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More W2k woes

12 posts by 9 people · 13 Nov 2001 20:22 UTC - 14 Nov 2001 04:55 UTC

sudesh 13 Nov 2001 20:22 UTC#152604
Anybody know how to change the irq's on W2k? all my options are greyed out, but i'm beginning to suspect this might be the problem with my soundcard (i have sound, just not in games) Sudesh
Sudesh, Unfortunately, unless you tell it otherwise, Win2K sets itself up with ACPI by default - this means that all IRQ's are handled somewhat dynamically, which is why you can't change them. I seem to remember there being a way to change this without reinstalling, but can't remember what it was. Anybody? Rick "Sudesh Bhagwandin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> Anybody know how to change the irq's on W2k? > all my options are greyed out, but i'm beginning to suspect this might be > the problem with my soundcard (i have sound, just not in games) > > Sudesh > >
You also can try swapping slots on the motherboard. Your motherboard book should tell you what slots are shared as well so that may clear things up. MadDAWG
> Unfortunately, unless you tell it otherwise, Win2K sets itself up withACPI > by default - this means that all IRQ's are handled somewhat dynamically, > which is why you can't change them. I seem to remember there being a wayto > change this without reinstalling, but can't remember what it was. > > Anybody?To remove ACPI go to control panel->system Select the hardware tab, and device manager. Underneath the 'Computer' icon, you should see the ACPI thingy. Right click properties, and select driver. Select update driver, and display a list of known drivers. Select show all hardware of this device class, and look for (Standard Computers), Standard PC. Thats the one you want. Dan.
Ian P 13 Nov 2001 22:23 UTC↳ reply to MadDAWG#152638
Win2k shares the same IRQ for everything unless you force it not to. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> MadDAWG <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > You also can try swapping slots on the motherboard. Your motherboard book > should tell you what slots are shared as well so that may clear things up. > > MadDAWG > >
"Dan Spam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bf19d26$0$98613$[email hidden]... <snip> > To remove ACPI go to control panel->system > Select the hardware tab, and device manager. > Underneath the 'Computer' icon, you should see the ACPI thingy. Rightclick > properties, and select driver. > Select update driver, and display a list of known drivers. Select show all > hardware of this device class, and look for > (Standard Computers), Standard PC.<snip> You should also match this in the BIOS (if supported) by turning OFF the ACPI aware operating system option. Bear in mind, without ACPI you will not have control of hardware resources from the operating system, so any IRQ changes you need will have to be a slot change or modification to the BIOS config. iksteh
Also power off the computer, either by the switch on the back (power supply) or by pulling the power plug. As I have found that Win2k does not recognize some hardware/IRQ changes with a simple restart or power cycle from the front panel switch. This will all depend on if your motherboard has Wake-Up Support, i.e. Remote Ring On. -- 1907 - Daytona Beach Florida Glenn H. Curtiss rode a V8 powered motorcycle to a 136.30 mph record in the measured mile. The Chicago Daily News headline reads: "Fastest Mile On Earth, Bullets Are The Only Rivals Of Glenn Curtiss"
Larry 14 Nov 2001 02:25 UTC↳ reply to sudesh#152575
Win2K uses ACPI, and controls all of the IRQ's for you. Having multiple devices on the same IRQ under Win2K/XP is absolutely normal and expected. The only time this causes problems is when there incompatible drivers or hardware installed. There is a way to run your system as a "Standard PC", in which case you can modify these things yourself, but it requires reinstalling Windows 2K and it's not really recommended. -Larry "Sudesh Bhagwandin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> Anybody know how to change the irq's on W2k? > all my options are greyed out, but i'm beginning to suspect this might be > the problem with my soundcard (i have sound, just not in games) > > Sudesh > >
The way of changing this without reinstalling is frowned upon by just about everyone, including Microsoft, who saw it as so much of a problem that they wrote a Knowledgebase Article saying "Don't Do It!". It is highly problematic, and a complete waste of time. -Larry "Rick Baumhauer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9ss056$1595f6$[email hidden]... > Sudesh, > > Unfortunately, unless you tell it otherwise, Win2K sets itself up withACPI > by default - this means that all IRQ's are handled somewhat dynamically, > which is why you can't change them. I seem to remember there being a wayto
Quoted text (10 lines)> change this without reinstalling, but can't remember what it was. > > Anybody? > > Rick > > "Sudesh Bhagwandin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Anybody know how to change the irq's on W2k? > > all my options are greyed out, but i'm beginning to suspect this might
be
Quoted text (7 lines)> > the problem with my soundcard (i have sound, just not in games) > > > > Sudesh > > > > > >
Larry 14 Nov 2001 02:28 UTC↳ reply to Dan Spam#152579
This is a BAD idea. It has caused headaches, in one form or another, for nearly everyone that does it (whether they admit it or not). The main problem is that your system is built with a particular HAL configuration when Windows is installed. By manually changing from ACPI to Standard PC, you don't have the proper matching HAL in place. It gets ugly from there for most people. -Larry "Dan Spam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bf19d26$0$98613$[email hidden]... > > Unfortunately, unless you tell it otherwise, Win2K sets itself up with > ACPI > > by default - this means that all IRQ's are handled somewhat dynamically, > > which is why you can't change them. I seem to remember there being away
Quoted text (9 lines)> to > > change this without reinstalling, but can't remember what it was. > > > > Anybody? > To remove ACPI go to control panel->system > > Select the hardware tab, and device manager. > > Underneath the 'Computer' icon, you should see the ACPI thingy. Right
click
Quoted text (12 lines)> properties, and select driver. > > Select update driver, and display a list of known drivers. Select show all > hardware of this device class, and look for > > (Standard Computers), Standard PC. > > Thats the one you want. > > Dan. > >
Dan Spam 14 Nov 2001 04:55 UTC↳ reply to Larry#152514
Quoted text (7 lines)> Win2K uses ACPI, and controls all of the IRQ's for you. Having multiple > devices on the same IRQ under Win2K/XP is absolutely normal and expected. > > The only time this causes problems is when there incompatible drivers or > hardware installed. > > There is a way to run your system as a "Standard PC", in which case you
can > modify these things yourself, but it requires reinstalling Windows 2K and > it's not really recommended. >Thats a lot of postings there Larry. I didn't recommend doing it. The poster simply asked how it was done. > This is a BAD idea. It has caused headaches, in one form or another, for > nearly everyone that does it (whether they admit it or not). I have done it, and its resolved IRQ contention issues I had between my realtek network card, Geforce AGP card, USB and everything bloody else being all on IRQ 9. I got unreasonable crashes every hour or so. Now I don't. Seemed to work for me. Where did you get all your information from Larry? Any references from Microsoft on this? Any pages where its mentioned how bad this is? What I'm saying is, your milage may vary. Don't take my word for it - but if your machine is not working anyways...... whats to lose? Dan

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