The fast and the furious - comments

Damn, this movie is great! I really enjoyed it and the car trip home from the cinema was faster than anytime before :) Cool cars, cool races, cool girls - I really love it. I'd really like to drive those cars in a car racing game, is anyone planning to build one of the models in the movie? :) What do you think about the "fast and the furious"? (btw, I hope this isn't too off-topic) Ciao! Roppi

Well, I know you can modify the heck out of the cars in the Gran Turismo series... MothaBrain wrote:

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> Damn, this movie is great! I really enjoyed it and the car trip home > from the cinema was faster than anytime before :) > Cool cars, cool races, cool girls - I really love it. > > I'd really like to drive those cars in a car racing game, is anyone > planning > to build one of the models in the movie? :) > What do you think about the "fast and the furious"? > > (btw, I hope this isn't too off-topic) > > Ciao! > Roppi

Personally I thought the movie was horrible and terribly unrealistic As for a racing game. Check out Supercar Street Challenge. It looks like it may be the kind of game you are looking for. Although I have not played it so I can not comment on the "fun" factor "MothaBrain" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Damn, this movie is great! I really enjoyed it and the car trip home > from the cinema was faster than anytime before :) > Cool cars, cool races, cool girls - I really love it. > > I'd really like to drive those cars in a car racing game, is anyone > planning > to build one of the models in the movie? :) > What do you think about the "fast and the furious"? > > (btw, I hope this isn't too off-topic) > > Ciao! > Roppi

On 2 Nov 2001 05:47:21 -0800, [email hidden] (MothaBrain) wrote: >Damn, this movie is great! I really enjoyed it and the car trip home >from the cinema was faster than anytime before :) >Cool cars, cool races, cool girls - I really love it. After the first street race I stopped the movie and didn't watch the rest. Does it become better after the first 20 minutes? Andre

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> >I'd really like to drive those cars in a car racing game, is anyone >planning >to build one of the models in the movie? :) >What do you think about the "fast and the furious"? > >(btw, I hope this isn't too off-topic) > >Ciao! >Roppi

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> On 2 Nov 2001 05:47:21 -0800, [email hidden] (MothaBrain) > wrote: > > >Damn, this movie is great! I really enjoyed it and the car trip home > >from the cinema was faster than anytime before :) > >Cool cars, cool races, cool girls - I really love it. > > After the first street race I stopped the movie and didn't watch the > rest. Does it become better after the first 20 minutes? > > Andre

No, the car paint jobs do get progressively worse though :D And like another reply said- Gran Turismo 2 (PSX or emulator on your PC) would be the best bet to drive the cars (including a Charger I think, along with the supras) no VW Jettas that I'm aware of though! cheers John

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> On 2 Nov 2001 05:47:21 -0800, [email hidden] (MothaBrain) > wrote: >>Damn, this movie is great! I really enjoyed it and the car trip home >>from the cinema was faster than anytime before :) >>Cool cars, cool races, cool girls - I really love it. > After the first street race I stopped the movie and didn't watch the > rest. Does it become better after the first 20 minutes?

no, but that's part of its charm :-) it is pretty awful. dialogue is laughable, and racing skill is reduced to keeping it in a straight line and hitting the NOS button at the right time. i _had_ to watch it cos my mate has a honda s2000, and one appears (complete with NOS button) in a drag race 1/2 way through. there was much cheering at this point. but i admit to enjoying the movie, in my own strange way. and it looks like there's going to be a sequel. working title: TFATF2: this time we do corners. dr m.

Only good car was the Muscle car at the end :) I still think it was funny how all the cars in the movie had decals on the side straight out of a 80s movie :) <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: > > On 2 Nov 2001 05:47:21 -0800, [email hidden] (MothaBrain) > > wrote: > > >>Damn, this movie is great! I really enjoyed it and the car trip home > >>from the cinema was faster than anytime before :) > >>Cool cars, cool races, cool girls - I really love it. > > > After the first street race I stopped the movie and didn't watch the > > rest. Does it become better after the first 20 minutes? > > no, but that's part of its charm :-) it is pretty awful. dialogue is > laughable, and racing skill is reduced to keeping it in a straight > line and hitting the NOS button at the right time. i _had_ to watch it > cos my mate has a honda s2000, and one appears (complete with NOS > button) in a drag race 1/2 way through. there was much cheering at > this point. > > but i admit to enjoying the movie, in my own strange way. > > and it looks like there's going to be a sequel. working title: > TFATF2: this time we do corners. > > dr m.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Only good car was the Muscle car at the end YES! But I was devistated when they trashed it. ;/ Cheers, Rod.

On 2 Nov 2001 05:47:21 -0800, [email hidden] (MothaBrain) wrote: >Damn, this movie is great! I really enjoyed it and the car trip home >from the cinema was faster than anytime before :) >Cool cars, cool races, cool girls - I really love it. I went to see it the week it opened. You should have seen some of the shit wagons out in the parking lot. There must've been a hundred crappy Hyundai's and Civics with big fart can exhausts, neon lights underneath, loud stereos, giant Japanese writing, and ridiculous looking spoilers and body cladding on them -most of it still in primer gray. It was like a clown parade as they were all leaving. I try to keep an open mind, but I cannot imagine the appeal of these 4 cylinder 90 horsepower grandma shitboxes done up like this. Tim

> I try to keep an open mind, but I cannot imagine the appeal of these 4 > cylinder 90 horsepower grandma shitboxes done up like this. Me too, but then I open up the throttle on my 70 El Camino and let them know how I really feel. Plus, they can tell me if a taillight is out :-) Ryan

I think the appeal is the low cost of ownership. I kinda like the looks of a basic Civic, they can be a smooth looking car (stock that is). I like it's lines. They are certainly affordable. However I think the Japanese car to beat is this one. ;-) http://www.nissandriven.com/vehicles/FutureVehicleDetails/0,9437,520,00.html

LOL... must be great to live in a place where gas is cheap. It ain't over here (about $1 per litre) and on top of that, road tax and insurance premiums are calculated almost solely on displacement, so a 427 hemi is really out of the question. Ergo, I drive one of these shitboxes. It's cheap, reliable and economical transport and I respect it for that, but it's pathetic in terms of "a car". To "visually" tune it (as is done over here too), would be a fallacy. Certificate of conformity says 87bhp @ 5300rpm, but I doubt mine reaches that output at any revs (all cars are tuned for economy, not performance here). I went and drove the Nurburgring with it last year and had to throw shifts to get up some of the inclines. Simply laughable. And don't get me started 'bout the ridiculously long throw of the gearbox lever, the clutch which fails to engage in sync with the pedal if any lateral G is present, the iffy throttle response and the mushy brake pedal either. It sticks to the road like no tomorrow, but handles like s**t. Anyhow, enough of me lamenting about the sort of compromise one has to make when the running cost of a vehicle becomes a major factor, enjoy yours while you can. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "Ryan" wrote... > > <snip> > Me too, but then I open up the throttle on my 70 El Camino > and let them know how I really feel. Plus, they can tell > me if a taillight is out :-) > > Ryan

Yeah, the poor man's Audi TT... And "again" Nissan are not planning to make left hand driver versions for the European market... they left us out on the Skyline, which, when properly "stroked" can outdrive just about any streetgoing Ferrari and now this.... Jan./gutted. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "PositiveG" wrote...

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> I think the appeal is the low cost of ownership. > I kinda like the looks of a basic Civic, they can be a > smooth looking car (stock that is). > I like it's lines. They are certainly affordable. > > However I think the Japanese car to beat is this one.;-) > <url snipped>

And how was that line at the end: "I owe you a 10 sec car anyway" when he disappears with the Supra. I cracked up! What a plot and script :P Rafe Mc On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 20:22:15 GMT, Rod Prince <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > >> Only good car was the Muscle car at the end > >YES! > >But I was devistated when they trashed it. ;/ > >Cheers, >Rod.

Jan, it must really suck if they base taxes and insurance based on displacement. Any WRX owner will be getting away with blue murder! Turbos would be all the race I'm sure :) Petrol is about $1 a litre here too, but that's Aussie dollars, so only $0.50 US, so not too bad. Makes the V8 still a reasonable option, which is a beautiful thing. Hey, at least you have the opportunity to drive the 'Ring, yeah? Not too shabby! Rafe Mc On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 02:56:47 +0100, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>LOL... must be great to live in a place where gas is cheap. > >It ain't over here (about $1 per litre) and on top of that, road tax and >insurance premiums are calculated almost solely on displacement, so a 427 >hemi is really out of the question. > >Ergo, I drive one of these shitboxes. It's cheap, reliable and economical >transport and I respect it for that, but it's pathetic in terms of "a car". >To "visually" tune it (as is done over here too), would be a fallacy. > >Certificate of conformity says 87bhp @ 5300rpm, but I doubt mine reaches >that output at any revs (all cars are tuned for economy, not performance >here). I went and drove the Nurburgring with it last year and had to throw >shifts to get up some of the inclines. Simply laughable. > >And don't get me started 'bout the ridiculously long throw of the gearbox >lever, the clutch which fails to engage in sync with the pedal if any >lateral G is present, the iffy throttle response and the mushy brake pedal >either. It sticks to the road like no tomorrow, but handles like s**t. > >Anyhow, enough of me lamenting about the sort of compromise one has to make >when the running cost of a vehicle becomes a major factor, enjoy yours while >you can. > >Jan. >=--- >"Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. > >"Ryan" wrote... >> > <snip> >> Me too, but then I open up the throttle on my 70 El Camino >> and let them know how I really feel. Plus, they can tell >> me if a taillight is out :-) >> >> Ryan >

On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 21:11:17 -0400, "PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I think the appeal is the low cost of ownership. >I kinda like the looks of a basic Civic, they can be a smooth looking car >(stock that is). Wait a sec though, say you get a late model used Civic for $7000. You then get 16 inch wheels and low profile tires for a grand, 750 dollars worth of stereo equipment (a real low-ball estimate), a $300 Borla exhaust, and an easy $2200 in body cladding, spoilers and HKS Turbo stickers. Now you have over 10 grand in a car that looks like a race car (well, maybe to an idiot), but still runs 19 second quarter miles. Apparently, this is where some of the guys start feeling guilty, because they start spending ridiculous amounts of money on miniscule gain hop-up parts like headers and carbon fiber hoods. I also understand that it can be more fun to drive a slower car at it's limit than putter around in a brutally fast car, but if you're going to do that, why not do it in something like a Mazda Miata that has some sense of fun and style (not to mention the proper RWD layout for a performance car). Tim

Maybe it was unrealistic, but I thought it was cool anyway. I don't many movies whose main part are cars :) I was always wondering about the funny car decals; I thought it was common in the USA to have them as a "tuning" part ;) Robert

"MothaBrain" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Maybe it was unrealistic, but I thought it was cool anyway. > I don't many movies whose main part are cars :) > > I was always wondering about the funny car decals; I thought it was > common in the USA to have them as a "tuning" part ;) > > > Robert

I thought they all looked like "hot wheels" cars... john

I agree totally. I've seen Ford Tempo's and Chevettes dolled up too. They buy the car cheap, then add this, then add that. They can't afford the big payments yet so their money pisses away on the car. It's been done this way for years, something to grow out of. We're just seeing the low end being Japanese imports now a days. Doesn't bother me in the least, maybe in 20 years we'll see them hopp'n up electric cars! :-) I never went that route with my vehicles. Never was into draggin'. When I wanted speed, I moved to two wheels. :-) Grip and cornering is more important to me now adays. Speed kills. Can't wait to see what Nissan does to the MAX. Several rumours include rear or all wheel drive. "Tim O" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... : On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 21:11:17 -0400, "PositiveG" : <[email hidden]> wrote: : : >I think the appeal is the low cost of ownership. : >I kinda like the looks of a basic Civic, they can be a smooth looking car : >(stock that is). : : Wait a sec though, say you get a late model used Civic for $7000. : You then get 16 inch wheels and low profile tires for a grand, 750 : dollars worth of stereo equipment (a real low-ball estimate), a $300 : Borla exhaust, and an easy $2200 in body cladding, spoilers and HKS : Turbo stickers. : : Now you have over 10 grand in a car that looks like a race car (well, : maybe to an idiot), but still runs 19 second quarter miles. : Apparently, this is where some of the guys start feeling guilty, : because they start spending ridiculous amounts of money on miniscule : gain hop-up parts like headers and carbon fiber hoods. : : I also understand that it can be more fun to drive a slower car at : it's limit than putter around in a brutally fast car, but if you're : going to do that, why not do it in something like a Mazda Miata that : has some sense of fun and style (not to mention the proper RWD layout : for a performance car). : : Tim

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... : Yeah, the poor man's Audi TT... : Not sure if you'll need to be poor to buy them, the used Z's I've seen still fetch major coin if they've been hopped up to 300-400HP.

>"PositiveG" <[email hidden]> wrote > I've seen Ford Tempo's and Chevettes dolled up too. I've seen a LADA boosted up. Yes, a super modified 4x4 NIVA. It had a 2.9 V8 cylinder, I think he wanted to replicate a proto version that is used for Rally racing. It was the most pathetic, yet hilarious thing I've seen in years in the car industry. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Oh sure, I wasn't really hinting at the price, just at the amazing visual/style similarity. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "PositiveG" wrote... > <snip> > Not sure if you'll need to be poor to buy them, the used Z's > I've seen still fetch major coin if they've been hopped up to > 300-400HP.

"Rafe McAuliffe" wrote... > Jan, it must really suck if they base taxes and insurance > based on displacement. Any WRX owner will be getting away > with blue murder! Turbos would be all the race I'm sure :) They are... turbo diesels, actually. I'm sick to death of seeing TDi and CDi badges. > Petrol is about $1 a litre here too, but that's Aussie dollars, > so only $0.50 US, so not too bad. Makes the V8 still a reasonable > option, which is a beautiful thing. I'm sure it is. > Hey, at least you have the opportunity to drive the 'Ring, > yeah? Not too shabby! Yup, gotta admit that. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse news:[email hidden]... > LOL... must be great to live in a place where gas is cheap. > > It ain't over here (about $1 per litre) and on top of that, road tax and > insurance premiums are calculated almost solely on displacement, so a 427 > hemi is really out of the question. ><snip!> I drive a small Jap Stationcar w/ 112 hp. Our road taxes (or whatever) are based solely on fuel consumption, which kinda hurts the gas-guzzlers. But then again I couldn't afford one in the first place as the price of cars in Denmark is about three times what the same car would cost in the States. Yes, triple your prices! :-( /Jens

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> > "Rafe McAuliffe" wrote... > > Jan, it must really suck if they base taxes and insurance > > based on displacement. Any WRX owner will be getting away > > with blue murder! Turbos would be all the race I'm sure :) > > They are... turbo diesels, actually. I'm sick to death of seeing TDi and CDi > badges.

ROFL I know some of the local "boy racers" are sick of seeing the TDi badge on my VW Passat station wagon, or rather, the disappearing TDi badge.... Man I love these chip tuned TDi's, 45 mpg and more than enought grunt to give BMW 320i's and such a run for it's money Yeah I know, it's silly of me, but I can't help it, I'm still a kid at heart http://www.speed-buster.de/ if anyone is wondering what I'm on about :-), this will be my next one, http://www.speed-buster.de/datenblatt.php?id=307, bit more grunt than my current one Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" --Groucho Marx--

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > And how was that line at the end: "I owe you a 10 sec car anyway" when > he disappears with the Supra. I cracked up! What a plot and script :P Possibly he meant a car that takes at least 10 seconds to dodge all those wanky things that they stick all over the dash of riceburners before you can actually sit in the car. ;/ Cheers, Rod.

ROFLMAO ! :-) -- R.I.P. - William Joseph Dunlop OBE MBE 2/25/52 - 7/2/2000 http://www.roadracers.uk.com/legend.htm

> Me too, but then I open up the throttle on my 70 El Camino and let themknow > how I really feel. Plus, they can tell me if a taillight is out :-) Heh - they've probably zipped away before your Cam's started its clumsy lurch.

Um...................... no Ryan

"Jan Verschueren" wrote... > <snip> > Ergo, I drive one of these shitboxes. It's cheap, reliable and > economical transport and I respect it for that, but it's > pathetic in terms of "a car". Ok let's tone that down a little... a recent experience has renewed my appreciation for A to B comfortably and economically. I did an army PR event (a march) with the army reserves last Saturday, driving one of the vehicles and helping to man a control post. True to form the army dug out the worst clunkers in the inventory for us to move our gear and personel with. After a day of driving a 15 year old Ford Transit pick-up with enough play in the steering to scare me, completely worn-out synchro's, non-assisted brakes / steering and the ergonomics of a quartering table, not to mention the refusal to start, the "hunting" and stuttering of the engine, it was relief to get back in my "Japanese shitbox", have it start first time, using power steering to pick my way out of the barracks and enjoy it's smooth if fairly unresponsive ride on the way home (and again: not to mention standing on the brakes doesn't actually mean "standing" on them). In view of the poor mechanical condition of the Transit, I tippy-toed it all day which left me mentally drained, so owning a car which is completely undemanding to drive turned out to be a blessing in disguise. Moral of the story: it's all good an well to hunger for the days when cars had "character", but it's only applicable if, and only if, these cars are driven when in immaculate technical condition. Jan. =---