OT: windows Outlook express is deleting read emails...

sure lecture me about using this MS crapola....I'll listen...but something has recently changed on my system....in the past, emails that I had read would stay in the INBOX until I manually deleted them. Now as soon as I leave the email section all read emails are sent to the trash...I have searched through the tools/options and in OE5+ tools/internet options but I don't see a checkbox or setting that says/// delete the frickin email as soon as Dave reads it.. /// What setting am I overlooking? dave henrie

found it...under VIEW...never mind :) "

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QeME7.10067$[email hidden]... > found it...under VIEW...never mind :) Heh...that happened to me once. Had to uncheck that stupid "hide read messages" option. Who's the idiot that thought up that one? :-)

STP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0XME7.1064$[email hidden]...

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> > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:QeME7.10067$[email hidden]... > > found it...under VIEW...never mind :) > > Heh...that happened to me once. Had to uncheck that stupid "hide read > messages" option. Who's the idiot that thought up that one? :-)

Makes a hell of a lot of sense in newsgroups... (to me, at least ;-) Jonny

Of course, the best solution is to dump OE... Rafe Mc On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 02:22:15 -0500, "STP" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:QeME7.10067$[email hidden]... >> found it...under VIEW...never mind :) > >Heh...that happened to me once. Had to uncheck that stupid "hide read >messages" option. Who's the idiot that thought up that one? :-) >

In favour of ?? Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "Rafe McAuliffe" wrote... > Of course, the best solution is to dump OE... > > Rafe Mc

STP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0XME7.1064$[email hidden]...

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> > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:QeME7.10067$[email hidden]... > > found it...under VIEW...never mind :) > > Heh...that happened to me once. Had to uncheck that stupid "hide read > messages" option. Who's the idiot that thought up that one? :-) >

some guy using a phone line and one of those antique modem thingys

Dave... Sound like you have the famous Outlook Express Trojan called "LSHSTGRI.dll"......oh man! When activated, it will alter your "view settings" at random. Tom "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EJJE7.9798$[email hidden]... > sure lecture me about using this MS crapola....I'll listen...butsomething > has recently changed on my system....in the past, emails that I had read > would stay in the INBOX until I manually deleted them. Now as soon as I > leave the email section all read emails are sent to the trash...I have > searched through the tools/options and in OE5+ tools/internet options butI

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> don't see a checkbox or setting that says/// > delete the frickin email as soon as Dave reads it.. > /// > What setting am I overlooking? > dave henrie > >

"Jonny Hodgson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pVOE7.4251$[email hidden]... > Makes a hell of a lot of sense in newsgroups... > (to me, at least ;-) > > Jonny So long as you remember that all those emails and messages are still on your hard drive. I'm giving OE a trial run since installing XP, but I've always preferred Agent for both email and news, in Agent I just select the purge read messages option manually to get rid of all the trash. OE is not bad though, it's just not a power user's choice of news reader.

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In favour of ?? Agent, Free Agent (if you're cheap), NewsXpress. www.forteinc.com (Agent/Free Agnet)

"rik zeppelin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6NSE7.23420$[email hidden]... > some guy using a phone line and one of those antique modem thingys Heh...I use a 56k modem. I did have DSL too not long ago. Problem was their news server was crap. I'm actually getting better response time from the news server at eol.ca using a 56k modem than I did at sympatico.ca using DSL. Only problem is downloading binary files is now soooo slow now.

Like the way Agent handles binary attachments (and use it for this purpose), but I like OE's interface better for general newsgroup use. And, as far as I know, it doesn't do mail? NewsXpress?? -You gotta be kidding... did they ever get that to work? Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "STP" wrote... > Agent, Free Agent (if you're cheap), NewsXpress. > > www.forteinc.com (Agent/Free Agnet)

rik zeppelin wrote:

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> > STP <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:0XME7.1064$[email hidden]... > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:QeME7.10067$[email hidden]... > > > found it...under VIEW...never mind :) > > > > Heh...that happened to me once. Had to uncheck that stupid "hide read > > messages" option. Who's the idiot that thought up that one? :-) > > > > some guy using a phone line and one of those antique modem thingys

But why update to cable? Won't improve you're framerates or anything... :-P -- Fester

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> rik zeppelin wrote: > > > > STP <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:0XME7.1064$[email hidden]... > > > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:QeME7.10067$[email hidden]... > > > > found it...under VIEW...never mind :) > > > > > > Heh...that happened to me once. Had to uncheck that stupid "hide read > > > messages" option. Who's the idiot that thought up that one? :-) > > > > > > > some guy using a phone line and one of those antique modem thingys > > > But why update to cable? Won't improve you're framerates or > anything... :-P >

Actually, my cable connection has been a damn good experience. All the naysayers claimed it woould bog down with increased usership. NOT!! My cable is faster now than it ever has been, this almost 2 years later.

Be aware that Xnews is an online news reader. ie. you can't download all messages while online to read offline after you have disconnected the modem. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Rafe McAuliffe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Eudora is a hell of a lot better for email, The Bat! is also pretty > good (has a lot of controls for the user, but can be tricky > initially). > > Agent is solid and reliable, it handles email as well (though it's not > the nicest of clients). Xnews is also supposed to be very good, never > used it though. > > Rafe Mc >

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Like the way Agent handles binary attachments (and use it for thispurpose), > but I like OE's interface better for general newsgroup use. And, as far asI > know, it doesn't do mail? Agent does mail, and very well too, treats it just like news posts. Free Agent doesn't do mail. > NewsXpress?? -You gotta be kidding... did they ever get that to work? The last version I tried was pretty good. Other peope think so too. Maybe you haven't used it since 1994?

"Rafe McAuliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Eudora is a hell of a lot better for email, Did they remove the spyware? > Agent is solid and reliable, it handles email as well (though it's not > the nicest of clients). Xnews is also supposed to be very good, never > used it though. I think maybe I was mixing up Newsxpress with Xnews.

Did they remove the spyware? I think maybe I was mixing up Newsxpress with Xnews.

"Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9s422q$bns$[email hidden]... > Be aware that Xnews is an online news reader. ie. you can't download all > messages while online to read offline after you have disconnected themodem. That is not a concern to people over here, but I can see it being to you over there considering you have to pay toll charges per minute on the phone.

"STP" wrote... > > <snip> > Agent does mail, and very well too, treats it just like news > posts. Free Agent doesn't do mail. Ah, I see. Well, call me cheap but I indeed use Free Agent, as per their private single user agreement. If it indeed handles E-mail like it does (text) newsmessages, I'm sure I wouldn't like the full version better than OE. > > <snip> > The last version I tried was pretty good. Other peope think > so too. Maybe you haven't used it since 1994? Something to that effect, yes. I downloaded Eudora and NewsXpress when I first got on the web, but finally, out of frustration with both programs got the Plus!-pack for Win95 and haven't really looked into other readers/clients since. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.

In article <[email hidden]>, jan.no- [email hidden] says... > Something to that effect, yes. I downloaded Eudora and NewsXpress when I > first got on the web, but finally, out of frustration with both programs got > the Plus!-pack for Win95 and haven't really looked into other > readers/clients since. What kind of frustration could Eudora give? I have been using it for many, many years without a hitch. I also did not have to worry about any of those virus' that target OE and email everyone in my address book. I use Eudora for email and Gravity for newsgroups. -- Skotty Flynn http://www.nascar-racing-sims.com

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>In favour of ?? > >Jan. >=--- >"Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. > >"Rafe McAuliffe" wrote... >> Of course, the best solution is to dump OE...

ANYTHING... :-) Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Skotty Flynn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I also did not have to worry about any of those virus' that target OE > and email everyone in my address book. You don't have to worry about it in OE either if people just set the options to be safe. I'm using OE 6 now for email and there is an option to stop attachments opening automatically. Also setting email and news to plain text only is an option which will stop any malicious activeX or java script from running.

STP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZDVE7.1094$[email hidden]...

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> > "Jonny Hodgson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:pVOE7.4251$[email hidden]... > > Makes a hell of a lot of sense in newsgroups... > > (to me, at least ;-) > > > > Jonny > > So long as you remember that all those emails and messages are still on your > hard drive. I'm giving OE a trial run since installing XP, but I've always

<snip> No they ain't! Well, the emails are because I read them in Outlook and then archive them to a directory structure; but I've got a rule set up in OE which deletes ng posts after three weeks (or whatever number I thought of at the time ;-) I can see that a few things such as coloured quoting would be nice, but otherwise I like the OE interface and find it thoroughly convenient for off-line reading (I'm not paying for connection time, but I prefer not to tie up my phone line while I'm reading the ~500 new messages I get each day). Now, for ultimate news-and-email I reckon Pine is the way to go ;-) although it won't remind me about that bill that needs paying next week, or that doctor's appointment... Jonny

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>"Skotty Flynn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> I also did not have to worry about any of those virus' that target OE >> and email everyone in my address book. > >You don't have to worry about it in OE either if people just set the options >to be safe. >I'm using OE 6 now for email and there is an option to stop attachments >opening automatically. Also setting email and news to plain text only is an >option which will stop any malicious activeX or java script from running. >

You are correct. But the default install options leave everything wide open. That's a mistake by MS, in my opinion. Most people running OE or variants don't have a CLUE about how vulnerable their system is with it. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:00:28 -0500, "STP" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >"Rafe McAuliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Eudora is a hell of a lot better for email, > >Did they remove the spyware? I use an older version with no spyware, the current free version does have it though I believe. Or you can register to remove it. Rafe Mc

>You are correct. But the default install options leave everything wide open. >That's a mistake by MS, in my opinion. Most people running OE or variants >don't have a CLUE about how vulnerable their system is with it. > >Eldred Too true Eldred, the number of OE virus's I've received her from unwitting victims is amazing. Rafe Mc

>What kind of frustration could Eudora give? I have been using it for >many, many years without a hitch. >I also did not have to worry about any of those virus' that target OE >and email everyone in my address book. >I use Eudora for email and Gravity for newsgroups. I agree, Eudora has been problem free and reliable for many years for me. Not as customisable as i would like, that's about it. But a very well put-together program. Rafe Mc

Hide Read Messages is stupid? I wouldn't use a newsreader that _didn't_ have this feature. -Larry "Jonny Hodgson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:pVOE7.4251$[email hidden]... > > STP <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:0XME7.1064$[email hidden]...

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> > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:QeME7.10067$[email hidden]... > > > found it...under VIEW...never mind :) > > > > Heh...that happened to me once. Had to uncheck that stupid "hide read > > messages" option. Who's the idiot that thought up that one? :-) > > Makes a hell of a lot of sense in newsgroups... > (to me, at least ;-) > > Jonny > >