Re: Aliens VS Pabst

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> Hi Tom, > > So far I found a couple of guys willingly to join the Ring race. > Here's the lineup so far, along with a short introduction: > > - Greger Huttu (well.. you heard of him I hope :) > > - Luke Mclean (oy, he's number 3 on GPLRank) > > - Andreas Wilke (7th, not 100% sure he will join though) > > - David Powell (easy to win from him, he's only 19th on GPLRank) > > - Marc Royal (easy too, nr. 21 on that meaningless GPLRank) > > - Niels Heusinkveld (nr. 27, and he's only average on the Ring with a > 7.51 pb) > > - Jan Verschueren (not as fast as Huttu but he knows how to finish > those full distance races) > > - Eldred Pickett (he has a handicap of 0 in the St.Eldred Cup) > > - And me. I'm err.. 416th on GPLRank (oh man this is depressing) but > since I'm not an Alien, I'm bound to win this race, right :) > > I asked Greg Stewart, number 2 on GPLRank, but his answer was (and he > allowed me to quote) > " I really wouldnt like to give him the satisfaction that we even > think he would have a chance in a month of sundays" > > Before I contact some more people, please let me know if the race is > still on. > > Andre

Oh boy - I REALLY wanna see a replay of this when it's done :D Doug

Hi Tom, So far I found a couple of guys willingly to join the Ring race. Here's the lineup so far, along with a short introduction: - Greger Huttu (well.. you heard of him I hope :) - Luke Mclean (oy, he's number 3 on GPLRank) - Andreas Wilke (7th, not 100% sure he will join though) - David Powell (easy to win from him, he's only 19th on GPLRank) - Marc Royal (easy too, nr. 21 on that meaningless GPLRank) - Niels Heusinkveld (nr. 27, and he's only average on the Ring with a 7.51 pb) - Jan Verschueren (not as fast as Huttu but he knows how to finish those full distance races) - Eldred Pickett (he has a handicap of 0 in the St.Eldred Cup) - And me. I'm err.. 416th on GPLRank (oh man this is depressing) but since I'm not an Alien, I'm bound to win this race, right :) I asked Greg Stewart, number 2 on GPLRank, but his answer was (and he allowed me to quote) " I really wouldnt like to give him the satisfaction that we even think he would have a chance in a month of sundays" Before I contact some more people, please let me know if the race is still on. Andre

On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:04:55 -0000, "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Oh boy - I REALLY wanna see a replay of this when it's done :D > >Doug Well, there are still spots open - join us by all means :) PS anybody got Wolfgang Woegers email addy for me? Andre

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse news:[email hidden]... > Hi Tom, > > So far I found a couple of guys willingly to join the Ring race. > Here's the lineup so far, along with a short introduction: ><Snip Aliens!>>

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> - Jan Verschueren (not as fast as Huttu but he knows how to finish > those full distance races) > > - Eldred Pickett (he has a handicap of 0 in the St.Eldred Cup) > > - And me. I'm err.. 416th on GPLRank (oh man this is depressing) but > since I'm not an Alien, I'm bound to win this race, right :) >

Okay, 15 laps @ sub 8 mins for the Aliens. JV & StE doing 8:30s. I can just picture it: Trying to avoid getting lapped near the end, Eldred takes out the leader at Tiergarten. They both try to get their 3-wheeled cars rolling again and the rest of the alien field is caught in the wreck. Wheels & bodies everywhere. None of them are able to continue and 8� minutes later, the Cooper driven by Jan crosses the finish line in triumph! "But wait, what about Andr�?" I hear you ask. Well, he fell asleep before the start and never showed up. He was nicely rested after the race, though. /Jens

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> Hi Tom, > > So far I found a couple of guys willingly to join the Ring race. > Here's the lineup so far, along with a short introduction: > > - Greger Huttu (well.. you heard of him I hope :) > > - Luke Mclean (oy, he's number 3 on GPLRank) > > - Andreas Wilke (7th, not 100% sure he will join though) > > - David Powell (easy to win from him, he's only 19th on GPLRank) > > - Marc Royal (easy too, nr. 21 on that meaningless GPLRank) > > - Niels Heusinkveld (nr. 27, and he's only average on the Ring with a > 7.51 pb) > > - Jan Verschueren (not as fast as Huttu but he knows how to finish > those full distance races) > > - Eldred Pickett (he has a handicap of 0 in the St.Eldred Cup) > > - And me. I'm err.. 416th on GPLRank (oh man this is depressing) but > since I'm not an Alien, I'm bound to win this race, right :) > > I asked Greg Stewart, number 2 on GPLRank, but his answer was (and he > allowed me to quote) > " I really wouldnt like to give him the satisfaction that we even > think he would have a chance in a month of sundays" > > Before I contact some more people, please let me know if the race is > still on.

MEMEMEME, ohpleasechoosemeMEME. Uh, if you are really short of drivers, I might consider joining. Not really alien, but I'm famous on the Internet for being able to put people to sleep with my dazzling driving skills and extraordinary car control. Or something. -- -asbjxrn

On 07 Nov 2001 13:04:13 +0100, [email hidden] (Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad) wrote:

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>MEMEMEME, ohpleasechoosemeMEME. > >Uh, if you are really short of drivers, I might consider joining. >Not really alien, but I'm famous on the Internet for being able to put >people to sleep with my dazzling driving skills and extraordinary car >control. Or something. >-- > -asbjxrn

No, it's ok.. I think Huttu and the other Aliens will keep me awake for a while :) Tom, if you want to bring some friends to the race, that's cool too. How about David 'practice is for sissies' Fisher? ;) Andre

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> > On 07 Nov 2001 13:04:13 +0100, [email hidden] (Asbj�rn > Bj�rnstad) wrote: > > >MEMEMEME, ohpleasechoosemeMEME. > > > >Uh, if you are really short of drivers, I might consider joining. > >Not really alien, but I'm famous on the Internet for being able to put > >people to sleep with my dazzling driving skills and extraordinary car > >control. Or something. > >-- > > -asbjxrn > > No, it's ok.. I think Huttu and the other Aliens will keep me awake > for a while :) > > Tom, if you want to bring some friends to the race, that's cool too. > How about David 'practice is for sissies' Fisher? ;)

This is still not with N4 right ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > PS anybody got Wolfgang Woegers email addy for me? > > Andre [email hidden]

would have a chance in a month of sundays"

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>> >> Before I contact some more people, please let me know if the race is >> still on. >> >> Andre > >Oh boy - I REALLY wanna see a replay of this when it's done :D > >Doug > >

yeah . someone should get together the best drivers more often. some sort of champions league or some shit cheers Rich

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> would have a chance in a month of sundays" > >> > >> Before I contact some more people, please let me know if the race is > >> still on. > >> > >> Andre > > > >Oh boy - I REALLY wanna see a replay of this when it's done :D > > > >Doug > > > > > > > yeah . someone should get together the best drivers more often. some > sort of champions league or some shit

You'll now have about 4 league admins going "But we do have the best drivers.........dont we?" You're right - a champion of champions would be a cracking race. Doug

Andre, isnt he still immersed in 'beta testing' MsPacManette 2002? and he was offered to race other times with Eldred hosting and he never showed his puss. blah, blah, blah. "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | How about David 'practice is for sissies' Fisher? ;) | | Andre

Oops! Shouldn't you put a NOSPAM in that or something? Wouldn't want him to start getting junk email :( Colin Harris wrote:

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> > Wolfgang Woeger's email addy was 'ere > > > > >

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> On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:04:55 -0000, "Douglas Ellison" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Oh boy - I REALLY wanna see a replay of this when it's done :D > > > >Doug > > Well, there are still spots open - join us by all means :) > > PS anybody got Wolfgang Woegers email addy for me? >

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"Thom j." wrote: > > Andre, isnt he still immersed in 'beta testing' MsPacManette 2002? No, he actually disappeared up his own arsehole. Apparently he was walking along the street when it happened. Passers by heard his terrified screams but there was nothing they could do to help. The police were quickly on the scene, but after interviewing witnesses they conceded that there was nothing they could do either. Stg Steve Leamington Spa III of the Betatestersville Co. Sheriff's Department made this statement, "We've examined the scene but thus far all we've discovered is one pubic hair! And we're not even sure if it belonged to Mr Fisher. All I can say at this stage is we're keeping an open mind." Eye witness Larry GP Legend Jr had this to say when interviewed at the scene by reporters, "Poor guy, He was just walking along when all of a sudden he just started to disappear up his own asshole - terrible way to go, man!" Should we have a RAS silent tribute? Other strange reports are filtering through the worlds news media: This time of a top, as yet unnamed, Winston Cup Driver who has been seen walking around with Tom Pobst's feet hanging out the back of his arse. Typical of Tom, he couldn't disappear up his own arsehole, he had to use someone else's <g>. Gerry

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> > > "Thom j." wrote: > > > > Andre, isnt he still immersed in 'beta testing' MsPacManette 2002? > > No, he actually disappeared up his own arsehole. Apparently he was > walking along the street when it happened. Passers by heard his > terrified screams but there was nothing they could do to help. >

<snip great shtuff> > > Gerry > Holy jeabus! Thanks for the good laugh! MRSisson -- LOAD "GPL",8,1 RUN

Man I am not sure if I would want to show up with that line up. I would have a better chance facing a firing sqaud and living then beating anyone in that group. It really has me wondering what Mr. Tom is thinking now. Still writing checks you body cannot cash? Dave Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hi Tom, > > So far I found a couple of guys willingly to join the Ring race. > Here's the lineup so far, along with a short introduction: > > - Greger Huttu (well.. you heard of him I hope :) > > - Luke Mclean (oy, he's number 3 on GPLRank) > > - Andreas Wilke (7th, not 100% sure he will join though) > > - David Powell (easy to win from him, he's only 19th on GPLRank) > > - Marc Royal (easy too, nr. 21 on that meaningless GPLRank) > > - Niels Heusinkveld (nr. 27, and he's only average on the Ring with a > 7.51 pb) > > - Jan Verschueren (not as fast as Huttu but he knows how to finish > those full distance races) > > - Eldred Pickett (he has a handicap of 0 in the St.Eldred Cup) > > - And me. I'm err.. 416th on GPLRank (oh man this is depressing) but > since I'm not an Alien, I'm bound to win this race, right :) > > I asked Greg Stewart, number 2 on GPLRank, but his answer was (and he > allowed me to quote) > " I really wouldnt like to give him the satisfaction that we even > think he would have a chance in a month of sundays" > > Before I contact some more people, please let me know if the race is > still on. > > Andre > > > > >

OMG Gerry this is beyond too funny!! I am roarin' & almost pee'ed myself laughing..haha SNL needs you as a writer! :o)~ "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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| | | "Thom j." wrote: | > | > Andre, isnt he still immersed in 'beta testing' MsPacManette 2002? | | No, he actually disappeared up his own arsehole. Apparently he was | walking along the street when it happened. Passers by heard his | terrified screams but there was nothing they could do to help. | | The police were quickly on the scene, but after interviewing witnesses | they conceded that there was nothing they could do either. | | Stg Steve Leamington Spa III of the Betatestersville Co. Sheriff's | Department made this statement, "We've examined the scene but thus far | all we've discovered is one pubic hair! And we're not even sure if it | belonged to Mr Fisher. All I can say at this stage is we're keeping an | open mind." | | Eye witness Larry GP Legend Jr had this to say when interviewed at the | scene by reporters, "Poor guy, He was just walking along when all of a | sudden he just started to disappear up his own asshole - terrible way to | go, man!" | | Should we have a RAS silent tribute? | | Other strange reports are filtering through the worlds news media: This | time of a top, as yet unnamed, Winston Cup Driver who has been seen | walking around with Tom Pobst's feet hanging out the back of his arse. | | Typical of Tom, he couldn't disappear up his own arsehole, he had to use | someone else's <g>. | | Gerry

>"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > This is still not with N4 right ? Hehe, I still have this promise of a sub-9 minute laps at the Ring with a stockcar... -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

In article <wIjG7.14223$[email hidden]>, "DAVID J ROBINSON" <robinsonspamfamily@prodig.> writes:

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>Man I am not sure if I would want to show up with that line up. I would >have a better chance facing a firing sqaud and living then beating anyone in >that group. > >It really has me wondering what Mr. Tom is thinking now. Still writing >checks you body cannot cash? > >Dave >Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> - Eldred Pickett (he has a handicap of 0 in the St.Eldred Cup) >>

Hehe... I know I couldn't beat Greger, but maybe I could learn something from him. I wouldn't worry about beating Tom, though... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Poor Tom. Let it go now, guys.

Rob Swindells wrote: > > Poor Tom. Let it go now, guys. Pah!

On 08 Nov 2001 04:09:57 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >Hehe... I know I couldn't beat Greger, but maybe I could learn something from >him. I wouldn't worry about beating Tom, though... > >Eldred Now what did Jan and I try to teach you? Think positive! You CAN beat Greger! Easily! Andre PS Don't got too far in this positive thinking, don't convince yourself you can ever beat me :)

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>Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >GPLRank - under construction... > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I like the whole defamation angle here. "The honorable Prime Minister is an embezzler and a sexual deviant..." "The hotlappers cheat their times and don't race cleanly..." I definitely see the equivalence, and can fully understand the lynch-mob mentality. :-) Rob Swindells <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Poor Tom. Let it go now, guys. >

ymenard wrote: > > >"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > > This is still not with N4 right ? > > Hehe, I still have this promise of a sub-9 minute laps at the Ring with a > stockcar... Well, that promise was made back when we thought it would be possible to convert the Ring to N3, most GPL tracks can be driven within a couple of seconds of the best GPL time with an N3 car You'll never see me do a sub 9 min lap at the Ring though, pretty much retired from sim racing now, the upcoming BR1000 race this coming weekend could well be my last online race as I no longer feel the urge to sit down and race, been good fun though, met a lot of great people and made some friends, I'd say I got a lot out of my simracing..... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

What's this "BRD buisness" Tom is involved in? Stephen Ferguson wrote:

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> > I like the whole defamation angle here. > > "The honorable Prime Minister is an embezzler and a sexual deviant..." > "The hotlappers cheat their times and don't race cleanly..." > > I definitely see the equivalence, and can fully understand the lynch-mob > mentality. :-) > > Rob Swindells <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Poor Tom. Let it go now, guys. > >

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> "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > yeah . someone should get together the best drivers more often. some > > sort of champions league or some shit > > You'll now have about 4 league admins going "But we do have the best > drivers.........dont we?" > > You're right - a champion of champions would be a cracking race.

Isn't MoG our own equivalent of the Championsleague? -- Imar de Vries - [email hidden] - ICQ 6972439

On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 12:46:10 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote: >You'll never see me do a sub 9 min lap at the Ring though, pretty much >retired from sim racing now, the upcoming BR1000 race this coming >weekend could well be my last online race as I no longer feel the urge >to sit down and race, been good fun though, met a lot of great people >and made some friends, I'd say I got a lot out of my simracing..... Wow.. I can imagine you get tired of a particulair sim (and even I had my I'm-tired-of-GPL moments) but tired of sim-racing in general? In my view that's the same as someone saying he's tired of listening to music.. Andre

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> On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 12:46:10 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >You'll never see me do a sub 9 min lap at the Ring though, pretty much > >retired from sim racing now, the upcoming BR1000 race this coming > >weekend could well be my last online race as I no longer feel the urge > >to sit down and race, been good fun though, met a lot of great people > >and made some friends, I'd say I got a lot out of my simracing..... > > Wow.. I can imagine you get tired of a particulair sim (and even I had > my I'm-tired-of-GPL moments) but tired of sim-racing in general? > In my view that's the same as someone saying he's tired of listening > to music..

Actually, the monaco IGPLC race coming up on sunday will be my first online race since mid august or something. I'm so looking forward to get my new computer stuff today or tomorrow to put the spark into simracing again. Oh, and Rally Trophy. And it is perfectly possible to get tired of listening to music too. Interests come and go. -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 22:19:46 -0500, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Hehe, I still have this promise of a sub-9 minute laps at the Ring with a >stockcar... Whahaha! No sir! You said you could do a sub 8 lap! Remco

I actually find it quite understandable as I fully understand how Goy feels. Only recently, with the launch of OLR, have I had any kind of urge to sim race on a regular basis. Don't get me wrong, I still love GPL and a few other simes, but the true enthusiasm I once had has been eaten away gradually with the demise of TEN, and a host of very suspect, at best, sim releases. Scott PA-Scott "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 12:46:10 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >You'll never see me do a sub 9 min lap at the Ring though, pretty much > >retired from sim racing now, the upcoming BR1000 race this coming > >weekend could well be my last online race as I no longer feel the urge > >to sit down and race, been good fun though, met a lot of great people > >and made some friends, I'd say I got a lot out of my simracing..... > > Wow.. I can imagine you get tired of a particulair sim (and even I had > my I'm-tired-of-GPL moments) but tired of sim-racing in general? > In my view that's the same as someone saying he's tired of listening > to music.. > > Andre > > > > >Beers and cheers > >(uncle) Goy > > > >"The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > > >* Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > >"Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com >

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> > I actually find it quite understandable as I fully understand how Goy feels. > Only recently, with the launch of OLR, have I had any kind of urge to sim > race on a regular basis. Don't get me wrong, I still love GPL and a few > other simes, but the true enthusiasm I once had has been eaten away > gradually with the demise of TEN, and a host of very suspect, at best, sim > releases.

Well, my problem is a combination of several things in fact I've been simracing for 10 years or something, ever since GP1/WorldCicuit was released on the Atari ST, I work with computers for a living, up until now there hasn't really been a central place to race since TEN died and last but not least, none of the current sims represent a racing series that hold much interest for me The only thing that looks sort of promising are the HEAT mods, such as the DTM and I believe someone is working on an AussieV8 series as well, but what else is there when you look at it, if you're not into F1 that is GPL, well, yeah it's good, but I'm not really interested N4, can't seem to warm up to it, and oval racing is boring STCC 1/2, uh, well, not too bad, but a bit "light" perhaps SCGT, too old WSC, no interest whatsoever Various modern F1 sims, see above Various modern rally sims, see above Rally Trophy, this one I might install when it comes out actually MCO, did some OpenBeta testing, fun for a while HEAT, oval racing is boring :-) DTR, oval racing is boring on dirt as well :-) HEAT mods, *could* be good, still in it's infancy and doesn't have widespread support yet, but it's one of the few reasons I stick around, MP is a bit of an issue though I've probably missed something, but basically, I find little of interest in the current crop of sims, so when an old friend of mine wants us to rent part of an old barn and start working on our road cars again, take them to the local track days and such, I think I'd rather do that to be honest, with a bit of luck and lots of hard work, there may be two fairly quick Opel Manta's looking for some M3's and Sierra Cossies to embarrass next summer....:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 17:16:27 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip> I never raced on TEN, but that was a network for Nascar racing right? If you liked that so much, then why don't you like N4? Not interested in GPL, not in N4, not in WSC.. boy you're a tough simracer to satisfy ;) But seriously, what kind of sim would you like to see then that would bring your interest in simracing back?

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>I've probably missed something, but basically, I find little of interest >in the current crop of sims, so when an old friend of mine wants us to >rent part of an old barn and start working on our road cars again, take >them to the local track days and such, I think I'd rather do that to be >honest, with a bit of luck and lots of hard work, there may be two >fairly quick Opel Manta's looking for some M3's and Sierra Cossies to >embarrass next summer....:-)

Opel Manta's.. jeez, those cars are simply WRONG :) Andre

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> > On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 17:16:27 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote: > > <snip> > I never raced on TEN, but that was a network for Nascar racing right? > If you liked that so much, then why don't you like N4? > Not interested in GPL, not in N4, not in WSC.. > boy you're a tough simracer to satisfy ;) > But seriously, what kind of sim would you like to see then that would > bring your interest in simracing back? > > >I've probably missed something, but basically, I find little of interest > >in the current crop of sims, so when an old friend of mine wants us to > >rent part of an old barn and start working on our road cars again, take > >them to the local track days and such, I think I'd rather do that to be > >honest, with a bit of luck and lots of hard work, there may be two > >fairly quick Opel Manta's looking for some M3's and Sierra Cossies to > >embarrass next summer....:-) > > Opel Manta's.. jeez, those cars are simply WRONG :)

Depends.......:-) One is a genuine "400", the other one is a "slightly" modified GSi with a 2.7 liter Mantzel engine, fun, fairly fast and not too expensive to maintain/modify, unless you break something in the engine on the "400" of course, those special "400" parts costs a small fortune Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Not to mention, I imagine, shifting priorities. I have come and go here since '93. I still like a quick offline session in my few choice sims, and the occasional online fix, but the demands on my time are a lot different than they were 8 years ago when I would run whole GP1 seasons in a weekend. Stephen Scott B. Husted <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:olxG7.6004$[email hidden]... > I actually find it quite understandable as I fully understand how Goyfeels.

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> Only recently, with the launch of OLR, have I had any kind of urge to sim > race on a regular basis. Don't get me wrong, I still love GPL and a few > other simes, but the true enthusiasm I once had has been eaten away > gradually with the demise of TEN, and a host of very suspect, at best, sim > releases. > > Scott > PA-Scott > > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 12:46:10 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >You'll never see me do a sub 9 min lap at the Ring though, pretty much > > >retired from sim racing now, the upcoming BR1000 race this coming > > >weekend could well be my last online race as I no longer feel the urge > > >to sit down and race, been good fun though, met a lot of great people > > >and made some friends, I'd say I got a lot out of my simracing..... > > > > Wow.. I can imagine you get tired of a particulair sim (and even I had > > my I'm-tired-of-GPL moments) but tired of sim-racing in general? > > In my view that's the same as someone saying he's tired of listening > > to music.. > > > > Andre > > > > > > > >Beers and cheers > > >(uncle) Goy > > > > > >"The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > > > > >* Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > > >"Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com > > > >

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: >Tom, if you want to bring some friends to the race, that's cool too. >How about David 'practice is for sissies' Fisher? ;) > David didn't even show up at the GP race he SAID he would... :( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <yj9G7.5802$[email hidden]>, "Jens H. Kruuse" <[email hidden]> writes: >Okay, 15 laps @ sub 8 mins for the Aliens. JV & StE doing 8:30s. I can just >picture it: Trying to avoid getting lapped near the end, Eldred takes out >the leader at Tiergarten Heyy!! I'm not THAT bad... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Yeah..Tom is a good guy. cut him some slack :o) DC Rob Swindells <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Poor Tom. Let it go now, guys. >

>"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > Well, that promise was made back when we thought it would be possible to > convert the Ring to N3, most GPL tracks can be driven within a couple of > seconds of the best GPL time with an N3 car Yes LOL you sure do remember ;-) I know I probably won't be able with N4. Sure it's more realistic, but hey after 5 years of driving the old game engine (1994's N1 to N3), most of us could do anything on road course with those cars, we had mastered them perfectly. Every feedback on screen was easily understood and applied the correct treatment by our wheel/pedals. > You'll never see me do a sub 9 min lap at the Ring though, pretty much > retired from sim racing now, the upcoming BR1000 race this coming > weekend could well be my last online race as I no longer feel the urge > to sit down and race, been good fun though, met a lot of great people > and made some friends, I'd say I got a lot out of my simracing..... Sorry to hear that :-( GPL2 will bring you back ;-) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"Remco Moedt" <[email hidden]> wrote > No sir! You said you could do a sub 8 lap! Really, I said sub 8 minute lap? <google search> ... nice quote by me found in 1999 : "It's not because it's unrealistic thatn it's not difficult" ... wow I wrote so much babbling and non-sense back then ... You reminded me in November of 1999 that I claimed to do the Ring below 8 minutes eh ... From: ymenard ([email hidden]) Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Date: 1999/02/13 [...] But shoot me a Stock-car at the Ring and I can put you a sub-8minute lap ;-) LOL ouch I will dissapoint people in saying it's probably impossible for me to do that, but you caught me well, I said 8 (ouch) minutes -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Frank, I will just acknowledge your posting this. No comment needed. :-) Pete "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FbGG7.16399$[email hidden]...

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>"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote > I never raced on TEN, but that was a network for Nascar racing right? > If you liked that so much, then why don't you like N4? The NROS was much more then just racing. It was a true community :) > Not interested in GPL, not in N4, not in WSC.. > boy you're a tough simracer to satisfy ;) Yeah, I just don't understand why Goy wouldn't like WSC, considering it's almost an open-source sim. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

lol ymenard... :) You got to be careful ...eh? Especially when my man Remco is on watch! Hey Rem, long time no chat..eh? Cheers Thom_j. "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FbGG7.16399$[email hidden]...

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| >"Remco Moedt" <[email hidden]> wrote | > No sir! You said you could do a sub 8 lap! | | | Really, I said sub 8 minute lap? | | <google search> | ... | nice quote by me found in 1999 : "It's not because it's unrealistic thatn | it's not difficult" | ... | wow I wrote so much babbling and non-sense back then | ... | You reminded me in November of 1999 that I claimed to do the Ring below 8 | minutes eh | ... | | From: ymenard ([email hidden]) | Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators | Date: 1999/02/13 | | | [...] But shoot me a Stock-car at the Ring and I can put you a sub-8minute | lap ;-) | | | | LOL ouch I will dissapoint people in saying it's probably impossible for

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Hey! Pick me! Pick me! I'll represent the slow but steady end of the argument. -- "Racing! - Science for the action minded." mark "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi Tom, > > So far I found a couple of guys willingly to join the Ring race. > Here's the lineup so far, along with a short introduction: > > - Greger Huttu (well.. you heard of him I hope :) > > - Luke Mclean (oy, he's number 3 on GPLRank) > > - Andreas Wilke (7th, not 100% sure he will join though) > > - David Powell (easy to win from him, he's only 19th on GPLRank) > > - Marc Royal (easy too, nr. 21 on that meaningless GPLRank) > > - Niels Heusinkveld (nr. 27, and he's only average on the Ring with a > 7.51 pb) > > - Jan Verschueren (not as fast as Huttu but he knows how to finish > those full distance races) > > - Eldred Pickett (he has a handicap of 0 in the St.Eldred Cup) > > - And me. I'm err.. 416th on GPLRank (oh man this is depressing) but > since I'm not an Alien, I'm bound to win this race, right :) > > I asked Greg Stewart, number 2 on GPLRank, but his answer was (and he > allowed me to quote) > " I really wouldnt like to give him the satisfaction that we even > think he would have a chance in a month of sundays" > > Before I contact some more people, please let me know if the race is > still on. > > Andre > > > > >

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> > On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 17:16:27 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote: > > <snip> > I never raced on TEN, but that was a network for Nascar racing right? > If you liked that so much, then why don't you like N4? > Not interested in GPL, not in N4, not in WSC.. > boy you're a tough simracer to satisfy ;) > But seriously, what kind of sim would you like to see then that would > bring your interest in simracing back?

Ooops, missed this part the first time around... TEN was more than a place to race N2, it was a place to meet people, hang out and then race if you could gather a nice crowd, at it's best it was pretty incredible, at it's worst it was very frustrating, but I'll remember it as a positive experience and a place where I got to know some really nice people, much in the same way that the GPL enthusiasts think of the VROC community I guess, but I never really warmed to Nascar racing, which is why I jumped at every chance to race at WG or SP, skilled or unskilled races, but it was the "community" thing that hold the most appeal to me, that and the fact that all the servers was located in one place, so if you managed to optimize your connection to that place, you were set As for sim, I guess I'd like to see a full blown touring car sim of some sorts, AussieV8's preferably, but I'll settle for DTM, BTCC/STCC or Trans-Am, the less high tech the better and the Aussie series would suit me just fine, and a historic touring car sim would be bliss, or maybe a historic sports car sim with Aston Martin DB's, Jaguar E-types and that sort of thing....... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 04:32:27 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hey Rem, long time no chat..eh? Cheers Thom_j. Hey Thom! This timezone thingy, eh... Remco

You, Andre, and Thom have proved how much damage too much GPL can do to a tiny mind. For anyone who's life is so boring that they actually want an explanation for this........one day Eldred announced he was hosting a GPL online race. I replied with an "I'll be there!". Anyone who's familiar with me (even a little) here would know that was an obviously sarcastic, joking reply. I haven't even had the game installed on my computer for probably two years. Nice try guys. I'm sure you fooled at least two or three r.a.s. visitors. Getting kind of desperate though, aren't you? David G Fisher P.S. This whole Tom P. versus "the gang" on the track is really silly and juvenile. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > > >Tom, if you want to bring some friends to the race, that's cool too. > >How about David 'practice is for sissies' Fisher? ;) > > > > David didn't even show up at the GP race he SAID he would... :( > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

That's why it's "fun" David. If you're not carefull, people might start thinking you're taking this gaming business seriously.<g> Seriously, the way in which Tom decided to present his argument justifies every bit of piss-taking he receives IMO. Besides, regardless of whether Tom takes up the challenge or not, I'd like to see this race go ahead. It's not every day one gets a chance to see the masters practise their craft live and first hand. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "David G Fisher" wrote... > <snip> > P.S. This whole Tom P. versus "the gang" on the track is really > silly and juvenile.

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>You, Andre, and Thom have proved how much damage too much GPL can do to a >tiny mind. > >For anyone who's life is so boring that they actually want an explanation >for this........one day Eldred announced he was hosting a GPL online race. I >replied with an "I'll be there!". > >Anyone who's familiar with me (even a little) here would know that was an >obviously sarcastic, joking reply. I haven't even had the game installed on >my computer for probably two years. > >Nice try guys. I'm sure you fooled at least two or three r.a.s. visitors. >Getting kind of desperate though, aren't you?

Whatever.... Even though I didn't really think you'd show, I *hoped* you'd be there. I simply wanted to see if I could keep up with you. Spirit of competition, and all that. But hey - if you didn't show, you didn't show. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

You would destroy me. No doubt about that. It would of been ridiculous for me to try and race with you guys. David G Fisher "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <PmXG7.195496$[email hidden]>, "David GFisher"

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> all that. But hey - if you didn't show, you didn't show. > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <G50H7.195735$[email hidden]>, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: >You would destroy me. No doubt about that. It would of been ridiculous for >me to try and race with you guys. So, what sim do you feel like you *have* enough hours in to be competitive? And, why/how does that one keep your interest? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Just a hoot Eldred! hahaha DGF just spews the same crap no matter how long anyone takes a break from r.a.s. but now it's truely funny to hear his "rhetoric babble" just drool out of his wittle keyboard!! What an azz!! :) "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | In article <PmXG7.195496$[email hidden]>, "David GFisher"

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you | with experience... | Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I havent been doing much racing Rem, I've been mostly working on my musical techniques and writing skills but its the same ole sheee'it here...eh? :) "Remco Moedt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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| On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 04:32:27 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> | wrote: | | >Hey Rem, long time no chat..eh? Cheers Thom_j. | | Hey Thom! | | This timezone thingy, eh... | | | Remco |

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > Anyone who's familiar with me (even a little) here would know that was an > obviously sarcastic, joking reply. No, anyone who's familiar with your trolling in this NG would know that it wasn't. > I haven't even had the game installed on my computer for probably twoyears. Ah, more proof that you cannot anymore have a rationale position on the whole "GPL community", because you clearly are not part of it, nor can you have an external look at the situation, which of course includes this NG. > P.S. This whole Tom P. versus "the gang" on the track is really silly and > juvenile. Like you have anything interesting to add anyway... -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote > That's why it's "fun" David. If you're not carefull, people might start > thinking you're taking this gaming business seriously.<g> Yep It's pretty hypocrite. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Thom, Why don't you shut the f**k up? David G Fisher "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Xf3H7.197895$[email hidden]...

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> Just a hoot Eldred! hahaha DGF just spews the same crap no > matter how long anyone takes a break from r.a.s. but now it's > truely funny to hear his "rhetoric babble" just drool out of his > wittle keyboard!! What an azz!! :) > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > | In article <PmXG7.195496$[email hidden]>, "David G > Fisher" > | <[email hidden]> writes: > | > | >You, Andre, and Thom have proved how much damage too much GPL can do to

a > | >tiny mind. > | > > | >For anyone who's life is so boring that they actually want anexplanation > | >for this........one day Eldred announced he was hosting a GPL online > race. I > | >replied with an "I'll be there!". > | > > | >Anyone who's familiar with me (even a little) here would know that wasan > | >obviously sarcastic, joking reply. I haven't even had the gameinstalled > on > | >my computer for probably two years. > | > > | >Nice try guys. I'm sure you fooled at least two or three r.a.s.visitors. > | >Getting kind of desperate though, aren't you? > | > | Whatever.... > | Even though I didn't really think you'd show, I *hoped* you'd be there.I > | simply wanted to see if I could keep up with you. Spirit ofcompetition,

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> and > | all that. But hey - if you didn't show, you didn't show. > | > | Eldred > | -- > | Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > | Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > | GPLRank - under construction... > | > | Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > | with experience... > | Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > >

<big fat yawn> David G Fisher "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ii6H7.21851$[email hidden]... > >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Anyone who's familiar with me (even a little) here would know that wasan

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"David G Fisher" wrote > Thom, > > Why don't you shut the f**k up? > > David G Fisher David, I didn't have a problem understanding that one... Tony

"David G Fisher" wrote David, I didn't have a problem understanding that one... Tony

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>In article <G50H7.195735$[email hidden]>, "David G Fisher" ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>You would destroy me. No doubt about that. It would of been ridiculous for >>me to try and race with you guys. > >So, what sim do you feel like you *have* enough hours in to be competitive? >And, why/how does that one keep your interest?

Before you start an argument with David, remember that sig of yours Eldred Andre >Eldred

You had the chance to make me but as usual you never showed your puss. Typical DGF Bullcrap. Fact is nobody knows you in the racing community & nobody cares.. Spew on baby Huey.. :) "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Wv6H7.199175$[email hidden]...

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Point, Set & Match Andre.. Touche` "Andre Warringa" wrote:

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>On 10 Nov 2001 03:53:50 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > >>In article <G50H7.195735$[email hidden]>, "David G >Fisher" >><[email hidden]> writes: >> >>>You would destroy me. No doubt about that. It would of been ridiculous for >>>me to try and race with you guys. >> >>So, what sim do you feel like you *have* enough hours in to be competitive? >>And, why/how does that one keep your interest? > >Before you start an argument with David, remember that sig of yours >Eldred >

Nope - I'm not arguing anymore. I won't change his mind, and he won't change mine. It's a waste of time on both sides. I just asked him a question. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, Andre Warringa > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >On 10 Nov 2001 03:53:50 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > > >>In article <G50H7.195735$[email hidden]>, "David G > >Fisher" > >><[email hidden]> writes: > >> > >>>You would destroy me. No doubt about that. It would of been ridiculous

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change > mine. It's a waste of time on both sides. I just asked him a question. > > Eldred > --Very good answer, President Clinton. ;-)

Andre, There's a pebble at the lesmos that you don't know about. After 4,879 laps there, I really shouldn't have to alert you to these things anymore. I don't want you to lose the "big race" because of that tiny little pebble. David G Fisher "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 10 Nov 2001 03:53:50 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > >In article <G50H7.195735$[email hidden]>, "David GFisher" > ><[email hidden]> writes: > > > >>You would destroy me. No doubt about that. It would of been ridiculousfor > >>me to try and race with you guys. > > > >So, what sim do you feel like you *have* enough hours in to becompetitive?

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F1RC kept my attention for this past spring and summer. I'm switching to F12001 now. I only have a couple of hours with it (new system finally allows me to play it), but it seems like it will be worth the effort if I can get the steering sorted out. F1RC2 (supposedly released in Dec.) could take me away from it though. I'll just have to wait and see how it plays. I'm going to buy RT too. Even if I had an unmilited number of tracks, I just don't see how anyone could want to drive the same handful of cars from the same sim for three years. Simple as that. David G Fisher "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <G50H7.195735$[email hidden]>, "David GFisher" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >You would destroy me. No doubt about that. It would of been ridiculousfor > >me to try and race with you guys. > > So, what sim do you feel like you *have* enough hours in to becompetitive?

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> And, why/how does that one keep your interest? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Online racing against like-minded people is fun. Simple as that. Different strokes... "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:d1gH7.200145$[email hidden]... > Even if I had an unmilited number of tracks, I just don't see how anyone > could want to drive the same handful of cars from the same sim for three > years. Simple as that.

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > <big fat yawn> Yep, it's the only thing you can rhetorically reply about what I posted. It would be too difficult for you to answer correctly, you aren't able to as usual... -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > Even if I had an unmilited number of tracks, I just don't see how anyone > could want to drive the same handful of cars from the same sim for three > years. Simple as that. My god, you must find living in our world totally impossible. Impossible to have challenges, to be entertained, or to set personal goals. Those real-life racing guys must find it boring to "drive the same handful of cars" all those years. What's the difference between going from F1RC to F12001 compared to a Lotus to a Ferrari? Absolutely nothing. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Gee ymenard, I always thought you could only put one azz in one car at a time but I guess since DGF is all azz he can handle more? :) "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZThH7.23343$[email hidden]...

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<even bigger and fatter yawn> "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SRhH7.23335$[email hidden]... > >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > <big fat yawn> > > > Yep, it's the only thing you can rhetorically reply about what I posted.It

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David G Fisher wrote: > > Even if I had an unmilited number of tracks, I just don't see how anyone > could want to drive the same handful of cars from the same sim for three > years. Simple as that. I'm sorry Dave, but isn't that like telling Eric Clapton that you can't understand why he keeps playing the guitar after all this time, that he should move on to another instrument ? If all we had was the original cars and tracks, then yes I could see your point, but with all the add ons and tracks that people can choose from now; I can certainly see why people are still enthusiastic over this sim, even if I'm not driving it anymore myself Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" --Groucho Marx--

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> > David G Fisher wrote: > > > > Even if I had an unmilited number of tracks, I just don't see how anyone > > could want to drive the same handful of cars from the same sim for three > > years. Simple as that. > > I'm sorry Dave, but isn't that like telling Eric Clapton that you can't > understand why he keeps playing the guitar after all this time, that he > should move on to another instrument ? > > If all we had was the original cars and tracks, then yes I could see > your point, but with all the add ons and tracks that people can choose > from now; I can certainly see why people are still enthusiastic over > this sim, even if I'm not driving it anymore myself

I suspect a case of Attention Deficit Disorder here for DGF. Can't concentrate for very long on any given task/subject matter, lest he get bored with it. BTW Goy-- you're not still typing with that same old *keyboard* after all these years are you? :-P -- Fester

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>F1RC kept my attention for this past spring and summer. I'm switching to >F12001 now. I only have a couple of hours with it (new system finally allows >me to play it), but it seems like it will be worth the effort if I can get >the steering sorted out. F1RC2 (supposedly released in Dec.) could take me >away from it though. I'll just have to wait and see how it plays. I'm going >to buy RT too. > >Even if I had an unmilited number of tracks, I just don't see how anyone >could want to drive the same handful of cars from the same sim for three >years. Simple as that.

That's fine, and I can appreciate that. You've found other sims that you like better, and moved on. But why do you feel the need to insult or demean people who feel differently? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Are you kidding me? You, Jan, and Andre accused me of not "showing" for a race. Thom and Gerry (not nearly as bright as the cartoon pair) followed with some insults. Andre threw in an "idiot" comment. Ymenard threw in his usual blather. Thom and Uncle Fester followed with some more crap. In the "RT Timing Sync Bug" thread, I only ESPONDED to an unprovoked insult from Alex. In other words, the same old group of fans of a particular sim did their same old routine, and then whine like five year olds at the response they get. David G Fisher "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <d1gH7.200145$[email hidden]>, "David GFisher" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >F1RC kept my attention for this past spring and summer. I'm switching to > >F12001 now. I only have a couple of hours with it (new system finallyallows > >me to play it), but it seems like it will be worth the effort if I canget > >the steering sorted out. F1RC2 (supposedly released in Dec.) could takeme > >away from it though. I'll just have to wait and see how it plays. I'mgoing

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> who feel differently? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Poor baby need a cwying towel now! Talk about whining! phew.. Nothing changes as DGF's wittle werld goes wound & wound! Too Funny!! hahahaha :)~ "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qaoH7.201508$[email hidden]... | Are you kidding me? | | You, Jan, and Andre accused me of not "showing" for a race. Thom and Gerry | (not nearly as bright as the cartoon pair) followed with some insults.Andre | threw in an "idiot" comment. Ymenard threw in his usual blather. Thom and | Uncle Fester followed with some more crap. | | In the "RT Timing Sync Bug" thread, I only ESPONDED to an unprovokedinsult

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| like | > better, and moved on. But why do you feel the need to insult or demean | people | > who feel differently? | > | > Eldred | > -- | > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 | > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett | > GPLRank - under construction... | > | > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats | you | > with experience... | > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. | |

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> > I suspect a case of Attention Deficit Disorder here for DGF. Can't > concentrate for very long on any given task/subject matter, lest he get > bored with it. > > BTW Goy-- you're not still typing with that same old *keyboard* after > all these years are you? :-P

<flips keyboard over to see when it was made> Gosh darn, Oct of 96, guess I better get it replaced then....:-), that's the trouble with these Keytronic keyboards, they last forever Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" --Groucho Marx--

"David G Fisher" wrote... > Are you kidding me? > > You, Jan, and Andre accused me of not "showing" for a race. So "I thought you were" and "I guess you couldn't" are accusations?? -Good to know. > Thom and Gerry (not nearly as bright as the cartoon pair) followed > with some insults. Andre threw in an "idiot" comment. Ymenard > threw in his usual blather. Thom and Uncle Fester followed with > some more crap. You don't like them, they don't like you. So be it. IMO your only options are to either avoid them (which is hard to do on a newsgroup) or learn to live with it. > In the "RT Timing Sync Bug" thread, I only ESPONDED to an > unprovoked insult from Alex. Not entirely unprovoked I think, but that's just a hunch on my part as to what Alex took offence to. See below. > In other words, the same old group of fans of a particular > sim did their same old routine, and then whine like five > year olds at the response they get. As I see it *you* took advantage of Pabsts post to spout your same old offensive theory about long time GPL racers and again faign suprise as it ruffles peoples feathers. I let that go before, but seeing as you now accuse me of putting you on the defensive for a couple of fairly innocent comments, I thought I'd bring it up. Besides, everyone here can expect to find him/herself at the receiving end of some stick at one time or another and your past dealings with the group make the probability of this happening even greater, so who's actually whining here? Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.

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> "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > That's fine, and I can appreciate that. You've found other sims that you > like better, and moved on. But why do you feel the need to insult or demean > people who feel differently? > > Eldred >David G Fisher wrote: > > Are you kidding me? > > You, Jan, and Andre accused me of not "showing" for a race. Thom and Gerry > (not nearly as bright as the cartoon pair) followed with some insults. Andre > threw in an "idiot" comment. Ymenard threw in his usual blather. Thom and > Uncle Fester followed with some more crap. > > In the "RT Timing Sync Bug" thread, I only ESPONDED to an unprovoked insult > from Alex. > > In other words, the same old group of fans of a particular sim did their > same old routine, and then whine like five year olds at the response they > get. > > David G Fisher

Holy cow, the man should be a politician. A three paragraph reply to Eldred's simple question, yet no real answer therein. -- Fester

On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 20:23:37 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote some usual crap: >Even if I had an unmilited number of tracks, I just don't see how anyone >could want to drive the same handful of cars from the same sim for three >years. Simple as that. > >David G Fisher To get back to your stupid music comparisson, I play the same guitar for 10 years now. Still not geting boring. Allthough my neighbours think otherwise. Andre

On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:39:34 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote more crap: >Are you kidding me? > >You, Jan, and Andre accused me of not "showing" for a race. I did? Can't remember that actually. Still think you're a sissy though. >Thom and Gerry >(not nearly as bright as the cartoon pair) followed with some insults. Andre >threw in an "idiot" comment. I did that too?? Oh well.. can't be bothered looking that up on google since I do think you make some idiotic statements. >Ymenard threw in his usual blather. Thom and >Uncle Fester followed with some more crap.<snip rest of crap> Andre

On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:39:34 GMT, "David G Fisher" I did? Can't remember that actually. Still think you're a *** though. I did that too?? Oh well.. can't be bothered looking that up on google since I do think you make some idiotic statements. <snip rest of crap> Andre

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>Are you kidding me? > >You, Jan, and Andre accused me of not "showing" for a race. Thom and Gerry >(not nearly as bright as the cartoon pair) followed with some insults. Andre >threw in an "idiot" comment. Ymenard threw in his usual blather. Thom and >Uncle Fester followed with some more crap. > >In the "RT Timing Sync Bug" thread, I only ESPONDED to an unprovoked insult >from Alex. > >In other words, the same old group of fans of a particular sim did their >same old routine, and then whine like five year olds at the response they >get.

Well, you *didn't* show for the race. That's a fact, whether your statement that you'd show was a 'joke' or not. I'll admit that I don't remember the insult you said you got from Alex. Correct - I have seen a few umprovoked shots at you. But, 95% of the time, YOU'RE the one who initiates the insults. You'll jump into a GPL or NASCAR thread, toss a few putdowns/cheap shots, then bitch when people respond. Maybe your previous record is why people sometimes strike first. If you weren't so argumentative most of the time, maybe people wouldn't feel that need. Cause and effect, David... Your 'routine' is old, too. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I bet you've played the same song every day for the past 10 years too. David G Fisher "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > To get back to your stupid music comparisson, I play the same guitar > for 10 years now. Still not geting boring. Allthough my neighbours > think otherwise. > > Andre

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:39:34 GMT, "David G Fisher" > <[email hidden]> wrote more crap: > I did? Can't remember that actually. Still think you're a sissy > though. Ooooh. No, you are. > >Thom and Gerry > >(not nearly as bright as the cartoon pair) followed with some insults.Andre > >threw in an "idiot" comment. > > I did that too?? Oh well.. can't be bothered looking that up on google > since I do think you make some idiotic statements. You don't remember your reply to Eldred because your brain is tiny and doesn't work correctly. BTW, did you find that pebble at Monza yet? It's there at the lesmos. Just do another few undred laps (normal evening for you) and you'll see it eventually. David G Fisher

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > I bet you've played the same song every day for the past 10 years too. Yep, those guys preparing a full year for the Pike's Peak mountain climb must find it boring. Heck, it's the same bloody track each year! And the only way to win it is to hotlap your way up to the top. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

David G Fisher wrote: > > I bet you've played the same song every day for the past 10 years too. You sure have. :-)) -- Fester (Can't resist that big of an opening!)

I just went and checked the past four months of my postings in r.a.s. on google, and what you say is proven untrue. Almost every post by me is in an F1RC, F12001, or RT thread. If you don't believe me, here is the link with the posts sorted by date. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=rec.autos.simulators+David+G+Fisher&hl=en& sa=G&scoring=d David G Fisher "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <qaoH7.201508$[email hidden]>, "David GFisher" > <[email hidden]> writes: >> Correct - I have seen a few umprovoked shots at you. But, 95% of thetime, > YOU'RE the one who initiates the insults. You'll jump into a GPL orNASCAR > thread, toss a few putdowns/cheap shots, then bitch when people respond.Maybe > your previous record is why people sometimes strike first. If you weren'tso

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> argumentative most of the time, maybe people wouldn't feel that need. > Cause and effect, David... Your 'routine' is old, too. > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank - under construction... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Bingo! Eldred. You've hit the nail right on the head & DGF takes shots at everyone not in agreement with him for a long time. DGF unnecessarily instigates & then cries wolf. Old news, Really old! "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | Well, you *didn't* show for the race. That's a fact, whether yourstatement | that you'd show was a 'joke' or not. I'll admit that I don't remember the | insult you said you got from Alex. | Correct - I have seen a few umprovoked shots at you. But, 95% of thetime, | YOU'RE the one who initiates the insults. You'll jump into a GPL orNASCAR | thread, toss a few putdowns/cheap shots, then bitch when people respond.Maybe | your previous record is why people sometimes strike first. If you weren'tso

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| argumentative most of the time, maybe people wouldn't feel that need. | Cause and effect, David... Your 'routine' is old, too. | | Eldred | -- | Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 | Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett | GPLRank - under construction... | | Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you | with experience... | Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <QFGH7.208201$[email hidden]>, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: >I just went and checked the past four months of my postings in r.a.s. on >google, and what you say is proven untrue. Almost every post by me is in an >F1RC, F12001, or RT thread. > >If you don't believe me, here is the link with the posts sorted by date. > Ok, I stand corrected - based on that search, most of your posts are in the threads you mention above. It seems like you've responded more than that search shows, though. But, you still make unprovoked snide comments about people, which I won't waste bandwith on. And I was reminded that you never answered one of my questions: ********* Search Result 40 From: EldredP ([email hidden]) Subject: Re: This Isn't Going To Be Popular! Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Date: 2001-08-23 10:45:51 PST In article <iz%g7.126621$[email hidden]>, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: >> You seem to think that unless the accomplishment comes quickly, it isn'tworth >> mentioning. Why is that, David? > >It depends on the accomplishment. They aren't all the same. Hotlapping >charts/rankings don't tell me anything. They don't tell me the person is a >good sim driver, or that he's a bad sim driver.Why not? Someone who runs a 1:26 at Monza can certainly be considered a better driver than someone who can only run 1:40. It's an objective ranking. Even if you want to collect stats for race wins, pole positions, etc - that data changes arbitrarily. Someone might have 10 race wins, but he's only running against novices. Would you see him as a better sim driver than someone who finished last in a race of 'aliens'? Eldred ******************** -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>Ooooh. > >No, you are. > >> >Thom and Gerry >> >(not nearly as bright as the cartoon pair) followed with some insults. >Andre >> >threw in an "idiot" comment. >> >> I did that too?? Oh well.. can't be bothered looking that up on google >> since I do think you make some idiotic statements. > >You don't remember your reply to Eldred because your brain is tiny and >doesn't work correctly. > >BTW, did you find that pebble at Monza yet? It's there at the lesmos. Just >do another few undred laps (normal evening for you) and you'll see it >eventually. > >David G Fisher

Aah now I remember, I remembered Eldred about his own sig.. and I think by now Eldred understands why I warned him. Andre PS leave the jokes to Henrie, you suck at them.

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> On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 02:20:28 GMT, "David G Fisher" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Ooooh. > > > >No, you are. > > > >> >Thom and Gerry > >> >(not nearly as bright as the cartoon pair) followed with some insults. > >Andre > >> >threw in an "idiot" comment. > >> > >> I did that too?? Oh well.. can't be bothered looking that up on google > >> since I do think you make some idiotic statements. > > > >You don't remember your reply to Eldred because your brain is tiny and > >doesn't work correctly. > > > >BTW, did you find that pebble at Monza yet? It's there at the lesmos.

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So I was right and you were wrong. As usual. Eldred admitted tonight that he was wrong with his accusations. He said, "Correct - I have seen a few umprovoked shots at you. But, 95% of the time, YOU'RE the one who initiates the insults. You'll jump into a GPL or NASCAR thread, toss a few putdowns/cheap shots, then bitch when people respond." I gave him the facts and he responded with, "Ok, I stand corrected - based on that search, most of your posts are in the threads you mention above. It seems like you've responded more than that search shows, though." Andre, maybe you better have your girlfriend write your posts here for you while she's still in awe over your momo. David G Fisher

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:20:26 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote: >So I was right and you were wrong. Well.. when you said 'Andre threw in an "idiot" comment' it wasn't clear you were referring to that post. And since I never stated I didn't say it, I couldn't have been wrong now could I. I just said I couldn't remember anything like that.. HEY WAIT A MINUTE! He's doing it again, bringing me down to his level and beating me with his experience! Damn, the bastard tricked me again! >Andre, maybe you better have your girlfriend write your posts here for you >while she's still in awe over your momo. >David G Fisher You really didn't get that 'leave the joking to Henrie' comment did you? Andre

In article <iz%g7.126621$[email hidden]>, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: > >It depends on the accomplishment. They aren't all the same. Hotlapping >charts/rankings don't tell me anything. They don't tell me the person is a >good sim driver, or that he's a bad sim driver. EldredP wrote: > > Why not? Someone who runs a 1:26 at Monza can certainly be considered a better > driver than someone who can only run 1:40. You know Eldred, reading this reply brought to mind DGF's crowing earlier in the year about how Montoya was such an inferior driver, based in large part upon differences in his qualifying times with RS. Seems he switches his opinions on these matters to suit him. Faster hotlapping is only a skill factor when you can use it against JPM, but is irrelevant when it comes to GPL racers. Go figure... -- Fester

In article <uvMH7.209924$[email hidden]>, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> writes: >Eldred admitted tonight that he was wrong with his accusations. I admitted that I was wrong about the content of the threads you were in. My other accusations stand. I *still* say you start the majority of the attacks... For you to continue to imply that you're an innocent victim in all of this is, well, WRONG. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Geez, you guys still giving DF the attention he craves here? Marty David G Fisher wrote:

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> You, Andre, and Thom have proved how much damage too much GPL can do to a > tiny mind. > > For anyone who's life is so boring that they actually want an explanation > for this........one day Eldred announced he was hosting a GPL online race. I > replied with an "I'll be there!". > > Anyone who's familiar with me (even a little) here would know that was an > obviously sarcastic, joking reply. I haven't even had the game installed on > my computer for probably two years. > > Nice try guys. I'm sure you fooled at least two or three r.a.s. visitors. > Getting kind of desperate though, aren't you? > > David G Fisher > > P.S. This whole Tom P. versus "the gang" on the track is really silly and > juvenile. > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > > > > >Tom, if you want to bring some friends to the race, that's cool too. > > >How about David 'practice is for sissies' Fisher? ;) > > > > > > > David didn't even show up at the GP race he SAID he would... :( > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > GPLRank - under construction... > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I wish you guys would stop playing dumb in order to win a debate. I hotlap. I've done it in order to qualify for an online contest. I've done it to try and in the F1RC demo competition at BHM (finished 4th or 5th). Comparing hotlapping times for a particular sim becomes irrelevent after awhile (especially three years!) though. That's my point, and I have made this very clear in previous posts. BTW, when JPM and any other F1driver are qualifying, there is a million miles difference between that and sim hotlapping. You know what the differences are and that is why I say you are playing dumb. David G Fisher "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> You know Eldred, reading this reply brought to mind DGF's crowing > earlier in the year about how Montoya was such an inferior driver, based > in large part upon differences in his qualifying times with RS. Seems > he switches his opinions on these matters to suit him. Faster > hotlapping is only a skill factor when you can use it against JPM, but > is irrelevant when it comes to GPL racers. Go figure... > > -- > > Fester

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >Andre, maybe you better have your girlfriend write your posts here foryou

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> >while she's still in awe over your momo. > >David G Fisher > > You really didn't get that 'leave the joking to Henrie' comment did > you? > > Andre

She left you, huh? So sad. David G Fisher

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:24:41 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote: >She left you, huh? So sad. > >David G Fisher The usual thoughtfull, funny and intelligent answer. You never disappoint me you birdy lover :) Oh, and I found a homepage of a David G. Fisher, so this is you sitting between your girlfriends eh? http://www.lycoming.edu/dept/astr-phy/fisherpdg/images/1976a.jpg Nah.. probably isn't you, this guy actually studied. Andre

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:20:03 -0800, xxx <[email hidden]> wrote: >Geez, you guys still giving DF the attention he craves here? > >Marty Yep, still having fun :) Andre > >David G Fisher wrote this bullshit:

Same old place... Bart Brown

Yep!! You are right Marty! Just more Blah! Blah! Blah! from the a-hole & some still try reasoning with this idiot but me dont dun due it No Moe` No Moe!! :) "xxx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | Geez, you guys still giving DF the attention he craves here? | Marty

Inbreeding :) "Andre Warringa" wrote: | Oh, and I found a homepage of a David G. Fisher, so this is you | sitting between your girlfriends eh? | http://www.lycoming.edu/dept/astr-phy/fisherpdg/images/1976a.jpg | Andre

I'll say it one last time. Hotlapping in auto sims can only be used to measure a person's abilities if you know how much time they have spent to get their results (which is almost always impossible). David G Fisher "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >> You seem to think that unless the accomplishment comes quickly, itisn't > worth > >> mentioning. Why is that, David? > > > >It depends on the accomplishment. They aren't all the same. Hotlapping > >charts/rankings don't tell me anything. They don't tell me the person isa > >good sim driver, or that he's a bad sim driver. > Why not? Someone who runs a 1:26 at Monza can certainly be considered abetter > driver than someone who can only run 1:40. It's an objective ranking.Even if > you want to collect stats for race wins, pole positions, etc - that data > changes arbitrarily. Someone might have 10 race wins, but he's onlyrunning > against novices. Would you see him as a better sim driver than someonewho > finished last in a race of 'aliens'? > > Eldred > ********************

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> skrev i en meddelelse news:eIZH7.210847$[email hidden]... > I'll say it one last time. <Snip!> Honest or sarcastic? Only the Shadow knows. ;-) /Jens http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=ability a�bil�i�ty n. pl. a�bil�i�ties 1. The quality of being able to do something, especially the physical, mental, financial, or legal power to accomplish something. 2. A natural or acquired skill or talent. 3. (Irrelevant, imho).

Since you decided to research me on usenet, then you probably saw that the ONLY place ANYONE has even the SLIGHTEST negative or confrontational comment to make towards me has come from..........<drumroll>........... this newsgroup. How can you explain that? If I'm a naughty boy here, I can only think that some of you must be a bad influence on me. http://www.lycoming.edu/dept/astr-phy/fisherpdg/images/1988.jpg David G Fisher "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:24:41 GMT, "David G Fisher" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >She left you, huh? So sad. > > > >David G Fisher > > The usual thoughtfull, funny and intelligent answer. > You never disappoint me you birdy lover :) > > Oh, and I found a homepage of a David G. Fisher, so this is you > sitting between your girlfriends eh? > http://www.lycoming.edu/dept/astr-phy/fisherpdg/images/1976a.jpg > > Nah.. probably isn't you, this guy actually studied. > > Andre

>"Bart Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote > Same old place... Hehe, well it's the Usenet :) It's basic social structure is that things never change, that one way or the other the wheel spins and the same situation come back. It reminds me of DerekSmart-gate. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > Since you decided to research me on usenet, then you probably saw that the > ONLY place ANYONE has even the SLIGHTEST negative or confrontational > comment to make towards me has come from..........<drumroll>...........this > newsgroup. You don't troll anywhere else, that's why. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

David G Fisher wrote: > > I wish you guys would stop playing dumb in order to win a debate. > > I hotlap. I've done it in order to qualify for an online contest. I've done > it to try and in the F1RC demo competition at BHM (finished 4th or 5th). Good for you! Unlike some, I wouldn't put someone down for trying & doing their best in a competition. > Comparing hotlapping times for a particular sim becomes irrelevent after > awhile (especially three years!) though. That's my point, and I have made > this very clear in previous posts. True, it's a horse you have beaten into the ground. But you've never made it *clear* at all. Like many have tried to get across to you, there is no difference between hotlapping a particular sim for three years & running the same Saturday night events for years & years at your local shorttrack in Real Life. > BTW, when JPM and any other F1driver are qualifying, there is a million > miles difference between that and sim hotlapping. You know what the > differences are and that is why I say you are playing dumb. There is no difference at all. In each scenario you have 2 drivers who are pitting their skills against each other on the same circuit. Each pair of drivers is equally bound by the same surrounding conditions as their counterpart. In that way, there is no difference whatsoever. But deep down you know that... -- Fester > David G Fisher > > "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > You know Eldred, reading this reply brought to mind DGF's crowing > > earlier in the year about how Montoya was such an inferior driver, based > > in large part upon differences in his qualifying times with RS. Seems > > he switches his opinions on these matters to suit him. Faster > > hotlapping is only a skill factor when you can use it against JPM, but > > is irrelevant when it comes to GPL racers. Go figure... > > > > -- > > > > Fester

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> > Since you decided to research me on usenet, then you probably saw that the > ONLY place ANYONE has even the SLIGHTEST negative or confrontational > comment to make towards me has come from..........<drumroll>........... this > newsgroup. > > How can you explain that?

Because you're much more civilized on alt.pets.birds, etc. Had you always been like that here, I believe the same would apply. As they say, what goes around comes around. :-) Your reputation precedes you. -- Fester

David G Fisher wrote: > > I'll say it one last time. Hotlapping in auto sims can only be used to > measure a person's abilities if you know how much time they have spent to > get their results (which is almost always impossible). > > David G Fisher You've said that many times. What Eldred is asking is WHY you assert that point. It doesn't matter to you that RS has much more F1 seat time than does JPM, *why* does it differ in sims?? -- Fester > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > >> You seem to think that unless the accomplishment comes quickly, it > isn't > > worth > > >> mentioning. Why is that, David?

Bart Brown wrote: > > Same old place... > > Bart Brown Hey BB... long time no see! You haven't missed much. -- Fester

David G Fisher wrote: > > I just went and checked the past four months of my postings in r.a.s. on > google... Four months? You've been at this little game of yours for years. Want to do some online F1 2001? I haven't tried multiplayer yet. -- Pat Dotson

Bart Brown wrote: > > Same old place... > > Bart Brown Hey Bart, long time no see :-) Yeah, this place is pretty much the same, getting kinda old, the place I mean, not me :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

So Inquiring minds want to know Goy, Is it the Beers and cheers keeping you young then? :) "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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| | | Bart Brown wrote: | > | > Same old place... | > | > Bart Brown | | Hey Bart, long time no see :-) | | Yeah, this place is pretty much the same, getting kinda old, the place I | mean, not me :-) | | | Beers and cheers | (uncle) Goy | | "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ | | * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * | "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

"Thom j." wrote: > > So Inquiring minds want to know Goy, Is it the Beers and cheers > keeping you young then? :) To quote the great Groucho Marx: "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

Uncle Fester wrote: > > Hey BB... long time no see! You haven't missed much. > > -- > > Fester Apparently not! Could someone fill me in briefly on the latest Sim news (NOT the latest flame news...)? Did the West Brothers ever complete their Magnum Opie? Did Skip Barber Racing -- touted to be the most accurate sim ever produced in this particular galactic cluster -- ever get released? Has SoS 1937 ever redeemed itself? I'm all ears... Thanks BB

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> Hey Bart, long time no see :-) > > Yeah, this place is pretty much the same, getting kinda old, the place I > mean, not me :-) > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy

Greetings, Goy! Has a lack of NSS (New Sim Stimulus) engendered this particular thread, or is it just the same old same old? Yowzah BB

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> > Uncle Fester wrote: > > > > Hey BB... long time no see! You haven't missed much. > > > > -- > > > > Fester > > Apparently not! Could someone fill me in briefly on the latest Sim news > (NOT the latest flame news...)? Did the West Brothers ever complete > their Magnum Opie?

Still in the works. :-) > Did Skip Barber Racing -- touted to be the most > accurate sim ever produced in this particular galactic cluster -- ever > get released? Nope. Disappeared into the trashbins of Promising Software. >:-( >Has SoS 1937 ever redeemed itself? From what I hear, use of CTFJ can improve controller handling to the point it makes it palatable. Second hand word... I don't own it myself. Also, Bodin is working on a SoS37 mod for NASCAR Heat. -- Fester

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:10:16 GMT, Bart Brown <[email hidden]> wrote: >Did the West Brothers ever complete >their Magnum Opie? No.. still in progress.. we think. >Did Skip Barber Racing -- touted to be the most >accurate sim ever produced in this particular galactic cluster -- ever >get released? No, major disappointment.. really looked forward to this one, then it disappeared without any info why or how. >Has SoS 1937 ever redeemed itself? According to Bodin: yes According to the rest of the world: no. (Note: this was a joke, Bodin actually found a way to make Sos37 a bit more playable..) But Bodin is working '30s cars addon for Nascar Heat, including new physics, which looks very promising. For the rest, after 3 years, GPL is still king.. unfortunately I might add. Last week the big news was announced though: GPL2 is in the works :D Andre

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> > Goy Larsen wrote: > > Hey Bart, long time no see :-) > > > > Yeah, this place is pretty much the same, getting kinda old, the place I > > mean, not me :-) > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > > Greetings, Goy! Has a lack of NSS (New Sim Stimulus) engendered this > particular thread, or is it just the same old same old?

Well, some people are turning out NHeat mods left and right, which seems to be the most promising thing we have right now, if you're not a big F1 fan that is, in which case there may or may not be a half decent sim out now, other than that, GPL I guess :-) Who would have thought that NHeat would be the sim to keep us going while waiting for the next big thing, scary thought really :-), but initial impression on such work as the DTM mod are all favorable, to the point where I'm tempted to rummage through old boxes, still filled with stuff from when I moved house this summer, to dig out my NHeat CD and give them a try, the TPTCC league will be running a test season with the DTM mod now, after being faithful to Papy for a number of years, that has to count for *something* As for the crowd here, it's pretty much the same, some of the old faces, like Bruce Kennewell, is gone though, which is kinda sad, nothing against the new guys dropping in on "us", but I do miss some of the old timers in here Speaking of which, if anyone of you guys out there is still in contact with ole Bruce, tell him I said hi, lost his e-mail addy a long time ago, miss the old geezer, don't tell him I said that though or he'll get som funny ideas about people actually liking him or something :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

So since I wanna feel Britney I'm 20? :)~ "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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| | | "Thom j." wrote: | > | > So Inquiring minds want to know Goy, Is it the Beers and cheers | > keeping you young then? :) | | To quote the great Groucho Marx: | | "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" | | | Beers and cheers | (uncle) Goy | | "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ | | * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * | "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

"Thom j." wrote: > > So since I wanna feel Britney I'm 20? :)~ Uh, I'm not that desperate to feel young again :-) Not that I'm all that old in the first place, just feels like it right now, but yeah, that's the basic idea, but you have to lose the "wanna" bit...:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" --Groucho Marx--

Ok then, I GOTTA FEEL BRITNEY!!! :o)~ "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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| "Thom j." wrote: | > | > So since I wanna feel Britney I'm 20? :)~ | | Uh, I'm not that desperate to feel young again :-) | | Not that I'm all that old in the first place, just feels like it right | now, but yeah, that's the basic idea, but you have to lose the "wanna" | bit...:-) | | | Beers and cheers | (uncle) Goy | | http://www.theuspits.com | http://www.teammirage.com | | "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" | --Groucho Marx--

In article <[email hidden]>, Bart Brown <[email hidden]> writes: >Apparently not! Could someone fill me in briefly on the latest Sim news >(NOT the latest flame news...)? Did the West Brothers ever complete >their Magnum Opie? Did Skip Barber Racing -- touted to be the most >accurate sim ever produced in this particular galactic cluster -- ever >get released? Has SoS 1937 ever redeemed itself? > No. <g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Thanks for all replies to my "Castaway" questions -- glad to see Goy, Eldred, Andre, Uncle Fester, Dave Henrie, and (oh, what the hell!) Frankie Menard still keeping the faith. Sorry to hear Bruce has left the mix. I'm probably the only person in the NG who hasn't bought NHeat, but with all these carsets, I guess I'll have to do it. I gather no one knows much about the putative GPL2, though I for one would much rather see 1970-72 than '82 -- Tyrrells, Ferrari 312Bs, Matras, Marches, the last of the semi-functional BRMs, Lotus 72s and that lot -- but that's only because I'm old, and think real motorsport died right around that time, never to be seen on this earth again (except for WRC!). BB

Goy Larsen wrote: > Speaking of which, if anyone of you guys out there is still in contact > with ole Bruce, tell him I said hi, lost his e-mail addy a long time > ago, miss the old geezer, don't tell him I said that though or he'll get > som funny ideas about people actually liking him or something :-) Don't know his email addy offhand, but I know he does hang in the Train Simulator crowd now. Just as another oldtimer does, Marc Nelson. -- Fester

"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CUfI7.213551$[email hidden]... > Ok then, I GOTTA FEEL BRITNEY!!! :o)~ been there done that...old news....if you've felt one Britney you've felt them all. har har dave henrie

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> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > | "Thom j." wrote: > | > > | > So since I wanna feel Britney I'm 20? :)~ > | > | Uh, I'm not that desperate to feel young again :-) > | > | Not that I'm all that old in the first place, just feels like it right > | now, but yeah, that's the basic idea, but you have to lose the "wanna" > | bit...:-) > | > | > | Beers and cheers > | (uncle) Goy > | > | http://www.theuspits.com > | http://www.teammirage.com > | > | "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" > | --Groucho Marx-- > >

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> Goy Larsen wrote: > > > Speaking of which, if anyone of you guys out there is still in contact > > with ole Bruce, tell him I said hi, lost his e-mail addy a long time > > ago, miss the old geezer, don't tell him I said that though or he'll get > > som funny ideas about people actually liking him or something :-) > > > Don't know his email addy offhand, but I know he does hang in the Train > Simulator crowd now. Just as another oldtimer does, Marc Nelson. >

Things get slower as we age... and our toys get bigger. Stephen

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> > Goy Larsen wrote: > > > Speaking of which, if anyone of you guys out there is still in contact > > with ole Bruce, tell him I said hi, lost his e-mail addy a long time > > ago, miss the old geezer, don't tell him I said that though or he'll get > > som funny ideas about people actually liking him or something :-) > > Don't know his email addy offhand, but I know he does hang in the Train > Simulator crowd now. Just as another oldtimer does, Marc Nelson.

Aaaaah, he's getting too old to keep the car on the road eh, well, good thing those trains steer themselves then....:-) Thx :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

No Way Jose` :o)~ YummY! YummY! Britney's riding my tummy! :')~ YeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaaa "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VTnI7.24273$[email hidden]... | | "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:CUfI7.213551$[email hidden]... | > Ok then, I GOTTA FEEL BRITNEY!!! :o)~ | | been there done that...old news....if you've felt one Britney you'vefelt

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| them all. har har | dave henrie | > | > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:[email hidden]... | > | "Thom j." wrote: | > | > | > | > So since I wanna feel Britney I'm 20? :)~ | > | | > | Uh, I'm not that desperate to feel young again :-) | > | | > | Not that I'm all that old in the first place, just feels like it right | > | now, but yeah, that's the basic idea, but you have to lose the "wanna" | > | bit...:-) | > | | > | | > | Beers and cheers | > | (uncle) Goy | > | | > | http://www.theuspits.com | > | http://www.teammirage.com | > | | > | "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" | > | --Groucho Marx-- | > | > | |

Slot cars are on rails too, aint they? :) "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | Aaaaah, he's getting too old to keep the car on the road eh, well, good | thing those trains steer themselves then....:-) | Thx :-) | Beers and cheers | (uncle) Goy