F1 2001 Force Feedback?

Geez! I just bought a Thrustmaster Pro Force Feedback wheel (very nice wheel, by the way) and I come to find out that F1 2001 doesn't even support it!!!! I did reload F1CS2K to try it out, but it just isn't the same. Good thing I kept my receipt!

FF to come in patch out mid-November - we hope! Iain "Rod120469" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Geez! I just bought a Thrustmaster Pro Force Feedback wheel (very nicewheel, > by the way) and I come to find out that F1 2001 doesn't even supportit!!!! I > did reload F1CS2K to try it out, but it just isn't the same. Good thing Ikept > my receipt!

EA are supposed to be bringing out an FF patch sometime, but I haven't heard anything recently. Andi. "Rod120469" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Geez! I just bought a Thrustmaster Pro Force Feedback wheel (very nicewheel, > by the way) and I come to find out that F1 2001 doesn't even supportit!!!! I > did reload F1CS2K to try it out, but it just isn't the same. Good thing Ikept > my receipt!

This is unthinkable! Releasing a Formula 1 racing game in 2001 without force feedback support! What were they thinking!? This fact alone had kept F1 2001 off my shopping list. As soon as a patch is out implementing force feedback, I'll give it a try. But until then.... not a chance. John Cauthen Rod120469 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Geez! I just bought a Thrustmaster Pro Force Feedback wheel (very nicewheel, > by the way) and I come to find out that F1 2001 doesn't even supportit!!!! I > did reload F1CS2K to try it out, but it just isn't the same. Good thing Ikept > my receipt!

I dumped my FF wheel about 5 months ago...Loved the FF but the LWFF pedals gave me grief. Now using a TM Pro Digital two...without FF. dave henrie "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9s3tj8$3l7h$[email hidden]... > This is unthinkable! Releasing a Formula 1 racing game in 2001 without > force feedback support! What were they thinking!? This fact alone hadkept > F1 2001 off my shopping list. As soon as a patch is out implementingforce

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> feedback, I'll give it a try. But until then.... not a chance. > > John Cauthen > > Rod120469 <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Geez! I just bought a Thrustmaster Pro Force Feedback wheel (very nice > wheel, > > by the way) and I come to find out that F1 2001 doesn't even support > it!!!! I > > did reload F1CS2K to try it out, but it just isn't the same. Good thing

I > kept > > my receipt! > >

"Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Dd7F7.9464$[email hidden]... > FF to come in patch out mid-November - we hope! > Iain Does that include a fix for no cars in the rear mirrors and not having to use windowed mode?

It seems like many of the top drivers aren't impressed with force feedback. I'm merely an average racer, but I can see proof of a performance improvment with force feedback. Beyond that I just enjoy the added sensual dimension "good" force feedback provides. I share your sentiments on the LWFF pedals, however, I've learned to live with them. I know I could do a lot better. I know a guy who had married a set of CH Pro pedals with his cable driven LWFF wheel. That seems to be the best solution I'd seen to date... at least for someone who likes force feedback. The comment I made was not to suggest that everyone uses force feedback, rather I was just pointing out that EA Sports lost a significant number of potential buyers for the "out of the box" product. John Cauthen Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YSeF7.19617$[email hidden]... > I dumped my FF wheel about 5 months ago...Loved the FF but the LWFFpedals

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> gave me grief. Now using a TM Pro Digital two...without FF. > dave henrie > "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9s3tj8$3l7h$[email hidden]... > > This is unthinkable! Releasing a Formula 1 racing game in 2001 without > > force feedback support! What were they thinking!? This fact alone had > kept > > F1 2001 off my shopping list. As soon as a patch is out implementing > force > > feedback, I'll give it a try. But until then.... not a chance. > > > > John Cauthen > > > > Rod120469 <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Geez! I just bought a Thrustmaster Pro Force Feedback wheel (very

nice > > wheel, > > > by the way) and I come to find out that F1 2001 doesn't even support > > it!!!! I > > > did reload F1CS2K to try it out, but it just isn't the same. Goodthing

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> I > > kept > > > my receipt! > > > > > >

Most people - myself included - don't have either of these problems despite what you may read here. However, yes I believe that the nvidia driver issue will be resolved. Iain "STP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1ngF7.10$[email hidden]...

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> > "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Dd7F7.9464$[email hidden]... > > FF to come in patch out mid-November - we hope! > > Iain > > Does that include a fix for no cars in the rear mirrors and not having to > use windowed mode? > >

I think you'll find john that no ff is not such a big problem in F1 2001. Add some centering spring and it feels good even without ff. Iain "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9s54ft$565o$[email hidden]... > It seems like many of the top drivers aren't impressed with forcefeedback. > I'm merely an average racer, but I can see proof of a performanceimprovment > with force feedback. Beyond that I just enjoy the added sensual dimension > "good" force feedback provides. I share your sentiments on the LWFFpedals, > however, I've learned to live with them. I know I could do a lot better. > > I know a guy who had married a set of CH Pro pedals with his cable driven > LWFF wheel. That seems to be the best solution I'd seen to date... atleast

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> for someone who likes force feedback. > > The comment I made was not to suggest that everyone uses force feedback, > rather I was just pointing out that EA Sports lost a significant number of > potential buyers for the "out of the box" product. > > John Cauthen > > Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:YSeF7.19617$[email hidden]... > > I dumped my FF wheel about 5 months ago...Loved the FF but the LWFF > pedals > > gave me grief. Now using a TM Pro Digital two...without FF. > > dave henrie > > "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9s3tj8$3l7h$[email hidden]... > > > This is unthinkable! Releasing a Formula 1 racing game in 2001

without > > > force feedback support! What were they thinking!? This fact alonehad

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> > kept > > > F1 2001 off my shopping list. As soon as a patch is out implementing > > force > > > feedback, I'll give it a try. But until then.... not a chance. > > > > > > John Cauthen > > > > > > Rod120469 <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Geez! I just bought a Thrustmaster Pro Force Feedback wheel (very > nice > > > wheel, > > > > by the way) and I come to find out that F1 2001 doesn't even support > > > it!!!! I > > > > did reload F1CS2K to try it out, but it just isn't the same. Good > thing > > I > > > kept > > > > my receipt! > > > > > > > > > > > >

In article <bOAF7.18920$[email hidden]>, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Most people - myself included - don't have either of these problems despite >what you may read here. However, yes I believe that the nvidia driver issue >will be resolved. >Iain > > >"STP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:1ngF7.10$[email hidden]... >> >> "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:Dd7F7.9464$[email hidden]... >> > FF to come in patch out mid-November - we hope! >> > Iain >> >> Does that include a fix for no cars in the rear mirrors and not having to >> use windowed mode? >>

I don't have any mirrors either, and I have a V5. What setting did I miss? Do I have to use windowed mode for that? I don't have any other frame rate issues(that I've noticed). Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <bOAF7.18920$[email hidden]>, "Iain > Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Most people - myself included - don't have either of these problemsdespite > >what you may read here. However, yes I believe that the nvidia driverissue > >will be resolved. > >Iain There is no problem on the 12.90 drivers, but any of the 21.xx drivers have no cars showing in the rear view mirrors. This is on Win98 and WinXP. What settings are you using for your drivers then? Maybe I set mine differently, but to say most peple have no problem and yet I have it on both XP (clean install) and 98 doesn't make me want to believe you.

Well, you said it yourself, there is no problem for most people on the 12.90s. Don't use the 21.xxs - simple as that! Iain "STP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jYQF7.450$[email hidden]... > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <bOAF7.18920$[email hidden]>,"Iain

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> > Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >Most people - myself included - don't have either of these problems > despite > > >what you may read here. However, yes I believe that the nvidia driver > issue > > >will be resolved. > > >Iain > > There is no problem on the 12.90 drivers, but any of the 21.xx drivers

have > no cars showing in the rear view mirrors. This is on Win98 and WinXP. What > settings are you using for your drivers then? Maybe I set minedifferently, > but to say most peple have no problem and yet I have it on both XP (clean > install) and 98 doesn't make me want to believe you. > >

In article <jYQF7.450$[email hidden]>, "STP" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> In article <bOAF7.18920$[email hidden]>, "Iain >> Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> writes: >> >> >Most people - myself included - don't have either of these problems >despite >> >what you may read here. However, yes I believe that the nvidia driver >issue >> >will be resolved. >> >Iain > >There is no problem on the 12.90 drivers, but any of the 21.xx drivers have >no cars showing in the rear view mirrors. This is on Win98 and WinXP. What >settings are you using for your drivers then? Maybe I set mine differently, >but to say most peple have no problem and yet I have it on both XP (clean >install) and 98 doesn't make me want to believe you.

Since you messed up the quoting, I hope people don't think that *I* said most people don't have problems, or that the issue will be resolved. I don't have any mirrors in the program, but I have a Voodoo 5. I'm running 98se, but I couldn't tell you what drivers I was running.... :( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Eldred, the mirrors work just fine with the V5500, have a look through the graphics options you might not have the mirrors turned on, its on the same screen as where you choose the default driving view. Mark "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <jYQF7.450$[email hidden]>, "STP" <[email hidden]>writes: > > >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> In article <bOAF7.18920$[email hidden]>,"Iain

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> >> Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> writes: > >> > >> >Most people - myself included - don't have either of these problems > >despite > >> >what you may read here. However, yes I believe that the nvidia driver > >issue > >> >will be resolved. > >> >Iain > > > >There is no problem on the 12.90 drivers, but any of the 21.xx drivers

have > >no cars showing in the rear view mirrors. This is on Win98 and WinXP.What > >settings are you using for your drivers then? Maybe I set minedifferently, > >but to say most peple have no problem and yet I have it on both XP (clean > >install) and 98 doesn't make me want to believe you. > > Since you messed up the quoting, I hope people don't think that *I* saidmost > people don't have problems, or that the issue will be resolved. I don'thave > any mirrors in the program, but I have a Voodoo 5. I'm running 98se, butI

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> couldn't tell you what drivers I was running.... :( > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, "Mark Aisthorpe" <[email hidden]> writes: >Eldred, the mirrors work just fine with the V5500, have a look through the >graphics options you might not have the mirrors turned on, its on the same >screen as where you choose the default driving view. > Good grief - the mirrors weren't turned on(by default?!). Since the default view was the cockpit view, I never even went to that screen... Thanks. Now all I have to figure out is how to get a higher top speed at Hockenheim than 183mph... :( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" went to that screen... Thanks. Now > all I have to figure out is how to get a higher top speed at Hockenheimthan > 183mph... :( > > Eldred take your foot off the brake pedal.... (just a thought :> ) dave henrie

"Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yPWF7.22201$[email hidden]... > Well, you said it yourself, there is no problem for most people on the > 12.90s. Don't use the 21.xxs - simple as that! > Iain Use 12.90's because of one game? Bollocks.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Since you messed up the quoting, I hope people don't think that *I* saidmost > people don't have problems, or that the issue will be resolved. Sorry, been tryin out Outlook Express under XP instead of my usual trusty Agent news reader and not quite used to it. With that being said, is there anyway to make OE stop from wanting me to top post by default?

"STP" <[email hidden]> writes:

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> "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Since you messed up the quoting, I hope people don't think that *I* said > most > > people don't have problems, or that the issue will be resolved. > > Sorry, been tryin out Outlook Express under XP instead of my usual trusty > Agent news reader and not quite used to it. With that being said, is there > anyway to make OE stop from wanting me to top post by default?

Easy, stop using OE <ducks> -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 07:36:27 -0500, "STP" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Since you messed up the quoting, I hope people don't think that *I* said >most >> people don't have problems, or that the issue will be resolved. > >Sorry, been tryin out Outlook Express under XP instead of my usual trusty >Agent news reader and not quite used to it. With that being said, is there >anyway to make OE stop from wanting me to top post by default?

Doesn't Agent work under XP?? I don't wanna downgrade to Outlook when I upgrade to XP (in a year or two that is) Andre

Thank You! I've been saying the same thing. If 90% of my games work well with the latest driver, I ain't gonna go back a version just for one game. (F1 2001 mostly for me in windowed mode with the 21.83 drivers by the way, just the mirrors don't work. I've let it lie until the patch arrives, though). "STP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RXuG7.1473$[email hidden]...

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> > "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:yPWF7.22201$[email hidden]... > > Well, you said it yourself, there is no problem for most people on the > > 12.90s. Don't use the 21.xxs - simple as that! > > Iain > > Use 12.90's because of one game? Bollocks.

Each to his own priorities I guess! Iain "STP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RXuG7.1473$[email hidden]...

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> > "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:yPWF7.22201$[email hidden]... > > Well, you said it yourself, there is no problem for most people on the > > 12.90s. Don't use the 21.xxs - simple as that! > > Iain > > Use 12.90's because of one game? Bollocks. > >

In article <cooG7.3366$[email hidden]>, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>"EldredP" went to that screen... Thanks. Now >> all I have to figure out is how to get a higher top speed at Hockenheim >than >> 183mph... :( >> >> Eldred > take your foot off the brake pedal.... >(just a thought :> )

Hahaha...smartass... <g> Honestly, the car won't GO any faster in a straight line.... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> > Use 12.90's because of one game? Bollocks. > Each to his own priorities I guess! > Iain Hands up who got a Hercules Thriller *purely* for GPL?

This goes a bit OT now but nevermind. I had my probs too when switching on the FF. But few hours later you cannot race without anymore. FF gives you one more 'input-dimension', which is highly appreciated, since we don't rub our butts over the tarmac in real <a great input-dimension too> Especially in longer races FF is extremely important, since it decreases tire-overheating tremendously. John, about the pedals: Check out my webpage, pedal-section. I converted the pedals (with a bit of experience a 10 minutes job) to 'pressure sensitive brakes'. Pedal travel is no more issue, you simply jump on the brake-pedal and where the mechanical resistance starts, also the tire-squeeling starts. Works really nicely :-) Cya JensSchumi On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 23:28:41 -0500, "John Cauthen" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>It seems like many of the top drivers aren't impressed with force feedback. >I'm merely an average racer, but I can see proof of a performance improvment >with force feedback. Beyond that I just enjoy the added sensual dimension >"good" force feedback provides. I share your sentiments on the LWFF pedals, >however, I've learned to live with them. I know I could do a lot better. > >I know a guy who had married a set of CH Pro pedals with his cable driven >LWFF wheel. That seems to be the best solution I'd seen to date... at least >for someone who likes force feedback. > >The comment I made was not to suggest that everyone uses force feedback, >rather I was just pointing out that EA Sports lost a significant number of >potential buyers for the "out of the box" product. > >John Cauthen

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"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 07:36:27 -0500, "STP" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Doesn't Agent work under XP?? I don't wanna downgrade to Outlook when > I upgrade to XP (in a year or two that is) > > Andre Yea, Agent works fine under XP. Just giving the latest version of OE a trial run.