I have just "adjusted" my MSFF. This may be well known to people here
already but I was given the idea by seeing the new Saitek FF wheel.
You see it is the first wheel I have seen that have the pedals on a stand so
that they are exactly the same as in your road car. i.e. they hang down from
above.
I have never been happy with the way most wheels have the pedals in the
"Ford transit, fork lift truck, milk float, dodgem" configuration. No road
or race car has pedals like this.
So................I have put my MSFF pedal platform in a vertical position
with the pedals pointing towards the ground. (I had to do a bit of clamping
and modifications under my desk but nothing difficult) Hey Presto ! I now
have real feel pedals. The brake pedal is now the throttle and vise versa.
The best part about this is that it gives you sooooooooo much more feel for
balancing the throttle and the brake.
I can now race competitively at expert level in F1RC.
If your brake pedal has enough travel (and the MSFF does) give it a go --
you'll love it !
Tim
hehe, did that with 2 T2's, I trimmed one pedal off so I have three,
Brake, gas, and clutch. I have picture if needed :)
--
Michael A. Barlow
FILSCA (www.filsca.com)
"tim.dockree" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:ILfK7.19258$[email hidden]...
> I have just "adjusted" my MSFF. This may be well known to people here
> already but I was given the idea by seeing the new Saitek FF wheel.
> You see it is the first wheel I have seen that have the pedals on a stand
so
> that they are exactly the same as in your road car. i.e. they hang down
from
> above.
>
> I have never been happy with the way most wheels have the pedals in the
> "Ford transit, fork lift truck, milk float, dodgem" configuration. No road
> or race car has pedals like this.
>
> So................I have put my MSFF pedal platform in a vertical position
> with the pedals pointing towards the ground. (I had to do a bit of
clamping
> and modifications under my desk but nothing difficult) Hey Presto ! I now
> have real feel pedals. The brake pedal is now the throttle and vise versa.
>
> The best part about this is that it gives you sooooooooo much more feel
for
> balancing the throttle and the brake.
> I can now race competitively at expert level in F1RC.
>
> If your brake pedal has enough travel (and the MSFF does) give it a go --
> you'll love it !
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
"tim.dockree" wrote ...
> You see it is the first wheel I have seen that have the pedals on a stand so
> that they are exactly the same as in your road car. i.e. they hang down from
> above.
Interesting, we just had a discussion about this at work the other day which led to a quick parking lot survey. (No argument about clutches or brakes, they all pivot at the top, we were just talking about gas pedals.) While all gas pedals "hang down from above", only about 30% (of the ones in our parking lot ;-) are actually fixed arms that rotate around the point where the pedal arm comes through the firewall. That is, they pivot at the top -- when you push down on those pedals, the bottom of the pedal travels a longer arc than the top of the pedal. That's what you'll have when you hang your game pedals upside down, except that road car pedals of this type are generally curved so that the sole of your foot rolls up the pedal as you depress it. If your game pedals have a flat gas pedal, I would think it would feel quite weird upside down.
Although the rest (70%) hang down, they actually pivot at the bottom instead of the top. On these units, the arm that comes down from the firewall attaches below the center point of the gas pedal, and there is a spring-loaded hinge at that point that lets the pedal rotate around the bottom of the arm instead of the top. In other words, when you push down on the pedal, the top of the pedal travels a longer arc than the bottom. Game gas pedal units simulate this second type of pedal, where the bottom stays relatively still and the top moves down.
I've never noticed pedals from a genuine race car as to how they're configured. It would seem they must pivot at the bottom somehow, and I'm only basing that on in-car shots of Rusty Wallace's footwork at Homestead last week. His heel never moved forward or back as he got off or on the gas, but when he had it floored his ankle had no more angle than a woman in 9-inch heels ;-) I would have thought that if the pedal pivoted at the top, his heel would have needed to travel some and there wouldn't have been the pronounced straightening of his ankle.
All of which is a long-winded (and no doubt unnecessary) way of saying that when you're making a set of these modified pedals for me for Christmas, I want you to only turn the brake upside down, my gas pedal's realistic enough the way it is <g>.
Don Jennings <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9teim6$21n2t$[email hidden]...
"tim.dockree" wrote ...
> You see it is the first wheel I have seen that have the pedals on a stand so
> that they are exactly the same as in your road car. i.e. they hang down from
> above.
I've never noticed pedals from a genuine race car as to how they're configured. It would seem they must pivot at the bottom
somehow, and I'm only
-------------
I *thought* that many 'proper' race cars used floor-mounted
pedal boxes, although I wasn't certain enough to jump in
first ;-)
Jonny
I think only front engined cars have top-pivoting pedals, for rear and
mid-engined cars it would be more practical to pivot them at the bottom
in order to get the cables and links under the floor. I believe my old
Beetle had bottom pivoting pedals, and I think the rear engined Porsches
do also.
"Jonny Hodgson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:a3BK7.3068$[email hidden]...
