to heel toe/double >clutch downshifts on older cars during online races. Well, THAT would suck... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Viper, with manual clutch, forces you to engage the clutch before the gear will change. There is one problem with this. When using the Act-Lab H-pattern shifter, you can put it in any gear you like. Now say you missed the clutch but put it in 1st gear, does the driver have to take it out of gear then push in the clutch then put it in gear OR do they just have to disengage/engage the clutch for 1st to be selected by the sim. I like it when the clutch is used for slipping the clutch only. Trying to force the clutch with gear changes just gets very complicated. Until they have FF shifters that will not allow you to put it in gear without pressing on the clutch, I like the current method. Jason. Alan Orton wrote: > > I really hope WSC will have an option to force people to heel toe/double > clutch downshifts on older cars during online races. > -- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (GPL) http://www.scprc.com - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run Sims) (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

It would be an server option just like force view and forced smoke is in N4. It would be for leagues that want realism of that time period or the league just wants to run that style of racing. It would require more skill to race, but also a lot more fun. Everyone would have different blip sizes and methods of shifting, it would be cool to see. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <NP6D7.376623$[email hidden]>, "AlanOrton"

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> <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I really hope WSC will have an option to force people to heel toe/double > >clutch downshifts on older cars during online races. > > Well, THAT would suck... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

The driver would have to take it out of gear and then put it back into gear with the clutch in. They could add a simple grinding noise if you tried to put it into gear with out a clutch, missed shift or improper rev matching, that would be enough feedback to go by. "Jason Monds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Viper, with manual clutch, forces you to engage the clutch before the > gear will change. There is one problem with this. When using the > Act-Lab H-pattern shifter, you can put it in any gear you like. Now say > you missed the clutch but put it in 1st gear, does the driver have to > take it out of gear then push in the clutch then put it in gear OR do > they just have to disengage/engage the clutch for 1st to be selected by > the sim. > > I like it when the clutch is used for slipping the clutch only. Trying > to force the clutch with gear changes just gets very complicated. Until > they have FF shifters that will not allow you to put it in gear without > pressing on the clutch, I like the current method. > > Jason. > > Alan Orton wrote: > > > > I really hope WSC will have an option to force people to heel toe/double > > clutch downshifts on older cars during online races. > > > > -- > Jason Monds > http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (GPL) > http://www.scprc.com - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run Sims) > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

Possibly. Try Viper first and see how frustrated you get with a manual clutch ;) I use the manual clutch in F1-2001, but it just seemed different in Viper. Maybe I'll do that test again now that F1RC and F1-2001 have my clutch-thumb educated. Jason. Alan Orton wrote:

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> > The driver would have to take it out of gear and then put it back into gear > with the clutch in. They could add a simple grinding noise if you tried to > put it into gear with out a clutch, missed shift or improper rev matching, > that would be enough feedback to go by. > > "Jason Monds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Viper, with manual clutch, forces you to engage the clutch before the > > gear will change. There is one problem with this. When using the > > Act-Lab H-pattern shifter, you can put it in any gear you like. Now say > > you missed the clutch but put it in 1st gear, does the driver have to > > take it out of gear then push in the clutch then put it in gear OR do > > they just have to disengage/engage the clutch for 1st to be selected by > > the sim. > > > > I like it when the clutch is used for slipping the clutch only. Trying > > to force the clutch with gear changes just gets very complicated. Until > > they have FF shifters that will not allow you to put it in gear without > > pressing on the clutch, I like the current method. > > > > Jason. > > > > Alan Orton wrote: > > > > > > I really hope WSC will have an option to force people to heel toe/double > > > clutch downshifts on older cars during online races. > > > > > > > -- > > Jason Monds > > http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (GPL) > > http://www.scprc.com - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run Sims) > > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

-- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (GPL) http://www.scprc.com - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run Sims) (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

Just another way for the 'MAN' to keep us down...If God wanted us to use 3 pedals he would have given us 3 feet :) <<shaddup you smart-alecs>> dave henrie "Alan Orton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kkjD7.380165$[email hidden]... > It would be an server option just like force view and forced smoke is inN4. > It would be for leagues that want realism of that time period or theleague > just wants to run that style of racing. It would require more skill torace,

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> but also a lot more fun. Everyone would have different blip sizes and > methods of shifting, it would be cool to see. > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <NP6D7.376623$[email hidden]>, "Alan > Orton" > > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >I really hope WSC will have an option to force people to heel

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> > >clutch downshifts on older cars during online races. > > > > Well, THAT would suck... > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > GPLRank - under construction... > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > >

On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 01:20:19 -0500, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>>"T. Wortman" <[email hidden]> wrote >> My guess is that every WC driver left foot brakes, with the exception >> of road circuits. > > >Hmmm, why would you think that WC drivers don't brake with their left foot >on road courses?

I think if you review some tapes you'll see that many do pump the brake with the left foot approaching a turn. But then they do the final braking with the right foot. Where else would "heel 'n toe" come from? It's done with the right foot between the brake and gas. At least this is what I've seen from in-car cameras.

>"T. Wortman" <[email hidden]> wrote > I think if you review some tapes you'll see that many do pump the > brake with the left foot approaching a turn. But then they do the > final braking with the right foot. Where else would "heel 'n toe" come > from? It's done with the right foot between the brake and gas. At > least this is what I've seen from in-car cameras. Yeah I saw your point, I was just joking :) Considering they use Jericho-type transmission, there is no need to use the clutch anymore. So you can press both the gas and the brake pedal with the two feet now. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

I have, lots of fun. :) Currently using single axis with a button clutch,hehe. I did hook up my homemade pedals up which has a clutch and split axis for a few laps and it was great. Racing around in a GTS/R with manual clutch was great fun. "Jason Monds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Possibly. Try Viper first and see how frustrated you get with a manual > clutch ;) I use the manual clutch in F1-2001, but it just seemed > different in Viper. Maybe I'll do that test again now that F1RC and > F1-2001 have my clutch-thumb educated. > > Jason. > > Alan Orton wrote: > > > > The driver would have to take it out of gear and then put it back into

gear > > with the clutch in. They could add a simple grinding noise if you triedto > > put it into gear with out a clutch, missed shift or improper revmatching,

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> > that would be enough feedback to go by. > > > > "Jason Monds" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Viper, with manual clutch, forces you to engage the clutch before the > > > gear will change. There is one problem with this. When using the > > > Act-Lab H-pattern shifter, you can put it in any gear you like. Now

say > > > you missed the clutch but put it in 1st gear, does the driver have to > > > take it out of gear then push in the clutch then put it in gear OR do > > > they just have to disengage/engage the clutch for 1st to be selectedby > > > the sim. > > > > > > I like it when the clutch is used for slipping the clutch only.Trying > > > to force the clutch with gear changes just gets very complicated.Until > > > they have FF shifters that will not allow you to put it in gearwithout

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> > > pressing on the clutch, I like the current method. > > > > > > Jason. > > > > > > Alan Orton wrote: > > > > > > > > I really hope WSC will have an option to force people to heel

toe/double

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> > > > clutch downshifts on older cars during online races. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jason Monds > > > http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (GPL) > > > http://www.scprc.com - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run

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> > > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying) > > -- > Jason Monds > http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (GPL) > http://www.scprc.com - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run Sims) > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

Do you guys who built your own pedals have any links to your design or to other sites that would help? I would love to build my own pedals and hook them into my LWFF, but I have no idea what the wiring is like. If I only had a clutch......... Ryan

> My guess is that every WC driver left foot brakes, with the exception > of road circuits. I grew up left footed braking in my street car, and > it's saved me from many accidents from the quicker reaction time to > the brake pedal. I take it you drive an automatic. Bit different in a manual ;-) Andy -- PC-Based Multimedia System http://www.andylaurence.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pcbmms NB: Spamtrap - my name @yahoo.co.uk

Andy Laurence <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9rmifp$v00tp$[email hidden]...

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> > My guess is that every WC driver left foot brakes, with the exception > > of road circuits. I grew up left footed braking in my street car, and > > it's saved me from many accidents from the quicker reaction time to > > the brake pedal. > > I take it you drive an automatic. Bit different in a manual ;-) > > Andy > --

And I'm wondering about his general driving habits, if it was only the quicker reactions of left-foot braking which saved him from many accidents on the street. Stephen

You too eh? I was thinking you might need a HANS device to ride shotgun with this guy. Admittedly there may be a few legitimate situations where those extra milliseconds to get your right foot to the brake pedal save you from an accident, but generally if you're having to react that quickly you're not leaving enough room... A guy pulled out right in front of me on Saturday in pouring rain and despite being a right-foot braker I managed to get stopped. That was more due to knowing how to threshold brake and keep from skidding than reaction time. "Stephen Ferguson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bded989$[email hidden]...

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> > Andy Laurence <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9rmifp$v00tp$[email hidden]... > > > My guess is that every WC driver left foot brakes, with the exception > > > of road circuits. I grew up left footed braking in my street car, and > > > it's saved me from many accidents from the quicker reaction time to > > > the brake pedal. > > > > I take it you drive an automatic. Bit different in a manual ;-) > > > > Andy > > -- > > And I'm wondering about his general driving habits, if it was only the > quicker reactions of left-foot braking which saved him from many accidents > on the street. > > Stephen > > >

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>Andy Laurence <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:9rmifp$v00tp$[email hidden]... >> > My guess is that every WC driver left foot brakes, with the exception >> > of road circuits. I grew up left footed braking in my street car, and >> > it's saved me from many accidents from the quicker reaction time to >> > the brake pedal. >> >> I take it you drive an automatic. Bit different in a manual ;-) >> >> Andy >> -- > >And I'm wondering about his general driving habits, if it was only the >quicker reactions of left-foot braking which saved him from many accidents >on the street. >

I was just concerned about the 'many' part... -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:55:41 GMT, "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote: >A guy pulled out right in front of me on Saturday in pouring rain and >despite being a right-foot braker I managed to get stopped. That was more >due to knowing how to threshold brake and keep from skidding than reaction >time. And if it was me, I'm stopped 15' quicker than you. Bottom line is, I've never had an accident in 25 years and roughly 2 millions miles of travel. So speculate all you like about my driving habits if that's what floats your boat.

Actually the thing that was cool about the footage (pardon the pun) of Rusty from this race, was the way he was using the clutch. He appeared to use the clutch as a way of controlling the amount of power being applied to the rear wheels, gradually releasing the clutch as he came out of corners. This seems like it would be a bad idea, and would cause more wheel spin when the clutch was finally engaged, but it worked for him until his tire exploded. Anyone have any more info on this? I also would expect that this would really cause the clutch to heat up badly, since he "road the clutch" twice on each lap. btgoss "T. Wortman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3be1661d.1489920@news... > On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:55:41 GMT, "Rob Adams" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >A guy pulled out right in front of me on Saturday in pouring rain and > >despite being a right-foot braker I managed to get stopped. That was more > >due to knowing how to threshold brake and keep from skidding thanreaction

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> >time. > > And if it was me, I'm stopped 15' quicker than you. > > Bottom line is, I've never had an accident in 25 years and roughly 2 > millions miles of travel. So speculate all you like about my driving > habits if that's what floats your boat.

I remember seeing him do this on TV during practice (I didn't see it during the race because I was there!), but I don't believe he was using enough clutch travel to actually slip the clutch. Either he doesn't know he's doing it, or the weight from his foot combined with the g-forces in the corners makes his foot press the clutch down and take up the slack of the throwout bearing. I know if I slip the clutch on my 70 El Camino for too long, it gets very hot, and that's only at 1/4 of the rpm that winston cup cars turn, so I would think that slipping the clutch that much would ruin it within a few laps. Ryan

Unless it's made for it. That's an old drag racers trick, and there are clutches available that are made to allow progressive slip up to a certain point. "Ryan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ha%D7.64$[email hidden]... > I remember seeing him do this on TV during practice (I didn't see itduring > the race because I was there!), but I don't believe he was usingenough > clutch travel to actually slip the clutch. Either he doesn't knowhe's > doing it, or the weight from his foot combined with the g-forces inthe > corners makes his foot press the clutch down and take up the slack ofthe > throwout bearing. I know if I slip the clutch on my 70 El Camino fortoo > long, it gets very hot, and that's only at 1/4 of the rpm that winstoncup > cars turn, so I would think that slipping the clutch that much wouldruin it > within a few laps. > > Ryan > >

I think it's just slack in the throw-out bearing and wasn't any concious act. The multi-disc clutches the cup cars use don't take to kindly to being slipped even a little. Gordon slipped the clutch getting out of the pits after losing 1st and 2nd gear a couple years ago and almost completely burned it up in a matter of feet. "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Yz%D7.53418$[email hidden]...

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> Unless it's made for it. That's an old drag racers trick, and there are > clutches available that are made to allow progressive slip up to a > certain point. > > "Ryan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ha%D7.64$[email hidden]... > > I remember seeing him do this on TV during practice (I didn't see it > during > > the race because I was there!), but I don't believe he was using > enough > > clutch travel to actually slip the clutch. Either he doesn't know > he's > > doing it, or the weight from his foot combined with the g-forces in > the > > corners makes his foot press the clutch down and take up the slack of > the > > throwout bearing. I know if I slip the clutch on my 70 El Camino for > too > > long, it gets very hot, and that's only at 1/4 of the rpm that winston > cup > > cars turn, so I would think that slipping the clutch that much would > ruin it > > within a few laps. > > > > Ryan > > > > >

. Ryan schrieb: > Do you guys who built your own pedals have any links to your design or to > other sites that would help? I would love to build my own pedals and hook > them into my LWFF, but I have no idea what the wiring is like. If I only > had a clutch......... > > Ryan