GPL2 wish-list!

Allow me to add fuel to the fire and hereby putforward a few of my hopes and wishes for GPL2 (if we ever see one). Assuming GPL2 will be about the 1972 'GP' season.. I would love to see the following features in 'GPL2'; - All the tracks from the 1972 championship. (If any "swaps" are needed - change the Belgium GP to the old Spa or Zolder or replace Nivells with the non-championship race in Brazil (the real Interlagos - all 8km of it) or perhaps the Gold Cup at Oulton Park! What ever yuo do do - do NOT under ANY circumstances replace Brands Hatch with Silverstone! - All top teams / cars from the season. or better yet *all* cars used during the season.. - Pitstops! (I DO NOT CARE if they NEVER happend in '72 - *I* want to fix *my* car if it brake-down or whatever.) I also dont care if my pit-stop will take a minute or 2 if thats needed... In a long [online] races we could make mandatory stops or make repairs if needed... all in all... it wont hurt will it? IMHO, it will only make the "gameplay" more interresting... - RAIN and dynamic weather (Dont tell me you cant match Crammond - Mr. Kaemmer :-) - Slicks and Rain tyres - Punctures and better damage models (both car, driveline and engine) - Multiplayer code/stuff a'la N4. (or better) - Custom Driver helmets! Just like N4 allow you to share paint-jobs and see eachothers cars online - I would love the same feature being applied to driver helmets in GPL2. The ability to see who's behind the wheel would be soo cool and should be "soo" simple to include! *Please* (Btw, paintjobs on the cars would be cool aswell, but given a choice I'll take personal helmets any day! (Psst: Dont forget to make several helmet types; Open face, open face with peak, full face, full face with peak etc.) - Race Results with real lapcharts and results. - Abillity to create new or own teams - Ability to submit entrant information that is displayed in race-results etc. - Ability to drive for my own country this time! (i.e more country choices) - Track "builder" - Something that allow us to make ourown tracks without being able to modify exsisting ones. - A GPL=>GPL2 Track converter :-)) - VROC 2 support! (or vice versa?) - Savegame-feature (I know... but lets face it... 1. Offline league-racing is more or less gone. 2. People will only whine and demand this anyway 3. It will "help" game-play for those that perhaps need it the most. (This goes for N5 too btw... lets face it... offline racing is more or less dead.) - Adjustable mirrors! This time we'll all really need it! I've not mentioned so of the features presently supported in N4 (Shifter, Clutch etc.) as I assume these will make it's way into GPL2 aswell. Feel free to add more fuel to the bonfire! -- ed_ The GPLEA -------------------------------------- - My name is Elliott Forbes Robinson. Spell it, please. - E-F-R. No, no, spell your name. - E-F-R!!

Good set of features, allow me to add in car adjustable brake bias. Perhaps an accellerated wear functionality for shorter races would be nice as well. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. "Ed Solheim" wrote... > Allow me to add fuel to the fire and hereby put forward > a few of my hopes and wishes for GPL2 (if we ever see one). > <snip>

In article <VoEI7.2762$[email hidden]>, "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> writes: >- All the tracks from the 1972 championship. (If any "swaps" are needed - >change the Belgium GP to the old Spa or Zolder or replace Nivells with the >non-championship race in Brazil (the real Interlagos - all 8km of it) or >perhaps the Gold Cup at Oulton Park! What ever yuo do do - do NOT under ANY >circumstances replace Brands Hatch with Silverstone! Interlagos was 8km??? I never knew that. And what's wrong with Silverstone? I prefer that to Brands, which I can't STAND... eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 02:02:49 +0100, "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote: >- Race Results with real lapcharts and results. Ed, that's what GPL2RA is for! :) Cheers, /Martin

My personal wishes are for a 70-76 gpl, with the best cars and tracks available during that period. That and dynamic rain are the things I really want!!! Custom cars would be pretty good too, not a bad idea. And of course all the original GPL tracks will be included :) Rafe Mc On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 02:02:49 +0100, "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Allow me to add fuel to the fire and hereby putforward a few of my hopes and >wishes for GPL2 (if we ever see one). > >Assuming GPL2 will be about the 1972 'GP' season.. I would love to see the >following features in 'GPL2'; > >- All the tracks from the 1972 championship. (If any "swaps" are needed - >change the Belgium GP to the old Spa or Zolder or replace Nivells with the >non-championship race in Brazil (the real Interlagos - all 8km of it) or >perhaps the Gold Cup at Oulton Park! What ever yuo do do - do NOT under ANY >circumstances replace Brands Hatch with Silverstone! > >- All top teams / cars from the season. or better yet *all* cars used >during the season.. > >- Pitstops! (I DO NOT CARE if they NEVER happend in '72 - *I* want to fix >*my* car if it brake-down or whatever.) I also dont care if my pit-stop will >take a minute or 2 if thats needed... In a long [online] races we could >make mandatory stops or make repairs if needed... all in all... it wont >hurt will it? IMHO, it will only make the "gameplay" more interresting... > >- RAIN and dynamic weather (Dont tell me you cant match Crammond - Mr. >Kaemmer :-) > >- Slicks and Rain tyres > >- Punctures and better damage models (both car, driveline and engine) > >- Multiplayer code/stuff a'la N4. (or better) > >- Custom Driver helmets! >Just like N4 allow you to share paint-jobs and see eachothers cars online - >I would love the same feature being applied to driver helmets in GPL2. The >ability to see who's behind the wheel would be soo cool and should be "soo" >simple to include! *Please* (Btw, paintjobs on the cars would be cool >aswell, but given a choice I'll take personal helmets any day! (Psst: Dont >forget to make several helmet types; Open face, open face with peak, full >face, full face with peak etc.) > >- Race Results with real lapcharts and results. > >- Abillity to create new or own teams > >- Ability to submit entrant information that is displayed in race-results >etc. > >- Ability to drive for my own country this time! (i.e more country choices) > > >- Track "builder" - Something that allow us to make ourown tracks without >being able to modify exsisting ones. > >- A GPL=>GPL2 Track converter :-)) > >- VROC 2 support! (or vice versa?) > >- Savegame-feature (I know... but lets face it... 1. Offline league-racing >is more or less gone. 2. People will only whine and demand this anyway 3. It >will "help" game-play for those that perhaps need it the most. (This goes >for N5 too btw... lets face it... offline racing is more or less dead.) > >- Adjustable mirrors! This time we'll all really need it! > >I've not mentioned so of the features presently supported in N4 (Shifter, >Clutch etc.) as I assume these will make it's way into GPL2 aswell. > >Feel free to add more fuel to the bonfire!

The ability for the AI to slipstream would be enormously welcome! (I don't own N4, so don't know if that's already present there.) -- Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

On 15 Nov 2001 10:53:56 GMT, [email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote: >The ability for the AI to slipstream would be enormously welcome! (I >don't own N4, so don't know if that's already present there.) PITBABES!!! Andre >-- >Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which >deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan > >The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

Yeah, flares and huge collars..LOL -- Peter H GPL sucks...you in "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 15 Nov 2001 10:53:56 GMT, [email hidden] (David > Buttery) wrote: > > >The ability for the AI to slipstream would be enormously welcome! (I > >don't own N4, so don't know if that's already present there.) > > PITBABES!!! > > Andre > > >-- > >Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which > >deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan > > > >The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com >

I think a quick look at the present menu structure in GPL gives a hint of the future-think at Papy: sierra/gpl/cars/cars67 and the there's the seasons (plural) directory. Seems to be built for seasonal expansion packs (or add-ons ;-) ) already... But heck, since I'm a yank and we're wishing, I'll take a cupholder! SB "Rafe McAuliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> My personal wishes are for a 70-76 gpl, with the best cars and tracks > available during that period. That and dynamic rain are the things I > really want!!! > > Custom cars would be pretty good too, not a bad idea. > > And of course all the original GPL tracks will be included :) > > Rafe Mc

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> I think a quick look at the present menu structure in GPL gives a hint of the future-think at Papy: > > sierra/gpl/cars/cars67 > > and the there's the seasons (plural) directory. > > Seems to be built for seasonal expansion packs (or add-ons ;-) ) already... > > But heck, since I'm a yank and we're wishing, I'll take a cupholder!

Nice conspiracy theory. I've been thinking the same thing once. But I think it's more the papy way of doing car folders. It's like that in all papy games with a year specific folder. Remember, the car parameters are coded in gpl.exe, so the cars folder are only for textures and 3d shapes.

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> SB > > "Rafe McAuliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > My personal wishes are for a 70-76 gpl, with the best cars and tracks > > available during that period. That and dynamic rain are the things I > > really want!!! > > > > Custom cars would be pretty good too, not a bad idea. > > > > And of course all the original GPL tracks will be included :) > > > > Rafe Mc > > >

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> Yeah, flares and huge collars..LOL > > > -- > Peter H > > GPL sucks...you in > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On 15 Nov 2001 10:53:56 GMT, [email hidden] (David > > Buttery) wrote: > > > > >The ability for the AI to slipstream would be enormously welcome! (I > > >don't own N4, so don't know if that's already present there.) > > > > PITBABES!!! > > > > Andre > > > > >-- > > >Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which > > >deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan > > > > > >The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com > > > >

Sorry Eldred, but compared to a realistic version of Brands Hatch - Silverstone look like a parking lot (IMO). As for Interlagos.. they full circuit back then measured some 7960 meters. http://www.forix.com/iex/img/cir/Interlagos_1973_.jpg http://www.forix.com/asp/nc.asp?z=0&k=0&l=0&r=7302&c=0 -- ed_ -- NOTE! Return address is *not* my own - but the e-mail address to some spammers that has bothered me one time to many! This weeks winners: [email hidden] - Eat this - suckers!

Yeah, Olav - I didn't think GPL was actually ready to take the add-ons; just thought it gave a peek into their thinking. Why else have a folder for cars 67 at all, otherwise - they could've just stuck everything in gpl/cars. A bit of code poked into the exe and voila! Wasn't it true that some of the bits for N4 were already in the GPL code, but unused? Wonder what GPL2 bits might be lurking in the N4 code.... SB "Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote... > Nice conspiracy theory. I've been thinking the same thing once. But I > think it's more the papy way of doing car folders. It's like that in > all papy games with a year specific folder. > > Remember, the car parameters are coded in gpl.exe, so the cars folder are only > for textures and 3d shapes.

Oh, I forgot a few things... Keep the scrubbed tires on; Just like I've suggested for N5 I would like to be able to use 'scrubbed' (used) tires during any session. Meaning, that in a qual or practice session I should be able to go into the pits... change stuff on my car, and still be able to keep my old 'scrubbed' (and "warm") tires. Ranking system: Support for some kind of ranking system (like in N4) that allow hosts to put minimum LPI (Laps Per Incident) restrictions. I DO NOT CARE about skill levels - it being clean, fair and a good sportsman that counts IMHO. -- ed_

"Martin Granberg" wrote: > >- Race Results with real lapcharts and results. > Ed, that's what GPL2RA is for! :) Although GPLRA is getting better at this (new features look good btw) it's not quite where I want it... Take HTML export forexample - does 'RA' do that? Speaking of HTML-exports... I would also love to be able to create/define my own template that will be used when exporting results etc. The way all the league admins and webmasters webmasters out there can save a few hours "converting" web-pages after each race. This should be fairly easy to include imho... all thats needed is for the us to make a html-document (complying to certain "rules") that include some sort of pointers that tell the progam where to put the various bits of information when creating a new html document based on this template. Just like most bulletin boards work today I think. -- ed_ -- NOTE! Return address is *not* my own - but the e-mail address to some spammers that has bothered me one time to many! This weeks winners: [email hidden] - Eat this - suckers!

David, I just love the "Sagan sig-quote" you have!! "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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| The ability for the AI to slipstream would be enormously welcome! (I | don't own N4, so don't know if that's already present there.) | | -- | Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which | deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan | | The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

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| Sideburns... | | Stephen | | "Peter H" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:FePI7.288173$[email hidden]... | > Yeah, flares and huge collars..LOL | > | > | > -- | > Peter H | > | > GPL sucks...you in | > | > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:[email hidden]... | > > On 15 Nov 2001 10:53:56 GMT, [email hidden] (David | > > Buttery) wrote: | > > | > > >The ability for the AI to slipstream would be enormously welcome! (I | > > >don't own N4, so don't know if that's already present there.) | > > | > > PITBABES!!! | > > | > > Andre | > > | > > >-- | > > >Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by

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Ed Solheim <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws VoEI7.2762$[email hidden]... > Feel free to add more fuel to the bonfire! - The ability to put drivers on the grid in your own order of preference (would be so nice for league racing) - A 'save' button for setups (not just 'save as') - The ability to use the existing GPL1 tracks Bye, Leo

Thom j. <[email hidden]> wrote on 15 Nov 2001: > David, I just love the "Sagan sig-quote" you have!! Cheers. I'm a great fan of the bloke - he died too soon :-( -- Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

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> Although GPLRA is getting better at this (new features look good btw) it's > not quite where I want it... > Take HTML export forexample - does 'RA' do that? > Speaking of HTML-exports... > I would also love to be able to create/define my own template that > will be used when exporting results etc. The way all the league > admins and webmasters webmasters out there can save a few hours > "converting" web-pages after each race. This should be fairly easy > to include imho... all thats needed is for the us to make a > html-document (complying to certain "rules") that include some sort > of pointers that tell the progam where to put the various bits of > information when creating a new html document based on this > template. Just like most bulletin boards work today I think.

you could use the award-winning and free template toolkit (http://www.template-toolkit.org/) to suck the gpl data in (parsing race report files) and spit out your web pages, based on your own templates. you'll need to install perl though. dr martin.

On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 18:41:51 +0100, "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Although GPLRA is getting better at this (new features look good btw) it's >not quite where I want it... >Take HTML export forexample - does 'RA' do that? Not for the results, no. Only laptimes (records)

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>Speaking of HTML-exports... > >I would also love to be able to create/define my own template that will be >used when exporting results etc. >The way all the league admins and webmasters webmasters out there can save a >few hours "converting" web-pages after each race. This should be fairly >easy to include imho... all thats needed is for the us to make a >html-document (complying to certain "rules") that include some sort of >pointers that tell the progam where to put the various bits of information >when creating a new html document based on this template. Just like most >bulletin boards work today I think.

There are a number of such league tools today. Ofcourse we could implement it in GPLRA, but I doubt we'll do it. (have to draw the line somewhere...). Cheers, /Martin

>- A 'save' button for setups (not just 'save as') Ahh, but just clicking the green button saves the setup for you. Rafe Mc

[email hidden] (Rafe McAuliffe) writes: > >- A 'save' button for setups (not just 'save as') > > Ahh, but just clicking the green button saves the setup for you. And also loads it as default next time. Which is my main gripe with F1 2001 (apart from the MSFF split axis travel problem unsolvable in Win2000), it's freaking annoying to have to save by writing the setup name and not clicking anything, and having to load the setup each and evey time i exit the track. -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

Olav, In F1 2001 you can pick a default set up for each track. I think it's the icon right next to the save icon. Unfortunately it's still not smart enough to give you a different default for each car, but if you stick with the same car all the time that is not a problem. "Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> [email hidden] (Rafe McAuliffe) writes: > > > >- A 'save' button for setups (not just 'save as') > > > > Ahh, but just clicking the green button saves the setup for you. > > And also loads it as default next time. Which is my main gripe with F1 > 2001 (apart from the MSFF split axis travel problem unsolvable in > Win2000), it's freaking annoying to have to save by writing the setup > name and not clicking anything, and having to load the setup each and > evey time i exit the track. > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove .spam when replying

Rafe McAuliffe <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws [email hidden]... > Ahh, but just clicking the green button saves the setup for you. ... and puts me in another menu as well, when I just wanted to save a setup. Small gripe but hey, this is a wish list! Bye, Leo