Re: F1 2001... Beautiful & perfect... so far. (kinda long)

A screen shot would be great! I'm trying to decide between a ATI and a GF3 to replace my GF2. I want to go with a ATI based on pervious cards graphics compared to what I have now, but I'm not sure if its just a fond memory or if it was truly that good. MadDAWG

Here are some screen shots for you http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/atl/j/m/jmurc/ and here are some more with smoothvision on. http://personal.bellsouth.net/atl/j/m/jmurc/shots/ "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > A screen shot would be great! I'm trying to decide between a ATI and a GF3 > to replace my GF2. I want to go with a ATI based on pervious cardsgraphics > compared to what I have now, but I'm not sure if its just a fond memory or > if it was truly that good. > > MadDAWG > >

Sorry the first link is for screen shots taken with my old Voodoo 5. The second were taken with the 8500 Here are two more shots taken with the 8500 http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/atl/j/m/jmurc/ati1jpg.jpg http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/atl/j/m/jmurc/ati2jpg.jpg "Murchman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9t15gm$16fvl0$[email hidden]...

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> Here are some screen shots for you > > http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/atl/j/m/jmurc/ > > and here are some more with smoothvision on. > > http://personal.bellsouth.net/atl/j/m/jmurc/shots/ > > >

I've had F1 2001 since it first came out (pre-ordered), not knowing it wouldn't work with my Voodoo3 3000. Well, my Voodoo was stuck in a P-II 400, with 128MB of RAM. This machine seems to have outlived itself, knowing a lot of people were whining about how F1 cs 2000 wouldn't run on their P-III 800 or whatever, while it ran 'decent' on my machine with 12 cars, about everything on Med detail and a couple things on High. GPL ran great. Anyhow, I give a lot of credit to my buddy that built the machine for me. It led a good, long life, but...*sniff*... it was time to upgrade since f1 2001 didn't have a chance on it. So, I picked R.A.S.'s collective brain about what my new 'puter should be equipped with. I gotta say "Thanks!" to you guys, cause after researching things myself, I found your recommendations to be spot-on. I ended up with this: Athlon XP-1800+ Epox EP-8KHA+ mainbd 512MB Crucial RAM 60gig@7200 rpm Western Digital HD Radeon 8500 (retail) SB Live Audigy X-Gamer plus a DVD, CDR-W, floppy, modem, Win 98se, Logi cordless keybd & mouse (optical), 19" monitor, Klipsch 4.1's, and a new Logi Momo wheel All for a c*nt-hair more than $2G's. Anyhow, I put it together last night and got the new Radeon drivers and DirectX 8.1 installed by 1:00am (so at that point I was lookin at 4 1/2 hours of sleep, max). Too tired to hook up the speakers or my old LWFF (the new wheel didn't arrive yet) and using my old monitor (ditto), I *had* to see what F1-2001 would do. First of all, I go into the Radeon's settings and max everything out... Smoothvision and all. I have no idea what half of that shit does, but it was maxxed! I install F1 2001 without any problems (took a couple of minutes), go into the game's display setup and max it out to the limits of my old monitor (1280x768), and run it. Loads quick, menus laid out nicely, then I double check to make sure all graphics are on full. They are, so I click on Quick Race with a full field. It took 10 seconds to load Sepang. Remember, I'm using the keyboard for control without sound. I click "Race". OH...MY... GOD! This is frickin' gorgeous! The lights go on one at a time and go out. Hakk stalls in front of me. I ram him and come to a stop as the other cars avoid us and fly past. The framerate is smmoooooootthhhhhhhhhhh.... silky smooooooooth. Remember how slippery and smooth it was the 1st time you made it to 3rd base with a girl??? Smoother than that. I didn't have fraps loaded or anything, but there was not a single stutter to make me think this was running at less than 50 fps. Luckily I was invulnerable, so I push Mika to the side and continue on with my keyboard, soundless driving. Those first tight corners at Sepang? I could feeeeel when I was losing grip. The car whipped thru the left-right complex after the next straight, just like they did when i watched quallies this year. Had to pause and try the replay feature. I had it set to 30 secs, so it caught me coming thru the first tight section all the way to the first back-straight. It was wild... It looked better than world feed. As touchy as the steering was with the keyboard, the aids gave me enough help that it just felt right. I stayed up til 3am playin this thing. Watching the replays. Playing. Replay. Crash. Replay. I didn't wanna go to bed. Tonight I'll hook up the Klipsch 4.1s and the LWFF and see what I think of it and let ya know. If I figger out how to do screenies, I'll do that too. Thanks again for helping with my computer component choices. Damn. I still have over 3 hours left here at work. Tic...... toc.......tic.......toc.......tic...... Warlock!

"Wet Yarn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I guess I shoulda asked, "Anybody know how to do screenshots from F12001???" > > Warlock! > Press the F12 key and it will take a BMP in put it in the root directory.

About those 2X and 4X Radeon shots - do you have the AF settings on and if so, is it on "performance" 4 tap or "quality" 16 tap ? TIA, SB "Murchman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9t15gm$16fvl0$[email hidden]...

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> Here are some screen shots for you > > http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/atl/j/m/jmurc/ > > and here are some more with smoothvision on. > > http://personal.bellsouth.net/atl/j/m/jmurc/shots/ > > > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > A screen shot would be great! I'm trying to decide between a ATI and a GF3 > > to replace my GF2. I want to go with a ATI based on pervious cards > graphics > > compared to what I have now, but I'm not sure if its just a fond memory or > > if it was truly that good. > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > >

All were taken with the quality settings. Not sure what AF stand for? "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BBVI7.45069$[email hidden]... > About those 2X and 4X Radeon shots - do you have the AF settings on and ifso, is it on "performance" 4 tap or "quality" 16 tap ? > > TIA, > > SB > > "Murchman" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:9t15gm$16fvl0$[email hidden]...

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> > Here are some screen shots for you > > > > http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/atl/j/m/jmurc/ > > > > and here are some more with smoothvision on. > > > > http://personal.bellsouth.net/atl/j/m/jmurc/shots/ > > > > > > > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > A screen shot would be great! I'm trying to decide between a ATI and a

GF3 > > > to replace my GF2. I want to go with a ATI based on pervious cards > > graphics > > > compared to what I have now, but I'm not sure if its just a fondmemory or

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> > > if it was truly that good. > > > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > > > > > > > >

I guess I shoulda asked, "Anybody know how to do screenshots from F1 2001???" Warlock! MadDAWG wrote: > A screen shot would be great! I'm trying to decide between a ATI and a GF3 > to replace my GF2. I want to go with a ATI based on pervious cards graphics > compared to what I have now, but I'm not sure if its just a fond memory or > if it was truly that good. > > MadDAWG

"Wet Yarn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > By the way... Is there a No CD crack for this thing yet? > > Warlock! > But of course http://www.f12001.racesim.net/

Congrats on your new system. I just put together almost the identical system (except for a GF3 and IBM 60GXP 60GB hard drive) last weekend. Looks like the new drivers for with Smoothvision make the Radeon 8500 very nice (I already had the GF3 from previous PC). I got a good performance increase changing the AGP aperture size from 64 to 128 MB (3DMark2001 went from 6000 to 7200) - you mileage may vary with Radeon. Do your mirrors work fine? Wait till you try the MOMO wheel with an FF sim - I don't regret this purchase at all. I like it much better than my LWFF, with the latest beta5 driver from Logitech. Brian "Wet Yarn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I've had F1 2001 since it first came out (pre-ordered), not knowing it > wouldn't work with my Voodoo3 3000. Well, my Voodoo was stuck in a P-II > 400, with 128MB of RAM. This machine seems to have outlived itself, > knowing a lot of people were whining about how F1 cs 2000 wouldn't run > on their P-III 800 or whatever, while it ran 'decent' on my machine with > 12 cars, about everything on Med detail and a couple things on High. GPL > ran great. Anyhow, I give a lot of credit to my buddy that built the > machine for me. It led a good, long life, but...*sniff*... it was time > to upgrade since f1 2001 didn't have a chance on it. > > So, I picked R.A.S.'s collective brain about what my new 'puter should > be equipped with. I gotta say "Thanks!" to you guys, cause after > researching things myself, I found your recommendations to be spot-on. I > ended up with this: > > Athlon XP-1800+ > Epox EP-8KHA+ mainbd > 512MB Crucial RAM > 60gig@7200 rpm Western Digital HD > Radeon 8500 (retail) > SB Live Audigy X-Gamer > plus a DVD, CDR-W, floppy, modem, Win 98se, Logi cordless keybd & mouse > (optical), 19" monitor, Klipsch 4.1's, and a new Logi Momo wheel > > All for a c*nt-hair more than $2G's. Anyhow, I put it together last > night and got the new Radeon drivers and DirectX 8.1 installed by 1:00am > (so at that point I was lookin at 4 1/2 hours of sleep, max). Too tired > to hook up the speakers or my old LWFF (the new wheel didn't arrive yet) > and using my old monitor (ditto), I *had* to see what F1-2001 would do. >

AF = Anisotropic Filtering - THX; nice shots! "Murchman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9t192h$15oolc$[email hidden]... > All were taken with the quality settings. Not sure what AF stand for?

By the way... Is there a No CD crack for this thing yet? Warlock!

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> > > "Wet Yarn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> By the way... Is there a No CD crack for this thing yet? >> >> Warlock! >> > > But of course http://www.f12001.racesim.net/ > > > >

But you can't play on Relay if you have the no-CD patch. -- Darryl

cool I first thought that they weren't as good as i thought they would be. The second is.... wow! MadDAWG

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> Murchman wrote in news:9t1a0n$16e8s4$[email hidden]: > > > > > > > "Wet Yarn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > >> By the way... Is there a No CD crack for this thing yet? > >> > >> Warlock! > >> > > > > But of course http://www.f12001.racesim.net/ > > > > > > > > > > But you can't play on Relay if you have the no-CD patch. > > -- > Darryl

Sure you can I play on it every night with the NO-CD patch.

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> > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:lrXI7.36341$[email hidden]... >> Murchman wrote in news:9t1a0n$16e8s4$[email hidden]: >> >> > >> > >> > "Wet Yarn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > news:[email hidden]... >> >> By the way... Is there a No CD crack for this thing yet? >> >> >> >> Warlock! >> >> >> > >> > But of course http://www.f12001.racesim.net/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> But you can't play on Relay if you have the no-CD patch. >> >> -- >> Darryl > > Sure you can I play on it every night with the NO-CD patch. > > > >

Interesting. I wasn't getting a race listed after typing in the IP and going to the next step. A check on the Relays Forums turned up the info that Relay wasn't compatible with the no_CD version. Put the original back in and was able to connect. I'd be interested in knowing how you're configured, because I hate putting CDs in and out of my drive, and there's at least three that I use frequently -- not counting any music CDs that I sometimes listento while working. -- Darryl

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> murchman wrote in news:slYI7.5052$q36.558874@e3500- > atl2.usenetserver.com: > > > > > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:lrXI7.36341$[email hidden]... > >> Murchman wrote in news:9t1a0n$16e8s4$[email hidden]: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > "Wet Yarn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> > news:[email hidden]... > >> >> By the way... Is there a No CD crack for this thing yet? > >> >> > >> >> Warlock! > >> >> > >> > > >> > But of course http://www.f12001.racesim.net/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> But you can't play on Relay if you have the no-CD patch. > >> > >> -- > >> Darryl > > > > Sure you can I play on it every night with the NO-CD patch. > > > > > > > > > > Interesting. I wasn't getting a race listed after typing in the IP and > going to the next step. A check on the Relays Forums turned up the info > that Relay wasn't compatible with the no_CD version. Put the original > back in and was able to connect. > > I'd be interested in knowing how you're configured, because I hate > putting CDs in and out of my drive, and there's at least three that I > use frequently -- not counting any music CDs that I sometimes listento > while working. > > -- > Darryl

Are you using the us version of the game? If your not you may be using the NO-CD for the us version and that maybe causing your problem. If you are using the US version let me know and I will send you my no-cd patch that I made for the us version.

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> > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:rG_I7.36551$[email hidden]... >> murchman wrote in news:slYI7.5052$q36.558874@e3500- >> atl2.usenetserver.com: >> >> > >> > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > news:lrXI7.36341$[email hidden]... >> >> Murchman wrote in news:9t1a0n$16e8s4$[email hidden]: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Wet Yarn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >> > news:[email hidden]... >> >> >> By the way... Is there a No CD crack for this thing yet? >> >> >> >> >> >> Warlock! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > But of course http://www.f12001.racesim.net/ >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> But you can't play on Relay if you have the no-CD patch. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Darryl >> > >> > Sure you can I play on it every night with the NO-CD patch. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Interesting. I wasn't getting a race listed after typing in the IP >> and going to the next step. A check on the Relays Forums turned up >> the info that Relay wasn't compatible with the no_CD version. Put >> the original back in and was able to connect. >> >> I'd be interested in knowing how you're configured, because I hate >> putting CDs in and out of my drive, and there's at least three >> that I use frequently -- not counting any music CDs that I >> sometimes listento while working. >> >> -- >> Darryl > > Are you using the us version of the game? If your not you may be > using the NO-CD for the us version and that maybe causing your > problem. If you are using the US version let me know and I will > send you my no-cd patch that I made for the us version. > > > >

I'm using whatever version they are selling in Canada. For 99.99% of the programs I have, this is the US version. Is there an easy way to look at F1 2001 and tell? And yes, it was the US version of the no-CD patch. Which worked fine if I was playing on my own, BTW. -- Darryl

>Remember how slippery and smooth it was the 1st time you >made it to 3rdbase with a girl??? >Smoother than that. Um ... nothing could be smoother than the first trip to 3rd base. Nice system though. Lou

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> > murchman wrote in > news:UB%I7.5744$[email hidden]: > > > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:rG_I7.36551$[email hidden]... > >> murchman wrote in news:slYI7.5052$q36.558874@e3500- > >> atl2.usenetserver.com: > >> > >> > "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> > news:lrXI7.36341$[email hidden]... > >> >> Murchman wrote in news:9t1a0n$16e8s4$[email hidden]: > >> >> > >> >> > "Wet Yarn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> >> > news:[email hidden]... > >> >> >> By the way... Is there a No CD crack for this thing yet? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Warlock! > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > But of course http://www.f12001.racesim.net/ > >> >> > >> >> But you can't play on Relay if you have the no-CD patch. > >> > > >> > Sure you can I play on it every night with the NO-CD patch. > >> > >> Interesting. I wasn't getting a race listed after typing in the > >> IP and going to the next step. A check on the Relays Forums > >> turned up the info that Relay wasn't compatible with the no_CD > >> version. Put the original back in and was able to connect. > >> > >> I'd be interested in knowing how you're configured, because I > >> hate putting CDs in and out of my drive, and there's at least > >> three that I use frequently -- not counting any music CDs that I > >> sometimes listento while working. > > > > Are you using the us version of the game? If your not you may be > > using the NO-CD for the us version and that maybe causing your > > problem. If you are using the US version let me know and I will > > send you my no-cd patch that I made for the us version. > > I'm using whatever version they are selling in Canada. For 99.99% of > the programs I have, this is the US version. Is there an easy way to > look at F1 2001 and tell? And yes, it was the US version of the > no-CD patch. Which worked fine if I was playing on my own, BTW.

I have the 1.024 Euro version. I installed the patch and then replaced the exe with the 1.074 no-cd exe. Works just fine with Relay. Before the patch, I also used the 1.045 US no-cd exe without any problems. -- René van Lobberegt, The Netherlands.