Looks like Penske's sponsors would rather get coverage for just the Indy 500
rather then the entire CART series...
http://www.tsn.ca/racing/readstory.asp?story_id=2063498
Penske considers leaving CART for the IRL
A report that Roger Penske's sponsor wanted only Indy 500 coverage sparked argument over whether CART was in trouble. Posters disputed claims of an SEC investigation and engine-maker departures, debated tobacco advertising bans, and argued about CART versus IRL viewership. When ESPN reported that Penske was indeed leaving CART, the thread ended with jibes at the poster who had insisted he would stay.
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"Art McEwen" <[email hidden]> writes:
> Looks like Penske's sponsors would rather get coverage for just the Indy 500
> rather then the entire CART series...
>
> http://www.tsn.ca/racing/readstory.asp?story_id=2063498
And because of that the topic is "more trouble for CART" ? What about
trouble for Penske, or trouble for de Ferran and Castroneves ?
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Olav K. Malmin, dead tired off doom and gloomers
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The point is that if CART loses Penske, that would be a big blow. Do you not
understand that? Anyone can see that CART is having major problems right
now, it's pretty obvios.
JS
"Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Art McEwen" <[email hidden]> writes:
>
> > Looks like Penske's sponsors would rather get coverage for just the Indy500
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> > rather then the entire CART series... > > > > http://www.tsn.ca/racing/readstory.asp?story_id=2063498 > > And because of that the topic is "more trouble for CART" ? What about > trouble for Penske, or trouble for de Ferran and Castroneves ? > > -- > Olav K. Malmin, dead tired off doom and gloomers > remove .spam when replyingArt McEwen <[email hidden]> wrote on 01 Nov 2001:
> Looks like Penske's sponsors would rather get coverage for just the
> Indy 500 rather then the entire CART series...
>
> http://www.tsn.ca/racing/readstory.asp?story_id=2063498
The depressing thing is that the decision is a result of bloody fag
advertising. "Our decision will be driven by our sponsor," says Roger
Penske. OK, so that's usually the case anyway, but does he have to be
quite so blatant about it? Not the slightest mention of a *racing*
reason for the switch. For heaven's sake, US, if only you'd have the
sense to ban tobacco ads (even on the EU's glacial timescale) we
wouldn't have this idiocy.
CART has problems right now, no point in denying that, but it depresses
me that a lot of people seem to have given up in an American-based
international series, and are content just to stay in the comfortable
rut of IRL. I'm not disputing that it might well have good racing - but
it would have been nice to see a proper international rival series to
shake F1 out of its complacency - instead it looks as though the best
we'll see is open-wheel NASCAR.
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Cart is shooting it's own self in the foot. They'll be lucky to last
another two season the way they are going now. As it stands right now they
have no engine manufacturers for next year and are under investigation by
the SEC. They are a sinking ship.
CW
"Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Art McEwen" <[email hidden]> writes:
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> > Looks like Penske's sponsors would rather get coverage for just the Indy500
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> > rather then the entire CART series... > > > > http://www.tsn.ca/racing/readstory.asp?story_id=2063498 > > And because of that the topic is "more trouble for CART" ? What about > trouble for Penske, or trouble for de Ferran and Castroneves ? > > -- > Olav K. Malmin, dead tired off doom and gloomers > remove .spam when replying
>For heaven's sake, US, if only you'd have the sense to ban tobacco ads(even on the EU's glacial timescale) we
> wouldn't have this idiocy.
Yeah ban them and then nobody would be racing at all. No thanks.
MadDAWG
Joe Saxon <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> The point is that if CART loses Penske, that would be a big blow. Do younot
> understand that? Anyone can see that CART is having major problems right
> now, it's pretty obvios.
>Penske is not leaving CART!!!
Penske *may* start an irl team and move marlboro there, but he will stay in
CART, sponsors to be Mobil One, and Penske Auto Centers.
"Cowen Wilson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Cart is shooting it's own self in the foot. They'll be lucky to last
> another two season the way they are going now. As it stands right nowthey
> have no engine manufacturers for next year and are under investigation by
> the SEC. They are a sinking ship.
>
What's the SEC?
Cowen Wilson <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Cart is shooting it's own self in the foot. They'll be lucky to last
> another two season the way they are going now. As it stands right nowthey
> have no engine manufacturers for next year and are under investigation by
> the SEC. They are a sinking ship.
>Where do you get this crap?
CART has all 3 coming back next year.
There is no sec investigation.
If your going to make statements, back them up with FACTS, not your musings.
MadDAWG <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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All tobacco advertising will be banned in the US after 2006.
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> > > >For heaven's sake, US, if only you'd have the sense to ban tobacco ads > (even on the EU's glacial timescale) we > > wouldn't have this idiocy. > > Yeah ban them and then nobody would be racing at all. No thanks. >
While not 100% accurate, CW isn't 100% wrong either, you can pick nit's
with his statements but there's no point in pretending everything is
hunky-dorry in CART.
2 of the 3 engine makers have said they're not staying past 2002 under the
proposed rules.
http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/racing/03CART/011018b.html
http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/racing/03CART/011012b.html
One of CART's biggest stakeholders is trying to use the SEC to stage a coup:
http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/racing/03CART/011026a.html
The Security and Exchanges Commision (the "big brother" watchdog over the
stock markets here in the US, a Federal organization I think)
In layman's terms, they're the folks that came in and busted Gordon Gecco in
"Wall Street" the movie.
Thomas M�rlund <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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by
> > the SEC. They are a sinking ship.
> >
>
> What's the SEC?
>
>
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> > "Cowen Wilson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3be19cb7$[email hidden]... > > Cart is shooting it's own self in the foot. They'll be lucky to last > > another two season the way they are going now. As it stands right now > they > > have no engine manufacturers for next year and are under investigationThis one sounds more firm on the deal
http://www.thatsracin.com/01/1104/1102blountcol.htm
Art McEwen <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Looks like Penske's sponsors would rather get coverage for just the Indy500
> rather then the entire CART series...
>
> http://www.tsn.ca/racing/readstory.asp?story_id=2063498
>
>
rik zeppelin <[email hidden]> wrote on 01 Nov 2001:
> All tobacco advertising will be banned in the US after 2006.
Good. A lot of people complain about tobacco ad banning, but I'm
totally in favour. You can drink safely; you can drive fast cars
safely... you can't smoke safely. There's the difference. (Not to
mention passive smoking...)
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Art McEwen <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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But CW said 2002.
Words mean things.
> http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/racing/03CART/011018b.html
> http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/racing/03CART/011012b.html
>
> One of CART's biggest stakeholders is trying to use the SEC to stage acoup:
>
> http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/racing/03CART/011026a.html
>
Right, NOT an investigation by the SEC, as was stated.
Again, words mean things.
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> > While not 100% accurate, CW isn't 100% wrong either, you can pick nit's > with his statements but there's no point in pretending everything is > hunky-dorry in CART. > > 2 of the 3 engine makers have said they're not staying past 2002 under the > proposed rules. >"Thomas M�rlund" wrote:
The Securities Exchange Commission - they police things like stock fraud,
insider trading, etc. For what are they being investigated?
Dave Ewing
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> "Cowen Wilson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3be19cb7$[email hidden]... > > Cart is shooting it's own self in the foot. They'll be lucky to last > > another two season the way they are going now. As it stands right now > they > > have no engine manufacturers for next year and are under investigation by > > the SEC. They are a sinking ship. > > > > What's the SEC?
David Buttery <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> Good. A lot of people complain about tobacco ad banning, but I'm
> totally in favour. You can drink safely; you can drive fast cars
> safely... you can't smoke safely. There's the difference. (Not to
> mention passive smoking...)
Yes but smoking a pack of cigs in one night will not kill you. Finishing a
bottle of Jack Daniels can.
Dave
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:29:49 -0500, "Art McEwen"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>Looks like Penske's sponsors would rather get coverage for just the Indy 500
>rather then the entire CART series...
>
>http://www.tsn.ca/racing/readstory.asp?story_id=2063498
Well, it's bad news for the 8 people that watch CART, but on the
upside, the 6 people who watch IRL should be very happy.
DAVID J ROBINSON <robinsonspamfamily@prodig.> wrote on 01 Nov 2001:
> Yes but smoking a pack of cigs in one night will not kill you.
> Finishing a bottle of Jack Daniels can.
True - but if you do that you're not using the alcohol to the
manufacturer's recommendations. If you smoke the fags you are.
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deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan
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Also, Toyota won't commit to 2003 either unless the engine rules are
identical to IRL spec. Which they won't. CART is aiming at a non
rev-limited 3.5 l motor running on methanol.
CART really needs to take up Ford's offer of a spec motor for 2003,
it's the only way the series will survive.
Rafe Mc
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:30:39 -0500, "Art McEwen"
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> >While not 100% accurate, CW isn't 100% wrong either, you can pick nit's >with his statements but there's no point in pretending everything is >hunky-dorry in CART. > >2 of the 3 engine makers have said they're not staying past 2002 under the >proposed rules. > >http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/racing/03CART/011018b.html >http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/racing/03CART/011012b.html > >One of CART's biggest stakeholders is trying to use the SEC to stage a coup: > >http://www.speedvision.com/pub/articles/racing/03CART/011026a.html >On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 23:44:46 GMT, Tim O <[email hidden]>
wrote:
Anyone who watches IRL (only 4 actually) will be unhappy when an
organization like Penske comes in. They will totally dominate if they
run an IRL season, the slap-dash efforts of the competition will be a
laughing stock in comparison.
It'll be like McLaren in the late 80's of F1, with complete
domination. Hopefully it'll also spell the end of IRL and force a
reconciliation.
Rafe Mc
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>On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:29:49 -0500, "Art McEwen" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Looks like Penske's sponsors would rather get coverage for just the Indy 500 >>rather then the entire CART series... >> >>http://www.tsn.ca/racing/readstory.asp?story_id=2063498 > >Well, it's bad news for the 8 people that watch CART, but on the >upside, the 6 people who watch IRL should be very happy. >
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> On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:29:49 -0500, "Art McEwen"
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> >Looks like Penske's sponsors would rather get coverage for just the Indy500
Now THATS perspective..... ;)
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> >rather then the entire CART series... > > > >http://www.tsn.ca/racing/readstory.asp?story_id=2063498 > > Well, it's bad news for the 8 people that watch CART, but on the > upside, the 6 people who watch IRL should be very happy. >
"Rafe McAuliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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500
No it will be the end of CART but will force reconcialltion. Hmmm maybe
after all the IRL teams get spanked they will leave and form a new series on
the backwoods courses of Road AMerica, Mid Ohio & Road Atlanta :)
dave henrie
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> On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 23:44:46 GMT, Tim O <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:29:49 -0500, "Art McEwen" > ><[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >>Looks like Penske's sponsors would rather get coverage for just the IndyQuoted text (18 lines)
> >>rather then the entire CART series... > >> > >>http://www.tsn.ca/racing/readstory.asp?story_id=2063498 > > > >Well, it's bad news for the 8 people that watch CART, but on the > >upside, the 6 people who watch IRL should be very happy. > > > > Anyone who watches IRL (only 4 actually) will be unhappy when an > organization like Penske comes in. They will totally dominate if they > run an IRL season, the slap-dash efforts of the competition will be a > laughing stock in comparison. > > It'll be like McLaren in the late 80's of F1, with complete > domination. Hopefully it'll also spell the end of IRL and force a > reconciliation. > > Rafe McJust curious... Is there anyone here in RAS that also posts in the
www.seventhgear.com forums?
With the amount of people in here in favor of CART, you folks should post there
to help even out the doom & gloom...
(even if it's purty g'damn gloomy!)
Warlock!
Matt & Toni <[email hidden]> writes:
> Just curious... Is there anyone here in RAS that also posts in the
> www.seventhgear.com forums?
>
> With the amount of people in here in favor of CART, you folks should post there
> to help even out the doom & gloom...
> (even if it's purty g'damn gloomy!)
I sometimes post in the autoracing1.com forum. But I've kind of
stopped reading the forums now since i'm so sick and tired of so
called CART fans who claim CART is dead, and at the same time sound
like they enjoy it. What kind of a fan is that ?
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"Joe Saxon" <[email hidden]> writes:
> The point is that if CART loses Penske, that would be a big blow. Do you not
> understand that? Anyone can see that CART is having major problems right
> now, it's pretty obvios.
>
People said that it was a big blow that Goodyear left open wheel
racing too. If Penske decides to leave CART it will be Penkes loss,
not CART's. And certainly not Chip Ganassi's. In the long run, teams
come and go.
--
Olav K. Malmin
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> No it will be the end of CART but will force reconcialltion. Hmmm maybe
>after all the IRL teams get spanked they will leave and form a new series on
>the backwoods courses of Road AMerica, Mid Ohio & Road Atlanta :)
>dave henrie
Or maybe they could form their own "backwards" series and run them all
in reverse. :P
After all, IRL is pretty backwards anyway :)
Rafe Mc
>
A realist.
"Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Matt & Toni <[email hidden]> writes:
>
> > Just curious... Is there anyone here in RAS that also posts in the
> > www.seventhgear.com forums?
> >
> > With the amount of people in here in favor of CART, you folks shouldpost there
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> > to help even out the doom & gloom... > > (even if it's purty g'damn gloomy!) > > I sometimes post in the autoracing1.com forum. But I've kind of > stopped reading the forums now since i'm so sick and tired of so > called CART fans who claim CART is dead, and at the same time sound > like they enjoy it. What kind of a fan is that ? > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove .spam when replying"Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> writes:
> A realist.
That might be so. But it's the tone of the posts that I really don't
like. When someone starts the post by claiming how big fan they are
and use the rest of the post to tell everyone that CART is dead, again
in a tone that almost sounds like they enjoy it. Like when I tell
people that I can't travel to Le Mans next year because I have to
attend my cousin's wedding. And the answer is "good, you don't need to
go to those stupid motor races anyway".
It's like the old saying, when enough people starts to believe
something it starts to be the truth. That's why I'm so glad Mark
Cippolini at Autoracing1.com is not taking part in the Robin Miller
sudden quest for CART's demise. It's a good thing someone tries to
stay positive, even there is not much to be positive about.
--
Olav K. Malmin
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> "Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Matt & Toni <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > Just curious... Is there anyone here in RAS that also posts in the > > > www.seventhgear.com forums? > > > > > > With the amount of people in here in favor of CART, you folks should > post there > > > to help even out the doom & gloom... > > > (even if it's purty g'damn gloomy!) > > > > I sometimes post in the autoracing1.com forum. But I've kind of > > stopped reading the forums now since i'm so sick and tired of so > > called CART fans who claim CART is dead, and at the same time sound > > like they enjoy it. What kind of a fan is that ? > > > > -- > > Olav K. Malmin > > remove .spam when replying > >
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Don't let em get ya down Olav, CART will be fine, there is plenty of
positive things happening, new races, new sponsors, SPEEDVISION, 140 million
dollars, and so on.
CART may be experiencing some growing pains right now, but I'm not worried
at all.
Open wheel oval racing is on the way out, but we don't depend on ovals, now
do we?
Besides, my main beef with the irl is the crappy drivers, and underfunded
"who the hell are they" teams. not to mention the fake racecars. If CART
joins the irl, all that will be gone!
No more billy boats, no more racing dentists, no more amateurs from the dirt
track,
and hopefully no more fake racing.
Yes, with TG announcing he will not protect any irl teams I think the only
hope for the irl in it's current form is a healthy CART series. Ironic, eh?
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> "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > A realist. > > That might be so. But it's the tone of the posts that I really don't > like. When someone starts the post by claiming how big fan they are > and use the rest of the post to tell everyone that CART is dead, again > in a tone that almost sounds like they enjoy it. Like when I tell > people that I can't travel to Le Mans next year because I have to > attend my cousin's wedding. And the answer is "good, you don't need to > go to those stupid motor races anyway". > > It's like the old saying, when enough people starts to believe > something it starts to be the truth. That's why I'm so glad Mark > Cippolini at Autoracing1.com is not taking part in the Robin Miller > sudden quest for CART's demise. It's a good thing someone tries to > stay positive, even there is not much to be positive about. >From AR1- (read the last paragraph)
We hear that five very large firms are interested in sponsorship of CART's
Mexico City race. As we have reported in the past, one is Toyota, the
others are a South American tobacco company who are coming out with a new
brand of cigarettes, a large telecommunications company, Corona, and another
large Mexican firm. We hear Toyota is opening a lot of new dealerships in
Mexico City, so race sponsorship fits in well for them. The most
interesting news is that the promoters are starting to say they may get an
attendance of 400,000 on race day. With Indy having right around 300,000
seats, and the infield crowd not being much these days, it seems almost
certain now that CART's Mexico City race will displace the Indy 500 as the
biggest race in the world. MC
>>>>>>>>>
Anybody remember why IndyCars had to abandon racing in Mexico last time?
(Hint: think soccer hooligans.)
"rik zeppelin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> From AR1- (read the last paragraph)
>
> We hear that five very large firms are interested in sponsorship of CART's
> Mexico City race. As we have reported in the past, one is Toyota, the
> others are a South American tobacco company who are coming out with a new
> brand of cigarettes, a large telecommunications company, Corona, andanother
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> large Mexican firm. We hear Toyota is opening a lot of new dealerships in > Mexico City, so race sponsorship fits in well for them. The most > interesting news is that the promoters are starting to say they may get an > attendance of 400,000 on race day. With Indy having right around 300,000 > seats, and the infield crowd not being much these days, it seems almost > certain now that CART's Mexico City race will displace the Indy 500 as the > biggest race in the world. MC > >>>>>>>>> > > >
Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Anybody remember why IndyCars had to abandon racing in Mexico last time?
> (Hint: think soccer hooligans.)
>
The crowd was pretty well behaved this year.
As the most successful team in CART, Penske would be stupid to leave.
It will indeed be his loss, and CART will be the better for it.
Rafe Mc
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Malmin) wrote:
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>"Joe Saxon" <[email hidden]> writes: > >> The point is that if CART loses Penske, that would be a big blow. Do you not >> understand that? Anyone can see that CART is having major problems right >> now, it's pretty obvios. >> > >People said that it was a big blow that Goodyear left open wheel >racing too. If Penske decides to leave CART it will be Penkes loss, >not CART's. And certainly not Chip Ganassi's. In the long run, teams >come and go.
Rafe McAuliffe <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> As the most successful team in CART, Penske would be stupid to leave.
> It will indeed be his loss, and CART will be the better for it.
>I must say I agree.
Yes they were.
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> > Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:kBFE7.60946$[email hidden]... > > Anybody remember why IndyCars had to abandon racing in Mexico last time? > > (Hint: think soccer hooligans.) > > > > The crowd was pretty well behaved this year. > >Feeling stupid yet Mr Zeppelin?
from espn.com
Roger Penske and CART champion Gil de Ferran will be in Las Vegas on Tuesday
night to collect their $1 million for successfully defending their FedEx
Championship, but Penske will then bid adieu to the series he helped start
in 1979.
It looks like Roger Penske, right, is leaving CART for the IRL and will take
Gil de Ferran, left, with him.
Penske is expected to have a press conference in Indianapolis next week to
announce he's taking 2001 Indy winner Helio Castroneves and de Ferran to the
rival IRL in 2002. It was thought the nine-time CART champions might leave
de Ferran in CART to try for a third straight title but evidently that won't
be happening.
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> CART, sponsors to be Mobil One, and Penske Auto Centers.
>
>
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> > Joe Saxon <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%XeE7.12718$[email hidden]... > > The point is that if CART loses Penske, that would be a big blow. Do you > not > > understand that? Anyone can see that CART is having major problems right > > now, it's pretty obvios. > > > Penske is not leaving CART!!! > Penske *may* start an irl team and move marlboro there, but he will stay
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> Feeling stupid yet Mr Zeppelin?
>I'm not touching you!
Oooh, good one. Backing up that intelligence with more genious remarks.
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> Oooh, good one. Backing up that intelligence with more genious remarks. > > > "rik zeppelin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:g1xF7.25517$[email hidden]... > > > > JS <joesaxon!!nospam!!@mindspring.com> wrote in message > > news:9s5348$oio$[email hidden]... > > > Feeling stupid yet Mr Zeppelin? > > > > > I'm not touching you! > > > > > >use you spell checker, Einstein.
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> Oooh, good one. Backing up that intelligence with more genious remarks. > > > Feeling stupid yet Mr Zeppelin? > > I'm not touching you!
> use you spell checker, Einstein.Use *you* spell checker???
Sorry, but you left yourself wide open.
Ryan
pretty typical, not facing up to the facts. It would be so hard to say, "Boy
I've got egg on my face, I was wrong.....". Wouldn't it?
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> use you spell checker, Einstein. > > JS <joesaxon!!nospam!!@mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:9s7lfn$cnj$[email hidden]... > > Oooh, good one. Backing up that intelligence with more genious remarks. > > > > > > "rik zeppelin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:g1xF7.25517$[email hidden]... > > > > > > JS <joesaxon!!nospam!!@mindspring.com> wrote in message > > > news:9s5348$oio$[email hidden]... > > > > Feeling stupid yet Mr Zeppelin? > > > > > > > I'm not touching you! > > > > > > > > > > > >In article <p8MF7.832$[email hidden]>, "Ryan"
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>> use you spell checker, Einstein.
>Use *you* spell checker???
>Sorry, but you left yourself wide open.
>
>Ryan
>
Doesn't it ALWAYS happen that way...?<g>
Eldred
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Yup, there's some some things these spellcheckers don't catch... ;-)
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"EldredP" wrote...
> <snip>
> Doesn't it ALWAYS happen that way...?<g>
