WSC canned?

Any truth to this rumour? From: http://www.fatbabies.com/fatrumors.html 11/14 Empire's Racing Game Canned Empire Interactive has dropped West Racing�s World Sports Cars after repeatedly "hinting" to them to tone down the "sim" aspects of the game in order to make it more "arcade-like" in order to suit the mainstream market. Subsequent builds showed no improvement, and as such Empire canceled development. I hope not!!!! I was looking forward to WSC:( - Michael

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> > Any truth to this rumour? > > From: http://www.fatbabies.com/fatrumors.html > > 11/14 Empire's Racing Game Canned > > Empire Interactive has dropped West Racing�s World Sports Cars after > repeatedly "hinting" to them to tone down the "sim" aspects of the game > in order to make it more "arcade-like" in order to suit the mainstream > market. Subsequent builds showed no improvement, and as such Empire > canceled development. > > I hope not!!!! I was looking forward to WSC:( > > - Michael

For Empire's sake, I sure hope it's untrue. There will be a definite boycott of anything under their banner should that be the case! >:-( -- Fester

>"MP" <[email hidden]> wrote > Empire Interactive has dropped West Racing�s World Sports Cars after > repeatedly "hinting" to them to tone down the "sim" aspects of the game > in order to make it more "arcade-like" in order to suit the mainstream > market. Subsequent builds showed no improvement, and as such Empire > canceled development. I would prefer no WSC instead of a toned down WSC. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Sounds to me like we have someone out there who is bored, first rumours of GPL2 and then this. What other rumours could we start by sending a mail to www.fatbabies.com? "MP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Any truth to this rumour? > > From: http://www.fatbabies.com/fatrumors.html > > 11/14 Empire's Racing Game Canned > > Empire Interactive has dropped West Racing's World Sports Cars after > repeatedly "hinting" to them to tone down the "sim" aspects of the game > in order to make it more "arcade-like" in order to suit the mainstream > market. Subsequent builds showed no improvement, and as such Empire > canceled development. > > I hope not!!!! I was looking forward to WSC:( > > - Michael >

Last news I heard about WSC was about a month ago from a guy off the ringers list. He is the co-pilot of the guy who runs scoobynet (I think) who is helping the West brothers with the physics. Because of this there is a scoobynet subaru in the game and he sent me a screenshot (as he knew I was interested in sim racing and it had his name on the side of thew car being the copilot) At the time he seemed to think that empire were no longer going to publish the PC version (although it would still come out) but would publish a PS2 version. How true that is I do not know... I'll mail him to see if he has any updates. -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. `o^=o- http://www.oppositelock.co.uk N�rburgring and Grand Prix Legends (yeah it needs updating I know...) "MP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Any truth to this rumour? > > From: http://www.fatbabies.com/fatrumors.html > > 11/14 Empire's Racing Game Canned > > Empire Interactive has dropped West Racing's World Sports Cars after > repeatedly "hinting" to them to tone down the "sim" aspects of the game > in order to make it more "arcade-like" in order to suit the mainstream > market. Subsequent builds showed no improvement, and as such Empire > canceled development. > > I hope not!!!! I was looking forward to WSC:( > > - Michael >

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:59:56 GMT, Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>MP wrote: >> >> Any truth to this rumour? >> >> From: http://www.fatbabies.com/fatrumors.html >> >> 11/14 Empire's Racing Game Canned >> >> Empire Interactive has dropped West Racing�s World Sports Cars after >> repeatedly "hinting" to them to tone down the "sim" aspects of the game >> in order to make it more "arcade-like" in order to suit the mainstream >> market. Subsequent builds showed no improvement, and as such Empire >> canceled development. >> >> I hope not!!!! I was looking forward to WSC:( >> > >For Empire's sake, I sure hope it's untrue. There will be a definite >boycott of anything under their banner should that be the case! >:-(

That doesn't mean that the game won't be out, now does it. :) Just forget about that PS2 version to judge things. Ruud van Gaal Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/ Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

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>Any truth to this rumour? > >From: http://www.fatbabies.com/fatrumors.html > >11/14 Empire's Racing Game Canned > >Empire Interactive has dropped West Racing�s World Sports Cars after >repeatedly "hinting" to them to tone down the "sim" aspects of the game >in order to make it more "arcade-like" in order to suit the mainstream >market.

I think it's a bs rumour. The West's always intended to make a sim for the hardcore simlovers. That's why Chris asked a lot of questions what the true simlovers thought should be included if possible. They made it very clear from the beginning that it should be of the mold of GPL and better. They would however include a way to make the learning curve less steep. Their intention was to make it a special sim and not one out of a dozen game. I believe they made a deal with Empire to handover the sourcecode to other developers to port it to the Microsoft Gamebox or whatever it's called. That version might be more arcadelike but that's none of the West's work. I still believe we will see the WSC-sim someday wether it's published by Empire or someone else. Hans van Dam Hans van Dam

Gee, there's a surprise....... MP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Any truth to this rumour? > > From: http://www.fatbabies.com/fatrumors.html > > 11/14 Empire's Racing Game Canned > > Empire Interactive has dropped West Racing's World Sports Cars after > repeatedly "hinting" to them to tone down the "sim" aspects of the game > in order to make it more "arcade-like" in order to suit the mainstream > market. Subsequent builds showed no improvement, and as such Empire > canceled development. > > I hope not!!!! I was looking forward to WSC:( > > - Michael >

MP wrote: > > Any truth to this rumour? Who Knows? I do believe it's time for the West brothers, or someone from Empire, to give us a heads up as to what's going on. I understand that they can't get much done if they are going to spend hours every day answering our questions, but a "This is what we're working on" message every 6 months should be something they can budget in their schedule. I won't abandon hope, but I have log ago abandoned any expectations. We'll drive it someday, or not. Larry

> I understand that they can't get much done if they are > going to spend hours every day answering our questions, < I didn't realize they were answering questions .

What does it matter anyways... I'd rather see them go with another publisher and give us the hardcore stuff..than tone down and get a quick release with yet another crap physics engine...there's shit loads of crappy driving sims out there already. If one publisher doesn't wanna publish it...another one will..screw empire.. If this is true then i applaude the west brothers for standing their ground. Slammer On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:53:02 -0000, MP <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Any truth to this rumour? > >From: http://www.fatbabies.com/fatrumors.html > >11/14 Empire's Racing Game Canned > >Empire Interactive has dropped West Racing�s World Sports Cars after >repeatedly "hinting" to them to tone down the "sim" aspects of the game >in order to make it more "arcade-like" in order to suit the mainstream >market. Subsequent builds showed no improvement, and as such Empire >canceled development. > >I hope not!!!! I was looking forward to WSC:( > >- Michael

This rumour is 100% accurate. Both West brothers have dropped development of WSC and are now working with Papy on GPL2. "MP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Any truth to this rumour? > > From: http://www.fatbabies.com/fatrumors.html > > 11/14 Empire's Racing Game Canned > > Empire Interactive has dropped West Racing�s World Sports Cars after > repeatedly "hinting" to them to tone down the "sim" aspects of the game > in order to make it more "arcade-like" in order to suit the mainstream > market. Subsequent builds showed no improvement, and as such Empire > canceled development. > > I hope not!!!! I was looking forward to WSC:( > > - Michael >

"Andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mWEI7.97$[email hidden]... > This rumour is 100% accurate. Both West brothers have dropped development > of WSC and are now working with Papy on GPL2. > Oops, I forgot to mention that they will be doing a future radio show with some really cool sound samples from GPL2. Unfortunately they won't comment on a release date or a finalized set of features. Rest assured though that this game will be the best sim ever! I for one can not wait for Christmas 2006!

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> On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:59:56 GMT, Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >MP wrote: > >> > >> Any truth to this rumour? > >> > >> From: http://www.fatbabies.com/fatrumors.html > >> > >> 11/14 Empire's Racing Game Canned > >> > >> Empire Interactive has dropped West Racing's World Sports Cars

I hope this isn't true, of course, but my concern is that it (WSC) was being touted around a LONG time ago - by the time it comes out, will the game software itself be outdated? r, is it the case that they're making gameplay improvements, too, as time goes by?

Ahhh how quickly we forget. This was the same website that said that Dave Kaemmer had left Papy after becoming frustrated with the management. Now he's hard at work on GPL2. "MP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Any truth to this rumour? > > From: http://www.fatbabies.com/fatrumors.html > > 11/14 Empire's Racing Game Canned > > Empire Interactive has dropped West Racing's World Sports Cars after > repeatedly "hinting" to them to tone down the "sim" aspects of the game > in order to make it more "arcade-like" in order to suit the mainstream > market. Subsequent builds showed no improvement, and as such Empire > canceled development. > > I hope not!!!! I was looking forward to WSC:( > > - Michael >

> Unfortunately they won't comment > on a release date or a finalized set of features. Well then at least they learned something from their WSC experience... ;)

Oh, my. Here we go :)... -Larry "Andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mWEI7.97$[email hidden]...

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> This rumour is 100% accurate. Both West brothers have dropped development > of WSC and are now working with Papy on GPL2. > > "MP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Any truth to this rumour? > > > > From: http://www.fatbabies.com/fatrumors.html > > > > 11/14 Empire's Racing Game Canned > > > > Empire Interactive has dropped West Racing's World Sports Cars after > > repeatedly "hinting" to them to tone down the "sim" aspects of the game > > in order to make it more "arcade-like" in order to suit the mainstream > > market. Subsequent builds showed no improvement, and as such Empire > > canceled development. > > > > I hope not!!!! I was looking forward to WSC:( > > > > - Michael > > > >