Windows XP and GPL

Hello, I'm sure you've all heard this before, but my brother has a friend with a Windows XP based computer, and he cannot get GPL to run at all. What happens is that it shows the screen with the Brabham on it, then it immediately crashes to the desktop. It does this with and without the 1.2 patch applies and it is in software rendering mode, though it does it with the D3D patch also. The system is an Athlon 1.4MHz with a GeForce 2 MX400. I'm not sure what sound card is installed. Other games seem to work fine, but not GPL. If anyone can shed some light on what is happening, why, and more importantly how to solve it, we'd have one more GPL'er to race against! Thanks in advance, Andrew.

"Andrew Hollom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sBUI7.6754$[email hidden]... > Hello, > > I'm sure you've all heard this before, but my brother has a friend with a > Windows XP based computer, and he cannot get GPL to run at all. Whathappens > is that it shows the screen with the Brabham on it, then it immediately > crashes to the desktop. It does this with and without the 1.2 patchapplies

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> and it is in software rendering mode, though it does it with the D3D patch > also. > > The system is an Athlon 1.4MHz with a GeForce 2 MX400. I'm not sure what > sound card is installed. Other games seem to work fine, but not GPL. > > If anyone can shed some light on what is happening, why, and more > importantly how to solve it, we'd have one more GPL'er to race against! > > Thanks in advance, > > Andrew.

This may or may not be of help to you but here goes. I was also unable to get GPL to run on XP. My solution was to install GPL on a FAT formatted partition. Now it works. It's utterly illogical, but it works. I tried formatting the same partition as NTFS and FAT, resizing the partition, moving the partition, etc. The only thing that worked for me is to have GPL installed on a FAT partition. All that being said, you could be having a video problem.

I think there is a theory going around that GPL doesn't seem to want to run on an NTFS partition if its also the system/boot partition. So plan your install accordingly -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0eXI7.141$[email hidden]... > "Andrew Hollom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:sBUI7.6754$[email hidden]... > > Hello, > > > > I'm sure you've all heard this before, but my brother has a friend with a > > Windows XP based computer, and he cannot get GPL to run at all. What > happens > > is that it shows the screen with the Brabham on it, then it immediately > > crashes to the desktop. It does this with and without the 1.2 patch > applies > > and it is in software rendering mode, though it does it with the D3D patch > > also. > > > > The system is an Athlon 1.4MHz with a GeForce 2 MX400. I'm not sure what > > sound card is installed. Other games seem to work fine, but not GPL. > > > > If anyone can shed some light on what is happening, why, and more > > importantly how to solve it, we'd have one more GPL'er to race against! > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Andrew. > > This may or may not be of help to you but here goes. I was also unable to > get GPL to run on XP. My solution was to install GPL on a FAT formatted > partition. Now it works. It's utterly illogical, but it works. I tried > formatting the same partition as NTFS and FAT, resizing the partition, > moving the partition, etc. The only thing that worked for me is to have GPL > installed on a FAT partition. > > All that being said, you could be having a video problem. > >

I am running GPL on Windows XP with a NTFS partition and it runs great. I have a geforce 3 (22.80 drivers) and a althon xp 1700+. I will say that for some reason I could not copy the old directory of GPL on my other hard drive and get it to work. I think you have some other problem. Lots of people are running XP with no problems. It might be a video driver problem as already stated. The drivers may not like GPL or may not like GPL with Windows XP. "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:I5_I7.171772$[email hidden]... > I think there is a theory going around that GPL doesn't seem to want torun

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> on an NTFS partition if its also the system/boot partition. So plan your > install accordingly > > -- > Biz > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and > the....." - Ash > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:0eXI7.141$[email hidden]... > > "Andrew Hollom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:sBUI7.6754$[email hidden]... > > > Hello, > > > > > > I'm sure you've all heard this before, but my brother has a friend

with > a > > > Windows XP based computer, and he cannot get GPL to run at all. What > > happens > > > is that it shows the screen with the Brabham on it, then itimmediately

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> > > crashes to the desktop. It does this with and without the 1.2 patch > > applies > > > and it is in software rendering mode, though it does it with the D3D > patch > > > also. > > > > > > The system is an Athlon 1.4MHz with a GeForce 2 MX400. I'm not sure

what > > > sound card is installed. Other games seem to work fine, but not GPL. > > > > > > If anyone can shed some light on what is happening, why, and more > > > importantly how to solve it, we'd have one more GPL'er to raceagainst! > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > Andrew. > > > > This may or may not be of help to you but here goes. I was also unableto > > get GPL to run on XP. My solution was to install GPL on a FAT formatted > > partition. Now it works. It's utterly illogical, but it works. Itried

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> > formatting the same partition as NTFS and FAT, resizing the partition, > > moving the partition, etc. The only thing that worked for me is to have > GPL > > installed on a FAT partition. > > > > All that being said, you could be having a video problem. > > > > > >

I also run XP and GPL, even on the boot partiition, which is the only one I have, btw "Brian Bowles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:dh_I7.45729$[email hidden]... > I am running GPL on Windows XP with a NTFS partition and it runs great. I > have a geforce 3 (22.80 drivers) and a althon xp 1700+. I will say thatfor > some reason I could not copy the old directory of GPL on my other harddrive > and get it to work. I think you have some other problem. Lots of peopleare

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> running XP with no problems. It might be a video driver problem as already > stated. The drivers may not like GPL or may not like GPL with Windows XP. > "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:I5_I7.171772$[email hidden]... > > I think there is a theory going around that GPL doesn't seem to want to > run > > on an NTFS partition if its also the system/boot partition. So plan

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> > install accordingly > > > > -- > > Biz > > > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand > > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular

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> > the....." - Ash > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:0eXI7.141$[email hidden]... > > > "Andrew Hollom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:sBUI7.6754$[email hidden]... > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I'm sure you've all heard this before, but my brother has a friend > with > > a > > > > Windows XP based computer, and he cannot get GPL to run at all. What > > > happens > > > > is that it shows the screen with the Brabham on it, then it > immediately > > > > crashes to the desktop. It does this with and without the 1.2 patch > > > applies > > > > and it is in software rendering mode, though it does it with the D3D > > patch > > > > also. > > > > > > > > The system is an Athlon 1.4MHz with a GeForce 2 MX400. I'm not sure > what > > > > sound card is installed. Other games seem to work fine, but not GPL. > > > > > > > > If anyone can shed some light on what is happening, why, and more > > > > importantly how to solve it, we'd have one more GPL'er to race > against! > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > Andrew. > > > > > > This may or may not be of help to you but here goes. I was also

unable > to > > > get GPL to run on XP. My solution was to install GPL on a FATformatted > > > partition. Now it works. It's utterly illogical, but it works. I > tried > > > formatting the same partition as NTFS and FAT, resizing the partition, > > > moving the partition, etc. The only thing that worked for me is tohave

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> > GPL > > > installed on a FAT partition. > > > > > > All that being said, you could be having a video problem. > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> Hello, > > I'm sure you've all heard this before, but my brother has a friend with a > Windows XP based computer, and he cannot get GPL to run at all. What happens > is that it shows the screen with the Brabham on it, then it immediately > crashes to the desktop. It does this with and without the 1.2 patch applies > and it is in software rendering mode, though it does it with the D3D patch > also. > > The system is an Athlon 1.4MHz with a GeForce 2 MX400. I'm not sure what > sound card is installed. Other games seem to work fine, but not GPL. > > If anyone can shed some light on what is happening, why, and more > importantly how to solve it, we'd have one more GPL'er to race against! > > Thanks in advance, > > Andrew.

I'm also running GPL on XP on an NTFS partition, and I just copied the whole directory from another P.C. The XP box has a Voodoo 3 card and I can only get it to run in D3D (not Glide). I did have to edit the app.ini file the first time I tried to run it as it tried to start in Glide then crashed. Maybe you could look to see what rasterizer is selected in the app.ini file and change it to the software one to start with. Hope this helps... Phillip...

"Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:I5_I7.171772$[email hidden]... > I think there is a theory going around that GPL doesn't seem to want torun > on an NTFS partition if its also the system/boot partition. So plan your > install accordingly I haven't isntalled GPL yet, but I will soon and have converted to NTFS so this info will come in handy. So as long as I install to a partition besides the same one as the system files are on I should be fine, right?

> I'm also running GPL on XP on an NTFS partition, and I just copied thewhole > directory from another P.C. The XP box has a Voodoo 3 card and I can onlyget it > to run in D3D (not Glide). I did have to edit the app.ini file the firsttime I > tried to run it as it tried to start in Glide then crashed. Maybe youcould look > to see what rasterizer is selected in the app.ini file and change it tothe > software one to start with. > Hope this helps... > Phillip... You could try some of the other voodoo drivers floating around, get em here: http://www.voodoofiles.com/type.asp?cat_id=0 I installed the the WorLord drivers for my V5500 and now have glide working in GPL Perhaps try the Hujer Hoe Voodoo 3/4/5 Win XPdriver, havn't tried it myself. -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. `o^=o- http://www.oppositelock.co.uk N�rburgring and Grand Prix Legends (yeah it needs updating I know...)

> > You could try some of the other voodoo drivers floating around, get emhere: > http://www.voodoofiles.com/type.asp?cat_id=0 > I installed the the WorLord drivers for my V5500 and now have glideworking > in GPL > Perhaps try the Hujer Hoe Voodoo 3/4/5 Win XPdriver, havn't tried itmyself.

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> > -- > Cheers, > > Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. `o^=o- > > http://www.oppositelock.co.uk

Congrats, you're the first I've heard that can run GPL in glide on XP. I have the WorLord drivers installed and still get a hard crash with them although I get through the setups screens ok <others I've tried caused a lockup after 3dfx splash screen> upon entering the track it locks up. What refresh rate are you using? DN

Hello again, Thanks all for your help, it's been very useful to at least have a vague idea what the problem might be. I'll forward all the information to my brother so he can try it all out. One more question, I don't seem to be able to see this thread in my news reader (Outlook Express), but I can search the group and see all your replies. This is very strange, so does anyone know what is happening here and how I can get to see the thread in the tree view? Thank you all again, Andrew. "Dino" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zojJ7.18058$[email hidden]...

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> > > > > You could try some of the other voodoo drivers floating around, get em > here: > > http://www.voodoofiles.com/type.asp?cat_id=0 > > I installed the the WorLord drivers for my V5500 and now have glide > working > > in GPL > > Perhaps try the Hujer Hoe Voodoo 3/4/5 Win XPdriver, havn't tried it > myself. > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. `o^=o- > > > > http://www.oppositelock.co.uk > > Congrats, you're the first I've heard that can run GPL in glide on XP. I > have the WorLord drivers installed and still get a hard crash with them > although I get through the setups screens ok <others I've tried caused a > lockup after 3dfx splash screen> upon entering the track it locks up. What > refresh rate are you using? > > DN > >

Err no idea what the refresh rate is - probabaly 75hz I'm running in 1024x768 using the Smiley glide patch, haven't run it much yet so I don't know how stable it is, perhaps I've just been lucky so far? I had been running in D3D but had problems with it recognising the gear shifts on my wingman formula force for some reason. -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. `o^=o- http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk N�rburgring and Grand Prix Legends (yeah it needs updating I know...) "Dino" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zojJ7.18058$[email hidden]... > > > > > You could try some of the other voodoo drivers floating around, get em > here: > > http://www.voodoofiles.com/type.asp?cat_id=0 > > I installed the the WorLord drivers for my V5500 and now have glide > working > > in GPL > > Perhaps try the Hujer Hoe Voodoo 3/4/5 Win XPdriver, havn't tried it > myself. > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. `o^=o- > > > > http://www.oppositelock.co.uk > > Congrats, you're the first I've heard that can run GPL in glide on XP. I > have the WorLord drivers installed and still get a hard crash with them > although I get through the setups screens ok <others I've tried caused a > lockup after 3dfx splash screen> upon entering the track it locks up. What > refresh rate are you using? > > DN > >

I don't recall seeing this in anyother reply, but with the 1.4GHz+ Athlon chips I think that you'll need to run the "fastCPU" fix, available at any good GPL site and www.papy.com I think. Good luck! "Andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0eXI7.141$[email hidden]... > "Andrew Hollom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:sBUI7.6754$[email hidden]... > > Hello, > > > > I'm sure you've all heard this before, but my brother has a friend witha > > Windows XP based computer, and he cannot get GPL to run at all. What > happens > > is that it shows the screen with the Brabham on it, then it immediately > > crashes to the desktop. It does this with and without the 1.2 patch > applies > > and it is in software rendering mode, though it does it with the D3Dpatch

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> > also. > > > > The system is an Athlon 1.4MHz with a GeForce 2 MX400. I'm not sure what > > sound card is installed. Other games seem to work fine, but not GPL. > > > > If anyone can shed some light on what is happening, why, and more > > importantly how to solve it, we'd have one more GPL'er to race against! > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Andrew. > > This may or may not be of help to you but here goes. I was also unable to > get GPL to run on XP. My solution was to install GPL on a FAT formatted > partition. Now it works. It's utterly illogical, but it works. I tried > formatting the same partition as NTFS and FAT, resizing the partition, > moving the partition, etc. The only thing that worked for me is to have

GPL > installed on a FAT partition. > > All that being said, you could be having a video problem. > >

I got it working with the wrapper, thanks. I had installed GPL on XP then transferred everything from my 98 partition but hadn't changed the glide.ini file to use the same resolution -1024x768- as my desktop. I noticed much better frame rates using the glide wrapper as opposed to d3d, no doubt that the mirrors are the culprit. Damn glad to get that working. DN "Robin Lord" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jJsJ7.2909$[email hidden]...

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> Err no idea what the refresh rate is - probabaly 75hz I'm running in > 1024x768 using the Smiley glide patch, haven't run it much yet so I don't > know how stable it is, perhaps I've just been lucky so far? > > I had been running in D3D but had problems with it recognising the gear > shifts on my wingman formula force for some reason. > > -- > Cheers, > > Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. `o^=o- > > http://www.oppositelock.freeserve.co.uk > > N�rburgring and Grand Prix Legends > (yeah it needs updating I know...) > "Dino" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:zojJ7.18058$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > You could try some of the other voodoo drivers floating around, get em > > here: > > > http://www.voodoofiles.com/type.asp?cat_id=0 > > > I installed the the WorLord drivers for my V5500 and now have glide > > working > > > in GPL > > > Perhaps try the Hujer Hoe Voodoo 3/4/5 Win XPdriver, havn't tried it > > myself. > > > > > > -- > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. `o^=o- > > > > > > http://www.oppositelock.co.uk > > > > Congrats, you're the first I've heard that can run GPL in glide on XP. I > > have the WorLord drivers installed and still get a hard crash with them > > although I get through the setups screens ok <others I've tried caused a > > lockup after 3dfx splash screen> upon entering the track it locks up.

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